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Ong
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
112
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Posted - 2015.10.01 17:56:33 -
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I personally don't have the time to get involved due to Uni work, however I would like to add this: Those that shout the loudest are not always right.
Hope it goes well o/ |
Darius Caliente
The Pinecone Squad
110
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Posted - 2015.10.01 18:08:00 -
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Hello,
Please accept this post as a declaration of my interest to participate in the focus group.
It would be easiest to start with the tactical destroyer stats on zkillboard for this character. You will see that i have died in and killed every T3D in the game on multiple occasions. I have used both typical fits and non-standard fits (purger svipul, ab hecate).
My life in EVE is PvP and I have an interest in all aspects of it. I also feel that not all of the recent changes to ships and modules have been positive. I feel that a number of wrong turns have been made and would like to see EVE Online stay on course. I find that the forums are detrimental to realistic discussion and conversation due to the constant noise of trolls. Another form of communication, such as a limited access Slack instance, is a wonderful way to have valuable conversations without the background noise.
Beyond my PvP life in EVE, I feel that a few things have prepared me for a situation like this:
1) My day job involves managing a team of researchers. I'm quite familiar with the notions of consensus and debate. I understand that it's not personal and it's simply business... this is an understanding that many members of these forums appear to lack. I'm also good at herding nerds and maintaining a sense of diplomacy.
2) I live and breathe pyfa. Not only do I spend my days theory crafting and messing around with fits -- most of which I will try at least once on TQ, regardless of how good or bad they are -- I also spend my days tweaking pyfa. I keep a working copy of pyfa where I modify ship stats and bonuses to see just how certain changes will affect the game. I often provide friends with modified copies of the pyfa client when changes are announced so that they can play with ship fittings ahead of time.
I think this is a great opportunity and I'd love to come along for the ride.
Thanks, Darius. |
Chessur
Mining Industry Exile Foundation Warlords of the Deep
606
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Posted - 2015.10.01 18:16:52 -
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I have flown many T3D's in solo / small gang / turny. I feel that I have a good grasp of PvP inside eve and could offer some thought provoking discussion. Please let me know if I can be of any help :) |
Great Creator
PPCORP
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Posted - 2015.10.01 18:21:16 -
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Hello - i`m wanna join to this focus group too :) \0/ i`m fly duo with my m8 usualy, but sometimes solo (espesialy when all around cry about prenerf swipul (to kill dat thing - easyyyy XD )
i think i know how to fight on/vs t3d in micro gang or solo fly on 3 of them (confy, svipul and jackdaw a little)
wanna help you with my exp :) |
Neg Negritas
Deep In Structure
0
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Posted - 2015.10.01 18:22:05 -
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I would like to apply to this group to help with the balance of T3Ds, I have flown them a lot over the last few months and think that I am reasonable good in solo pvp and analysing the current meta.
o7 Neg |
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1124
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Posted - 2015.10.01 18:35:55 -
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I usually avoid flying overpowered bullshit due to my space bushido hipster code.
because of the 25m hull cost, the 3km/s speed mode, the gatecamp immunity with the mode swapping, the endless turret overheating and just the massive increase in everything over a thrasher for only about double the cost of a basically free ship, I caved in and flew something overpowered for a while.
apologising to all my opponents, and just being seen in the svipul, it got too embarassing after a while so I stopped.
I find it kind of funny that all the instalocking svipul cancer camps around the place, the solution to them is to fly a svipul.
anyway I'm ok with jackdaws and hecates I guess, except the agility nonsense they can pull just like the others. |
BrainStraw
Mining Industry Exile Foundation Warlords of the Deep
0
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Posted - 2015.10.01 18:38:27 -
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I would like to participate in this focus group. I have been doing small gang for a long time and have very broad game knowledge, and I fly the Svipul and Confessor the most out of the 4, and these 2 in my opinion are the most unbalanced of them all. I would love to give some feedback as I want EVE to be a healthy and prosperous game, and I want to see some variety in ship choices as the game progresses. |
Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2015.10.01 18:57:37 -
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/49278481/ Still overpowered.... |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1774
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Posted - 2015.10.01 19:08:17 -
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I'll throw my hat in the ring. I can fly all four Tactical Destroyers on four different characters. I particularly love small-gang brawling in them, especially in my hull-tanked Hecate or dual-repped Confessor. I also love the tactical options presented by the ability to fit the expanded probe launcher. I've gained quite a few kills from utilizing this aspect of the ship, whether in small gang or solo. Quite apart from my in game experience with them, I think I have demonstrated an ability to communicate calmly, clearly, and politely throughout these forums.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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Danmal
Proioxis Assault Force Exodus.
27
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Posted - 2015.10.01 19:17:53 -
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This is much needed, and I am glad to see the high caliber of chaps who apply for this group. Please make sure to include some of the vehement critics of this ship class, not just its fans, in your focus group (as long as they promise to be constructive). There are many who call some ships cancer but turn out to be the greatest fans and have a whole hangar full of cancers. Please make also sure that T3D's largely meta-breaking relationship with some other ship classes (like the sadly neglected Assault Frigates) receives ample discussion.
Only looking at the ships themselves, I see the following patterns:
1. They are over-tanked in defense mode, in particular when active tanked. This has mostly to do with the size of the resist bonus. Reducing the resist bonus could be compensated for by better shield/armor HP if passive/buffer variants should be preserved.
2. They are too mobile in speed mode (both in terms of speed and align). In addition, the acceleration/insta-warp trick using mode-switching probably should not work, as somebody pointed out earlier.
3. The scan res bonus in sharpshooter mode is overpowered, whereas I find the other bonuses in that mode ok.
4. They essentially force no fitting tradeoffs when it comes to CPU (whereas they do to some extent for powergrid).
5. I do not think that they are too high DPS compared to other ships of that class.
6. I think that they have one great characteristic, which is, they are within arm's reach of the newbro compared to many other classes and provide the flexibility to do most everything that's interesting using just one ship. You might find this undesirable, but for the youngins these are great ships to look forward to.
All that said, what is probably more important is to consider carefully their supposed role in EVE and their relationship to other ship classes. |
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Feodor Romanov
Blitzkrieg Federation NEOS FLEET
20
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Posted - 2015.10.01 19:51:00 -
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Smells like T3D nerf team is forming... Common guys, do you really want to end T3D era so quickly?! Last year was like Manna from Heaven to low sec solo and small gang PVPers. When team will be formed, please, be polite, don't go to any compromises with your opponents in T3D discussion. Let us have more shiny months! |
Stitch Kaneland
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
573
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Posted - 2015.10.01 19:55:05 -
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Increase svipul sig or reduce speed and remove/nerf/reevaluate OGB. Fixes all the T3Ds and many other broken scenarios.
I have killed a lot of T3Ds and for the most part theyre all balanced except the svipul.
Confessor = cap dependent, hit it with neuts and it dies Hecate = slow, cap dependent, biggish sig Jackdaw = slow, big sig Svipul = fast, small sig, scales incredibly well with links/implants, capless guns, 10mn fits with absurd active tank.. there is really not much weakness there. Unless you hit it with medium neuts.
Svipul cant have best of both worlds of low sig and high speed. I think the better route is increasing sig on it and a minor speed nerf.
Give Battlecruisers range to fullfil their Anti-Cruiser role
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Tim Nering
R3d Fire
138
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:06:00 -
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i would like to take part. i love that this is over slack. i think t3ds need a lot of help in regard to their tradeoffs. making the swap more meaningful and needed to pilot these ships effectively. |
Virion Stoneshard
Death By Design Did he say Jump
2
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:11:33 -
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Well, that's good news! As much as I am a fan of the T3D's with their versatility and tactical choices, I do feel that they aren't quite where they should be.
I would very much like to offer my thoughts to the focus group. I am very fond of EFT warrioring, and have a solid understanding of the mechanics and math behind fittings. Not only that, but I have spent quite a large time in EVE in pvp, theorycrafting T3D fits for corporations, or for solo pvp. To give an example, an excerpt from when i proposed a golem fit for our incursion community: http://prntscr.com/8mo51z
Hope I can provide helpful thoughts :)
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Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
410
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:13:44 -
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I'm not looking to apply, but I do want to voice my support for the initiative. I hope this works out well, and that we'll see more of these in the future for other areas of gameplay!
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big miker
Rifterlings Zero.Four Ops
345
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:39:36 -
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WTB Battleship focus group
Latest video: Ferocious 6.0 Nano battleships / maruaders
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Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
1199
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:48:18 -
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im still surprised they released these after Fozzie saying they wouldn't release any T3's or even pirate bc's until they had fixed T3 cruisers.. a broken promise .. they still haven't fixed T3 cruisers yet.. and then they go and release these OP behemoths of the small ship world and obsolete everything around them that even vaguely do the same thing as them .. the hecate's ability too out dps most cruisers is so far past the line the line is now a dot too them.
T3's need to be versatile not have T2 resists, OP dps and tank obsoleting T2 ships entirely.
ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name, remove drone assist, nerf sentries, -3 highslots for droneboats
Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
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rhiload Feron-drake
TURN LEFT The Camel Empire
48
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:56:05 -
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hi! i would like to apply to the t3d focus group. i fly many t3d's in small gang pvp. |
Avery Lewis
Hoover Inc. Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:58:25 -
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I'll throw my hat in the focus group application ring. I've flown Svipuls far more than any other ship in EVE, and have tried the other 3 T3Ds as well. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Black Hydra Consortium.
2024
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Posted - 2015.10.01 21:03:10 -
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I'd love to be part of this. I've mainly flown the svipul in High, FW and both NPC and sov null. I've used it in both brawling, kiting, and utility (for FC-ing anti-ganking fleets) cofigurations. I've also flown the confessor a bit, though not in compositions that it shines in. I consider myself a pro at not remembering to swap to defensive mode when scrammed.
Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.
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Ix Method
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
460
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Posted - 2015.10.01 21:05:12 -
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Given how squarely T3Ds have dumped on AFs shouldn't they really be looked at together?
Travelling at the speed of love.
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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
292
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Posted - 2015.10.01 21:15:10 -
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I am of the opinion that the T3 Destroyers should certainly be better than T2 Frigates - but not better than T2 Cruisers. In general I've always seen the Destroyer as a frigate killer, so the T3 version being able to take on T2 AFs should be kept in mind.
In scenarios where pilots are of equal skill, the T3 should be able to defeat the AF. In scenarios where pilots are of equal skill, the T2 Cruiser should pummel the T3 Destroyer.
That is my opinion. The question is: what was CCP's expectation for T3 Destroyer performance - especially in relation to the performance against other ships? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12158
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Posted - 2015.10.01 21:31:07 -
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Chiming in to say I'm impressed with this concept, I'm curious as to how well this will work. I'm not looking to participate in this one but I'm hopeful for other aspects of the game getting this treatment.
Better the Devil you know.
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Callduron
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Squids
628
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Posted - 2015.10.01 21:45:38 -
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Chessur wrote:I have flown many T3D's in solo / small gang / turny. I feel that I have a good grasp of PvP inside eve and could offer some thought provoking discussion. Please let me know if I can be of any help :)
If you're appointed Chessur how will you dress up to ensure the correct tactical ambiance?
I write http://stabbedup.blogspot.co.uk/
I post on reddit as /u/callduron.
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Alek Row
Silent Step
53
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Posted - 2015.10.01 22:23:35 -
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Interesting decision, please don't stop after t3d, it seems almost all ship classes and a few weapon systems could use a "focus group". Best of luck to all involved, hope you all do a good job :)
Svipul, If it is op, then sure nerf it, just don't over do it please. It seems people wants to nerf svipul speed, I personally never liked the fact that svipul base speed is less than the confessor, could you please undo that, even if you nerf mass/mwd speed? Also, aren't links the major issue in all of this?
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Lucas Quaan
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
115
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Posted - 2015.10.01 22:35:46 -
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Destoya wrote:My tournament involvement also lends itself to working and communicating constructively with people who may hold different viewpoints, which I see as a very important trait to have for this focus group.
I see what you did there... :) |
Fintarue
Rifterlings Zero.Four Ops
10
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Posted - 2015.10.01 23:01:26 -
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Howdy!
Submitting my formal application to be part of this focus group. I like to think that I have quite a bit of PvP and PvE experience flying the t3d. I've flown the ship in a variety of settings, including large fleet, small gang and solo pew pew (elite try hard and not try hard).
Communication is part of my line of work, both streaming on twitch.tv on the High Drag podcast, and as a counselor. I can easily move to use slack.
This is a subject I've spent numerous hours discussing and brainstorming about on how to balance them, as I absolutely love these ships and feel as if I understand them in and out.
Fin~
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Fugue Crow
Dirt 'n' Glitter Local Is Primary
10
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Posted - 2015.10.01 23:11:33 -
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Submitting my application to the focus group. Though I've only flown Svipuls personally, i've flown them extensively and FCed large combined arms fleets with Test and Black Squad. I'm also really starting to get a feel for how much they're dominating the warzone with my recent move to faction warfare.
I also used to do game development, notably in rules and asset management, so I have a pretty decent background for it. |
Sanders Schmittlaub
New Jovian Exploration Department A Band Apart.
9
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Posted - 2015.10.01 23:22:56 -
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As someone who has both flown two of the four in both PvE and PvP (and killed a few too) and having actually built several hundred of them, I feel that I would be a benefit to the roundtable on the subject due to my involvement in T3Ds from birth to death (as it were).
Therefore I would like to formally apply to the focus group. |
Suitonia
Aliastra Gallente Federation
649
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Posted - 2015.10.01 23:23:29 -
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I would like to apply to this focus group.
I spend almost all my time in eve in PvP environments, and I'm especially knowledgeable when it comes to smaller ship classes like the Tactical Destroyers and Frigates, I would rate my knowledge of the small gang and solo meta as exceptional, and produce some very popular videos discussing the advantages/disadvantages of different ships in a class such as this Combat Interceptor Overview Video. I have flown the Svipul and Hecate quite recently, I also piloted the Confessor in the alliance Tournament, as well as spent a large amount of time practising and training in the Svipul and Confessor on singularity for the alliance tournament, so have a lot of experience in a small gang and solo setting with them all.
I have also taken part in many balance discussions on the tweetfleet slack, and here on the features and ideas forum, and would like to think of myself as a rationale person when it comes to such discussions.
Contributer to Eve is Easy:
https://www.youtube.com/user/eveiseasy/videos
Solo PvP is possible with a 20 day old character! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOB4KXYk-o
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