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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: Lowa on 25/12/2006 13:30:54 Oh oh oh! X-mass day drama! I like! 
Nothing that forward thinking leaders havent already planned for and its no surprise that BoB is planning to (in one way or another) and has been going after Capital yards all over EVE.
And you dont think BoB would welcome a real challange? After the dissapointing resistance from ASCN and never been properly attacked my guess is that ppl are feeling the adrenalin already.
And btw, Digital said "never afraid".
But its sort of refreshing to see that things can come out from BoB too, just adds to the apocalyptic build up tbh. And I would figure its considered another challange to plug the holes.
Edit: Haxing is bad btw, just so we are clear on that.
Cheers, Lowa
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hired goon
Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:36:00 -
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Oh my GOD!!!! HERE THEY COME!
WE'RE CHARGIN' OUR LAZOR!!!!!!! -omg-
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Minmatar ****er
blah blah blah... [more libel]
Alt posts are not allowed in this forum -- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Evil Thug
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:40:00 -
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Bob, please make new base in AZN, so we`ll be able to receive some fun pew pew each others, without pos.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:45:00 -
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Well this is fun :)
We always work on the premise that everything in our forums gets read by our enemies, it's simply niave to believe otherwise.
I don't believe it will really be a shock to anyone in the Eve universe that we discuss potential targets, potential attacks on us, potential allies if needed etc. What on earth would our forums be for otherwise?
The OP's obviously talented at what he does and you're not going to see us complain that our forums are being spied upon, would be a lot more kudos to the OP if he'd done it by getting a spy in rather than hacking/exploiting some security loophole in PHP but such is life.
I hope you all enjoy the read and may your conspiracy theories run riot 
Happy christmas tin foil hat sellers and wearers alike!
Blog
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shakaZ XIV
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:46:00 -
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lol, didn't expect that post to end up here 
Originally by: meh
shakaZ XIV asks: "Why wouldn't they go for us? :P
Seriously though... /me looks in crystal ball (or was it tinfoil ball ;p), and sees: AAA probably wanna help RA wipe LV off ze map, then nap D2 (they have done this already, afaik?), after which AAA + goons + RA + D2 + all the other bob haters all gang up on us :D muhaha!
Or not... but you never know! ;p
/me starts mass producing tin-foil
Either way, totally lame from AXE that they just give up. :lol: gg to AAA tbh.."
It was pure tin foil hattery on my part, like it says in the post you copied. My conjecture is based on absolutely nothing. It's just me trying to predict a "worst case scenario".
Who says this will actually happen? And even IF this kind of stuff actually happened, it would be a lot of fun (and a proper challenge, for a change ). No one said we are "afraid" of such stuff. I know some people in bob hoped the ASCN war would provide others with an excuse/opportunity to attack BOB, but it didn't happen.
But good to know the BOB forums are now officially compromised.
/me starts writing morale blog 
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Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight We always work on the premise that everything in our forums gets read by our enemies, it's simply niave to believe otherwise.
Nothing is more valuable than an absolute certainty, as I'm sure you know. Every day in Eve we attempt to manage risk, we reduce it when it suits us, and increase it when it suits us. We fit warp core stabs on our haulers to reduce the chance that they will get ganked. We fit an extra point, to increase the chance we gank something.
In short, a true certainty in Eve is priceless. So now I offer you the chance for a true certainty, I can promise if you give me a BoB forum account with full access, everything you write will be read by your enemies.
On a serious note while I can't condone hacking/exploiting forum holes, but I'm nosy enough to hope he dumps the whole content and throws it up on the web for everybody to read. Would certainly be an eye opener to learn how BoB operates internally etc. But yeah, hackings bad, m'kay?
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight Well this is fun :)
We always work on the premise that everything in our forums gets read by our enemies, it's simply niave to believe otherwise.
Oh really?
Tell me then why do you post stuff on that forum that could get you banned from EVE? (hint: cynonet)
-- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Angry Dan
Caldari Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Angry Dan Thats a big whoops there.
+10 credibility to the OP, who I had assumed was some idiot troll. Authenticating the OP wasn't the planned response was it?
90% of the chatlog is authentic, yes. Why would we deny it?
"omg d2 / ra are building a titan shall we kill it"?
errr?
He's added a nice few pieces of flame in there to spice things up, but the general gist of it? Sure, it's true.
LOL?
Even if the chatlog itself was false, is anyone surprised that such a conversation took place? Why would we deny that we had such plans?
Would be pretty stupid and ultimately pointless, no?
I take everything I read here with a pinch of salt so big you need a truck to move it. 9 out of 10 posts are propaganda. The other one is usually just an outright lie.
And, no I wasn't surprised as to the content, I'm just surprised that you are not denying it. Surprise is a great advantage. It would be stupid to throw it away, unless you are trying to force D2 to start before they have the full monty ready.
I'm also more surprised about the implication of your future targets. I would have gone with helping LV swat RA and goons, with a hint of AAA or AXE on the side. But then, I'm just a lonely peon who knows nothing. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
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Crean NaVar
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:06:00 -
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While the actual value of information is not that high, the comical aspect of the BoB and LV ( and alts ) replies is worth the thread. Very funny to see Dianabolic twisting and turning his way around some unconvenient truths in there.
I¦d like to know how happy the general LV member is with the prospect of working with BoB in the future?
And I¦m sure the general -V- members are very happy to see their great efforts to hold back RA over the past year appreciated that much by their good friend Chowdown.
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Crean NaVar
I¦d like to know how happy the general LV member is with the prospect of working with BoB in the future?
LoL and thats worse then working with aAa ? cute
Nobody is twisting whats been posted here, we are all having a great laugh while fixing the problem. We may work diffrently (spies) but in the end posting other alliances forum threads has never been an issue for us so this really isnt and nothing thats been posted should be coming as a suprise to the general public with a clue :P

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Koredor
ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:52:00 -
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Silly propaganda
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:53:00 -
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was a good read, but i cant help but wonder why the op wasted such a nice spyzor spot for such a useless post?
well if its meant as a promotion then it makes sense.
whatever, i say bring it d2 and others, itll b the biggest thing in 2007 ;) - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists was a good read, but i cant help but wonder why the op wasted such a nice spyzor spot for such a useless post?
well if its meant as a promotion then it makes sense.
whatever, i say bring it d2 and others, itll b the biggest thing in 2007 ;)
Did you watch the Curse of the Golden Flower? -- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |
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Kreul Intentions
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.12.25 16:58:00 -
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Thread scrubbed and cleaned. Happy holidays.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 25/12/2006 17:20:40 Aha,
So that's why our forums are down.
A shame that you had to resort to hacking into the forums, aneu, instead of using ig resources to aquire the information but unimportant none-the-less.
As for the post supposedly from today, that was from a few days back when we discovered someone had hacked into the forums using a few different accounts and the accounts he had hacked were closed.
However, there is absolutely nothing of any importance that he could release here from those forums that we aren't prepared to say ourselves.
We have never been shy of our goals as an alliance.
As for the title of the topic, the day any of our alliance leaders are afraid of anyone is the day we close down BoB and go play pirates.
It is HIGHLY amusing that the best information that the OP could get from our forums was that we were thinking of hitting the D2 titan.... something that the rest of eve knew a month ago 
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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George Hurst
S.M.C Cartage Co.
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Posted - 2006.12.25 17:28:00 -
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Aneu has hit a new level
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Marie Juana
moon7empler Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 18:45:00 -
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nice, nice
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Amthrianius
Fiscal Studies The Five
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Posted - 2006.12.25 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight would be a lot more kudos to the OP if he'd done it by getting a spy in rather than hacking/exploiting some security loophole in PHP but such is life.
Indeed ---------------
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.25 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ather Ialeas Edited by: Ather Ialeas on 25/12/2006 18:36:17
Originally by: Yosupyoyoyo Wonder what he means with the cynonet, but that information is probably expensive.
From what I understand, cynonet is a serie of systems which can be used to transfer capital ships from safe home system to target system as fast as securely possible using cynosural fields. Most commonly oddball dead end lone lowsec systems are good points for such cynonet points since those systems don't have much pirate life at all and are also rather remote so all you need to do is to fly a cynoalt there and log it off and logon back when you really need it...heck, you may even deploy them months/years before they are actually needed and who knows, maybe someone has a reverse cynonet (series of alts guiding capital routes from empire lowsec to own regions) also deployed just in case someone manages to take down your home region.
In short, cynonets are perfect material for tinfoil hattery.
I fail to see how this is material for "tinfoil hattery"? Every alliance, and tbh, most single players, have such routes setup. Not to run away, but to haul stuff from and to empire.
Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
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Sochin
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: Sochin on 25/12/2006 18:53:18
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.25 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Ather Ialeas Edited by: Ather Ialeas on 25/12/2006 18:36:17
Originally by: Yosupyoyoyo Wonder what he means with the cynonet, but that information is probably expensive.
From what I understand, cynonet is a serie of systems which can be used to transfer capital ships from safe home system to target system as fast as securely possible using cynosural fields. Most commonly oddball dead end lone lowsec systems are good points for such cynonet points since those systems don't have much pirate life at all and are also rather remote so all you need to do is to fly a cynoalt there and log it off and logon back when you really need it...heck, you may even deploy them months/years before they are actually needed and who knows, maybe someone has a reverse cynonet (series of alts guiding capital routes from empire lowsec to own regions) also deployed just in case someone manages to take down your home region.
In short, cynonets are perfect material for tinfoil hattery.
I fail to see how this is material for "tinfoil hattery"? Every alliance, and tbh, most single players, have such routes setup. Not to run away, but to haul stuff from and to empire.
I bet 90% of 0.0 alliances have a cyno chain setup like this to move cap ships around or to simply move stuff to and from empire - 0.0.
If BOB's forum was hacked to obtain this information by the OP and theres any proof I really hope something is done to this person (IE ban or warning) either ingame or on the forum.
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Angry Dan
Caldari Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho
I bet 90% of 0.0 alliances have a cyno chain setup like this to move cap ships around or to simply move stuff to and from empire - 0.0.
They do, I got a number of requests as our diplomatic contact by several southern alliances to use HF and NOS space as a cyno route. Some alliances didn't ask. So we podded there cyno minions. Some were friendly enbough to get POS rights. This si a common enough thing to be irrelevant. Especiaslly as you wouldn't be able to exploit the information easily, unless you were able to trap the targeted capitals. Forum whoring won't get you that kind of intel, thats for sure. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
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vipeer
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: Blacklight Well this is fun :)
We always work on the premise that everything in our forums gets read by our enemies, it's simply niave to believe otherwise.
Oh really?
Tell me then why do you post stuff on that forum that could get you banned from EVE? (hint: cynonet)
Do elaborate Blacklight; please. Who/what is cynonet?
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Bobbeh
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: vipeer
Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: Blacklight Well this is fun :)
We always work on the premise that everything in our forums gets read by our enemies, it's simply niave to believe otherwise.
Oh really?
Tell me then why do you post stuff on that forum that could get you banned from EVE? (hint: cynonet)
Do elaborate Blacklight; please. Who/what is cynonet?
Ask Cyvok, We broke his Cynonet once.
Oh wait thats right, you cant anymore sorry I forgot
A member of BOBLite. Current standing BOB Lite 6 - ASCN 0 |

Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 19:17:11
Originally by: Death Bliss
Originally by: Kreul Intentions Thread scrubbed and cleaned. Happy holidays.
The moderating is getting out of hand tbh. We cant even read someone side of the story or even proof of anything happening. Chatlogs and Screenshots and Killboard links/killmail in general are deleted off the forums. If you put them in the game, why is it banned from the forums?? Consider it pls.
the chatlog is at http://kugutsumen.blogspot.com.
Btw bob has to stop the libel... I used social engineering and hypnosis and no hacking is required... when half of the morons in your alliance use bob4tw as a password.
-- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Crucifier
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:16:00 -
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Is it just me or are all bob screaming "OMG THEY HAXORED OUR SERVERS WITH NINJAS ZOMG". Reminds me of something doesn't it. ------ Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
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OozoO
Caldari Decadence. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:20:00 -
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I simply like this thread. period!
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Malius
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Crucifier Is it just me or are all bob screaming "OMG THEY HAXORED OUR SERVERS WITH NINJAS ZOMG". Reminds me of something doesn't it.
Ironic isn't it.
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katz3
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: katz3 on 25/12/2006 19:22:28
Originally by: Crucifier Is it just me or are all bob screaming "OMG THEY HAXORED OUR SERVERS WITH NINJAS ZOMG". Reminds me of something doesn't it.
lol, yea. has bob already started recruiting ascn members ?  ___________________
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