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Captain Havoc
Caldari
Galactic Liberation Forces
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Posted - 2006.12.24 11:12:00 -
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Ok now this might sound weird to you since i haven't heard of an actual confirmed case of hacking or cheating in eve yet, but i do believe i just expierenced one, i was fly with my alt in a Occator with all T2 expanders (2 in the hold to accomodate for some stabs) and a Estamel Modified Cloak on board, rather pricey, i warped to the Konora gate and saw a pirate in a Typhoon sitting there, since i didn't really want him to follow me through into the low sec i thought i'd sit and wait, hopefully he'd get bored at staring at me and fire a shot then i could jump through without him following me, but no, i landed about 2-3k's from him when i came out of warp at the gate, he didn't even lock me, he did however ram me, he went from a complete stand still to ramming my Occator out to 1.7k/s, so he accelerated enough to do that within 2-3k's? i don't think that's right, can anyone think of any module (even the newly changed inertial damps) that could afford a BS that kind of acceleration? i don't think so, but anyways, after he rammed me out from the gate i realise i wasn't locked, so i hit the cloak, i cloaked, he swung back into ram me againabout 2 seconds later barely missing me and decloaking me, he didn't have enough point for a scram but he continued to ram me, my Occator was staying at about 1k/s due to this ramming and being pushed all over the place, no chance to align to warp out, he popped me finally, 200 or so mil down the drain, question is how the hell did a BS get that much acceleration in such a short distance, then continue to be all over me more than a inty would, i think there's some cheating going on here, something isn't right and i sure hope CCP finds out what it is, if it is cheating, i hope that he is permabanned, if it turns out to be all within the standard modules of the game, then damn, i'm going to get me one, the lameness never ceases, ramming to stop people from warping, i guess that's why pirates are pirates, they don't mind being lame.
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Sonos SAGD
Minmatar
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.24 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Sonos SAGD on 24/12/2006 11:16:46
probally a gisti a-100 mwd with all nanos
probally doesn't even have to be gitsi
remeber minnies are build for speed, we have very low mass and our ships can go the fastest even after he speed nerf they did
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CaptainSeafort
Gallente
Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2006.12.24 11:16:00 -
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if it really was 1.7km/s from standing in 3km, then id say thats definitely dodgy. no combination of modules, implants and skills i can think of would give that level of acceleration in a BS 0.o
"Planets and moons no longer hitch rides on player ships. Their towel privileges have been revoked." HHGG Lives on in EVE! |
Spy4Hire
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Posted - 2006.12.24 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Spy4Hire on 24/12/2006 11:18:24
*LOL*
Not an exploit or a hack... it's called just what you said: Ramming.
A typhoon is inherantly fast and nimble for a BS, and when you load the lows with nanofibers it can really zip. And all it needs is about 2km to be at a speed quite easily capable of bumping something as light as a hauler several kilometers with one hit.
Because you sat still he was freely able to take aim. If you want to avoid that, set your ship to orbit the gate at 500 meters and the typhoon won't have the agility to hit you easily... though a good cruiser might.
So, watch out, and next time just hit the gate and keep on running.
Though the gate guns should have absoltuely raped a nanophoon when it opened fire... even in 0.1 because it has almost no resistances.
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CaptainSeafort
Gallente
Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2006.12.24 11:25:00 -
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ive just redone the sums. me made a teensy maths error xD
assuming constant acceleration (i know its not in eve =P)
s 3km
t -
u 0km/s
v 1.7km/s
a ?km/s/s
v^2=u^2 + 2as
2.89=6a
a= 481m/s^2
thats just about attainable in a BS, and as acceleration in eve is non linear, the actual acceleration for this frame would likely be more extreme.
"Planets and moons no longer hitch rides on player ships. Their towel privileges have been revoked." HHGG Lives on in EVE! |
Roy Batty68
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Posted - 2006.12.24 11:31:00 -
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It seems like alot of EVE is gravitating towards
- grind skill X for whatever amount of time
- click a button to apply skill X
Given that, I'd hardly label something that actually takes some player know how to use as "lame". Sure, if it was just another skill, Ramming Level 5, grind that out and get in a fast BS and woohoo!! Teh winzor! Yeah, that'd be lame.
But to actually train up the appropriate skills, put a ship together to accomodate that style of play, and then use it successfully? Pretty darn cool imo.
 Originally by: Big Al
Well, if there was a law against stupidity, the server would certainly lag less.
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Captain Havoc
Caldari
Galactic Liberation Forces
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Posted - 2006.12.24 11:58:00 -
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Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day..
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Stroke
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Posted - 2006.12.24 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Havoc
Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day..
/violin 
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Tara'Quoya Rax
Black-Sun
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Posted - 2006.12.24 12:04:00 -
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Don't forget to factor in potential rigs too
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Captain Havoc
Caldari
Galactic Liberation Forces
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Posted - 2006.12.24 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Stroke
Originally by: Captain Havoc
Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day..
/violin
See the *****s that are out there, this is the kind of person who walks past a car accident where someones died and laughs.
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Cor'len
Inquest
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Posted - 2006.12.24 12:13:00 -
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Ah, stop feeling so sorry for yeself.
As for the acceleration, entirely possible. And how'd it go from being rammed in hisec (as you make it seem like, with the blabber about a lowsec gate) to dying?
/violin, indeed. Even
/cello.
;)
-Cor
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Stroke
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Posted - 2006.12.24 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Havoc
Originally by: Stroke
Originally by: Captain Havoc
Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day..
/violin
See the *****s that are out there, this is the kind of person who walks past a car accident where someones died and laughs.
Are you actually trying to compare a virtual loss in a game, a game that encourages building and destruction, with a real accident where a human being is injured?
Seriously, take a deep breath and rethink it.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.24 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Havoc
Originally by: Stroke
Originally by: Captain Havoc
Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day..
/violin
See the *****s that are out there, this is the kind of person who walks past a car accident where someones died and laughs.
Take a step back, and look at what he did, and look at what you're doing.
You flew an undefended hauler around low sec, and got yourself trashed by a player who knew what he was doing and acted fast, while clearly understanding the way the game works much more than you. Do you really think he was getting off on you being unhappy?
He got an officer fitted hauler kill on christmas Eve, complete with t2 expanders. You just made his christmas, and all you can think about is getting him banned? WHAT KIND OF JOY HATING FACIST ARE YOU?
If there was a fire in an orphanage on Christmas day, I bet you'd laugh!
(please note, the above post may contain traces of sarcasm)
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing.
RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.24 12:22:00 -
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I'm pretty sure it's easily possible, only the other day I saw a phoon go from 15km from the gate to about 300km off in about 30 seconds, doing something like 8.5km/s.
CALL THE NERFWAGON!
But seriously, that's rediculous.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.12.24 12:23:00 -
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Drop the nanofiers, put in inertia stabilizers.
That way you get the most out of the MWD.
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The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing.
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Timmy Bettenson
Caldari
Total Mayhem.
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.24 12:24:00 -
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i ram in my interceptor to knock stabbed indy's out of alingment or off gates, but i haven't heard of a battleship that can do it lol.
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Roy Batty68
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Posted - 2006.12.24 12:31:00 -
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I copied this quote from the bio of a character named Sienna. Sienna was apparently quoting Rudyard Kipling, so I'm not too awfully worried about losing cool points for copying someone else's bio. Anyway, I keep it in my bio now to remind me what EVE should be should I get too freaked out about something.
"If you can make one heap of all your winnings,
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings,
And never breathe a word about your loss..."
--Rudyard Kipling
I think it's a pretty fitting sentiment for EVE. Maybe you should put it in your bio. Maybe it'll catch on.
Originally by: Big Al
Well, if there was a law against stupidity, the server would certainly lag less.
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Captain Havoc
Caldari
Galactic Liberation Forces
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Posted - 2006.12.24 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Cor'len
Ah, stop feeling so sorry for yeself.
As for the acceleration, entirely possible. And how'd it go from being rammed in hisec (as you make it seem like, with the blabber about a lowsec gate) to dying?
/violin, indeed. Even
/cello.
;)
I was going from N-RAEL out to Konora, i didn't want him following me through, we'll see what the petition comes up with about his uberramming, sure i might have made his Christmas but i've just lost 200mil of stuff i've worked for, and i do mean worked for, game or not sitting in a belt mining and/or NPCing is work, i don't enjoy it one bit, so i had to work to get that stuff and some ***** takes that away, and on christmas eve of all days!!! i've had just about enough this game, it's becoming over crowded and lame, warfare is all gank now and no fun, to many kids play and all the seriousness has left the game.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2006.12.24 12:49:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 24/12/2006 12:53:10
Originally by: Captain Havoc
Originally by: Stroke
Originally by: Captain Havoc
Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day..
/violin
See the *****s that are out there, this is the kind of person who walks past a car accident where someones died and laughs.
First of all this is a game which promotes the big bangs. Yes, you lost a valuable ship. Im sorry for that, but to start calling people who plays the game for people who smash you ingame for predators in real life is just to take it a bit too far. After all this is a PvP game!!!
For example. I was at this years fanfest on Iceland where I met Istvaan Shogutsu. That man have got a pretty vile reputation. But in real life he is a great guy I had a small conversation with. The morale in the story? NEVER MIX REAL LIFE AND GAME LIFE!
I have lost valable ships too. My last ship was a T2 fitted Deimos I lost. That loss sent like 360 million isk straight into the sink! Did I complain about the bastards who podded me on the forums? Heck NO! I did a lot of swearing to myself tho. But then, looking back on it, I had only myself to blame. NEVER UNDERESTIMATE YOUR ENEMY! And never blame your enemies for your own mistakes!!
EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER |
Ki An
Gallente
Ghouls
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Posted - 2006.12.24 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Havoc
Whine whine whine
Dude, you've got noone to blame but yourself. You are NOT untouchable in a hauler, even an elite one. You are NOT untouchable on Christmas Eve. If you choose to play EVE on Christmas, expect to get killed on Christmas. Also, this is one of those kills that took actual player skills. That guy deserved his killed. You're just a whiney baby who got his toy taken away. Toughen up, ffs!
Normally don't like to kick a man when he's down, but man are you asking for it.
/Ki
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.12.24 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Havoc
Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day..
Suck to be you. How about You stop yelling HAX!!!!!111!!, get off your carebear ass, and go find him with a couple of mates and KILL HIM?
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Robke
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Robke on 24/12/2006 13:12:15
Petitions should cost isk that gets refunded only when the petition is valid. Petitions like yours are just clogging up the petition-pipes for valid ones to be processed.
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Mysterlee
Gallente
5punkorp
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:12:00 -
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It was your own fault tbh, you were in 0.0 on a gate into low sec, he was in a nanophoon with no tank, if you jumped he wouldnt be able to kill you because he cant tank the low sec sentries in a nanophoon 
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Araxmas
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Havoc
so i had to work to get that stuff and some ***** takes that away,
and on christmas eve of all days!
1, No a ***** didn't take it away just a ***** thought his t2 hauler was invincible
Originally by: Captain Havoc
i've had just about enough this game, it's becoming over crowded and lame
2, overcrowded and lame? You got killed by one guy in a bs how is that because of overcrowding
Originally by: Captain Havoc
warfare is all gank now and no fun
3, Warfare is all gank? You got solo killed by a guy who knew more than you thats not a gank.
Originally by: Captain Havoc
to many kids play and all the seriousness has left the game.
4, Yes you are a kid and seeing as how you are trashing the game because you died suggests that YOU take things too seriously.
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Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:20:00 -
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Any sensible person would go round N-Rael anyway, everybody knows its pretty much a deathtrap, it was most likely the very same phoon I was talking about, since I was near there at the time.
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Phreyd
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:25:00 -
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You so have to be kidding . You got caught and popped fair and square. Oh and it's a a GAME !! Really be serious !!!! You must be joking even now. Dude if it irks you that much time for a new game, for you, Might I suggest the Carebears Unleashed?? . When i need to haul stuff its called a warship full tank and weapons. I have saved my own butt that way more then once also ummm waiting for him at the gate was mistake 2 um pirate at gate and you want to wait him out ? Grab a safe spot and get in it warp away at first then think and plan. But Other wise lighten up ohhh and if this annoys you that much then Quit this is not the game for you and if you do Can I Have Your Stuff????
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NotAHaulerAlt
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:26:00 -
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Edited by: NotAHaulerAlt on 24/12/2006 13:25:53
Crap, wrong char
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Akane Miyamoto
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
NEVER MIX REAL LIFE AND GAME LIFE!
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE YOUR ENEMY!
And never blame your enemies for your own mistakes!!
Amen. 
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c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies
S.E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:27:00 -
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my phoon goes 5,800 m/s in an all t1 setup. I love to hunt down mediocre fitted ceptors with it. Any questions? :)
Regards
P.S.: It's pretty easy nowadays to bring BS at that kind of speed and it really makes the Eve combat fast paced. Love it.
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Kaar
Art of War
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Havoc
i warped to the Konora gate and saw a pirate in a Typhoon sitting there, since i didn't really want him to follow me through into the low sec i thought i'd sit and wait
You sat in n-rael(0.0) rather than jumping through to konora(0.4?) because you thought a phoon would shoot and kill your T2 hauler in lowsec?
You only have yourself to blame.
GG nanophoon pilot! 
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Allan Robertson
Gallente
Azure Horizon
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:30:00 -
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I would recommend NOT posting things like this on the forums, you have to remember it and EVE is full of young-teenage-snotty-ex-SWG players, keeping that in mind these people are going to try to make your day a misery.
My advice is... Don't bring it to the forums with this bunch you will never find any constructive reply s, you will just get flamed and thus this will reinforce their egos more.
And to any pirates out there, don't give me any of that "but I'm a saint in RL" crap, I've been on a TS with a bunch of -10 pirates, and I know what they are like.
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Ki An
Gallente
Ghouls
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Ki An on 24/12/2006 13:34:40
And, for the OP, something just for you 
Oh, and that goes for the... thing... just above me as well 
/Ki
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Kaar
Art of War
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Allan Robertson
And to any pirates out there, don't give me any of that "but I'm a saint in RL" crap, I've been on a TS with a bunch of -10 pirates, and I know what they are like.
Oh do tell?
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Allan Robertson
Gallente
Azure Horizon
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An
Edited by: Ki An on 24/12/2006 13:34:40
And, for the OP, something just for you
Oh, and that goes for the... thing... just above me as well
/Ki
This guy proves my point.
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Ki An
Gallente
Ghouls
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Allan Robertson
This guy proves my point.
Yeah, I'm an ***hole. I'm no pirate, but I'm an ***hole
/Ki
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Akane Miyamoto
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Allan Robertson
I would recommend NOT posting things like this on the forums, you have to remember it and EVE is full of young-teenage-snotty-ex-SWG players, keeping that in mind these people are going to try to make your day a misery.
My advice is... Don't bring it to the forums with this bunch you will never find any constructive reply s, you will just get flamed and thus this will reinforce their egos more.
And to any pirates out there, don't give me any of that "but I'm a saint in RL" crap, I've been on a TS with a bunch of -10 pirates, and I know what they are like.
Yes, I'm only 18 and still a teenager but does that make me any worse than you? And no I've never even played SWG and yes, griefing is part of my playing style.
It's true, topics like these attract flaming and trolling but when you think hard enough through that thick clot in your brain you might realize why, because the reason is quite ovbious.
I find your last statement rather sad.. Living your life and stereotyping and categorizing every single person just because you've had a bad experience with some of them. Not everyone can like you no matter what you do mate. And judging a person without even knowing him is pointless and childish.
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Allan Robertson
Gallente
Azure Horizon
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kaar
Originally by: Allan Robertson
And to any pirates out there, don't give me any of that "but I'm a saint in RL" crap, I've been on a TS with a bunch of -10 pirates, and I know what they are like.
Oh do tell?
A bunch of hyper testosterone overdosed teens with egos that would put Ginger Magician to shame, yea ok I know not all pirates are like
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Allan Robertson
Gallente
Azure Horizon
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:44:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Akane Miyamoto
Originally by: Allan Robertson
I would recommend NOT posting things like this on the forums, you have to remember it and EVE is full of young-teenage-snotty-ex-SWG players, keeping that in mind these people are going to try to make your day a misery.
My advice is... Don't bring it to the forums with this bunch you will never find any constructive reply s, you will just get flamed and thus this will reinforce their egos more.
And to any pirates out there, don't give me any of that "but I'm a saint in RL" crap, I've been on a TS with a bunch of -10 pirates, and I know what they are like.
Yes, I'm only 18 and still a teenager but does that make me any worse than you? And no I've never even played SWG and yes, griefing is part of my playing style.
It's true, topics like these attract flaming and trolling but when you think hard enough through that thick clot in your brain you might realize why, because the reason is quite ovbious.
I find your last statement rather sad.. Living your life and stereotyping and categorizing every single person just because you've had a bad experience with some of them. Not everyone can like you no matter what you do mate. And judging a person without even knowing him is pointless and childish.
You have a lot to learn about people, and these days it's soo easy to get people offended, I could have a field day with this.
You might be a snotty little brat now, but don't worry you will grow up, enjoy.
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NotAHaulerAlt
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:49:00 -
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Edited by: NotAHaulerAlt on 24/12/2006 13:50:31
Originally by: Allan Robertson
You have a lot to learn about people, and these days it's soo easy to get people offended, I could have a field day with this.
You might be a snotty little brat now, but don't worry you will grow up, enjoy.
True.. A lot of people no matter what age (Including me myself) are so easy to insult. And what's the rush growing up? I still have few years of studies, life and "nolife" to enjoy
God I hate this forum for still not remembering to use my main as default posting character... 
-Akane Miyamoto
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Taaketa Frist
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:51:00 -
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A phoon fully kitted out with Inertia stabs will pretty much turn as fast as a frig or at least a cruiser. The inertia stabs will also give an increase in speed and he is probably using a named MWD to bump you about.
Kinda odd setup but it seemed to work to gank you anyway.
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Allen Deckard
Gallente
LFC
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.24 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Havoc
Originally by: Cor'len
Ah, stop feeling so sorry for yeself.
As for the acceleration, entirely possible. And how'd it go from being rammed in hisec (as you make it seem like, with the blabber about a lowsec gate) to dying?
/violin, indeed. Even
/cello.
;)
I was going from N-RAEL out to Konora, i didn't want him following me through, we'll see what the petition comes up with about his uberramming, sure i might have made his Christmas but i've just lost 200mil of stuff i've worked for, and i do mean worked for, game or not sitting in a belt mining and/or NPCing is work, i don't enjoy it one bit, so i had to work to get that stuff and some ***** takes that away, and on christmas eve of all days!!! i've had just about enough this game, it's becoming over crowded and lame, warfare is all gank now and no fun, to many kids play and all the seriousness has left the game.
Dont really have any opinion of anything else you put up but why exactly are you playing a game that has so much you dont enjoy? Personally I enjoy (somewhat) most of the game. I realize alot of people enjoy only the pvp portion of the game and do everything else just to keep up with the pvp. But you spent your money on a hauler. You clearly dont enjoy the pvp, you dont like the mining, you dont like npc hunting. Whats left? The hauling maybe? Or just trade?
The day the game is "work" for me in any sence is the day I leave. I work enough in real life by god I ain't gonna do it in a game.
Kentucky where the goats roam and the rednecks run free |
Verus Potestas
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.24 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Allan Robertson
And to any pirates out there, don't give me any of that "but I'm a saint in RL" crap, I've been on a TS with a bunch of -10 pirates, and I know what they are like.
And I've been on TS with a lot of carebears who have been total ****s. I've flown with and blown up people from the whole spectrum of Eve's playerbase, and I've seen turds and gems in every group.
I'm -10 myself, and I love every minute of it. I'm no saint in real life; I'm not Mother Teresa, but I'm not Charles Whitman either. I'm just a normal guy, like pretty much everyone else who plays.
Does my decision to shoot people in a computer game reflect on my real life personality? Buggered if I know, but given the people I've seen pirating, and the people I've seen carebearing, if there's a link, I'm yet to see it.
If you've seen a bunch of -10s acting like asses, and a bunch of carebears discussing how they saved the orphans from loneliness at Christmas, I'm glad that you've seen the second set. But you've been lucky with your choice of carebears, and seriously unlucky with your choice of pirates.
Also, if you seriously believe that every pirate out there is a snotty teenager, you have so much to learn that I honestly don't know where to start. Starting by assuming that all teenagers act like asses and that adults don't was a mistake, to begin with.
And next time the OP wants to accuse people of acting like kids, it'd be wise not to throw his toys out of the pram.
(for context, I'm a pirate, and I'm 18)
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing.
RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.12.24 14:07:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Captain Havoc
Ok now this might sound weird to you since i haven't heard of an actual confirmed case of hacking or cheating in eve yet, but i do believe i just expierenced one, i was fly with my alt in a Occator with all T2 expanders (2 in the hold to accomodate for some stabs) and a Estamel Modified Cloak on board, rather pricey, i warped to the Konora gate and saw a pirate in a Typhoon sitting there, since i didn't really want him to follow me through into the low sec i thought i'd sit and wait, hopefully he'd get bored at staring at me and fire a shot then i could jump through without him following me, but no, i landed about 2-3k's from him when i came out of warp at the gate, he didn't even lock me, he did however ram me, he went from a complete stand still to ramming my Occator out to 1.7k/s, so he accelerated enough to do that within 2-3k's? i don't think that's right, can anyone think of any module (even the newly changed inertial damps) that could afford a BS that kind of acceleration? i don't think so, but anyways, after he rammed me out from the gate i realise i wasn't locked, so i hit the cloak, i cloaked, he swung back into ram me againabout 2 seconds later barely missing me and decloaking me, he didn't have enough point for a scram but he continued to ram me, my Occator was staying at about 1k/s due to this ramming and being pushed all over the place, no chance to align to warp out, he popped me finally, 200 or so mil down the drain, question is how the hell did a BS get that much acceleration in such a short distance, then continue to be all over me more than a inty would, i think there's some cheating going on here, something isn't right and i sure hope CCP finds out what it is, if it is cheating, i hope that he is permabanned, if it turns out to be all within the standard modules of the game, then damn, i'm going to get me one, the lameness never ceases, ramming to stop people from warping, i guess that's why pirates are pirates, they don't mind being lame.
Sounds like you encountered a Ramphoon. Lows full of a mix of nanos & i-stabs, high end MWD, good nave skills and snake implants to taste.
Ramming people out of alignment or out of dock / jump range is a perfectly valid tactic. Personally when I'm hauling I use a blockade runner with ECM and an MWD of my own to get out of such situations.
Sorry for your loss but you put 200mil worth of eggs in one basket then tried to play chicken with a pirate on a gate. It's not lame, he just bested you. Suck it up, learn from it and move on.
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Coordination Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.12.24 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stormer
Originally by: Captain Havoc
Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day..
Suck to be you. How about You stop yelling HAX!!!!!111!!, get off your carebear ass, and go find him with a couple of mates and KILL HIM?
yeah and a nanophoon is, even if its one of my favourite ships, one of the easiest to kill, all you need is a web since the damn thing have a poor dps and with only a possible DC as tank its a dead fish if caught in a net
all I see is a ******* whiner that lost a ship due to poor knowledge of how this game works
pre kail the phoon was the only really good ship for that kind of bumbing but the changes that was done to istabs has made lots of other ship able bumb even better then the pre-kali nanophoon. OBS! This is when only taking the bumbing part under consideration, the phoons 4 launcher slots and dronebay still makes it the best ship for the nano approach imho (the domi works ok tho)
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Posted - 2006.12.24 14:12:00 -
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I think if you find yourself stereotyping other players, there's a really good chance that you're taking the game way too seriously.
Maybe a good therapy would be to get out 15 bucks worth of quarters and roll them off your nose one at a time. Let them hit the table once and try to get them into a cup on one bounce. After you get all 60 of them into the cup, evaluate how much "fun" that was compared to EVE...
I think the rest will work itself out.
Originally by: Big Al
Well, if there was a law against stupidity, the server would certainly lag less.
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Scall McLean
Dragons Of Redemption
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.24 14:15:00 -
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Well. Although I can't really sympathise with your loss (I've never been silly enough to fly a hauler through lowsec unescorted), I do know what it's like to lose a few million worth of ISK to a mistake.
That's all you really did, made a mistake. Think about it, he's in a BS, which means his locking speed isn't fast. You could've jumped through and activated your cloak, then just slowly moved away if he decided to jump through. After that it's just a matter of aligning yourself, dropping the cloak and busting into warp.
A 0.0 Gate camper isn't going to bother chasing you through heaps and heaps of gates, expecially in lowsec.
Although, on the other side of the coin. I thought that ramming someone so they couldn't align/keep them away from a gate/station because they didn't have Webs/Scrams/whatever was considered "Griefing"?
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Akane Miyamoto
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.24 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Akane Miyamoto on 24/12/2006 14:28:55
Griefing
Just to make things clear I use the word in this meaning: Griefer is the noun form used to refer to the playing causing grief.
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2006.12.24 14:26:00 -
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Its actually you who is the criminal here. Someone outsmarted you with superior knowledge of game mechanics, and all you can do is to cry Haxploit, and then insult the person behind the keyboard.
First of all, there are still some roleplayers left here.
People who have the mental security to not identify themself with their ingame persona.
Are you one of those guys who assaults the actor who plays [CENSORED, insert random bad guy from history]?
You should be punished for abusing the petition queue. While its true that for 100 fake petitions, some may come through, the same can be done to you easily. It is you who is dragging this game down and making it a lame petition-lawyer fest.
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Gonada
Gallente
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2006.12.24 14:59:00 -
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lol, DEAR OP,
please learn about eve and the various mobs before posting ever again, cause boy oh boy you make yourself look very dumb.
that is a tactic that has been used for ages, and will be continued to be used.
you said it yourself too: you thought you were smarter than a pirate in lowsec,
guess you were wrong, but to whine on the boards, then petition him?
lol, LooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooSER!
ps, merry xmas
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Captain Havoc
Caldari
Galactic Liberation Forces
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Posted - 2006.12.24 15:17:00 -
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Listen here you little ****, in the 2 years i've been playing eve i've been fighting 0.0 wars for 22 months of that accross all the regions of eve, the hauler i lost was on an alt, i have 5 accounts, all of them within 1-2 months of carrier operation, that's what i'm training them up for, so don't presume to call me a carebear, i just killed 3 pirates in my blasterthron, all in drakes all at once, link to comments and kill mail at bottom of post, i have never ever seen a typhoon move that quickly over such a short distance, sure, i've seen them be fast, but not accelerate up to over 1.7k/s in less than 3k's, then follow my Occator as it flew out from the gate attempting to stop and turn around, he followed it and orbitted it faster than any inty i've ever flown even with nano's on an inty, sure he used a unusual setup successfully to get a T2 hauler kill, i still don't believe that killing a hauler requires any skill, more luck to be in the right place at the right time and catch the pilot unawares, if i had been there in a vaga or rax, or any fast ship over the size of cruiser i probably could have done the same thing, but not from so close, 3k is no distance to get up that much momentum, no matter how many nano's you put on it or what MWD you use, it seriously could have out turned an inty easily, i was actually tanking his damage reasonably well and thought i would be able to align and warp out, but his uber-manouverable BATTLESHIP rammed me again, after that yes of course i petitioned it, cause to the best of my knowledge that could not be done, so i thought it was reasonable to petition it.
I don't think he deserved to get that cloak, i don't think he deserved that kill, the kill posted below is a nice clean fair kill, all 3 of them, myself vs 3 experienced pilots in Drakes, i killed all 3 and left with half hull, that is skill, that is a good fight and that is what makes the game fun, hell even the guys i killed were impressed and said it was a great fight, read the comments they put on the killboards, what that pirate did and other pirates do is nothing, it's lame, it's low, preying on the weak and unprepared, eve has changed, more kids play it and all the seriousness has left it, it used to be a big deal to lose a BS when i started the game, now they are throw away disposable ships, it reflects the age group playing this game now and the fact that more and more people are purchasing isk, they no longer need to work for their isk or in turn appreciate anything they buy ingame, like their shiny new BS, when i say that the game is over crowded i am of course refering to 0.0, since i started the game the population of eve has increased about 400% (estimate by a dev i heard not to long ago), you used to be able to find dead end out of the way systems in 0.0 where you could setup a small POS and be left alone for days at a time, now, it seems like every nook and cranny in eve is inhabited by someone, warfare has gone from 2 large fleets meeting to shoot it out (RE: GNW and the fights not long after it) to who has the biggest capital fleet and who can bait people the best, even log on tactics have increased in their use, since there is no real set way to proove they were used...
Anyways, enough of my ranting, anyone who's been doing the alliance life for more than a couple of years i think will agree with me, but i could be wrong, i might just be having a **** day cause of all the stuff i lost and how long i now have to spend to get it back and how much further this pushes me back from getting my 5 carriers and skills.
Take care everyone and enjoy the christmas break, i'm going to put my accounts under suspention with some long skills on, i need a break from eve for a little bit i think...
http://www.piratecoalition.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=596
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2006.12.24 15:19:00 -
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The guy comes up with a different setup that require skill to use and you
a) Whine on the forums
b) Petition him
c) Compare people who defend the pirate to people who would laugh at an RL car accident.
You lack of perspective is laughable.
I wish CCP would ban people for making such blatently stupid petitions, you hold genuine ones back.
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Captain Havoc
Caldari
Galactic Liberation Forces
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Posted - 2006.12.24 15:22:00 -
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You knob,it doesn't require skill to use, i don't call *approach, activate MWD, lock, fire* skill to use fool...
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.24 15:23:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Captain Havoc
...what that pirate did and other pirates do is nothing, it's lame, it's low, preying on the weak and unprepared...
Who was unprepared? You! So, guess who's to blame in this situation? You !
Originally by: Captain Havoc
classic "damn kids!" whine
Mhmm, yes, indeed - just because people figure out how to make something that damn heavy get up to those kinds of speeds in 2-3km, they are instantly lame and don't fight properly.
By the way, you think gate pirating or ganking is lame? Try looking in the mirror while posting a long whine thread about a perfectly legal tactic and think again.
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Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.24 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Havoc
You knob,it doesn't require skill to use, i don't call *approach, activate MWD, lock, fire* skill to use fool...
Doesn't require skill to MWD to 3 drakes and lock and fire then does it?
Think before you flame please, your quite obviously in the wrong here, so quit while your ahead. Flaming is bad, mkay?
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2006.12.24 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Havoc
You knob,it doesn't require skill to use, i don't call *approach, activate MWD, lock, fire* skill to use fool...
And decloaking you? Pure luck I suppose?
Clicking "jump" doesnt take much skill either, it was beyond you though.
BTW, congrats on soloing 3 drakes, although it aint exactly soloing when the sentry guns are dealing out damage too
Quoted for the personal attack too
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Ki An
Gallente
Ghouls
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Posted - 2006.12.24 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Havoc
OMG I'm 1337 an yer not, DAMN KIDZ!!!11one
Seriously, take a break. You need it. Come back when you get some perspective on things.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.24 15:28:00 -
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Inertial damps are pretty Uber now. I wouldn't be surprised if they were responsible.
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Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.12.24 15:35:00 -
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Got my first rokh kill this way. He was waiting for me to agress in my nanophoon, so I bumped him about 30k off the gate. :)
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Captain Havoc
Caldari
Galactic Liberation Forces
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Posted - 2006.12.24 15:38:00 -
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Well good work then, seems i learn something new every day, admitted this was an expensive lesson that severly ****ed me off, but fair enough, it happens, i'll know to be more cautious of typhoons now.
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Taaketa Frist
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.24 15:43:00 -
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You do realise theres a thread posted like this every week? This is nothing new to the Eve forums and they always ended up being locked and the ashes are scattered somewhere Holy.
and IBTL
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eXtas
Kemono.
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Posted - 2006.12.24 16:03:00 -
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3km is more then enough if u klick in space and not use aproch... a bs with nanos/inertas goes up to half speed in like a second and with snakes, inertas/nanos, rigs ,max skills and faction mwd u get speeds over 15km/s so figure out if a hauler goes flying :P tho that bs will get owned by a cruiser if it gets webbed..
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Scall McLean
Dragons Of Redemption
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.24 17:10:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Captain Havoc
in the 2 years i've been playing eve
Originally by: Captain Havoc
Take care everyone and enjoy the christmas break, i'm going to put my accounts under suspention with some long skills on, i need a break from eve for a little bit i think...
Let's examine these two comments shall we?
It's all well and good putting your accounts on suspension. Everyone needs to take a break, however... Don't bother setting a long skill-train. Anyone whose played for longer than 6 months knows to read the patch-notes when they come out.
Including the part that said that any skill training when an account was inactive would stop training.
Then again, what would I know, I've only been playing for a year and a half. Nowhere near your 2 years of experience, so hey... I could be wrong.
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Captain Havoc
Caldari
Galactic Liberation Forces
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Posted - 2006.12.24 17:14:00 -
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Mind pointing this out to me in the patch notes? since i just reactivated 2 of my accounts the other day and they had both finished advanced spaceship command 5 right on schedule after being suspending for almost a month.....
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Nate D
Naughty Ambitious Temptatious Endeavours
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Posted - 2006.12.24 17:27:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Scall McLean
Originally by: Captain Havoc
in the 2 years i've been playing eve
Originally by: Captain Havoc
Take care everyone and enjoy the christmas break, i'm going to put my accounts under suspention with some long skills on, i need a break from eve for a little bit i think...
Let's examine these two comments shall we?
It's all well and good putting your accounts on suspension. Everyone needs to take a break, however... Don't bother setting a long skill-train. Anyone whose played for longer than 6 months knows to read the patch-notes when they come out.
Including the part that said that any skill training when an account was inactive would stop training.
Then again, what would I know, I've only been playing for a year and a half. Nowhere near your 2 years of experience, so hey... I could be wrong.
Long skills still train on deactivated accounts on TQ... the change to that was only applied to Singularity.
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Scall McLean
Dragons Of Redemption
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.24 17:28:00 -
[65]
Actually, I just went back then after posting the thread to grab the patch notes.
Remember kiddies, it's all well and good being a Vet, but don't read patch notes when drunk. Your mind plays tricks on you.
Anything on SiSi stops. Anything on Tranq continues.
My apologies Capt'n.
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Taaketa Frist
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.24 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Scall McLean
Anyone whose played for longer than 6 months knows to read the patch-notes when they come out.
Including the part that said that any skill training when an account was inactive would stop training.
From patchnotes here It says.
Originally by: Patch notes
On the Serenity server, skills no longer train when the owning account is deactivated. Tranquility is not affected by this change.
If only you read the patch notes too hmm?
No but seriously. people lighten up.
Frieghters don't pick up Jetcans they haul stuff. If the try to drop loot the blow the servers up. End of story.
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Marie Sklodowska
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.24 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Taaketa Frist
Originally by: Scall McLean
Anyone whose played for longer than 6 months knows to read the patch-notes when they come out.
Including the part that said that any skill training when an account was inactive would stop training.
From patchnotes here It says.
Originally by: Patch notes
On the Serenity server, skills no longer train when the owning account is deactivated. Tranquility is not affected by this change.
If only you read the patch notes too hmm?
No but seriously. people lighten up.
Frieghters don't pick up Jetcans they haul stuff. If the try to drop loot the blow the servers up. End of story.
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Deus Ex'Machina
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.24 19:41:00 -
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Quote:
A griefer is a kind of troll, though the term is often used as an insult towards PvP gamers in general.
You trolls 
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20th Legion
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Posted - 2006.12.24 20:03:00 -
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Hush havocs no carebear he's a damn fine pilot.
200 million isn't worth getting that worked up for, Back when your net worth was say 800mill losing 200 would be a major blow but...2 years +5 chars + running into me.. A drop in the ocean? Your worth a lot more than what you have in isk.
Battlefield 2 served me well as an eve stress releif regiem I suppose 2142 fill a similar role, shooters in general have the "pick up and play" thing down pat so when you just want to shoot something but can't stand the half hour trip to your PvP rig or the lack of targets in eve. Breaks are good, losing things on christmas is bad.
Anyway enjoy your christmas and say hallo to the rest of GLF for me.
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