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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 08:35:07
Christmas Day, Bob HQ,
shakaZ XIV asks: "Why wouldn't they go for us? :P
Seriously though... /me looks in crystal ball (or was it tinfoil ball ;p), and sees: AAA probably wanna help RA wipe LV off ze map, then nap D2 (they have done this already, afaik?), after which AAA + goons + RA + D2 + all the other bob haters all gang up on us :D muhaha!
Or not... but you never know! ;p
/me starts mass producing tin-foil
Either way, totally lame from AXE that they just give up. :lol: gg to AAA tbh.."
DigitalCommunist replied: "We also have D2 going to war with us soon (the full extent of which is not clear), with the Fountain flamers and AAA making a move on us at the same time. Since AXE pulled out relatively quick, this might be before we can take all stations and secure them. Translating to capital gangbang in three different regions. If they get their timing right, we're finally gonna have us a good ole challenge on our hands :P
This should make you both horny and worried at the same time, but never afraid. Even if we lose stations or entire regions, its the long run that counts. And of those 3, only AAA would have the willpower to keep it up for half a year.
Oh and D2 finished an Erebus this morning."
Let's rewind a little bit...
D2 bought an erubus BPO around the 6th of November. At the time Bob had its hands full and was considering taking out D2 capital ship array around the 11th of December with MC and Fix... maybe this is another indication of Bob being overstretched.
At the time Sir Molle said: "Titan needs popped, bring MC and FIX." but there were still concerns of ASCN getting back on its feet... Krystal suggested"
let D2 have their titan and grow some balls, we'll kill it eventually is my opinion."
To this, Rift Scorn replied : "Couldn't state my feelings better on the subject. Make no mistake D2 will not take it lightly if we do this. I'm all for ruining D2's ****, but squish ASCN first then smash D2.
Seeing as they've NAP'd everything that moved in the North Rolling Eyes and they've had a break from POS wars there's nothing to stop them hitting us hard when we got the remnants of ASCN that could get organized and try a re-take."
DB Preacher reminded everyone that the original plan was:[list=1][*]attack ascn, **** them off, take out capital fleet.[*]attack d2-, **** them off, take out capital fleet.[*]Spend next year in delve with all of eve attacking us.[/list]Sir Molle rectified dbp's post saying that it was supposed to be D2 first.dbp posted an old convo...
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Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare...
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:31:00 -
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[...]
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<Chowdown> Yo
<dbp> hello mr chow
<Chowdown> How are you?
<dbp> aye not bad, just back from physio... I broke both bones in my legs 2.5 weeks ago
<dbp> so sat on my ass most of the day
<dbp> how about you?
<Chowdown> Yeah not to bad
<Chowdown> finally got a proper internet connection after a year
<Chowdown> so pretty chuffed
<dbp> sheesh, that must have been a nightmare Very Happy
<Chowdown> Yup stealing wireless is OK
<Chowdown> but not the most reliable on dread ops Razz
<Chowdown> anyway the reason I have hunted you down
<Chowdown> and I have chatted to thol about it a bit
<Chowdown> we believe d2 may be building RA a titan
<Chowdown> needless to say
<Chowdown> that ****s us off a fair bit
<dbp> why build ra a titan?
<dbp> why not build it for themselves?
<Chowdown> Cause they don't like us
<dbp> btw, we know the exact location of the titan
<dbp> and when it is due out
<Chowdown> Well as I understand they have an erebus in production for themselves
<dbp> that's the one we know about
<Chowdown> yup potentially they have a second
<Chowdown> as I understand
<dbp> they have 2 motherships
<Chowdown> you guys will be finishing off ASCN fairly soon
<dbp> not seen anything that suggests another titan
<Chowdown> and after we have made are token effort defending ASCN in there death throws
<dbp> we won't actually, we've taken paragon soul but feth will be another 2 or 3 months
<Chowdown> hmm
<Chowdown> I don't know man
<Chowdown> there leadership is in a **** state
<Chowdown> lots of in fighting
<dbp> have you seen how many outposts they have :p
<dbp> the pure logistics of killing it all is going to take a while
<dbp> they broke badly in paragon soul a couple of weeks ago
<Chowdown> I think they might put there hands up
<Chowdown> or certain factions of them
<dbp> but are regrouping now in feth
<Chowdown> AXE will be hard work
<dbp> we're not interesting in axe tbh
<Chowdown> but Molle has good relations with SR as I understand
<dbp> we did have
<Chowdown> ahh well there you go Razz
<dbp> but he's ****ed at us
<dbp> coz we killed cyvok
<Chowdown> he is a bit petulant to be honest
<dbp> or are killing
<dbp> they are ****** with AAA anyay
<dbp> I doubt they'll manage to hold that region with aaa there
<dbp> which has been great for us albiet I hate aaa with a passion Razz
<Chowdown> yup
<Chowdown> well 3 factions are well up there on my hate list
<Chowdown> RA/Goon, D2 and aaa
<Chowdown> to be honest I am not to fussed about anyone else
<Chowdown> d2 will be growing soft tho
<Chowdown> they have been pretty much left alone for some time now
<dbp> in the summer, we looked at who to hit
<dbp> we decided D2 > ASCN
<dbp> err
<dbp> D2 THEN ascn i mean
<Chowdown> but ASCN forced the issue?
<dbp> however, when we were actually ready to go to war, we found that d2 were ****** up
<dbp> so we hit ascn first
<dbp> d2 have regrouped and are looking stronger
<dbp> so we'll batter them after ascn is finished
<dbp> ra/goons will get some too
<Chowdown> Well wuth the advent of Kali, we are excited about in roads we can make on RA
<Chowdown> goons are losing the will to fight
<dbp> without bull****, how is it going against ra/goons?
<Chowdown> well
<Chowdown> no bull**** and between us
<dbp> same problems as ever? RA just impossible to finish off?
<Chowdown> V are a pile of dog turd
<dbp> fair
<Chowdown> and are losing ground to RA through the inability to manage POS
<Chowdown> so I sat down with there managment the other day
<Chowdown> and I think that will be sorted
<Chowdown> the advent of our titans
<Chowdown> will make it very ahrd for RA/Goon to be effective
<Chowdown> as they will not be able to lock down any systems
<dbp> the titan is lovely btw, the jump bridge instantly bypasses that ******* pish traffic control
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Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare...
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |
Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:31:00 -
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Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 08:32:59
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<Chowdown> yup very excited about that factor
<dbp> it sounds like you are still caught in a bit of a mincer of a war
<Chowdown> and as you know, it is easy to defend a death star against 200 when you have 20 in system
<Chowdown> to be honest
<dbp> aye
<Chowdown> I will attempt to save V's space
<Chowdown> V, KOS etc
<Chowdown> CHIMP
<Chowdown> I wanted them to suceed, but in the worst case scenario
<Chowdown> they were just a meatshield
<Chowdown> for us to properly defend and gain enough regions
<Chowdown> that is in plac enow
<dbp> fair
<dbp> you going to keep omist and tenerifis?
<dbp> couple of my dudes keep ******* off into omist annoyingly
<dbp> but then end up getting camped down for hours on end
<Chowdown> yup the alliance we have down there is alright
<Chowdown> We see it as our home now
<dbp> tbh, it's the bext protected industrial space we've seen :p
<Chowdown> well my home well always be curse Smile
<dbp> bext&
<dbp> **** my spelling :X
<Chowdown> You should see what we have sitting in the stations Razz
<dbp> hehe
<Chowdown> my too mate dyslopixs
<dbp> so what are you proposing with regards d2?
<Chowdown> mine*
<Chowdown> well we should of done it before they made the changes
<Chowdown> with regards to reinforced
<Chowdown> but maybe a joint venture we can site the reason
<Chowdown> RA titan in production yada yada
<dbp> we would need to find the actual titan site
<dbp> and like i say, we haven't seen it
<Chowdown> I have 5 people working on that atm
<dbp> only the 2 moships and titan
<dbp> for d2
<dbp> if you can find it in the next two weeks
<dbp> I'm pretty sure we could come to some arrengement with regards a joint venture to kill the erebus AND the ra titan
<Chowdown> yup
<Chowdown> if the ra titan exist
<Chowdown> exists
<Chowdown> but
<Chowdown> to be honest
<dbp> but it would have to happen in the first week of december really
<Chowdown> D2 smacked us loads with regards to losing POS warfare with RA
<Chowdown> without understanding it
<Chowdown> then they got owned
<Chowdown> and they shut up
<Chowdown> well that still stings me
<Chowdown> I would be happy to take out there Erebus
<dbp> cool
<Chowdown> as long as things looked OK down south
<dbp> we could take a week out without a problem
<Chowdown> Well it is not so easy for us
<Chowdown> unrelenting is the term
<Chowdown> But maybe we could bring 30 dreads and a titan up
<Chowdown> as we have little use for the dreads atm
<Chowdown> I have employed MC to hit RA in the complexes
<dbp> ok, let me break it down with the other dudes
<Chowdown> or hopefully will soon
<dbp> but basically, it's up to you to find the titan
<Chowdown> which should hopefully take up a lot of there resource
<Chowdown> yup
<Chowdown> regardless of that tian
<Chowdown> if it exists
<Chowdown> wwe are interested in busting the erebus
<dbp> ok, I'll get back to you with our thoughts later this week
<Chowdown> cya dude
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:33:00 -
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Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 08:37:14
Blacklight, bob's wannabe spymaster, suggested: "Would be a good general overall strategy to work unofficially with LV to clean all the ****ers out of the south and smack D2 about i.e. we take care of ASCN whilst LV concentrate on reds, we both smack D2's titan and then we both smack both RA/Goons (if they are still going) and then AAA."
At the time D2 was already preparing for Bob's strike... "As far as we know BoB will strike the D2 Titan POS together with FIX and MC, to make sure that we wont finish building the ship by 04.12.06
D2 will do anythin to defend the Titan, probably nap with ragoon if necessary"
Around November 25th, there was a whole discussion as why LV doesn't want to help bob: "After thinking on it more. It really does stink. I would dearly love to kill that titan I mean its the whole BoB vs G thing again really but this benefits LV not us. If they want it dead they come with. We're ready to leave our regions undefended to go and do a job that gives them more than it does us while they sit on their arse. The whole thing reeks of bull**** at this stage and makes me feel that if we go we're gonna come back to find LV, ASCN and half the north squatting in delve"
Alasse said: "I agree completely with Dian (and my god does it hurt Neutral).
Us, MC & FIX all on the other side of the galaxy would be a wet dream for anyone interested in hitting us and there'd be absolutely **** all we could do about it for days.
Not to mention the fact we'd lose most of our capital fleet in the process, we'd be in a very, very sticky situation if LV & ASCN (maybe D2?) were to roll in to our space at any point within weeks after the fact."
Valora: "We cant stop people from getting titans forever, they will get them sooner or later whether we like it or not. Maybe we should focus on making ourselves stronger, rather than trying to weaken 1 opponent which isnt going to directly benefit us.
Sure, its theoretically easier to kill a titan in the POS on paper, but lets say we reversed the situation and we had 1week of advance knowledge that 50 dreads were going to hit one of our pos... im pretty sure we wouldnt have much trouble formulating a plan that would allow us to *****that dread fleet...."
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Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare...
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari
Two Brothers Mining Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:40:00 -
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"The posting of chatlogs/private conversations from another third party forum on the EVE-Online Forums is not permitted. In the past we have observed that posting such material has led to excessive amounts of flaming/trolling.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you see a post/thread/signature which you believe to be against the rules.
Kind regards,
<high-ranking ISD>"
Mods, will you FINALLY start enforcing this?
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
"The posting of chatlogs/private conversations from another third party forum on the EVE-Online Forums is not permitted. In the past we have observed that posting such material has led to excessive amounts of flaming/trolling.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you see a post/thread/signature which you believe to be against the rules.
Kind regards,
<high-ranking ISD>"
I'll just start my own forum if I am censored.
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Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare...
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |
RichThugster
Gallente
Revelations Inc.
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:45:00 -
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whether its permitted or not, very nice read.
the reason its not permitted is ASCN cry babies
REVELATIONS RECRUITING NOW |
Queeria
Galactic Bull-dike Society II
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:45:00 -
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Edited by: *****ia on 25/12/2006 08:45:37
link to said forum then?
Quality posts if this hasn't all been fabricated and is legit.
Interest +1
Oh, and saved to desktop.
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari
Two Brothers Mining Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: RichThugster
whether its permitted or not, very nice read.
the reason its not permitted is ASCN cry babies
Here, have a cookie, big hero.
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Ackath
Minmatar
Delta team
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:51:00 -
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LOL
Where do you get all this stuff?
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
"The posting of chatlogs/private conversations from another third party forum on the EVE-Online Forums is not permitted. In the past we have observed that posting such material has led to excessive amounts of flaming/trolling.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you see a post/thread/signature which you believe to be against the rules.
Kind regards,
<high-ranking ISD>"
I'll just start my own forum if I am censored.
go for it. with info out in the open like that, it'll be much easier to plug the leak.
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:56:00 -
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Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 08:56:16
Originally by: *****ia
Edited by: *****ia on 25/12/2006 08:45:37
link to said forum then?
Quality posts if this hasn't all been fabricated and is legit.
Interest +1
Oh, and saved to desktop.
Just in case: "http://kugutsumen.blogspot.com"
Also if you like my eve-o post, don't forget to donate some ISK. Intelligence and infiltration work, browsing thru enemy forums takes a lot of time.
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Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare...
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |
Thor Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:58:00 -
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All that really tells me is that BoB is smart enough to know they can't trust anyone to do anything that isn't in their own (not BoB's) best interest, but I already knew that.
Other parts of it are interesting, though not really a surprise.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One."
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Zeknichov
Amarr
Black Avatar
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:10:00 -
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All this MC and FIX talk I say we just combine alliances and form McFIX. Anyways can I get a summary that's far too much reading for 2:00am.
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charlie delta
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Cry..
Um, WTF.. u are a member of ASCN, with all the public posting of ur forums, eve-mail, jesus even TS recordings.. you are now wanting this thread silenced because it is stuff from BOB's internal world??!!
sentinel eeex = bob alt spy ftw?! 
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Emsigma
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kugutsumen
Also if you like my eve-o post, don't forget to donate some ISK. Intelligence and infiltration work, browsing thru enemy forums takes a lot of time.
Now, at least you should give credits where credit is due :)
That is not intel that you have gathered personally, is it?
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SaorAlba
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:39:00 -
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Keep it coming m8. Finally after months of Bob post something actually worth reading. Happy christmas to ya all folks. I am off to the mining grounds. Them titan cue's are killing me!
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Emsigma
Originally by: Kugutsumen
Also if you like my eve-o post, don't forget to donate some ISK. Intelligence and infiltration work, browsing thru enemy forums takes a lot of time.
Now, at least you should give credits where credit is due :)
That is not intel that you have gathered personally, is it?
To who?
I run one of the largest intelligence agency in EVE, we have compromised over twenty alliances. I think my only rival would be The Mittani and his GIA.
Please don't mention Blacklight or Istvann; they are wannabes compared to me: presomptious, overconfident, arrogant, insolent...
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Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare...
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Dianabolic
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: Emsigma
Originally by: Kugutsumen
Also if you like my eve-o post, don't forget to donate some ISK. Intelligence and infiltration work, browsing thru enemy forums takes a lot of time.
Now, at least you should give credits where credit is due :)
That is not intel that you have gathered personally, is it?
To who?
I run one of the largest intelligence agency in EVE, we have compromised over twenty alliances. I think my only rival would be The Mittani and his GIA.
Please don't mention Blacklight or Istvann; they are wannabes compared to me: presomptious, overconfident, arrogant, insolent...
To say that The Mittanis' intel is up-to-date? LOL. We've seen his intel, it's even more out of date than yours is.
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
To say that The Mittanis' intel is up-to-date? LOL. We've seen his intel, it's even more out of date than yours is.
Dian, did you read the OP? the first two quotes are from today. The rest is just to give a background on why you haven't gone for D2 titan yet.
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Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare...
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:27:00 -
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BEst Tinfoil post in ages. Well written, concise and with chat logged evidence of said accusations...
Chow calling V a bunch of turds, lol, made me smile.
KIA EVE Home
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Dianabolic
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: Dianabolic
To say that The Mittanis' intel is up-to-date? LOL. We've seen his intel, it's even more out of date than yours is.
Dian, did you read the OP? the first two quotes are from today. The rest is just to give a background on why you haven't gone for D2 titan yet.
The first two quotes are from a different forum to your chatlog and not part of any command discussion - try again.
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Armois Delgato
FATAL REVELATIONS
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:28:00 -
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This has to be among the best EVE fanfiction I have ever read.
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Gungankllr
Caldari
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:30:00 -
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While I have an intense dislike for BoB, I also hate people that copy and paste private convos and forum stuff to the Eve forums.
Jaques from ISD ruled that copying out of game stuff to these forums is against the rules, so you can just stop now.
If there's a moderator that didn't get the memo I'd be happy to forward the mail to you I have.
Hidden in this signature is a secret message.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr
While I have an intense dislike for BoB, I also hate people that copy and paste private convos and forum stuff to the Eve forums.
Jaques from ISD ruled that copying out of game stuff to these forums is against the rules, so you can just stop now.
If there's a moderator that didn't get the memo I'd be happy to forward the mail to you I have.
It's all good, GK, gotta love the drama ;)
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Nifel
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr
While I have an intense dislike for BoB, I also hate people that copy and paste private convos and forum stuff to the Eve forums.
Jaques from ISD ruled that copying out of game stuff to these forums is against the rules, so you can just stop now.
If there's a moderator that didn't get the memo I'd be happy to forward the mail to you I have.
What rules would that be breaking? **** ruling is all I can say, but I want to hear the reasons behind it.
"When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car."
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ollobrains
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:48:00 -
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privateers continue to kill everyone we are making empire more dangerous than 0.0 atm got an alt wanna shoot the rest of eve with our war decs come join - we are about to send this game into a whole new phase
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari
Two Brothers Mining Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: charlie delta
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Cry..
Um, WTF.. u are a member of ASCN, with all the public posting of ur forums, eve-mail, jesus even TS recordings.. you are now wanting this thread silenced because it is stuff from BOB's internal world??!!
sentinel eeex = bob alt spy ftw?!
Yeah, I forgot to post with my Sir Molle main. Bad me. You've done amazing investigative work, here's a cookie for you too.
Read what Gung wrote, since he said it better than I could (English not being native language and stuff).
Me being member of ASCN has nothing to do with me hating crap like this in a damn online game. I dislike Kugutsu as much as I dislike BoB, for posting private things on eve-o forums. At least I got a chance to shoot bobbits - that'll be harder with Kugutsu. BoB at least did it for propaganda war, this kid is doing it because he lacks attention.
He mostly ****ed me off with disclosings things I've said on ASCN forum (in regards to getting shot inside POS shields) - which was not that horrible. Horrible was that he seemingly can't read or understand the point, and that is really annoying.
Won't even get into how he'd get access to forums (script kiddie is my guess). As in "I've just ran this piece of code, which I have no understanding of, but it allowed me to do 'stuff'" - my favourite kind.
/me wonder if anyone ever checks their weblogs, or uses mod_security, or... sigh
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Dianabolic
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
/me wonder if anyone ever checks their weblogs, or uses mod_security, or... sigh
Trust me, we do all of that - unfortunately it would seem that access is being gained not through espionage (which is how we go about gaining intel, as distasteful as others may find it) but through exploiting security holes in our forum software. The holes will get plugged, of course, and our webmaster people are quite enjoying the chance to fight "real" haxing attempts and such; the thin grey line is mighty obvious from where this particular action is standing, though.
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:56:00 -
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Because it allways go to flamefest and ISD use to delete posts with such convo logs.
As a BoB officer, I can tell that there isnt anything worthing more than a ISK in this thread.
1) There is no date, no location, no context on each logs, and Mr Smith, wanabee CIA or MI6 agent, you know that without details of context, chat logs are nothing.
2) There is no solid argument that made you jump from the content of your report to the topic title : "BoB is affraid of RA/Goon/D2". I can tell that's even ridiculous, as we can't wait to deal with them.
3) You showed hate towards a BoB officer. So I accuse you to not being neutral in your investigation. It is like a famous CIA report we all saw : "There is a lot of weapons of mass destruction in IRAK, and children that eat ppl and women that eat children."
Do I need to go for more ?
Happy xmas all ;)
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