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Quineverre	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:02:00 - [31] Quote: Hey dont force your beliefs on everyone. This is a gaming community and not everyone is a christian or even a believer. Im an atheist. I dont celebrate christmas. Just because some ppl belive in some hocus pokus book thats 2000 years old doesnt justify it messing with my game. Im NOT gonna play today or tomorrow BUT I dont like to see eve shut down for ANY religious reason. Havent we got enough religious influence in our society, do we have to bring it into a pc game aswell? No thx. (...yes I do like to go downtown, watch ppl, see animals run around, breathe the fresh air and all that crap, but I choose to do it any day i like...) This christian sides with this. I am a christian and my partner is an atheist. Would be nonsense to push my faith on him. Besides that. Christmas for the most is about expensive food and presents. Leaving all those who are living from little money outside the christmas joy. Thats not what it was supposed to be religiously. Our countries have freedom of religion wich to often gets used by religious folk to push their ideas on others. About time the atheists get the right of freedom from religion instead of getting it forced on them. So to all who celebrate .. Have a merry christmas. And to the pagans. Happy Yule and sorry for stealing your day cause it fitted so nicely with the birthstory of Jesus. To the jews happy Chanuka. To the moslims enjoy this periode leading toward Eid ul-Adha. And to the atheist all I can say is .. Have fun doing something you like on this free day off from work and school.
Trak Cranker Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:33:00 - [32] Edited by: Trak Cranker on 24/12/2006 12:32:49 I really like Eve. I really like my family. I really like good food. I really like presents. Why should I not get to have all four things on especially this day? One does not preclude the other.
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:45:00 - [33] Originally by: Quineverre .. Have a merry christmas. And to the pagans. Happy Yule and sorry for stealing your day cause it fitted so nicely with the birthstory of Jesus... It is so refreshing to hear from a Christian that doesn't think we all got wiped out four centuries ago. Thank you. In the spirit of your message I wish you a Merry Christmas. I would happily debate that Yule became the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ as many early missions to Pagan lands found themselves isolated for long periods. Many Christian customs have a strong undercurrent of Paganism behind them. In most cases I suspect it was just pragmatic for early Christians to allow a religious melting pot to occur. For instance Christians originally used the fish as their symbol. The crucifix appears to have become popular after the missionaries reached Norse and Saxon lands. There the Odin story was well known. Odin hung for nine days and nights on Yggrasil, the world tree if you will. Wounded in the flank by his own spear. During the trial he stole the mysteries and knowledge of the runes from the gods and gave them to man. You should be able to find it in detail in a translation of The Prose Edda. Needless to say the similarities between Odin on Yggrasil and the modern story of Christ on the cross are obvious. Christmas and the midwinter festival of Yule we have covered. Another one is Easter. It takes it's name from the fertility goddess Eostre. It was a time of planting and.... sowing wild oats . Lets just say the Easter egg hunt is symbolic of another tradition. No doubt the festivals message of death and rebirth (death of winter, birth of new life in spring) fitted well with the story of Christ's execution and ascention. Many years ago an old aquaintance of mine studying these things told me that combined with Arabic stellar observations at the time and Roman records of the Bethlehem census it puts Christs birthday sometime around September by the modern calander. Unfortunatly my aquaintance died may years ago and I have no idea where they got all this from. I think one of the few festivals not adopted by the Christians is Halloween. We call it Sam'hain and it marks the begining of a new year. Plenty of food for thought and no need to apologise. There are many of us us but not enough anymore. If it were not for so many Christian holidays being at the same time as Pagan festivals I'd have to keep taking annual leave to celebrate them. >> RECRUITING <<
Phyrr Minmatar The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:47:00 - [34] Originally by: Senti Kai There was a nice bit on the History Channel about the orgins of the x-mas celebration. Very interesting. Noone should feel guilty about skipping the day, there's 364 others you can spend with your family, and if people need brainwashing from corporations to spend time with the family, then there's a problem there. damn straight
Phyrr Minmatar The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:51:00 - [35] Edited by: Phyrr on 24/12/2006 14:51:23 Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Originally by: Quineverre .. Have a merry christmas. And to the pagans. Happy Yule and sorry for stealing your day cause it fitted so nicely with the birthstory of Jesus... It is so refreshing to hear from a Christian that doesn't think we all got wiped out four centuries ago. Thank you. In the spirit of your message I wish you a Merry Christmas. I would happily debate that Yule became the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ as many early missions to Pagan lands found themselves isolated for long periods. Many Christian customs have a strong undercurrent of Paganism behind them. In most cases I suspect it was just pragmatic for early Christians to allow a religious melting pot to occur. For instance Christians originally used the fish as their symbol. The crucifix appears to have become popular after the missionaries reached Norse and Saxon lands. There the Odin story was well known. Odin hung for nine days and nights on Yggrasil, the world tree if you will. Wounded in the flank by his own spear. During the trial he stole the mysteries and knowledge of the runes from the gods and gave them to man. You should be able to find it in detail in a translation of The Prose Edda. Needless to say the similarities between Odin on Yggrasil and the modern story of Christ on the cross are obvious. Christmas and the midwinter festival of Yule we have covered. Another one is Easter. It takes it's name from the fertility goddess Eostre. It was a time of planting and.... sowing wild oats . Lets just say the Easter egg hunt is symbolic of another tradition. No doubt the festivals message of death and rebirth (death of winter, birth of new life in spring) fitted well with the story of Christ's execution and ascention. Many years ago an old aquaintance of mine studying these things told me that combined with Arabic stellar observations at the time and Roman records of the Bethlehem census it puts Christs birthday sometime around September by the modern calander. Unfortunatly my aquaintance died may years ago and I have no idea where they got all this from. I think one of the few festivals not adopted by the Christians is Halloween. We call it Sam'hain and it marks the begining of a new year. Plenty of food for thought and no need to apologise. There are many of us us but not enough anymore. If it were not for so many Christian holidays being at the same time as Pagan festivals I'd have to keep taking annual leave to celebrate them. just thought i'd point out that your a christian in a roleplaying alliance fighting against a monotheistic race and merry christmas to you
Xriss Ravana	Posted - 2006.12.24 15:13:00 - [36] Edited by: Xriss Ravana on 24/12/2006 15:14:12 I cant spend the holidays with my family, and my friends are all spending it with theirs. So its sit in myself with a cr@cker and some turkey sandwiches or play a game where I have some friends I can talk to about stuff. Not everyone has the luxury of a family to hang out with, or friends who are always there for them. Dont presume that we all have something better to do. P.S Can you believe that cr@cker is filtered?
Demora Anglis Amarr The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.24 15:34:00 - [37] I have nightmares about my Myrmidon being blown up by somebody who scanned out my SS. Is that considered playing too much? Originally by: Zappapapa I beat a Dominix and an Armageddon with a Dominix, thus Dominix > Dominix + Armageddon. Subtracting a Dominix from each side gives you 0 > Armageddon. QED, Amarr
sdthujfg	Posted - 2006.12.24 17:41:00 - [38] Originally by: Quineverre Quote: Hey dont force your beliefs on everyone. This is a gaming community and not everyone is a christian or even a believer. Im an atheist. I dont celebrate christmas. Just because some ppl belive in some hocus pokus book thats 2000 years old doesnt justify it messing with my game. Im NOT gonna play today or tomorrow BUT I dont like to see eve shut down for ANY religious reason. Havent we got enough religious influence in our society, do we have to bring it into a pc game aswell? No thx. (...yes I do like to go downtown, watch ppl, see animals run around, breathe the fresh air and all that crap, but I choose to do it any day i like...) This christian sides with this. I am a christian and my partner is an atheist. Would be nonsense to push my faith on him. Besides that. Christmas for the most is about expensive food and presents. Leaving all those who are living from little money outside the christmas joy. Thats not what it was supposed to be religiously. Our countries have freedom of religion wich to often gets used by religious folk to push their ideas on others. About time the atheists get the right of freedom from religion instead of getting it forced on them. So to all who celebrate .. Have a merry christmas. And to the pagans. Happy Yule and sorry for stealing your day cause it fitted so nicely with the birthstory of Jesus. To the jews happy Chanuka. To the moslims enjoy this periode leading toward Eid ul-Adha. And to the atheist all I can say is .. Have fun doing something you like on this free day off from work and school. Well said. I wish there were more believers like you. I have nothing against peoples beliefs. Saying "You should belive this or you should not belive" is like telling someone what to think. And to the OP: What do you propose people to do on christmas eve/day if they dont celebrate it? Cant go to movies, they are closed. Cant see your friends, they all with their families. You cant really do much else then play eve...and as someone stated above, you can spend time with love ones and do non-eve stuff every other day of the year aswell.
Hakera Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.24 17:51:00 - [39] regardless of what you choose to call the next week, whether its business as usual or the one time a year your family & freinds gather (I dont care about the religious significance but the chance to see all my family). No one here can dictate the choices you make and if it were my choice to spend some of tomorrow on eve, that is mine to make, not yours. CCP are not here either to dictate what we do outside the game. They are here to provide a service which we pay for 365 days of the year (therabouts). Let people enjoy the holidays, whatever that means to them, not to you.
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.26 00:30:00 - [40] Originally by: Phyrr Edited by: Phyrr on 24/12/2006 14:51:23 Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Originally by: Quineverre .. Have a merry christmas. And to the pagans. Happy Yule and sorry for stealing your day cause it fitted so nicely with the birthstory of Jesus... It is so refreshing to hear from a Christian that doesn't think we all got wiped out four centuries ago. Thank you. In the spirit of your message I wish you a Merry Christmas. I would happily debate that Yule became the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ as many early missions to Pagan lands found themselves isolated for long periods. Many Christian customs have a strong undercurrent of Paganism behind them. In most cases I suspect it was just pragmatic for early Christians to allow a religious melting pot to occur. For instance Christians originally used the fish as their symbol. The crucifix appears to have become popular after the missionaries reached Norse and Saxon lands. There the Odin story was well known. Odin hung for nine days and nights on Yggrasil, the world tree if you will. Wounded in the flank by his own spear. During the trial he stole the mysteries and knowledge of the runes from the gods and gave them to man. You should be able to find it in detail in a translation of The Prose Edda. Needless to say the similarities between Odin on Yggrasil and the modern story of Christ on the cross are obvious. Christmas and the midwinter festival of Yule we have covered. Another one is Easter. It takes it's name from the fertility goddess Eostre. It was a time of planting and.... sowing wild oats . Lets just say the Easter egg hunt is symbolic of another tradition. No doubt the festivals message of death and rebirth (death of winter, birth of new life in spring) fitted well with the story of Christ's execution and ascention. Many years ago an old aquaintance of mine studying these things told me that combined with Arabic stellar observations at the time and Roman records of the Bethlehem census it puts Christs birthday sometime around September by the modern calander. Unfortunatly my aquaintance died may years ago and I have no idea where they got all this from. I think one of the few festivals not adopted by the Christians is Halloween. We call it Sam'hain and it marks the begining of a new year. Plenty of food for thought and no need to apologise. There are many of us us but not enough anymore. If it were not for so many Christian holidays being at the same time as Pagan festivals I'd have to keep taking annual leave to celebrate them. just thought i'd point out that your a christian in a roleplaying alliance fighting against a monotheistic race and merry christmas to you I don't know how you came to that conclusion, I am a pagan. Born and raised. Hence my response to Quinverre wishing us pagans a happy Yule. I am indeed in a role play alliance, even before that I have always been a roleplayer in Eve. Indeed the Amarr are a monotheastic faith. The funny part being I got an invite to play Eve from a mate and he said "roll Minmatar" so I did. Having been a punk in my youth and liking the gear head description of the Sebiestor I rolled a Sebie. The rest came after. Had he said "roll Amarr" I could just have easily ended up purifying the heathens with holy fire. Anyway, not sure about the point of your post. Just felt the need to clear up the misunderstanding. I am not Christian. Merry Christmas. >> RECRUITING <<

Dale Cussler Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.12.26 00:41:00 - [41] I spent most of the day with family, and decided to play some EVE after dinner when everyone buggered off :D It's either that or watch TV, and there ain't nothing on, so I might as well go enjoy myself with some random killing. Funny though, my gang got b*tched out because we killed a guy on xmas day, I mean, dude.. just because it's christmas doesn't mean I suddenly decide to stop killing stuff.
Professor Wilkins	Posted - 2006.12.26 00:41:00 - [42] I think spending christmas with your family is important, but for some christmas can be lonely or they do not believe in christmas, people must respect the persons choice of freewill. Those who are the minority may enjoy playing with like minded people. Way things going, tradition is going out the window, we are moving on and christmas will be celebrated in a different context. Also think of this the future family may sit around an lcd and play eve as a family. People who play eve now will have children and they will want to play.
Siriyana Astrum Contract Services Group	Posted - 2006.12.26 00:42:00 - [43] Admit it, you like duct tape far too much to ever roll an Amarr. ----- CEO, Astrum Contract Services Group
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2006.12.26 00:59:00 - [44] Originally by: Himo Amasacia I'll actually answer that one. No, I dont know what is good for anyone else, but I do know that sitting in front of a computer screen playing a virtual game on christmass cannot be good for you. There is exactly one person on this planet who knows whats good for me, and thats me. By uttering this pathetic nonsense, you crossed a very fine line into shame and villainy. Now go spend your time with your family, or even better yet, offer help to those who actually both need it and ask for it.
Fodderrr	Posted - 2006.12.26 02:19:00 - [45] Am i the only one that doesnt leave the house when its xmas day? F'me even the bus service has a day off. And no way am i singing carols just to get in the xmas spirit.
Phyrr Minmatar The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2006.12.26 02:27:00 - [46] Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Originally by: Phyrr Edited by: Phyrr on 24/12/2006 14:51:23 Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Originally by: Quineverre .. Have a merry christmas. And to the pagans. Happy Yule and sorry for stealing your day cause it fitted so nicely with the birthstory of Jesus... It is so refreshing to hear from a Christian that doesn't think we all got wiped out four centuries ago. Thank you. In the spirit of your message I wish you a Merry Christmas. I would happily debate that Yule became the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ as many early missions to Pagan lands found themselves isolated for long periods. Many Christian customs have a strong undercurrent of Paganism behind them. In most cases I suspect it was just pragmatic for early Christians to allow a religious melting pot to occur. For instance Christians originally used the fish as their symbol. The crucifix appears to have become popular after the missionaries reached Norse and Saxon lands. There the Odin story was well known. Odin hung for nine days and nights on Yggrasil, the world tree if you will. Wounded in the flank by his own spear. During the trial he stole the mysteries and knowledge of the runes from the gods and gave them to man. You should be able to find it in detail in a translation of The Prose Edda. Needless to say the similarities between Odin on Yggrasil and the modern story of Christ on the cross are obvious. Christmas and the midwinter festival of Yule we have covered. Another one is Easter. It takes it's name from the fertility goddess Eostre. It was a time of planting and.... sowing wild oats . Lets just say the Easter egg hunt is symbolic of another tradition. No doubt the festivals message of death and rebirth (death of winter, birth of new life in spring) fitted well with the story of Christ's execution and ascention. Many years ago an old aquaintance of mine studying these things told me that combined with Arabic stellar observations at the time and Roman records of the Bethlehem census it puts Christs birthday sometime around September by the modern calander. Unfortunatly my aquaintance died may years ago and I have no idea where they got all this from. I think one of the few festivals not adopted by the Christians is Halloween. We call it Sam'hain and it marks the begining of a new year. Plenty of food for thought and no need to apologise. There are many of us us but not enough anymore. If it were not for so many Christian holidays being at the same time as Pagan festivals I'd have to keep taking annual leave to celebrate them. just thought i'd point out that your a christian in a roleplaying alliance fighting against a monotheistic race and merry christmas to you I don't know how you came to that conclusion, I am a pagan. Born and raised. Hence my response to Quinverre wishing us pagans a happy Yule. I am indeed in a role play alliance, even before that I have always been a roleplayer in Eve. Indeed the Amarr are a monotheastic faith. The funny part being I got an invite to play Eve from a mate and he said "roll Minmatar" so I did. Having been a punk in my youth and liking the gear head description of the Sebiestor I rolled a Sebie. The rest came after. Had he said "roll Amarr" I could just have easily ended up purifying the heathens with holy fire. Anyway, not sure about the point of your post. Just felt the need to clear up the misunderstanding. I am not Christian. Merry Christmas. sorry i was drunk when reading your post
Stratharn	Posted - 2006.12.26 05:22:00 - [47] Heh, well... I spent a good 12 hours socialising with my and my partner's families, and still managed to find time to log into WoW (I KNOW! LEAVE ME ALONE!) to pick up my Xmas goodies, and Eve to flick over a skill. My girl would kill me if I spent hours over Christmas playing, but she's quite happy for me to play when there aren't family things to do, so (shrug) no complaints. :-) Rob http://www.webel.co.nz/
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.26 12:19:00 - [48] Originally by: Phyrr Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Originally by: Phyrr Edited by: Phyrr on 24/12/2006 14:51:23 Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Originally by: Quineverre .. Have a merry christmas. And to the pagans. Happy Yule and sorry for stealing your day cause it fitted so nicely with the birthstory of Jesus... It is so refreshing to hear from a Christian that doesn't think we all got wiped out four centuries ago. Thank you. In the spirit of your message I wish you a Merry Christmas. I would happily debate that Yule became the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ as many early missions to Pagan lands found themselves isolated for long periods. Many Christian customs have a strong undercurrent of Paganism behind them. In most cases I suspect it was just pragmatic for early Christians to allow a religious melting pot to occur. For instance Christians originally used the fish as their symbol. The crucifix appears to have become popular after the missionaries reached Norse and Saxon lands. There the Odin story was well known. Odin hung for nine days and nights on Yggrasil, the world tree if you will. Wounded in the flank by his own spear. During the trial he stole the mysteries and knowledge of the runes from the gods and gave them to man. You should be able to find it in detail in a translation of The Prose Edda. Needless to say the similarities between Odin on Yggrasil and the modern story of Christ on the cross are obvious. Christmas and the midwinter festival of Yule we have covered. Another one is Easter. It takes it's name from the fertility goddess Eostre. It was a time of planting and.... sowing wild oats . Lets just say the Easter egg hunt is symbolic of another tradition. No doubt the festivals message of death and rebirth (death of winter, birth of new life in spring) fitted well with the story of Christ's execution and ascention. .... I think one of the few festivals not adopted by the Christians is Halloween. We call it Sam'hain and it marks the begining of a new year. Plenty of food for thought and no need to apologise. There are many of us us but not enough anymore. If it were not for so many Christian holidays being at the same time as Pagan festivals I'd have to keep taking annual leave to celebrate them. just thought i'd point out that your a christian in a roleplaying alliance fighting against a monotheistic race and merry christmas to you I don't know how you came to that conclusion, I am a pagan. Born and raised. Hence my response to Quinverre wishing us pagans a happy Yule. I am indeed in a role play alliance, even before that I have always been a roleplayer in Eve. Indeed the Amarr are a monotheastic faith. The funny part being I got an invite to play Eve from a mate and he said "roll Minmatar" so I did. Having been a punk in my youth and liking the gear head description of the Sebiestor I rolled a Sebie. The rest came after. Had he said "roll Amarr" I could just have easily ended up purifying the heathens with holy fire. Anyway, not sure about the point of your post. Just felt the need to clear up the misunderstanding. I am not Christian. Merry Christmas. sorry i was drunk when reading your post Good man!! no need to apologise. I was confused and like your self drunk. For the record I spent xmas day feasting then once the rug rats were all tucked up me and the missus butchered a load of Stormtroopers in Battlefront II. Then today was spent cleaning, playing with chalk and felt monsters, squeezing boxes into a wheelie bin, playing with Dora the Explorers Kitchen whatsit.. you get the idea. Now it's time to ***** open that bottle of vintage port I got and load Eve. Bottom line in all of this, your family / religious obligations are your own. If you want to play Eve over xmas then so be it. No need to justify it to anyone here. If you log into Eve though, remember it's business as usual. >> RECRUITING <<


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