Stop aggression in hisec completely.....

And then watch the game die.

I watched Ultima Online go this route.

And it died.

Pirates Of The Burning Seas had a great way of handling it..........and I watched the devs kill their own game, due primarily to loudmouthed idiots like you.

And now its dead.

Go play Star Trek Online if you want a game like that., it seems more your speed.

And hey. It's free.

Evidence has recently been discovered on sisi that hyperdunking (previously validated as 'OK' by CCP) may be killed in a future release with a stealth mechanics nerf.

Da faq?

Reddit.

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Because high sec really needs more nerfs. :(

There have been examples of this before. I can't really think of one off the top of my head, but there have been situations where x was whined about endlessly, x was confirmed to not be an exploit several times, and then x was suddenly removed from the game by technical fiat.

Lol. High sec being "emergent game play." I haven't laughed so hard all week, so thanks for that :)

In my opinion, just get rid of high sec all together. Leave a few starter systems (maybe starter constellations where you're kicked out after 2 weeks) and watch the rage from CODE and other pvp washouts roll in. You guys simply got tired of someone firing back so you decided to harass the new players. You're literally the cancer killing this game.

I wholly support CCP doing whatever it can to nerf your "emergent gameplay" and this change in general. Maybe at some point you'll slither out of your neckbeard nests and go do something that takes some cognitive thought.

P.S. - inb4 someone calls me an angry carebear who probably got ganked. More like low sec pvp'er for most of 3 years who did the killing. But if you want to spout lies and ignore reality then to be honest, I can't really expect much else from you.

Lol. High sec being "emergent game play." I haven't laughed so hard all week, so thanks for that :)

In my opinion, just get rid of high sec all together. Leave a few starter systems (maybe starter constellations where you're kicked out after 2 weeks) and watch the rage from CODE and other pvp washouts roll in. You guys simply got tired of someone firing back so you decided to harass the new players. You're literally the cancer killing this game.

I wholly support CCP doing whatever it can to nerf your "emergent gameplay" and this change in general. Maybe at some point you'll slither out of your neckbeard nests and go do something that takes some cognitive thought.

P.S. - inb4 someone calls me an angry carebear who probably got ganked. More like low sec pvp'er for most of 3 years who did the killing. But if you want to spout lies and ignore reality then to be honest, I can't really expect much else from you.

You make the assumption that I am some sort of carebear.

The only reason people PVP in hisec is because they want to shoot things that dont shoot back.

And here I thought it was because of bubbles, ceptors, bombers, and supercaps.

Hisec is the hardest area to conduct combat in, due to the restrictions. Low and null are easy mode in comparison.

Any moron like you can be an F1 monkey. Getting a blinged out mission bear in a Golem to aggress your assault frigate actually takes skill.

And here I thought it was because of bubbles, ceptors, bombers, and supercaps.

Hisec is the hardest area to conduct combat in, due to the restrictions. Low and null are easy mode in comparison.

Any moron like you can be an F1 monkey. Getting a blinged out mission bear in a Golem to aggress your assault frigate actually takes skill.

MMORPG...... what does it stand for? Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game. Yet solo freighter pilots can cry enough on the forums, reddit, petitions and get a play style banned. If they had 1 friend who brought reps, hyper dunking would not work.

LOGIC

Doesn't even need to be a friend nor even another account. Just log your freighter pilot, log a spare character with a day's training into logi and have him rep the freighter.

The only reason people PVP in hisec is because they want to shoot things that dont shoot back.

Hyperdunking is a solo activity. So your argument is invalid.

Tell me more about how one player on one account can fly a gank ship, bump ship and bowhead at once.

Please if it's not hisec, tell me where I can find elite pvp.

I'm not going to defend hyper dunking as some great form of pvp, it's not. It's just an advanced form of ganking that was easily done with two people, one if the freighter pilot decided to log out during the dunk and stay logged. It was a great way to make tons of isk if you were patient and lucky. It is extremely easy to disrupt, unlike traditional ganking in which a large fleet drops a freighter and is largely unstoppable. You look at thrasher ganking, or vexor ganking, where someone will just blow away a feeble target before they can even respond, it's content, but not one the other player can really react and engage with the other player. At least with hyper dunking really cool things could actually happen.

I'll provide one example:

Two friends and I find a freighter leaving Jita with multiple plastic wraps, and pursue his freighter several jumps and bump him off a a gate. Before we get him off grid, some of his friends show up in frigates and start repping him to show us there's little hope of us bomber dunking. We keep him bumped while contacting friends to put together a fleet to help kill this guy. Shortly after we see a local spike and 20 catalysts land on grid. We got all excited and then they started shooting my bump Mach. They weren't ours. The freighter pilot had gotten a whole FW corp to come and gank us! They did a second pass and we messed up our bump sending the guy into warp. My friend managed to get to the station before the freighter and hero bump the freighter off the docking ring... And then he safe logged because in all the madness we forgot to lock him. The FW guys rejoiced in local and we congratulated them somewhat saltily before returning to Jita.

Sure, most dunks don't go like that, most unsuccessful dunks that I experienced were from anti-gankers that showed up in an osprey and cost us a few hundred mil in bombers or the wreck would get popped. Or I let them get away with bad bumps... >.>

I'll miss it, and regret not doing it more. I'm sure this will just lead to more gank fleets in the major pipes, which is good though

The only thing this is going to achieve is make stealth bomber gank fleets in 1.0 - 0.8 a thing for me. I am starting (4) new bomber characters in the morning on existing accounts. The funny thing is that we will continue to adapt and learn new ways to use CCPs nerfs against them. I wonder if CCP really even has a vision for this game.

With 3 accounts and 3 monitors

We gave it a few shots down near Hek a couple of months back.

It's more difficult than I had anticipated, as you say Faylee, we found 2-3 people is ideal.

We gave it a few shots down near Hek a couple of months back.

It's more difficult than I had anticipated, as you say Faylee, we found 2-3 people is ideal.

I'm curious why they want to remove it... Hoping to hear reasoning from CCP on the subject.

This.

Seeing as hyperdunking can be hard countered so easily, it's obviously not a balance concern. So what exactly has necessitated this change?