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Captain Havoc Caldari Galactic Liberation Forces	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:12:00 - [1] Ok now this might sound weird to you since i haven't heard of an actual confirmed case of hacking or cheating in eve yet, but i do believe i just expierenced one, i was fly with my alt in a Occator with all T2 expanders (2 in the hold to accomodate for some stabs) and a Estamel Modified Cloak on board, rather pricey, i warped to the Konora gate and saw a pirate in a Typhoon sitting there, since i didn't really want him to follow me through into the low sec i thought i'd sit and wait, hopefully he'd get bored at staring at me and fire a shot then i could jump through without him following me, but no, i landed about 2-3k's from him when i came out of warp at the gate, he didn't even lock me, he did however ram me, he went from a complete stand still to ramming my Occator out to 1.7k/s, so he accelerated enough to do that within 2-3k's? i don't think that's right, can anyone think of any module (even the newly changed inertial damps) that could afford a BS that kind of acceleration? i don't think so, but anyways, after he rammed me out from the gate i realise i wasn't locked, so i hit the cloak, i cloaked, he swung back into ram me againabout 2 seconds later barely missing me and decloaking me, he didn't have enough point for a scram but he continued to ram me, my Occator was staying at about 1k/s due to this ramming and being pushed all over the place, no chance to align to warp out, he popped me finally, 200 or so mil down the drain, question is how the hell did a BS get that much acceleration in such a short distance, then continue to be all over me more than a inty would, i think there's some cheating going on here, something isn't right and i sure hope CCP finds out what it is, if it is cheating, i hope that he is permabanned, if it turns out to be all within the standard modules of the game, then damn, i'm going to get me one, the lameness never ceases, ramming to stop people from warping, i guess that's why pirates are pirates, they don't mind being lame. ----------------------------------------------- "Acta non Verba" Forums: http://www.eve-link.com/glf
Sonos SAGD Minmatar Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:15:00 - [2] Edited by: Sonos SAGD on 24/12/2006 11:16:46 probally a gisti a-100 mwd with all nanos probally doesn't even have to be gitsi remeber minnies are build for speed, we have very low mass and our ships can go the fastest even after he speed nerf they did
CaptainSeafort Gallente Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:16:00 - [3] if it really was 1.7km/s from standing in 3km, then id say thats definitely dodgy. no combination of modules, implants and skills i can think of would give that level of acceleration in a BS 0.o "Planets and moons no longer hitch rides on player ships. Their towel privileges have been revoked." HHGG Lives on in EVE!
Spy4Hire	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:17:00 - [4] Edited by: Spy4Hire on 24/12/2006 11:18:24 LOL Not an exploit or a hack... it's called just what you said: Ramming. A typhoon is inherantly fast and nimble for a BS, and when you load the lows with nanofibers it can really zip. And all it needs is about 2km to be at a speed quite easily capable of bumping something as light as a hauler several kilometers with one hit. Because you sat still he was freely able to take aim. If you want to avoid that, set your ship to orbit the gate at 500 meters and the typhoon won't have the agility to hit you easily... though a good cruiser might. So, watch out, and next time just hit the gate and keep on running. Though the gate guns should have absoltuely raped a nanophoon when it opened fire... even in 0.1 because it has almost no resistances.
CaptainSeafort Gallente Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:25:00 - [5] ive just redone the sums. me made a teensy maths error xD assuming constant acceleration (i know its not in eve =P) s 3km t - u 0km/s v 1.7km/s a ?km/s/s v^2=u^2 + 2as 2.89=6a a= 481m/s^2 thats just about attainable in a BS, and as acceleration in eve is non linear, the actual acceleration for this frame would likely be more extreme. "Planets and moons no longer hitch rides on player ships. Their towel privileges have been revoked." HHGG Lives on in EVE!
Roy Batty68	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:31:00 - [6] It seems like alot of EVE is gravitating towards - grind skill X for whatever amount of time - click a button to apply skill X Given that, I'd hardly label something that actually takes some player know how to use as "lame". Sure, if it was just another skill, Ramming Level 5, grind that out and get in a fast BS and woohoo!! Teh winzor! Yeah, that'd be lame. But to actually train up the appropriate skills, put a ship together to accomodate that style of play, and then use it successfully? Pretty darn cool imo. Originally by: Big Al Well, if there was a law against stupidity, the server would certainly lag less.
Captain Havoc Caldari Galactic Liberation Forces	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:58:00 - [7] Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day.. ----------------------------------------------- "Acta non Verba" Forums: http://www.eve-link.com/glf
Stroke	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:01:00 - [8] Originally by: Captain Havoc Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day.. /violin
Tara'Quoya Rax Black-Sun	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:04:00 - [9] Don't forget to factor in potential rigs too
Captain Havoc Caldari Galactic Liberation Forces	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:05:00 - [10] Originally by: Stroke Originally by: Captain Havoc Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day.. /violin See the *****s that are out there, this is the kind of person who walks past a car accident where someones died and laughs. ----------------------------------------------- "Acta non Verba" Forums: http://www.eve-link.com/glf
Cor'len Inquest	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:13:00 - [11] Ah, stop feeling so sorry for yeself. As for the acceleration, entirely possible. And how'd it go from being rammed in hisec (as you make it seem like, with the blabber about a lowsec gate) to dying? /violin, indeed. Even /cello. ;) -Cor Not-so-innocent mass-murderer of braincells.
Stroke	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:15:00 - [12] Originally by: Captain Havoc Originally by: Stroke Originally by: Captain Havoc Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day.. /violin See the *****s that are out there, this is the kind of person who walks past a car accident where someones died and laughs. Are you actually trying to compare a virtual loss in a game, a game that encourages building and destruction, with a real accident where a human being is injured? Seriously, take a deep breath and rethink it.
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:22:00 - [13] Originally by: Captain Havoc Originally by: Stroke Originally by: Captain Havoc Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day.. /violin See the *****s that are out there, this is the kind of person who walks past a car accident where someones died and laughs. Take a step back, and look at what he did, and look at what you're doing. You flew an undefended hauler around low sec, and got yourself trashed by a player who knew what he was doing and acted fast, while clearly understanding the way the game works much more than you. Do you really think he was getting off on you being unhappy? He got an officer fitted hauler kill on christmas Eve, complete with t2 expanders. You just made his christmas, and all you can think about is getting him banned? WHAT KIND OF JOY HATING FACIST ARE YOU? If there was a fire in an orphanage on Christmas day, I bet you'd laugh! (please note, the above post may contain traces of sarcasm) Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Lucifer Fellblade Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:22:00 - [14] I'm pretty sure it's easily possible, only the other day I saw a phoon go from 15km from the gate to about 300km off in about 30 seconds, doing something like 8.5km/s. CALL THE NERFWAGON! But seriously, that's rediculous. ------
Tachy	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:23:00 - [15] Drop the nanofiers, put in inertia stabilizers. That way you get the most out of the MWD. --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Timmy Bettenson Caldari Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:24:00 - [16] i ram in my interceptor to knock stabbed indy's out of alingment or off gates, but i haven't heard of a battleship that can do it lol.
Roy Batty68	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:31:00 - [17] I copied this quote from the bio of a character named Sienna. Sienna was apparently quoting Rudyard Kipling, so I'm not too awfully worried about losing cool points for copying someone else's bio. Anyway, I keep it in my bio now to remind me what EVE should be should I get too freaked out about something. "If you can make one heap of all your winnings, And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings, And never breathe a word about your loss..." --Rudyard Kipling I think it's a pretty fitting sentiment for EVE. Maybe you should put it in your bio. Maybe it'll catch on. Originally by: Big Al Well, if there was a law against stupidity, the server would certainly lag less.
Captain Havoc Caldari Galactic Liberation Forces	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:37:00 - [18] Originally by: Cor'len Ah, stop feeling so sorry for yeself. As for the acceleration, entirely possible. And how'd it go from being rammed in hisec (as you make it seem like, with the blabber about a lowsec gate) to dying? /violin, indeed. Even /cello. ;) I was going from N-RAEL out to Konora, i didn't want him following me through, we'll see what the petition comes up with about his uberramming, sure i might have made his Christmas but i've just lost 200mil of stuff i've worked for, and i do mean worked for, game or not sitting in a belt mining and/or NPCing is work, i don't enjoy it one bit, so i had to work to get that stuff and some ***** takes that away, and on christmas eve of all days!!! i've had just about enough this game, it's becoming over crowded and lame, warfare is all gank now and no fun, to many kids play and all the seriousness has left the game. ----------------------------------------------- "Acta non Verba" Forums: http://www.eve-link.com/glf
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:49:00 - [19] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 24/12/2006 12:53:10 Originally by: Captain Havoc Originally by: Stroke Originally by: Captain Havoc Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day.. /violin See the ***s that are out there, this is the kind of person who walks past a car accident where someones died and laughs. First of all this is a game which promotes the big bangs. Yes, you lost a valuable ship. Im sorry for that, but to start calling people who plays the game for people who smash you ingame for predators in real life is just to take it a bit too far. After all this is a PvP game!!! For example. I was at this years fanfest on Iceland where I met Istvaan Shogutsu. That man have got a pretty vile reputation. But in real life he is a great guy I had a small conversation with. The morale in the story? NEVER MIX REAL LIFE AND GAME LIFE! I have lost valable ships too. My last ship was a T2 fitted Deimos I lost. That loss sent like 360 million isk straight into the sink! Did I complain about the bastards who podded me on the forums? Heck NO! I did a lot of swearing to myself tho. But then, looking back on it, I had only myself to blame. NEVER UNDERESTIMATE YOUR ENEMY! And never blame your enemies for your own mistakes!! EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER**
Ki An Gallente Ghouls	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:56:00 - [20] Originally by: Captain Havoc Whine whine whine Dude, you've got noone to blame but yourself. You are NOT untouchable in a hauler, even an elite one. You are NOT untouchable on Christmas Eve. If you choose to play EVE on Christmas, expect to get killed on Christmas. Also, this is one of those kills that took actual player skills. That guy deserved his killed. You're just a whiney baby who got his toy taken away. Toughen up, ffs! Normally don't like to kick a man when he's down, but man are you asking for it. /Ki
Major Stormer Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:58:00 - [21] Originally by: Captain Havoc Well it still really really sucks to lose 200mil+ of stuff on christmas night, but then again some people get off on ruining other people's day.. Suck to be you. How about You stop yelling HAX!!!!!111!!, get off your carebear ass, and go find him with a couple of mates and KILL HIM?
Robke	Posted - 2006.12.24 13:12:00 - [22] Edited by: Robke on 24/12/2006 13:12:15 Petitions should cost isk that gets refunded only when the petition is valid. Petitions like yours are just clogging up the petition-pipes for valid ones to be processed.
Mysterlee Gallente 5punkorp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.24 13:12:00 - [23] It was your own fault tbh, you were in 0.0 on a gate into low sec, he was in a nanophoon with no tank, if you jumped he wouldnt be able to kill you because he cant tank the low sec sentries in a nanophoon
Araxmas The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2006.12.24 13:17:00 - [24] Originally by: Captain Havoc so i had to work to get that stuff and some *** takes that away, and on christmas eve of all days! 1, No a * didn't take it away just a * thought his t2 hauler was invincible Originally by:** Captain Havoc i've had just about enough this game, it's becoming over crowded and lame 2, overcrowded and lame? You got killed by one guy in a bs how is that because of overcrowding Originally by: Captain Havoc warfare is all gank now and no fun 3, Warfare is all gank? You got solo killed by a guy who knew more than you thats not a gank. Originally by: Captain Havoc to many kids play and all the seriousness has left the game. 4, Yes you are a kid and seeing as how you are trashing the game because you died suggests that YOU take things too seriously. --------
Lucifer Fellblade Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.24 13:20:00 - [25] Any sensible person would go round N-Rael anyway, everybody knows its pretty much a deathtrap, it was most likely the very same phoon I was talking about, since I was near there at the time. ------
Phreyd	Posted - 2006.12.24 13:25:00 - [26] You so have to be kidding . You got caught and popped fair and square. Oh and it's a a GAME !! Really be serious !!!! You must be joking even now. Dude if it irks you that much time for a new game, for you, Might I suggest the Carebears Unleashed?? . When i need to haul stuff its called a warship full tank and weapons. I have saved my own butt that way more then once also ummm waiting for him at the gate was mistake 2 um pirate at gate and you want to wait him out ? Grab a safe spot and get in it warp away at first then think and plan. But Other wise lighten up ohhh and if this annoys you that much then Quit this is not the game for you and if you do Can I Have Your Stuff????
NotAHaulerAlt	Posted - 2006.12.24 13:26:00 - [27] Edited by: NotAHaulerAlt on 24/12/2006 13:25:53 Crap, wrong char
Akane Miyamoto Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.24 13:26:00 - [28] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker NEVER MIX REAL LIFE AND GAME LIFE! NEVER UNDERESTIMATE YOUR ENEMY! And never blame your enemies for your own mistakes!! Amen. --------------------------------------------------
c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A	Posted - 2006.12.24 13:27:00 - [29] my phoon goes 5,800 m/s in an all t1 setup. I love to hunt down mediocre fitted ceptors with it. Any questions? :) Regards P.S.: It's pretty easy nowadays to bring BS at that kind of speed and it really makes the Eve combat fast paced. Love it. x x x x x x x x x x x x x x Life's a waste of time ...
Kaar Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.24 13:28:00 - [30] Originally by: Captain Havoc i warped to the Konora gate and saw a pirate in a Typhoon sitting there, since i didn't really want him to follow me through into the low sec i thought i'd sit and wait You sat in n-rael(0.0) rather than jumping through to konora(0.4?) because you thought a phoon would shoot and kill your T2 hauler in lowsec? You only have yourself to blame. GG nanophoon pilot! --- ---

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