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Strel Samodelkin
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.22 05:52:00 -
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I wrote my client an EveMail:
"Your package was delivered within 30 minutes. Thank you for choosing Strel's Courier Service. I value you as a customer and look forward to future contracting with you.
Update: I was unable to dock, due to: "Dusk and Dawn Holding Does Not Like You"
I logged outside of the space station 02 Fade LC3 Carmenta Factory. Please have them grant me temporary 24 hour docking clearance so I may complete your delivery. Thank you."
What do I do? I spent like 55 million collateral on a 5 million mission! The origional "hate monger" |

AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.22 05:54:00 -
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looks like someone made 55M isk.
Originally by: Crumplecorn Wow, CCP make a change that eliminates whines and there are whines about the lack of whines.
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Strel Samodelkin
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.22 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan looks like someone made 55M isk.
Huh? Is there like a Better Business Bureau or some organization of that sort here?
Yeah I run a company in RL, and if this type of thing happends, well, report it to the BBB obviously.
Anyway, I'm really anoyed. The origional "hate monger" |

Adamantina
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:04:00 -
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Maybe Dusk and Dawn will be nice enough to let you make the delivery this one time, but who knows... depends on how badly they want their stuff.
If not, I guess this is a pretty good object lesson about how to not run courier missions... i.e. by not researching your route properly and asking questions of the employer before taking the job.
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:09:00 -
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eve mail 4tw?
For your tech 2 needs www.evetrust.com
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Strel Samodelkin
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:10:00 -
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Originally by: Adamantina Maybe Dusk and Dawn will be nice enough to let you make the delivery this one time, but who knows... depends on how badly they want their stuff.
If not, I guess this is a pretty good object lesson about how to not run courier missions... i.e. by not researching your route properly and asking questions of the employer before taking the job.
I e-mailed the person I contracted it for and parked myself in a nearby friendly area. I'm hoping they grant me rights for 24 hours. I have 22 hours to complete the mission. The origional "hate monger" |

DiuxDium
Casting Shadows
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Strel Samodelkin
Originally by: Adamantina Maybe Dusk and Dawn will be nice enough to let you make the delivery this one time, but who knows... depends on how badly they want their stuff.
If not, I guess this is a pretty good object lesson about how to not run courier missions... i.e. by not researching your route properly and asking questions of the employer before taking the job.
I e-mailed the person I contracted it for and parked myself in a nearby friendly area. I'm hoping they grant me rights for 24 hours. I have 22 hours to complete the mission.
You got scammed man. Please forward the name of the scammer into this post. Also, this is a known scam, and very uncool. In the future to avoid it, please pay attention to the delivery point, and insure that you can infact dock there!
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Haffrage
Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:30:00 -
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Scam? Not really. It's not the client's fault that the guy didn't check where it was going and if he could dock there. -----
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Tepi Agd
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:02:00 -
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I think it even warns you now if you have to deliver to a conqurable statioln _ |

Strel Samodelkin
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:07:00 -
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Ok, so I found their website and contacted their web hosting provider. Since its in Germany I had a translated version of the message:
Please tell the owner of the domain eve-d2.com: I need docking permission to your station "factory" I wrote my client an EveMail: "Your package was delivered within 30 minutes. Thank you for choosing Strel's Courier Service. I value you as a customer and look forward to future contracting with you. Update: I was unable to dock, due to:"Dusk and Dawn Holding Does Not Like You" I logged outside of the space station 02 Fade LC3 Carmenta Factory. Please have them grant me temporary 24 hour docking clearance so I may complete your delivery. Thank you." Anyway, I have 22 hours to complete this contract! How do I do my job if I can't dock at your folk's station? Can you please give me temporary permission?
Note: Your client may be responsible for fraudulent activity! Failure to do this may result in legal action!
German Version: ErklSren Sie bitte dem Inhaber des Gebietes eve-d2.com: Ich ben÷tige Ankernerlaubnis zu Ihrer Station "02 Fade LC3 Carmenta Factory" Ich schrieb meinem Klienten ein EveMail: "Ihr Paket wurde innerhalb 30 Minuten geliefert. Danke fnr das WShlen des Kurierdiensts Strels. Ich Wert Sie als Kunde und Blick vorwSrts zur Zukunft, die mit Ihnen Vertrag abschlieŻt. Update: Ich war nicht imstande anzukoppeln, passend zu: "DSmmerung-und DSmmerung-Holding mag Sie nicht" Ich loggte AuŻenseite der Raumstation 02 verblasse LC3 Carmenta Fabrik. Lassen Sie sie bitte mir temporSren 24 Stunde Ankernabstand bewilligen, also kann ich Ihre Anlieferung durchfnhren. Danke." Sowieso habe ich 22 Stunden, zum dieses Vertrages durchzufnhren! Wie erledige ich meine Arbeit, wenn ich nicht an der Station Ihres Volkes ankoppeln kann? K÷nnen Sie mir temporSre Erlaubnis bitte geben? Anmerkung: Ihr Klient kann fnr betrngerische TStigkeit verantwortlich sein! St÷rung, dies zu tun kann Rechtsverfahren ergeben!
Danke.
Strel Samodelkin
I don't care, I'll sue. I'm crazy like that. I got a contract and I'm going to do everything I can to finish that contract! Its my job!
The origional "hate monger" |
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Hinkledolph
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:21:00 -
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You do realize scamming is allowed by CCP in eve, there for you cant sue? LOL this is going to get really funny 
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Sanctioner
Caldari Get out of my head
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:21:00 -
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Edited by: Sanctioner on 22/12/2006 07:22:25 Legal action for something ingame?
First of all, real life legal stuff has nothing to do with anything ingame.
Second scams are a perfectly valid way of making isk in this game :)
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Adamantina
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:22:00 -
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Do you want my copy of 'How to Win Friends and Influence People'? Sounds like you could use it.
Just get over the fact you lost out to a game mechanic via bad planning and hope D2 cares enough to let you complete the delivery. If they really want their stuff they'll help you out.
If not, sorry you lost out on 55m. It's chump change, so live and learn.
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Strel Samodelkin
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: Adamantina Do you want my copy of 'How to Win Friends and Influence People'? Sounds like you could use it.
Just get over the fact you lost out to a game mechanic via bad planning and hope D2 cares enough to let you complete the delivery. If they really want their stuff they'll help you out.
If not, sorry you lost out on 55m. It's chump change, so live and learn.
I can buy trillions of isk if I wanted to. This is about principle. You DO NOT screw me over, this is REALLY bad business practices! The origional "hate monger" |

Adamantina
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:27:00 -
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Edited by: Adamantina on 22/12/2006 07:27:34 By the way that's some atrocious German. I hope he doesn't practice law there.
Interestingly enough, I ran your english text through Google translator and got the same result, so maybe you should contact your English speaking lawyer in Germany and drop the hint that Google Language is a poor fit at best for legal work.
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Strel Samodelkin
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 22/12/2006 07:28:38
Originally by: Hinkledolph You do realize scamming is allowed by CCP in eve, there for you cant sue? LOL this is going to get really funny 
We'll see about that. There will be hell to pay for this scamming. The origional "hate monger" |

Adamantina
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:29:00 -
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This thread delivers 
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Strel Samodelkin
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:30:00 -
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Originally by: Adamantina Edited by: Adamantina on 22/12/2006 07:27:34 By the way that's some atrocious German. I hope he doesn't practice law there.
Interestingly enough, I ran your english text through Google translator and got the same result, so maybe you should contact your English speaking lawyer in Germany and drop the hint that Google Language is a poor fit at best for legal work.
Damn. Oh well, thats what I get for 50 bucks. The origional "hate monger" |

Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:32:00 -
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Note that this is a game, which the ISP of D2's website isn't part of.
If you want to use your trillions of ISK to get this sorted, hire mercs to get you docking rights to that station, or bribe some D2 guy. ;-)
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Draqun
Caldari Wo Zhi Dao Rogue Method Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:32:00 -
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Let me repeat what everyone else has said
YOU WERE SCAMED
yes it was a penny anti scam, but they happen all the time in game, odds are what your trying to deliver is a shrink wraped bundle of pirat logs, or something worth leven less than that.
just count yourself lucky that their sentry guns were not set to shoot down anyone not in their corp or alliance!
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:33:00 -
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Sorry to hear about your loss. It's a tough world out there, and I hope you learn from this.
But, MAN! contacting their home page provider about it is fracking hilarious. Like the provider has any idea what your post means, in any language. I'm sure it was deleted as spam when it was read (after a copy was printed up and posted in the companies "dumbest emails" area).
Originally by: Troy Knight
[After training Warp Drive Ops I] Still time I could have used training something else.
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Lucio
Gallente UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:33:00 -
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:) nice joke thread
If it's serious then I'd advise that you quit playing Eve now as you'll run into these kind of scams and worse ************************************************
Yes, I know I have a negative sec. status but I'm not a pirate damnit! |

Xsag
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:36:00 -
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1 word - LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
possibly also, no wait its the same word....get over it you have been had - now do the michael jackson moon walk back to whereever you came from
~n00b of all trades~ ~~Airkio~~ / ~~Muvolailen~~ ~if im posting on here its cos im in work~ |

Xsag
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:36:00 -
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Edited by: Xsag on 22/12/2006 07:36:30
~n00b of all trades~ ~~Airkio~~ / ~~Muvolailen~~ ~if im posting on here its cos im in work~ |

Mimiru
Gallente BIG Advanced Assault R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:38:00 -
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this is the best thread ive seen in a while
bravo sir, bravo. ---------
Join my corp! shoot people! |

Haffrage
Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Adamantina This thread delivers 
There was no /r/, therefor no delivery could have been made. Also, station's closed due to aids.
Oh and btw, OP - bad business, for scammers, is actually good business. The principle of the scam IS to make you lose money via "bad," or in this case "good," business methods. Now - hold on. Think on it for a second. Let it linger...swish it around a bit. Yeah, it makes sense now, doesn't it? -----
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Xsag
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:46:00 -
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Edited by: Xsag on 22/12/2006 07:46:55
Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: Adamantina This thread delivers 
There was no /r/, therefor no delivery could have been made. Also, station's closed due to aids.
<--------------MORE LOL ENRAGE HIM MORE SO HE MAY UNLEASH HIS POWERFUL TECH 2 LAWYERS ON YOU !!!!!!
~n00b of all trades~ ~~Airkio~~ / ~~Muvolailen~~ ~if im posting on here its cos im in work~ |

Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 22/12/2006 07:31:41
Originally by: Adamantina Edited by: Adamantina on 22/12/2006 07:27:34 By the way that's some atrocious German. I hope he doesn't practice law there.
Interestingly enough, I ran your english text through Google translator and got the same result, so maybe you should contact your English speaking lawyer in Germany and drop the hint that Google Language is a poor fit at best for legal work.
Damn. Oh well, thats what I get for 50 bucks. Man, I'm getting really screwed tonight. Has everyone suddenly decided to start screwing me? LOL! :)
First of all, no one here is really going in for personally messing you over. What you have experienced is not a personal attack on you of any kind. But its still a legal tactic in the game. Scamming and Sceating are pretty common in this games underworld! And to be absolutely honest, its not even sure you where scammed, because the missions can be meant for people who do after all have access to D2 areas.
Some advice:
1.) First consider the money lost. 2.) Now, when you have considered the money lost, look up the CEO of the corp to the missions issuers, and send him a VERY POLITE EVEMAIL telling him about your mistake. Asking him if theres any chances for refunds. If he says no game, toough ****. Thank him for your time and accept your loss. 3. If you get the money back, thank them!! And consider yourself lucky!!
But please remember. Scamming, scheating, heists and backstabbing. All valid tactics of EVE.
In any case, 55 mill aint that much. Be happy you did not loose a billion or two, as some people have..
EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER |

Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:48:00 -
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/me offers the OP a RL courier mission to North Korea ...
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Strel Samodelkin
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:51:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Crastus /me offers the OP a RL courier mission to North Korea ...
How much?  The origional "hate monger" |
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