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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 08:35:07 Christmas Day, Bob HQ,
shakaZ XIV asks: "Why wouldn't they go for us? :P
Seriously though... /me looks in crystal ball (or was it tinfoil ball ;p), and sees: AAA probably wanna help RA wipe LV off ze map, then nap D2 (they have done this already, afaik?), after which AAA + goons + RA + D2 + all the other bob haters all gang up on us :D muhaha!
Or not... but you never know! ;p
/me starts mass producing tin-foil
Either way, totally lame from AXE that they just give up. :lol: gg to AAA tbh.."
DigitalCommunist replied: "We also have D2 going to war with us soon (the full extent of which is not clear), with the Fountain flamers and AAA making a move on us at the same time. Since AXE pulled out relatively quick, this might be before we can take all stations and secure them. Translating to capital gangbang in three different regions. If they get their timing right, we're finally gonna have us a good ole challenge on our hands :P
This should make you both horny and worried at the same time, but never afraid. Even if we lose stations or entire regions, its the long run that counts. And of those 3, only AAA would have the willpower to keep it up for half a year.
Oh and D2 finished an Erebus this morning."
Let's rewind a little bit...
D2 bought an erubus BPO around the 6th of November. At the time Bob had its hands full and was considering taking out D2 capital ship array around the 11th of December with MC and Fix... maybe this is another indication of Bob being overstretched.
At the time Sir Molle said: "Titan needs popped, bring MC and FIX." but there were still concerns of ASCN getting back on its feet... Krystal suggested" let D2 have their titan and grow some balls, we'll kill it eventually is my opinion."
To this, Rift Scorn replied : "Couldn't state my feelings better on the subject. Make no mistake D2 will not take it lightly if we do this. I'm all for ruining D2's ****, but squish ASCN first then smash D2.
Seeing as they've NAP'd everything that moved in the North Rolling Eyes and they've had a break from POS wars there's nothing to stop them hitting us hard when we got the remnants of ASCN that could get organized and try a re-take."
DB Preacher reminded everyone that the original plan was:[list=1][*]attack ascn, **** them off, take out capital fleet.[*]attack d2-, **** them off, take out capital fleet.[*]Spend next year in delve with all of eve attacking us.[/list]Sir Molle rectified dbp's post saying that it was supposed to be D2 first.dbp posted an old convo...
-- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:31:00 -
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<Chowdown> Yo <dbp> hello mr chow <Chowdown> How are you? <dbp> aye not bad, just back from physio... I broke both bones in my legs 2.5 weeks ago <dbp> so sat on my ass most of the day <dbp> how about you? <Chowdown> Yeah not to bad <Chowdown> finally got a proper internet connection after a year <Chowdown> so pretty chuffed <dbp> sheesh, that must have been a nightmare Very Happy <Chowdown> Yup stealing wireless is OK <Chowdown> but not the most reliable on dread ops Razz <Chowdown> anyway the reason I have hunted you down <Chowdown> and I have chatted to thol about it a bit <Chowdown> we believe d2 may be building RA a titan <Chowdown> needless to say <Chowdown> that ****s us off a fair bit <dbp> why build ra a titan? <dbp> why not build it for themselves? <Chowdown> Cause they don't like us <dbp> btw, we know the exact location of the titan <dbp> and when it is due out <Chowdown> Well as I understand they have an erebus in production for themselves <dbp> that's the one we know about <Chowdown> yup potentially they have a second <Chowdown> as I understand <dbp> they have 2 motherships <Chowdown> you guys will be finishing off ASCN fairly soon <dbp> not seen anything that suggests another titan <Chowdown> and after we have made are token effort defending ASCN in there death throws <dbp> we won't actually, we've taken paragon soul but feth will be another 2 or 3 months <Chowdown> hmm <Chowdown> I don't know man <Chowdown> there leadership is in a **** state <Chowdown> lots of in fighting <dbp> have you seen how many outposts they have :p <dbp> the pure logistics of killing it all is going to take a while <dbp> they broke badly in paragon soul a couple of weeks ago <Chowdown> I think they might put there hands up <Chowdown> or certain factions of them <dbp> but are regrouping now in feth <Chowdown> AXE will be hard work <dbp> we're not interesting in axe tbh <Chowdown> but Molle has good relations with SR as I understand <dbp> we did have <Chowdown> ahh well there you go Razz <dbp> but he's ****ed at us <dbp> coz we killed cyvok <Chowdown> he is a bit petulant to be honest <dbp> or are killing <dbp> they are ****** with AAA anyay <dbp> I doubt they'll manage to hold that region with aaa there <dbp> which has been great for us albiet I hate aaa with a passion Razz <Chowdown> yup <Chowdown> well 3 factions are well up there on my hate list <Chowdown> RA/Goon, D2 and aaa <Chowdown> to be honest I am not to fussed about anyone else <Chowdown> d2 will be growing soft tho <Chowdown> they have been pretty much left alone for some time now <dbp> in the summer, we looked at who to hit <dbp> we decided D2 > ASCN <dbp> err <dbp> D2 THEN ascn i mean <Chowdown> but ASCN forced the issue? <dbp> however, when we were actually ready to go to war, we found that d2 were ****** up <dbp> so we hit ascn first <dbp> d2 have regrouped and are looking stronger <dbp> so we'll batter them after ascn is finished <dbp> ra/goons will get some too <Chowdown> Well wuth the advent of Kali, we are excited about in roads we can make on RA <Chowdown> goons are losing the will to fight <dbp> without bull****, how is it going against ra/goons? <Chowdown> well <Chowdown> no bull**** and between us <dbp> same problems as ever? RA just impossible to finish off? <Chowdown> V are a pile of dog turd <dbp> fair <Chowdown> and are losing ground to RA through the inability to manage POS <Chowdown> so I sat down with there managment the other day <Chowdown> and I think that will be sorted <Chowdown> the advent of our titans <Chowdown> will make it very ahrd for RA/Goon to be effective <Chowdown> as they will not be able to lock down any systems <dbp> the titan is lovely btw, the jump bridge instantly bypasses that ******* pish traffic control
-- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:31:00 -
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Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 08:32:59
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<Chowdown> yup very excited about that factor <dbp> it sounds like you are still caught in a bit of a mincer of a war <Chowdown> and as you know, it is easy to defend a death star against 200 when you have 20 in system <Chowdown> to be honest <dbp> aye <Chowdown> I will attempt to save V's space <Chowdown> V, KOS etc <Chowdown> CHIMP <Chowdown> I wanted them to suceed, but in the worst case scenario <Chowdown> they were just a meatshield <Chowdown> for us to properly defend and gain enough regions <Chowdown> that is in plac enow <dbp> fair <dbp> you going to keep omist and tenerifis? <dbp> couple of my dudes keep ******* off into omist annoyingly <dbp> but then end up getting camped down for hours on end <Chowdown> yup the alliance we have down there is alright <Chowdown> We see it as our home now <dbp> tbh, it's the bext protected industrial space we've seen :p <Chowdown> well my home well always be curse Smile <dbp> bext& <dbp> **** my spelling :X <Chowdown> You should see what we have sitting in the stations Razz <dbp> hehe <Chowdown> my too mate dyslopixs <dbp> so what are you proposing with regards d2? <Chowdown> mine* <Chowdown> well we should of done it before they made the changes <Chowdown> with regards to reinforced <Chowdown> but maybe a joint venture we can site the reason <Chowdown> RA titan in production yada yada <dbp> we would need to find the actual titan site <dbp> and like i say, we haven't seen it <Chowdown> I have 5 people working on that atm <dbp> only the 2 moships and titan <dbp> for d2 <dbp> if you can find it in the next two weeks <dbp> I'm pretty sure we could come to some arrengement with regards a joint venture to kill the erebus AND the ra titan <Chowdown> yup <Chowdown> if the ra titan exist <Chowdown> exists <Chowdown> but <Chowdown> to be honest <dbp> but it would have to happen in the first week of december really <Chowdown> D2 smacked us loads with regards to losing POS warfare with RA <Chowdown> without understanding it <Chowdown> then they got owned <Chowdown> and they shut up <Chowdown> well that still stings me <Chowdown> I would be happy to take out there Erebus <dbp> cool <Chowdown> as long as things looked OK down south <dbp> we could take a week out without a problem <Chowdown> Well it is not so easy for us <Chowdown> unrelenting is the term <Chowdown> But maybe we could bring 30 dreads and a titan up <Chowdown> as we have little use for the dreads atm <Chowdown> I have employed MC to hit RA in the complexes <dbp> ok, let me break it down with the other dudes <Chowdown> or hopefully will soon <dbp> but basically, it's up to you to find the titan <Chowdown> which should hopefully take up a lot of there resource <Chowdown> yup <Chowdown> regardless of that tian <Chowdown> if it exists <Chowdown> wwe are interested in busting the erebus <dbp> ok, I'll get back to you with our thoughts later this week <Chowdown> cya dude
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:33:00 -
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Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 08:37:14 Blacklight, bob's wannabe spymaster, suggested: "Would be a good general overall strategy to work unofficially with LV to clean all the ****ers out of the south and smack D2 about i.e. we take care of ASCN whilst LV concentrate on reds, we both smack D2's titan and then we both smack both RA/Goons (if they are still going) and then AAA."
At the time D2 was already preparing for Bob's strike... "As far as we know BoB will strike the D2 Titan POS together with FIX and MC, to make sure that we wont finish building the ship by 04.12.06
D2 will do anythin to defend the Titan, probably nap with ragoon if necessary"
Around November 25th, there was a whole discussion as why LV doesn't want to help bob: "After thinking on it more. It really does stink. I would dearly love to kill that titan I mean its the whole BoB vs G thing again really but this benefits LV not us. If they want it dead they come with. We're ready to leave our regions undefended to go and do a job that gives them more than it does us while they sit on their arse. The whole thing reeks of bull**** at this stage and makes me feel that if we go we're gonna come back to find LV, ASCN and half the north squatting in delve"
Alasse said: "I agree completely with Dian (and my god does it hurt Neutral).
Us, MC & FIX all on the other side of the galaxy would be a wet dream for anyone interested in hitting us and there'd be absolutely **** all we could do about it for days.
Not to mention the fact we'd lose most of our capital fleet in the process, we'd be in a very, very sticky situation if LV & ASCN (maybe D2?) were to roll in to our space at any point within weeks after the fact."
Valora: "We cant stop people from getting titans forever, they will get them sooner or later whether we like it or not. Maybe we should focus on making ourselves stronger, rather than trying to weaken 1 opponent which isnt going to directly benefit us.
Sure, its theoretically easier to kill a titan in the POS on paper, but lets say we reversed the situation and we had 1week of advance knowledge that 50 dreads were going to hit one of our pos... im pretty sure we wouldnt have much trouble formulating a plan that would allow us to *****that dread fleet...."
-- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Sentinel Eeex
Caldari Two Brothers Mining Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:40:00 -
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"The posting of chatlogs/private conversations from another third party forum on the EVE-Online Forums is not permitted. In the past we have observed that posting such material has led to excessive amounts of flaming/trolling.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you see a post/thread/signature which you believe to be against the rules.
Kind regards,
<high-ranking ISD>"
Mods, will you FINALLY start enforcing this?
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sentinel Eeex "The posting of chatlogs/private conversations from another third party forum on the EVE-Online Forums is not permitted. In the past we have observed that posting such material has led to excessive amounts of flaming/trolling.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you see a post/thread/signature which you believe to be against the rules.
Kind regards,
<high-ranking ISD>"
I'll just start my own forum if I am censored. -- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

RichThugster
Gallente Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:45:00 -
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whether its permitted or not, very nice read.
the reason its not permitted is ASCN cry babies
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Queeria
Galactic Bull-dike Society II
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:45:00 -
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Edited by: *****ia on 25/12/2006 08:45:37 link to said forum then?
Quality posts if this hasn't all been fabricated and is legit.
Interest +1
Oh, and saved to desktop.
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari Two Brothers Mining Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: RichThugster whether its permitted or not, very nice read.
the reason its not permitted is ASCN cry babies
Here, have a cookie, big hero.
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Ackath
Minmatar Delta team Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:51:00 -
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LOL
Where do you get all this stuff?
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex "The posting of chatlogs/private conversations from another third party forum on the EVE-Online Forums is not permitted. In the past we have observed that posting such material has led to excessive amounts of flaming/trolling.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you see a post/thread/signature which you believe to be against the rules.
Kind regards,
<high-ranking ISD>"
I'll just start my own forum if I am censored.
go for it. with info out in the open like that, it'll be much easier to plug the leak.
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:56:00 -
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Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 08:56:16
Originally by: *****ia Edited by: *****ia on 25/12/2006 08:45:37 link to said forum then?
Quality posts if this hasn't all been fabricated and is legit.
Interest +1
Oh, and saved to desktop.
Just in case: "http://kugutsumen.blogspot.com"
Also if you like my eve-o post, don't forget to donate some ISK. Intelligence and infiltration work, browsing thru enemy forums takes a lot of time.
-- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:58:00 -
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All that really tells me is that BoB is smart enough to know they can't trust anyone to do anything that isn't in their own (not BoB's) best interest, but I already knew that.
Other parts of it are interesting, though not really a surprise.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One."
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Zeknichov
Amarr Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:10:00 -
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All this MC and FIX talk I say we just combine alliances and form McFIX. Anyways can I get a summary that's far too much reading for 2:00am.
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charlie delta
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Cry..
Um, WTF.. u are a member of ASCN, with all the public posting of ur forums, eve-mail, jesus even TS recordings.. you are now wanting this thread silenced because it is stuff from BOB's internal world??!! sentinel eeex = bob alt spy ftw?! 
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Emsigma
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kugutsumen
Also if you like my eve-o post, don't forget to donate some ISK. Intelligence and infiltration work, browsing thru enemy forums takes a lot of time.
Now, at least you should give credits where credit is due :) That is not intel that you have gathered personally, is it? ---
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SaorAlba
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:39:00 -
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Keep it coming m8. Finally after months of Bob post something actually worth reading. Happy christmas to ya all folks. I am off to the mining grounds. Them titan cue's are killing me!
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Emsigma
Originally by: Kugutsumen
Also if you like my eve-o post, don't forget to donate some ISK. Intelligence and infiltration work, browsing thru enemy forums takes a lot of time.
Now, at least you should give credits where credit is due :) That is not intel that you have gathered personally, is it?
To who?
I run one of the largest intelligence agency in EVE, we have compromised over twenty alliances. I think my only rival would be The Mittani and his GIA.
Please don't mention Blacklight or Istvann; they are wannabes compared to me: presomptious, overconfident, arrogant, insolent... -- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: Emsigma
Originally by: Kugutsumen
Also if you like my eve-o post, don't forget to donate some ISK. Intelligence and infiltration work, browsing thru enemy forums takes a lot of time.
Now, at least you should give credits where credit is due :) That is not intel that you have gathered personally, is it?
To who?
I run one of the largest intelligence agency in EVE, we have compromised over twenty alliances. I think my only rival would be The Mittani and his GIA.
Please don't mention Blacklight or Istvann; they are wannabes compared to me: presomptious, overconfident, arrogant, insolent...
To say that The Mittanis' intel is up-to-date? LOL. We've seen his intel, it's even more out of date than yours is.
Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
To say that The Mittanis' intel is up-to-date? LOL. We've seen his intel, it's even more out of date than yours is.
Dian, did you read the OP? the first two quotes are from today. The rest is just to give a background on why you haven't gone for D2 titan yet.
-- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:27:00 -
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BEst Tinfoil post in ages. Well written, concise and with chat logged evidence of said accusations...
Chow calling V a bunch of turds, lol, made me smile.
KIA EVE Home
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: Dianabolic
To say that The Mittanis' intel is up-to-date? LOL. We've seen his intel, it's even more out of date than yours is.
Dian, did you read the OP? the first two quotes are from today. The rest is just to give a background on why you haven't gone for D2 titan yet.
The first two quotes are from a different forum to your chatlog and not part of any command discussion - try again.
Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
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Armois Delgato
FATAL REVELATIONS
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:28:00 -
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This has to be among the best EVE fanfiction I have ever read.
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Gungankllr
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:30:00 -
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While I have an intense dislike for BoB, I also hate people that copy and paste private convos and forum stuff to the Eve forums.
Jaques from ISD ruled that copying out of game stuff to these forums is against the rules, so you can just stop now.
If there's a moderator that didn't get the memo I'd be happy to forward the mail to you I have.
Hidden in this signature is a secret message.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr While I have an intense dislike for BoB, I also hate people that copy and paste private convos and forum stuff to the Eve forums.
Jaques from ISD ruled that copying out of game stuff to these forums is against the rules, so you can just stop now.
If there's a moderator that didn't get the memo I'd be happy to forward the mail to you I have.
It's all good, GK, gotta love the drama ;)
Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
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Nifel
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr While I have an intense dislike for BoB, I also hate people that copy and paste private convos and forum stuff to the Eve forums.
Jaques from ISD ruled that copying out of game stuff to these forums is against the rules, so you can just stop now.
If there's a moderator that didn't get the memo I'd be happy to forward the mail to you I have.
What rules would that be breaking? **** ruling is all I can say, but I want to hear the reasons behind it.
"When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: Sama |

ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:48:00 -
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privateers continue to kill everyone we are making empire more dangerous than 0.0 atm got an alt wanna shoot the rest of eve with our war decs come join - we are about to send this game into a whole new phase
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari Two Brothers Mining Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: charlie delta
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Cry..
Um, WTF.. u are a member of ASCN, with all the public posting of ur forums, eve-mail, jesus even TS recordings.. you are now wanting this thread silenced because it is stuff from BOB's internal world??!! sentinel eeex = bob alt spy ftw?! 
Yeah, I forgot to post with my Sir Molle main. Bad me. You've done amazing investigative work, here's a cookie for you too.
Read what Gung wrote, since he said it better than I could (English not being native language and stuff).
Me being member of ASCN has nothing to do with me hating crap like this in a damn online game. I dislike Kugutsu as much as I dislike BoB, for posting private things on eve-o forums. At least I got a chance to shoot bobbits - that'll be harder with Kugutsu. BoB at least did it for propaganda war, this kid is doing it because he lacks attention.
He mostly ****ed me off with disclosings things I've said on ASCN forum (in regards to getting shot inside POS shields) - which was not that horrible. Horrible was that he seemingly can't read or understand the point, and that is really annoying.
Won't even get into how he'd get access to forums (script kiddie is my guess). As in "I've just ran this piece of code, which I have no understanding of, but it allowed me to do 'stuff'" - my favourite kind.
/me wonder if anyone ever checks their weblogs, or uses mod_security, or... sigh
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sentinel Eeex /me wonder if anyone ever checks their weblogs, or uses mod_security, or... sigh
Trust me, we do all of that - unfortunately it would seem that access is being gained not through espionage (which is how we go about gaining intel, as distasteful as others may find it) but through exploiting security holes in our forum software. The holes will get plugged, of course, and our webmaster people are quite enjoying the chance to fight "real" haxing attempts and such; the thin grey line is mighty obvious from where this particular action is standing, though.
Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:56:00 -
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Because it allways go to flamefest and ISD use to delete posts with such convo logs.
As a BoB officer, I can tell that there isnt anything worthing more than a ISK in this thread.
1) There is no date, no location, no context on each logs, and Mr Smith, wanabee CIA or MI6 agent, you know that without details of context, chat logs are nothing.
2) There is no solid argument that made you jump from the content of your report to the topic title : "BoB is affraid of RA/Goon/D2". I can tell that's even ridiculous, as we can't wait to deal with them.
3) You showed hate towards a BoB officer. So I accuse you to not being neutral in your investigation. It is like a famous CIA report we all saw : "There is a lot of weapons of mass destruction in IRAK, and children that eat ppl and women that eat children."
Do I need to go for more ?
Happy xmas all ;)
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: "Fitz" BOB PILOTS WILL NOT POST IN THE "INTEL" THREAD thanks (except for dian)
-- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Sentinel Eeex
Caldari Two Brothers Mining Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.25 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex /me wonder if anyone ever checks their weblogs, or uses mod_security, or... sigh
Trust me, we do all of that - unfortunately it would seem that access is being gained not through espionage (which is how we go about gaining intel, as distasteful as others may find it) but through exploiting security holes in our forum software.
Erm, yes, that's what I tried to imply (without trying to accuse anyone of actually exploiting :)
It's fairly simple, really.
His 'advertisement' (in his sig) mentions this:
* Security Assessment * Penetration Test
You don't use these terms if you haven't been in computer/network security world.
He forgot "hardening", though 
And I pretty much can assume he can't really code an exploit by himself...
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SaorAlba
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Fire Hawk Because it allways go to flamefest and ISD use to delete posts with such convo logs.
As a BoB officer, I can tell that there isnt anything worthing more than a ISK in this thread.
1) There is no date, no location, no context on each logs, and Mr Smith, wanabee CIA or MI6 agent, you know that without details of context, chat logs are nothing.
2) There is no solid argument that made you jump from the content of your report to the topic title : "BoB is affraid of RA/Goon/D2". I can tell that's even ridiculous, as we can't wait to deal with them.
3) You showed hate towards a BoB officer. So I accuse you to not being neutral in your investigation. It is like a famous CIA report we all saw : "There is a lot of weapons of mass destruction in IRAK, and children that eat ppl and women that eat children."
Do I need to go for more ?
Happy xmas all ;)
Ah so it's true that Damgage control T2 are on the market now. I must hurry to Jita to get me one together with a free clue being a eurly adaptor
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 11:30:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: "Fitz" BOB PILOTS WILL NOT POST IN THE "INTEL" THREAD thanks (except for dian)
oh dear, you certainly have now blown your credibility, direct fiction ftw. Rookie mistakes ftw.
Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
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Darknesss
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.12.25 11:34:00 -
[35]
nice read 
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.25 11:39:00 -
[36]
Nice to see Nebba in TinFoil.
Apart from that not much news tbh. Everybody knows SNRA and BOB are buddy buddy and go way back. Question is how it will be arranged long term :)
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 11:40:00 -
[37]
Emote reads through the chat log and content, strokes chin. Um, where abouts is the afraid bit btw, i must have missed it while i re-read it the 3rd time. Seriously though, thread title is just silly tbh, a pvp alliance scared of, um, pvp? 
How exactly did you come to earn the space your currently inhabit?
BoB lite let them keep it when they surrendered to us and stabbed Xetic between the shoulderblades.
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 11:51:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: "Fitz" BOB PILOTS WILL NOT POST IN THE "INTEL" THREAD thanks (except for dian)
oh dear, you certainly have now blown your credibility, direct fiction ftw. Rookie mistakes ftw.
Fitz's quote is from your IRC channel, chump!
The first two quotes in the OP are from today and the rest was just to put things into context.
Do you really think my post is all fiction?
D2 and RAGOON are already preparing to bust Bob before you'll have the time to turn ASCN into "pet corps"*
Kugutsumen
* pet corp is the official name for vassal corporations.
-- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.25 11:56:00 -
[39]
Originally by: ""
<Chowdown> Hiya mate <dbp> what you up to today? <Chowdown> not much really, nearly located the titan's location <dbp> ah good news that will certainly spice things up <Chowdown> indeed, when will ascn fall? <dbp> did i mention i have a few pets <Chowdown> no you didn't go on.. <dbp> I own a cow, chicken, two dogs, five cats, one fish which I'm tempted to eat, two donkeys and one err wrong looking hamster that.. well you don't want to know. <Chowdown> ah cool mate well i don't care about the titans anymore, may i come over and pet those animals of yours? <dbp> sure!
In other words, no matter how realistic "chatlogs" may look, they can always be made... If you want to post facts -> pics or stfu (well fraps or stfu as pics can be faked just as easy).
Me thinks people are desperate...
High/Low -Sec & 0.0 PvP Recruitment |

BoeserBiber
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Posted - 2006.12.25 11:56:00 -
[40]
Quality! 
you could show us some screens, will ya? 
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Paladineguru
Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.25 11:56:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: Emsigma
Originally by: Kugutsumen
Also if you like my eve-o post, don't forget to donate some ISK. Intelligence and infiltration work, browsing thru enemy forums takes a lot of time.
Now, at least you should give credits where credit is due :) That is not intel that you have gathered personally, is it?
To who?
I run one of the largest intelligence agency in EVE, we have compromised over twenty alliances. I think my only rival would be The Mittani and his GIA.
Please don't mention Blacklight or Istvann; they are wannabes compared to me: presomptious, overconfident, arrogant, insolent...
actually your wrong about your rivals but i wont elaborate.
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Buzee
Flight Of Fantasy
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:00:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Kugutsumen Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 11:06:30 Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 08:58:16 At the time Sir Molle said: [i]"Titan needs popped, bring MC and FIX."
it's not new news, just another reminder who keeps mc on a leash :P
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:22:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Kugutsumen
D2 and RAGOON are already preparing to bust Bob before you'll have the time to turn ASCN into "pet corps"*
Kugutsumen
Best xmas present ever
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Coasterbrian
Gekidoku
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:22:00 -
[44]
Posting intel from private forums into eve-o is lame. 
With that said, an interesting read. I'm inclined to believe it, since I know for a fact the titan intel is accurate and the rest seems to logically fall into place.
However, with the facts presented, I have to agree with the BoBs in this thread on one point: Where is the scared? I see no evidence of fear, merely acknowledgement of the fact that even they have limits when up against a fight on multiple fronts. From personal experience I can agree with this, because while BoB could put anywhere from 60 to 120 men in a system at any time of day, doing so required they remove their presence from anywhere else, including their own space. ----------
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ragewind
Caldari VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:22:00 -
[45]
for the log of god no more bob threads on XMAS day
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Myz Toyou
the Organ Grinder and Company Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:26:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Myz Toyou on 25/12/2006 12:29:54 /me grabs popcorn and waits till Nez Perces & Bitter Dog finally arrives to complete that thread 
CYVOK > All you station jockies better get out their and start killing these idiots |

General Unpleasantness
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:27:00 -
[47]
Suspicious lack of bob forum warriors in this thread? funny...I never thought I would see the greatest,most uber,well organised,most dedicated,titan owning,fearless,merciless,best PvPers,with the best leaders,with a huge industrial backbone and a massive forum squad,who play the game 'hard',who respect nobody and dont want to be liked themselves,who have the best spies,a massive cap fleet,who have challenged all of Eve to come take their crown suddenly.........fall silent? Where is Yazoul and krystal?This guy calls you cowards and you just let him get away with it? Pffffft! |

Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:29:00 -
[48]
lol, good going.
Doubt anyone was suprised by the thing, the title is wrong though :P
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katz3
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:30:00 -
[49]
Very intresting.  ___________________
Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
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Phrixus Zephyr
Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:32:00 -
[50]
Originally by: General Unpleasantness Suspicious lack of bob forum warriors in this thread? funny...I never thought I would see the greatest,most uber,well organised,most dedicated,titan owning,fearless,merciless,best PvPers,with the best leaders,with a huge industrial backbone and a massive forum squad,who play the game 'hard',who respect nobody and dont want to be liked themselves,who have the best spies,a massive cap fleet,who have challenged all of Eve to come take their crown suddenly.........fall silent? Where is Yazoul and krystal?This guy calls you cowards and you just let him get away with it? Pffffft!
...because if you look carefully, they were ordered not to post.
On the other hand the amount of defusing and redirection going on is quite amusing.
Title is misleading and almost has me saying "Well done captain obvious" but the content was interesting to read.
Originally by: Victor Ramirez using it to get the layout of a new system and a quick belt-check is about as practical as using Google Earth to see if your car is still in front of your house.
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Angry Dan
Caldari Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:37:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: Dianabolic
To say that The Mittanis' intel is up-to-date? LOL. We've seen his intel, it's even more out of date than yours is.
Dian, did you read the OP? the first two quotes are from today. The rest is just to give a background on why you haven't gone for D2 titan yet.
The first two quotes are from a different forum to your chatlog and not part of any command discussion - try again.
 Did you just say whay I think you said? Becasue I read that like your saying that the chatlog is authentic, and is on a different forum to the one with the quoted discussions.
Thats a big whoops there.
+10 credibility to the OP, who I had assumed was some idiot troll. Authenticating the OP wasn't the planned response was it? ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
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Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:41:00 -
[52]
I assumed it was authentic, it matches all the rumours/intel/stuff flying about. It's no secret that everybody was expecting a BoB road trip to attmpt to knock the titan out.
The rest of it really is just conjecture and discussion. There's no real meat to it.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:42:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Angry Dan Thats a big whoops there.
+10 credibility to the OP, who I had assumed was some idiot troll. Authenticating the OP wasn't the planned response was it?
90% of the chatlog is authentic, yes. Why would we deny it?
"omg d2 / ra are building a titan shall we kill it"?
errr?
He's added a nice few pieces of flame in there to spice things up, but the general gist of it? Sure, it's true.
LOL?
Even if the chatlog itself was false, is anyone surprised that such a conversation took place? Why would we deny that we had such plans?
Would be pretty stupid and ultimately pointless, no?
Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:43:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Stamm I assumed it was authentic, it matches all the rumours/intel/stuff flying about. It's no secret that everybody was expecting a BoB road trip to attmpt to knock the titan out.
The rest of it really is just conjecture and discussion. There's no real meat to it.
Exactly.
Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
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Laythun
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:49:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Laythun on 25/12/2006 12:49:37 Good Read but old news tbh.
CEI's own Undercover Brother It's great being Amarr, aint it?Ö
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:52:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Dianabolic
He's added a nice few pieces of flame in there to spice things up, but the general gist of it? Sure, it's true.
I copied that chatlog verbatim, didn't have add anything to it. -- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Turkantho
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:02:00 -
[57]
the funny thing in here is that bobbits want to keep their naps secret, guess the "omg stfu you northern nap monkeys" won't work that well when you acknowledge that you nap just like everyone else does. ________
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:06:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Angry Dan
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: Dianabolic
To say that The Mittanis' intel is up-to-date? LOL. We've seen his intel, it's even more out of date than yours is.
Dian, did you read the OP? the first two quotes are from today. The rest is just to give a background on why you haven't gone for D2 titan yet.
The first two quotes are from a different forum to your chatlog and not part of any command discussion - try again.
 Did you just say whay I think you said? Becasue I read that like your saying that the chatlog is authentic, and is on a different forum to the one with the quoted discussions.
Thats a big whoops there.
+10 credibility to the OP, who I had assumed was some idiot troll. Authenticating the OP wasn't the planned response was it?
Dian, sorry... I didn't realise I had to post a genuine bob director post from today for credibility. So here it is:
Originally by: "Dianabolic" In a similar vein to Blacklights' "Paragon Pet summary", can we get an indication of suitable numbers to be allowed in to each region so as not to overload their resources and cause friction amongst future pets.
Current: Esoteria: Fountain: Fethyabolis: Paragon Soul: Querious:
Optimal: Esoteria: Fountain: Fethyabolis: Paragon Soul: Querious:
Thanking you please.
-- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Soros
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:09:00 -
[59]
Only one way to find out.
Bring on the battles tbh.
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Minmatar Wanker
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:21:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Minmatar ****er on 25/12/2006 13:27:11
You do all know he got this imformation by exploiting a loophole in the forum software, not actually working up to director status within bob 
So based on that, the other "20" alliances forums he has acsess to, he is probaly doing the same.
Somthing to do with cookies ? I dont really understand !
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:28:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Lowa on 25/12/2006 13:30:54 Oh oh oh! X-mass day drama! I like! 
Nothing that forward thinking leaders havent already planned for and its no surprise that BoB is planning to (in one way or another) and has been going after Capital yards all over EVE.
And you dont think BoB would welcome a real challange? After the dissapointing resistance from ASCN and never been properly attacked my guess is that ppl are feeling the adrenalin already.
And btw, Digital said "never afraid".
But its sort of refreshing to see that things can come out from BoB too, just adds to the apocalyptic build up tbh. And I would figure its considered another challange to plug the holes.
Edit: Haxing is bad btw, just so we are clear on that.
Cheers, Lowa
What if the truth was something else? |

hired goon
Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:36:00 -
[62]
Oh my GOD!!!! HERE THEY COME!
WE'RE CHARGIN' OUR LAZOR!!!!!!! -omg-
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:38:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Minmatar ****er
blah blah blah... [more libel]
Alt posts are not allowed in this forum -- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Evil Thug
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:40:00 -
[64]
Bob, please make new base in AZN, so we`ll be able to receive some fun pew pew each others, without pos.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:45:00 -
[65]
Well this is fun :)
We always work on the premise that everything in our forums gets read by our enemies, it's simply niave to believe otherwise.
I don't believe it will really be a shock to anyone in the Eve universe that we discuss potential targets, potential attacks on us, potential allies if needed etc. What on earth would our forums be for otherwise?
The OP's obviously talented at what he does and you're not going to see us complain that our forums are being spied upon, would be a lot more kudos to the OP if he'd done it by getting a spy in rather than hacking/exploiting some security loophole in PHP but such is life.
I hope you all enjoy the read and may your conspiracy theories run riot 
Happy christmas tin foil hat sellers and wearers alike!
Blog
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shakaZ XIV
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:46:00 -
[66]
lol, didn't expect that post to end up here 
Originally by: meh
shakaZ XIV asks: "Why wouldn't they go for us? :P
Seriously though... /me looks in crystal ball (or was it tinfoil ball ;p), and sees: AAA probably wanna help RA wipe LV off ze map, then nap D2 (they have done this already, afaik?), after which AAA + goons + RA + D2 + all the other bob haters all gang up on us :D muhaha!
Or not... but you never know! ;p
/me starts mass producing tin-foil
Either way, totally lame from AXE that they just give up. :lol: gg to AAA tbh.."
It was pure tin foil hattery on my part, like it says in the post you copied. My conjecture is based on absolutely nothing. It's just me trying to predict a "worst case scenario".
Who says this will actually happen? And even IF this kind of stuff actually happened, it would be a lot of fun (and a proper challenge, for a change ). No one said we are "afraid" of such stuff. I know some people in bob hoped the ASCN war would provide others with an excuse/opportunity to attack BOB, but it didn't happen.
But good to know the BOB forums are now officially compromised.
/me starts writing morale blog 
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Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:52:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Blacklight We always work on the premise that everything in our forums gets read by our enemies, it's simply niave to believe otherwise.
Nothing is more valuable than an absolute certainty, as I'm sure you know. Every day in Eve we attempt to manage risk, we reduce it when it suits us, and increase it when it suits us. We fit warp core stabs on our haulers to reduce the chance that they will get ganked. We fit an extra point, to increase the chance we gank something.
In short, a true certainty in Eve is priceless. So now I offer you the chance for a true certainty, I can promise if you give me a BoB forum account with full access, everything you write will be read by your enemies.
On a serious note while I can't condone hacking/exploiting forum holes, but I'm nosy enough to hope he dumps the whole content and throws it up on the web for everybody to read. Would certainly be an eye opener to learn how BoB operates internally etc. But yeah, hackings bad, m'kay?
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:05:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Blacklight Well this is fun :)
We always work on the premise that everything in our forums gets read by our enemies, it's simply niave to believe otherwise.
Oh really?
Tell me then why do you post stuff on that forum that could get you banned from EVE? (hint: cynonet)
-- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Angry Dan
Caldari Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:06:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Angry Dan Thats a big whoops there.
+10 credibility to the OP, who I had assumed was some idiot troll. Authenticating the OP wasn't the planned response was it?
90% of the chatlog is authentic, yes. Why would we deny it?
"omg d2 / ra are building a titan shall we kill it"?
errr?
He's added a nice few pieces of flame in there to spice things up, but the general gist of it? Sure, it's true.
LOL?
Even if the chatlog itself was false, is anyone surprised that such a conversation took place? Why would we deny that we had such plans?
Would be pretty stupid and ultimately pointless, no?
I take everything I read here with a pinch of salt so big you need a truck to move it. 9 out of 10 posts are propaganda. The other one is usually just an outright lie.
And, no I wasn't surprised as to the content, I'm just surprised that you are not denying it. Surprise is a great advantage. It would be stupid to throw it away, unless you are trying to force D2 to start before they have the full monty ready.
I'm also more surprised about the implication of your future targets. I would have gone with helping LV swat RA and goons, with a hint of AAA or AXE on the side. But then, I'm just a lonely peon who knows nothing. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
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Crean NaVar
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:06:00 -
[70]
While the actual value of information is not that high, the comical aspect of the BoB and LV ( and alts ) replies is worth the thread. Very funny to see Dianabolic twisting and turning his way around some unconvenient truths in there.
I¦d like to know how happy the general LV member is with the prospect of working with BoB in the future?
And I¦m sure the general -V- members are very happy to see their great efforts to hold back RA over the past year appreciated that much by their good friend Chowdown.
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:15:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Crean NaVar
I¦d like to know how happy the general LV member is with the prospect of working with BoB in the future?
LoL and thats worse then working with aAa ? cute
Nobody is twisting whats been posted here, we are all having a great laugh while fixing the problem. We may work diffrently (spies) but in the end posting other alliances forum threads has never been an issue for us so this really isnt and nothing thats been posted should be coming as a suprise to the general public with a clue :P

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Koredor
ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:52:00 -
[72]
Silly propaganda
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 14:53:00 -
[73]
was a good read, but i cant help but wonder why the op wasted such a nice spyzor spot for such a useless post?
well if its meant as a promotion then it makes sense.
whatever, i say bring it d2 and others, itll b the biggest thing in 2007 ;) - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 15:07:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists was a good read, but i cant help but wonder why the op wasted such a nice spyzor spot for such a useless post?
well if its meant as a promotion then it makes sense.
whatever, i say bring it d2 and others, itll b the biggest thing in 2007 ;)
Did you watch the Curse of the Golden Flower? -- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |
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Kreul Intentions
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.12.25 16:58:00 -
[75]
Thread scrubbed and cleaned. Happy holidays.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 17:15:00 -
[76]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 25/12/2006 17:20:40 Aha,
So that's why our forums are down.
A shame that you had to resort to hacking into the forums, aneu, instead of using ig resources to aquire the information but unimportant none-the-less.
As for the post supposedly from today, that was from a few days back when we discovered someone had hacked into the forums using a few different accounts and the accounts he had hacked were closed.
However, there is absolutely nothing of any importance that he could release here from those forums that we aren't prepared to say ourselves.
We have never been shy of our goals as an alliance.
As for the title of the topic, the day any of our alliance leaders are afraid of anyone is the day we close down BoB and go play pirates.
It is HIGHLY amusing that the best information that the OP could get from our forums was that we were thinking of hitting the D2 titan.... something that the rest of eve knew a month ago 
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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George Hurst
S.M.C Cartage Co.
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Posted - 2006.12.25 17:28:00 -
[77]
Aneu has hit a new level
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Marie Juana
moon7empler Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 18:45:00 -
[78]
nice, nice
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Amthrianius
Fiscal Studies The Five
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Posted - 2006.12.25 18:47:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Blacklight would be a lot more kudos to the OP if he'd done it by getting a spy in rather than hacking/exploiting some security loophole in PHP but such is life.
Indeed ---------------
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.25 18:50:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Ather Ialeas Edited by: Ather Ialeas on 25/12/2006 18:36:17
Originally by: Yosupyoyoyo Wonder what he means with the cynonet, but that information is probably expensive.
From what I understand, cynonet is a serie of systems which can be used to transfer capital ships from safe home system to target system as fast as securely possible using cynosural fields. Most commonly oddball dead end lone lowsec systems are good points for such cynonet points since those systems don't have much pirate life at all and are also rather remote so all you need to do is to fly a cynoalt there and log it off and logon back when you really need it...heck, you may even deploy them months/years before they are actually needed and who knows, maybe someone has a reverse cynonet (series of alts guiding capital routes from empire lowsec to own regions) also deployed just in case someone manages to take down your home region.
In short, cynonets are perfect material for tinfoil hattery.
I fail to see how this is material for "tinfoil hattery"? Every alliance, and tbh, most single players, have such routes setup. Not to run away, but to haul stuff from and to empire.
Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
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Sochin
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 18:50:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Sochin on 25/12/2006 18:53:18
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.25 18:55:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Ather Ialeas Edited by: Ather Ialeas on 25/12/2006 18:36:17
Originally by: Yosupyoyoyo Wonder what he means with the cynonet, but that information is probably expensive.
From what I understand, cynonet is a serie of systems which can be used to transfer capital ships from safe home system to target system as fast as securely possible using cynosural fields. Most commonly oddball dead end lone lowsec systems are good points for such cynonet points since those systems don't have much pirate life at all and are also rather remote so all you need to do is to fly a cynoalt there and log it off and logon back when you really need it...heck, you may even deploy them months/years before they are actually needed and who knows, maybe someone has a reverse cynonet (series of alts guiding capital routes from empire lowsec to own regions) also deployed just in case someone manages to take down your home region.
In short, cynonets are perfect material for tinfoil hattery.
I fail to see how this is material for "tinfoil hattery"? Every alliance, and tbh, most single players, have such routes setup. Not to run away, but to haul stuff from and to empire.
I bet 90% of 0.0 alliances have a cyno chain setup like this to move cap ships around or to simply move stuff to and from empire - 0.0.
If BOB's forum was hacked to obtain this information by the OP and theres any proof I really hope something is done to this person (IE ban or warning) either ingame or on the forum.
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Angry Dan
Caldari Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho
I bet 90% of 0.0 alliances have a cyno chain setup like this to move cap ships around or to simply move stuff to and from empire - 0.0.
They do, I got a number of requests as our diplomatic contact by several southern alliances to use HF and NOS space as a cyno route. Some alliances didn't ask. So we podded there cyno minions. Some were friendly enbough to get POS rights. This si a common enough thing to be irrelevant. Especiaslly as you wouldn't be able to exploit the information easily, unless you were able to trap the targeted capitals. Forum whoring won't get you that kind of intel, thats for sure. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
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vipeer
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:09:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: Blacklight Well this is fun :)
We always work on the premise that everything in our forums gets read by our enemies, it's simply niave to believe otherwise.
Oh really?
Tell me then why do you post stuff on that forum that could get you banned from EVE? (hint: cynonet)
Do elaborate Blacklight; please. Who/what is cynonet?
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Bobbeh
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:13:00 -
[85]
Originally by: vipeer
Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: Blacklight Well this is fun :)
We always work on the premise that everything in our forums gets read by our enemies, it's simply niave to believe otherwise.
Oh really?
Tell me then why do you post stuff on that forum that could get you banned from EVE? (hint: cynonet)
Do elaborate Blacklight; please. Who/what is cynonet?
Ask Cyvok, We broke his Cynonet once.
Oh wait thats right, you cant anymore sorry I forgot
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:15:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 19:17:11
Originally by: Death Bliss
Originally by: Kreul Intentions Thread scrubbed and cleaned. Happy holidays.
The moderating is getting out of hand tbh. We cant even read someone side of the story or even proof of anything happening. Chatlogs and Screenshots and Killboard links/killmail in general are deleted off the forums. If you put them in the game, why is it banned from the forums?? Consider it pls.
the chatlog is at http://kugutsumen.blogspot.com.
Btw bob has to stop the libel... I used social engineering and hypnosis and no hacking is required... when half of the morons in your alliance use bob4tw as a password.
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Crucifier
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:16:00 -
[87]
Is it just me or are all bob screaming "OMG THEY HAXORED OUR SERVERS WITH NINJAS ZOMG". Reminds me of something doesn't it. ------ Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
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OozoO
Caldari Decadence. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:20:00 -
[88]
I simply like this thread. period!
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Malius
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:20:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Crucifier Is it just me or are all bob screaming "OMG THEY HAXORED OUR SERVERS WITH NINJAS ZOMG". Reminds me of something doesn't it.
Ironic isn't it.
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katz3
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:21:00 -
[90]
Edited by: katz3 on 25/12/2006 19:22:28
Originally by: Crucifier Is it just me or are all bob screaming "OMG THEY HAXORED OUR SERVERS WITH NINJAS ZOMG". Reminds me of something doesn't it.
lol, yea. has bob already started recruiting ascn members ?  ___________________
Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
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Jen Green
A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:22:00 -
[91]
Well a cynonet in the detail descibed above, if alliances had such a thing, would only be against the EULA if you were sharing account information details correct?
TBH that sharing of account details against the EULA is retarded IMHO
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Shinjuro
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:25:00 -
[92]
Simply ! No exageration today. Upon close examination, I have determined for myself that the OP got some nice info. there. A good batch of that I personally know to be true. As such.. errr wtfMERRY X-MAS
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Fogy
Caldari Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:27:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Fogy on 25/12/2006 19:28:34 EDIT: woops forumwarriors posting fast to day wrong quote.. 
Originally by: Crucifier Is it just me or are all bob screaming "OMG THEY HAXORED OUR SERVERS WITH NINJAS ZOMG". Reminds me of something doesn't it.
ASCN complains about beeing haxord, or whatnot.. BoB goes: "OMGLOL WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA CRYBABIES!!11!!one!one!! Live with it! " BoB beeing Haxord BoB goes: "omgomg badsportsman.. no cookie for you omgomg!!oneone!!eleven!!11! Haxoring is bad!! buhuhu.. "
I see the pattern.. :P
"From my rotting boddy flowers shall grow and I am in them, and that is eternity"
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:27:00 -
[94]
Originally by: OozoO I simply like this thread. period!
If you like this thread, please donate some money to Kugutsumen :) So far I only got money from ASCN & Goonfleet.
If I manage to raise 500M by the end of the week, I promise I'll post more stuff. That's just 100 people donating 5M or 50 people donating 10M.
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:28:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Jen Green Well a cynonet in the detail descibed above, if alliances had such a thing, would only be against the EULA if you were sharing account information details correct?
TBH that sharing of account details against the EULA is retarded IMHO
To be honest I don't think CCP/GM's care about people sharing accounts I think it was even suggested by one GM's possibly Lemonde incase people couldn't make it for every tourny match.
The only reason they put it in the EULA is so if someone lends their account to someone and that person steals all their stuff they can't come crying to GM's about it. As the GM can then say well you aren't meant to be doing this anyhow.
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vipeer
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:33:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Jen Green Well a cynonet in the detail descibed above, if alliances had such a thing, would only be against the EULA if you were sharing account information details correct?
TBH that sharing of account details against the EULA is retarded IMHO
Account sharing like the same way they can keep Shrike online 24 hours a day ? Who btw still was not banned...
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Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:36:00 -
[97]
Originally by: vipeer
Originally by: Jen Green Well a cynonet in the detail descibed above, if alliances had such a thing, would only be against the EULA if you were sharing account information details correct?
TBH that sharing of account details against the EULA is retarded IMHO
Account sharing like the same way they can keep Shrike online 24 hours a day ? Who btw still was not banned...
you are wrong, now move along.
Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
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OozoO
Caldari Decadence. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:39:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Kugutsumen
If you like this thread, please donate some money to Kugutsumen :)
did so :)
disclaimer: this money is from my personal wallet, no hc involved 
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Coasterbrian
Gekidoku
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:47:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Death Bliss
Originally by: Kreul Intentions Thread scrubbed and cleaned. Happy holidays.
The moderating is getting out of hand tbh. We cant even read someone side of the story or even proof of anything happening. Chatlogs and Screenshots and Killboard links/killmail in general are deleted off the forums. If you put them in the game, why is it banned from the forums?? Consider it pls.
Killmails and killboard links are deleted because of controversy over faked or modified killmails. Private chatlogs and forum posts from outside the game (the chatlog posted was from IRC I think) are copyrighted by their original authors, and reposting them without permission is a breach of copyright law in many countries. If CCP permits copyrighted third party material to be posted on their servers without permission, they open themselves up for a lawsuit or potentially being required to give up the personal details of account owners via subpoena. ----------
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m0jo
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 20:48:00 -
[100]
Originally by: CallMe 8675309 I don't think the BoB posters in this thread understand why everybody is tickled about the chatlogs.
It isn't that we're surprised that you're planning to attack D2 or Ra/Goon, or that you're worried about them ganging up on you.
It's that Blacklight and DBPreacher have been shown to be regular nerds like everybody else. There's nothing "special" about BoB's leadership anymore; the mystique is gone. They midjudge other alliances like everybody else, they get lied to (LV lol) like everybody else, they bite off more they can chew like everybody else, they're afraid of too many people attacking them at once like everybody else. The aura of "omnipotence itself" dissolves, and everybody can see the Wizard of Oz standing behind the green curtain talking into a microphone.
Eventually D2 and AAA and the "new" Southern Coalition will get together and mop the floor with BoB. You can only go so long in any game running about and acting like your ***** doesn't smell before so many people hate you that they're willing to team up just to kill you. These chatlogs will just accelerate the process because now everybody can smell the fear.
Good luck Bobbits.
One could only hope, wish and pray for such a thing. I really need that for this game, I've been playing on easy mode far too long now.
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LuthienTinuviel
Starlancers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 21:05:00 -
[101]
Edited by: LuthienTinuviel on 25/12/2006 21:07:20
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 25/12/2006 17:20:40 Aha,
So that's why our forums are down.
A shame that you had to resort to hacking into the forums, aneu, instead of using ig resources to aquire the information but unimportant none-the-less.
As for the post supposedly from today, that was from a few days back when we discovered someone had hacked into the forums using a few different accounts and the accounts he had hacked were closed.
However, there is absolutely nothing of any importance that he could release here from those forums that we aren't prepared to say ourselves.
We have never been shy of our goals as an alliance.
As for the title of the topic, the day any of our alliance leaders are afraid of anyone is the day we close down BoB and go play pirates.
It is HIGHLY amusing that the best information that the OP could get from our forums was that we were thinking of hitting the D2 titan.... something that the rest of eve knew a month ago 
dbp
Proof or STFU?
In a thread where RL law is being quoted by several of your compadries you make a slander on another player saying that they willfully hacked your forums if you have the proof get them arested for hacking if you don't STFU.
In related news posting from internal forums is equally lame be it from a BoB forum or a ASCN forum or a D2 forum....
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slip66
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 21:28:00 -
[102]
Originally by: shakaZ XIV lol, didn't expect that post to end up here 
Originally by: meh
shakaZ XIV asks: "Why wouldn't they go for us? :P
It was pure tin foil hattery on my part, like it says in the post you copied. My conjecture is based on absolutely nothing. It's just me trying to predict a "worst case scenario".
Who says this will actually happen? And even IF this kind of stuff actually happened, it would be a lot of fun (and a proper challenge, for a change ). No one said we are "afraid" of such stuff. I know some people in bob hoped the ASCN war would provide others with an excuse/opportunity to attack BOB, but it didn't happen.
But good to know the BOB forums are now officially compromised.
/me starts writing morale blog 
whats funny is the OP made it seem your post came from the director sections when its form a thread I made in the lounge section. Which is our general bs section.
granted some of that might have come from director section. I dunno since I dont have access.
Bob leadership do a great job of compartmentalizing information in a need to know basis. Unlike many other alliances.
Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
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slip66
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 21:37:00 -
[103]
Originally by: vipeer
Originally by: Jen Green Well a cynonet in the detail descibed above, if alliances had such a thing, would only be against the EULA if you were sharing account information details correct?
TBH that sharing of account details against the EULA is retarded IMHO
Account sharing like the same way they can keep Shrike online 24 hours a day ? Who btw still was not banned...
bwahah no one logs on shrike but shrike. he actually leads us and plays the game instead of posting blogs or ranting on the forums to members about what we need to do. Unlike some former alliance leaders.
Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers |

DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 21:52:00 -
[104]
Originally by: LuthienTinuviel
Proof or STFU?
In a thread where RL law is being quoted by several of your compadries you make a slander on another player saying that they willfully hacked your forums if you have the proof get them arested for hacking if you don't STFU.
Sorry, couldn't careless if you want proof. I don't need to prove anything to anyone and I couldn't careless what you or anybody else thinks.
RL law has no place in CAOD, if you want to bring it in here then go whine at someone else because it is of absolutely zero interest to me.
Like I said above, the information is month old at best and there isn't anything revealing that we haven't come out and said right here.
/me shrugs
Believe what you want boys and girls, in a couple of weeks nobody will give two craps about it

dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Kin Hanyerec
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 21:56:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Kin Hanyerec on 25/12/2006 21:56:26 i'm toooooooo slow...
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The Kola
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 22:05:00 -
[106]
As if there is a need/reason to post future alliance plans on a forum.. or Didn't know our alliance actions were based out of lounge chat section of our forums.

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the Poet
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 22:07:00 -
[107]
Originally by: CallMe 8675309 I don't think the BoB posters in this thread understand why everybody is tickled about the chatlogs.
It isn't that we're surprised that you're planning to attack D2 or Ra/Goon, or that you're worried about them ganging up on you.
It's that Blacklight and DBPreacher have been shown to be regular nerds like everybody else. There's nothing "special" about BoB's leadership anymore; the mystique is gone. They midjudge other alliances like everybody else, they get lied to (LV lol) like everybody else, they bite off more they can chew like everybody else, they're afraid of too many people attacking them at once like everybody else. The aura of "omnipotence itself" dissolves, and everybody can see the Wizard of Oz standing behind the green curtain talking into a microphone.
Eventually D2 and AAA and the "new" Southern Coalition will get together and mop the floor with BoB. You can only go so long in any game running about and acting like your ***** doesn't smell before so many people hate you that they're willing to team up just to kill you. These chatlogs will just accelerate the process because now everybody can smell the fear.
Good luck Bobbits.
God I LOVE IT when people foam at the mouth.
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Malius
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.12.25 22:15:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Malius on 25/12/2006 22:15:46
Originally by: Dracorimus All that effort, breaking the RL law to get some info in regards to a game, very sad 
Proof or STFU
Edit: aww crap someone beat me to it.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 22:38:00 -
[109]
LOL
How pathetic some BOB fanbois are ? some tard hacked some info , and now the sky is falling ? we have cap ships and we use a cynonet omg what an information break through , sadly you didnt get that we also use T2 ships and we buy skills from empire 
Our enemies know who they are and this has no bearing what so ever on us and our performance and what we will do to them in due time so enjoy this little forum spin drama and we will see you all in space once we are done mopping up ASCN  "Lord Samaiel, Rise "
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.25 22:44:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Angry Dan Thats a big whoops there.
+10 credibility to the OP, who I had assumed was some idiot troll. Authenticating the OP wasn't the planned response was it?
90% of the chatlog is authentic, yes. Why would we deny it?
"omg d2 / ra are building a titan shall we kill it"?
errr?
He's added a nice few pieces of flame in there to spice things up, but the general gist of it? Sure, it's true.
LOL?
Even if the chatlog itself was false, is anyone surprised that such a conversation took place? Why would we deny that we had such plans?
Would be pretty stupid and ultimately pointless, no?
pooo now my post was pointless, thanks for euining my christmas waaaa... /emote goes to cry by the christmas tree
High/Low -Sec & 0.0 PvP Recruitment |

Ediz Daxx
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:09:00 -
[111]
Drama is seriously lacking..
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Marko Debreault
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:13:00 -
[112]
Here's my personal conspiracy theory!
Outbreak's Killboard was hacked just a little while ago. Some tard deleted all our capital ship and command ship kills, and some others besides.
The password was changed to 'bob4tw'. We thought that was a bit too obvious and never really suspected BoB as an entity, or even any individual within BoB. It seemed to me it was probably just some random kiddie, and the faked password was silliness.
But lo and behold, here comes another fellow guessing passwords and going where he shouldn't. Could he be the same culprit? On the surface there's no real reason to think so. Clever kiddies and bored adults are a dime a dozen.
But then he says, "Btw bob has to stop the libel... I used social engineering and hypnosis and no hacking is required... when half of the morons in your alliance use bob4tw as a password."
bob4tw coming up again. Is there a connection? Is it true that bob members use 'bob4tw' as a password, and might have hacked Outbreaks killboard? Or . . . could Klugutsman be the hacker, and now he's trying to push Outbreak towards taking a position against BoB?
Should Outbreak avenge their hacked killboard by attacking BoB? Should we try to figure out who Kulugmtenasn is and hunt him down and tickle his toes until he confesses? Should we continue to gather clues, wait until the time is ripe and we know more, and then pounce? Or should we shrug and move on? Find out in the next episode of 'As the forums update!'
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Yosupyoyoyo
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:16:00 -
[113]
LOL
Yazoul, the question about the cynonet was in direct relation to his remark about it being a bannable offense. So i dont think it had anything to do with a cynochain of alts. Far as i can tell setting up a chain of cyno alts to jump cap ships isnt bannable, so it had to be something else. Im guessing you missed it so ill copy/paste it just for you: Quote: Tell me then why do you post stuff on that forum that could get you banned from EVE? (hint: cynonet)
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:16:00 -
[114]
choo choo, the drama train is coming.
This whole thread is something that anyone could have conspired after too many egg-nogs. BoB has enemies, D2 doesn't like BoB, AAA (etc) are all probably willing to pile against BoB... 
Going all the way back to GNW, IRON+D2 both have issues with BoB. ASCN have issues with BoB. RAGOON have ideas of mass ownership of space, BoB have stated publically they would be a good target. In fact, the only alliance that probably doesn't want a piece of BoB is FIX!
Anyway, nice entertainment for a xmas night. I hope new years brings a few independent power blocks to the new regions, and hopefully more interesting times. These whole "BoB are going to attack ..." threads are starting to bore me.
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LuthienTinuviel
Starlancers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:22:00 -
[115]
Originally by: DB Preacher Sorry, couldn't careless if you want proof. I don't need to prove anything to anyone and I couldn't careless what you or anybody else thinks.
RL law has no place in CAOD, if you want to bring it in here then go whine at someone else because it is of absolutely zero interest to me.
Like I said above, the information is month old at best and there isn't anything revealing that we haven't come out and said right here.
/me shrugs
Believe what you want boys and girls, in a couple of weeks nobody will give two craps about it

dbp
You brought RL into it by accusing another player of Hacking into your forums in RL yet you say it has no place here... err okay have your cake and eat it I don't particularly care about this thread other than the fact that a) it is lame (as I said previously posting from private forum is lame) and that b) you brought Real Life (not in character or in game)slander into it, anyway as you don't care about it and don't wish to provide any proof then I think we can take your accusation as what it was a pile of steaming crap.
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:28:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Kryztal on 25/12/2006 23:28:32
Originally by: Marko Debreault Here's my personal conspiracy theory!
Outbreak's Killboard was hacked just a little while ago. Some tard deleted all our capital ship and command ship kills, and some others besides.
The password was changed to 'bob4tw'. We thought that was a bit too obvious and never really suspected BoB as an entity, or even any individual within BoB. It seemed to me it was probably just some random kiddie, and the faked password was silliness.
But lo and behold, here comes another fellow guessing passwords and going where he shouldn't. Could he be the same culprit? On the surface there's no real reason to think so. Clever kiddies and bored adults are a dime a dozen.
But then he says, "Btw bob has to stop the libel... I used social engineering and hypnosis and no hacking is required... when half of the morons in your alliance use bob4tw as a password."
bob4tw coming up again. Is there a connection? Is it true that bob members use 'bob4tw' as a password, and might have hacked Outbreaks killboard? Or . . . could Klugutsman be the hacker, and now he's trying to push Outbreak towards taking a position against BoB?
Should Outbreak avenge their hacked killboard by attacking BoB? Should we try to figure out who Kulugmtenasn is and hunt him down and tickle his toes until he confesses? Should we continue to gather clues, wait until the time is ripe and we know more, and then pounce? Or should we shrug and move on? Find out in the next episode of 'As the forums update!'
Thats pretty lame Marko and im sorry to hear that, bob4tw was used as a pw for one of our many channels its a pretty global thing as you properbly are fully aware off and easy to guess but it wasnt really a super sekrit squirel (cant spell) channel. Not that i know what each of ours members do in their free time but i know that sabotage (out of game) isnt something we do. Im sure you already knew that thought :P
So yeah enough of the boohoo's peeps its christmas and its a game our forums will be fixed and i would encourage other alliances to try and beef up their forum vulnerabilities like cookies etc (im no expert)
Only a mild inconvinience (again i suck at spelling) and had no affect on our operations in feyth 
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:29:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Marko Debreault Here's my personal conspiracy theory!
Outbreak's Killboard was hacked just a little while ago. Some tard deleted all our capital ship and command ship kills, and some others besides.
The password was changed to 'bob4tw'. We thought that was a bit too obvious and never really suspected BoB as an entity, or even any individual within BoB. It seemed to me it was probably just some random kiddie, and the faked password was silliness.
But lo and behold, here comes another fellow guessing passwords and going where he shouldn't. Could he be the same culprit? On the surface there's no real reason to think so. Clever kiddies and bored adults are a dime a dozen.
But then he says, "Btw bob has to stop the libel... I used social engineering and hypnosis and no hacking is required... when half of the morons in your alliance use bob4tw as a password."
bob4tw coming up again. Is there a connection? Is it true that bob members use 'bob4tw' as a password, and might have hacked Outbreaks killboard? Or . . . could Klugutsman be the hacker, and now he's trying to push Outbreak towards taking a position against BoB?
Should Outbreak avenge their hacked killboard by attacking BoB? Should we try to figure out who Kulugmtenasn is and hunt him down and tickle his toes until he confesses? Should we continue to gather clues, wait until the time is ripe and we know more, and then pounce? Or should we shrug and move on? Find out in the next episode of 'As the forums update!'
You should know better that we dont use lame tactics or out of game hacks or exploits 
As for the OP , what difference does i make who is he or what he has done ? He just made a fool of himself , got him cpl of forum pages of fame and nothing else , absolutly nothing else . A desperate attempt to attract attention. "Lord Samaiel, Rise "
BNC Vs CELES Video
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KIATheClash
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:30:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Kugutsumen
Originally by: OozoO I simply like this thread. period!
If you like this thread, please donate some money to Kugutsumen :) So far I only got money from ASCN & Goonfleet.
If I manage to raise 500M by the end of the week, I promise I'll post more stuff. That's just 100 people donating 5M or 50 people donating 10M.
Lol this might be even a BoB alt raising isk this way since he can :
1 : view their own forums and stuff 2 : has acces to many other alliance forums as can be seen at their dedicated spy network 3 : lack of BoB forum squad / smacktalking wh*res xx .... and so on ..
Its very nicely written , a refreshing read indeed .
ps : BoB has soem good writers in it as well ;)
God knows if its a main or a BoB alt ;)
Or did i just added to the tinfoil head mania ?
xx
Mods this is currently my main .
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:31:00 -
[119]
Originally by: LuthienTinuviel
Originally by: DB Preacher Sorry, couldn't careless if you want proof. I don't need to prove anything to anyone and I couldn't careless what you or anybody else thinks.
RL law has no place in CAOD, if you want to bring it in here then go whine at someone else because it is of absolutely zero interest to me.
Like I said above, the information is month old at best and there isn't anything revealing that we haven't come out and said right here.
/me shrugs
Believe what you want boys and girls, in a couple of weeks nobody will give two craps about it

dbp
You brought RL into it by accusing another player of Hacking into your forums in RL yet you say it has no place here... err okay have your cake and eat it I don't particularly care about this thread other than the fact that a) it is lame (as I said previously posting from private forum is lame) and that b) you brought Real Life (not in character or in game)slander into it, anyway as you don't care about it and don't wish to provide any proof then I think we can take your accusation as what it was a pile of steaming crap.
I think dbp just told you that we dont care what you think. We have the proof but its a game and in the end will be forgotten in a couple of weeks so move on.
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DeWieKat
Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:42:00 -
[120]
Edited by: DeWieKat on 25/12/2006 23:42:52 oh nooo... first, this x-mass madness in real life because off all those stupid people trying to buy some gifts 5 minutes before shop closes, then listening to some silly stories of some old family members and then, eventually, on the way, looking for some fresh air u visit eve-o just to read this useless tread....
i think iam gonna log off for a month...
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LuthienTinuviel
Starlancers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:46:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Kryztal I think dbp just told you that we dont care what you think. We have the proof but its a game and in the end will be forgotten in a couple of weeks so move on.
Indeed it is and I am very well aware that what I am saying probably matters not at all to DBP or yourself... what I was taking umbrage at was the accusation of a criminal offence in RL of another player in CAOD forum without any proof forthcoming other than "hearsay". Being absolutely honest neither the accusation nor the proof should be furnished here but instead should be taken up with relevant RL authorities if such a case was valid.
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:48:00 -
[122]
Originally by: KIATheClash Said stuff
Yo Clash, long time no see! 
Cheers, Lowa
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LuthienTinuviel
Starlancers
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:48:00 -
[123]
Originally by: DeWieKat Edited by: DeWieKat on 25/12/2006 23:42:52 oh nooo... first, this x-mass madness in real life because off all those stupid people trying to buy some gifts 5 minutes before shop closes, then listening to some silly stories of some old family members and then, eventually, on the way, looking for some fresh air u visit eve-o just to read this useless tread....
i think iam gonna log off for a month...
Funny that my main Elwe is inactive pretty much for that reason cause I got fed up of all the crap being spread around on the forums.... can see where your coming from.
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KIATheClash
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.25 23:57:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Lowa
Originally by: KIATheClash Said stuff
Yo Clash, long time no see! 
Cheers, Lowa
Maybe sometime soon for good again 
Depends on what teh judge tells after erhm dui  Mods this is currently my main .
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whisk
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.26 00:13:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Marko Debreault Here's my personal conspiracy theory!
Outbreak's Killboard was hacked just a little while ago. Some tard deleted all our capital ship and command ship kills, and some others besides.
The password was changed to 'bob4tw'. We thought that was a bit too obvious and never really suspected BoB as an entity, or even any individual within BoB. It seemed to me it was probably just some random kiddie, and the faked password was silliness.
But lo and behold, here comes another fellow guessing passwords and going where he shouldn't. Could he be the same culprit? On the surface there's no real reason to think so. Clever kiddies and bored adults are a dime a dozen.
But then he says, "Btw bob has to stop the libel... I used social engineering and hypnosis and no hacking is required... when half of the morons in your alliance use bob4tw as a password."
bob4tw coming up again. Is there a connection? Is it true that bob members use 'bob4tw' as a password, and might have hacked Outbreaks killboard? Or . . . could Klugutsman be the hacker, and now he's trying to push Outbreak towards taking a position against BoB?
Should Outbreak avenge their hacked killboard by attacking BoB? Should we try to figure out who Kulugmtenasn is and hunt him down and tickle his toes until he confesses? Should we continue to gather clues, wait until the time is ripe and we know more, and then pounce? Or should we shrug and move on? Find out in the next episode of 'As the forums update!'
You should know better that we dont use lame tactics or out of game hacks or exploits 
From what i read in marko's post, by no means is he jumping up and down pointing at BoB shouting "look they did it". Merely pointing out bob4tw being mentioned in this account of hacking/password guessing as well. If it was a bob guy he must have sh*t for brains for changing it to bob4tw.
About the rest of the post, why don't you guys go and fight BoB and find out if they are scared instead of discussing it on a forum.
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Vadoc Trax
Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.26 00:18:00 -
[126]
Because they think that letting BoB rest and take time strengthening their hold in the new regions is a good idea. -------------------------------------------------- Rule #37: There is no ôoverkillö. There is only ôopen fireö and ôI need to reloadö. |

ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.26 00:20:00 -
[127]
we killed some BOB uber
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Gusar Mora
Caldari Sun-inc
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Posted - 2006.12.26 00:46:00 -
[128]
seems to me that bob are hard out forum *****s, they keep posting in stupid threads, like 20 off em to answer 1 persons post, so pathetic.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 00:48:00 -
[129]
If this is a stupid thread, why did you bother posting? If this isn't a stupid thread, what's your point exactly?
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Ilmonstre
Minmatar Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.12.26 00:56:00 -
[130]
all i can say is i had a nice laugh reading this after coming home from a visit to the folks.
only the future will tell what actually will happen and its so much more fun to just enjoy the ride and have fun without trying to get spies all over the place as that removes so much fun as you can get to know so manny moves up front.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 01:02:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Gusar Mora seems to me that bob are hard out forum *****s, they keep posting in stupid threads, like 20 off em to answer 1 persons post, so pathetic.
Yeah, you would almost think they were replying to a thread thatwas relevant to them , muppet
How exactly did you come to earn the space your currently inhabit?
BoB lite let them keep it when they surrendered to us and stabbed Xetic between the shoulderblades.
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LuthienTinuviel
Starlancers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 01:18:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Takahashi Arran
Originally by: DB Preacher
Sorry, couldn't careless if you want proof. I don't need to prove anything to anyone and I couldn't careless what you or anybody else thinks.
/tinfoil hat: zomg dbp is madeyes alt but seriously this was just a promo for the guy, and by all accounts its worked very well too, BOB have no real proof that this guy hacked them rather than obtained the information legitimatley. cynonet is in EULA violation because it relys on a network of shared accounts.
Can't be unless DB has turned into a Scottish Liverpudlian.... OMG what a horrible thought just had a visual of a scouser wearing a kilt  .
(am scottish so can make fun of scots.. and as for liverpudlians they can stand up for themselves )
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Mi Lai
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2006.12.26 01:18:00 -
[133]
forgive me, as Im drunk. But the gist of this post was : D@ and bob dont like each other (duhhhh), LVand Bob might have same goals (with goons and ra together, duuuuuhhh) and they might not like capital shipyards (after the ASCN-BOB deal to clean them prior to their war war, duuuuh.
So all in all, Bobies security thingie with 'need to know basis' and 'layered info' still worrks 100% as your info dint givbe squat. Youj only alerted them to a possbilble leak before you could figure out somrthing really important, so you shot youself in the fooot.
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2006.12.26 01:35:00 -
[134]
Originally by: slip66
Originally by: KIATheClash
Originally by: Lowa
Originally by: KIATheClash Said stuff
Yo Clash, long time no see! 
Cheers, Lowa
Maybe sometime soon for good again 
Depends on what teh judge tells after erhm dui 
been there sucks, life goes on.. Save money its expensive! Dont do it again!
Next time you think of doing something like that try and remember this name:
Rampage (Andrew Lance)
He aint here no more coz someone though dui was a good idea. Neither is a few friends of mine.
/Lowa
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Manfred Sideous
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.26 01:59:00 -
[135]
Originally by: FireFoxx80 choo choo, the drama train is coming.
Going all the way back to GNW, IRON+D2 both have issues with BoB. ASCN have issues with BoB. RAGOON have ideas of mass ownership of space, BoB have stated publically they would be a good target. In fact, the only alliance that probably doesn't want a piece of BoB is FIX!
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Fighting BOB when we were not blue to eachother was fun. They bring it and dont run.
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.26 02:11:00 -
[136]
pretty tough in empire to. Still we got some kills took some loses
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Rebellion
Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 02:32:00 -
[137]
You could have at least dug up my thread about how to save a dying alliance (and thus how to resist BoB). That information would have probably been more useful for the non-BoB players. If you were smart enough, you should have saved all forums that you gained access to in your local drive.
I'm amused that this was the OP's definition of a thorough infiltration, and that he thought that the information he gathered was worth compromising his access and alerting us of the need to tighten security.
The OP was probably too excited to announce his victory over BoB that he didn't consider that all of the information released is actually beneficial to BoB, because it shows everyone that while we're busy with ASCN, we still consider other avenues, and that everything we've been doing so far is still within comfortable capacity of our alliance.
I guess now we can't pretend that ASCN is taking up all of our resources and thus paint a facade of vulnerability enough to entice some other alliance into making the mistake of making a beeline for our core systems.
Oh, and getting access to the director forums means that you have either accessed it by using a director's account, or used some very naughty means. Just evaluate the information you got, and think about how if we really wanted to keep thing completely secret, we'd be using VPN for all of internal BoB communications. The only reason why it's not done is because it's too much. What would you do then? Are you even up to the challenge? I for one would welcome it. :]
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Calisto Cody
Minmatar The Black Swan Society
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Posted - 2006.12.26 04:00:00 -
[138]
wow some steller intel i must say..
D2 and RAgoon building titans..i remember that from like months ago
Bob going to attack D2 and Ragoon for this..well duh ffs, they would with or without titans anyway.
account sharing..erm ..one prove it, 2 what someoneelse said, the devs only put that so idioets dont complain when all there stuff is stolen.
making yourself seem like the master of intel. dude you read a forum and IRC..its not hard to do, more so with hax :P
so you wasted my time, only good read was the responses from bob saying well duh ^_^
Grimkill > He said . . .. I don't know why you wear a bra; you've got nothing to put in it. <br>She said .. . You wear pants don't you?
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Rau'ric Fitzrovia
Twisted Attitude
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Posted - 2006.12.26 04:27:00 -
[139]
Whilst this is an entertaining read, it really doesn't promise the grand claim of the thread title. 
Kugutsmumen, I think you're mistaking evaluation, discussion & strategy with the emotion of fear.
"BoB is afraid of AAA + Goons + RA + D2!"
Re-read what you've posted. It's discussion. Frank at times.
At best you provide insight into how select members of Bob are thinking. At best your logs put some egg of Chowdowns face regarding V. (Disclaimer to Chowdown and LV: If any of this is proven true and the logs weren't tampered.) At best this shows that the top alliances are prepared to find a common cause.
A breakdown of the "intel":
- D2 will have - or now have - Titan capability. - RA will have - or now have - Titan capability. - Bob are very aware and are/have been considering options. - LV are very aware and are/have been considering options. - High ranking members of BoB and LV have talked together.
Whilst it's commendable - or despicable - that you can 'listen' on the thoughts of high-level alliance members through nefarious means, the "intel" that you provide is...well...sh1te. ffs I've heard most of the above from these forums and I just fart about in Eve in a drunken stupor.
Your post indicates that you can listen in to on the conversation of how a top [insert personal view on Bob's ranking] alliance thinks. No more, no less. Thank-you, it's interesting and fairly humorous (especially in light of BoB's [alleged] private forum activities in the past.) But no need to wrap it up in amazing never-heard-before "intel" and no need to spin the "intel" to your perceptional liking.
Any-who. For me the best quote is:
"We also have D2 going to war with us soon (the full extent of which is not clear), with the Fountain flamers and AAA making a move on us at the same time. Since AXE pulled out relatively quick, this might be before we can take all stations and secure them. Translating to capital gangbang in three different regions. If they get their timing right, we're finally gonna have us a good ole challenge on our hands :P"
Gotta love that attitude!
Personally? Come on AAA! Bring it D2! Roll on Insurgency!
MEAT IS MURDER! DOWN WITH BOB! Rau
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Death Merchant
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.26 05:13:00 -
[140]
I believe the OP basically had a few effects.
1) Showed he had access to BoB forums and therefore gained more buisness for his "intel" services. Great Value for him.
2) Whipped the tech 2 tinfoil market into a frenzy. No real value to community but tech 2 tinhat marketeers are racking in the isk.
3) Gave a small dent to the BoB intellegince network. Mixed value for BoB. Yes they will improve security but it never feels cool to be violated.
4) No really groundbreaking news to the "bigger" alliances leadership however gave them some insight to the relationship that might exist between BoB and LV.
5) Making the BoB Spinmasters go into full damage control mode of both casting doubt on the original poster and trivalizing the extent of the leak. This is priceless to some, worthless to others.
All in all pretty good thread for a monday. "What happens in Deklien stays in Deklien". |

Nifel
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 05:29:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Rau'ric Fitzrovia I read this thread and the posted logs before they were snipped, before crimbo dinner, beers, cheeky-chiffs and whiskey. But replied after the snippage, so relying on a bit of 7-second-memory for the "intel" summary.
You can read it on his blog. Or better yet, something I've started doing consistently now, read it on eve-search. As long as the thread is archived before the mods gets to it you can read it without it being butchered.
"When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: Sama |

Evil Thug
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.26 05:45:00 -
[142]
Edited by: Evil Thug on 26/12/2006 05:47:36
Originally by: Death Merchant
All in all pretty good thread for a monday.
Made LV to show its true color. Comments from member of "turd of dog****" alliance - made me giggle - 2 months ago, they were screaming : "cheap attempt to divide lv and v". Funny thread.
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.26 06:00:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Evil Thug Edited by: Evil Thug on 26/12/2006 05:47:36
Originally by: Death Merchant
All in all pretty good thread for a monday.
Made LV to show its true color. Comments from member of "turd of dog****" alliance - made me giggle - 2 months ago, they were screaming : "cheap attempt to divide lv and v". Funny thread.
For someone in no way involved with LV, both on the battlefield or otherwise, you seem like you know what you're talking about.
But you don't. There is no such thing as "turd of dog****"--it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Your inquisition is both crass and empty.
Grow some balls and post like a man, not a child.
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Tricit
Caldari Dark Entropy
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Posted - 2006.12.26 06:16:00 -
[144]
Edited by: Tricit on 26/12/2006 06:16:15 DBP, Sirmoll and others in their rank of BoB do not really give two craps about the OP....
Of course his information is correct.... as he's said, he probably has up to date information on today and loads of it. Again, does anyone of the alliance leaders care? No. For what reasons, though?
1: They don't know exactly what information has been aquired untill the obvious effects of such shared information takes place.
2: It's just a game.
So all I have to say is that the only people thet really care are people who are interested in the war and people not high on the chain of either side...
I think it's quite interesting to be honest... but the high end people on all the alliances will never care, because they deal with spying every day and can do nothing about it.
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Farham
Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.26 06:24:00 -
[145]
Quote: For someone in no way involved with LV, both on the battlefield or otherwise, you seem like you know what you're talking about.
I think the OP's point was *they will soon*.
If other intel that is leaking out of my now nearly defunct alliance is true, early 2007 will make what just happened at the end of 2006 in Eve look like childs play.
Get ready for ugliness on a game wide scale.
PS. some of the upcoming NAPs sure will be funny

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Miss Overlord
Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.12.26 06:30:00 -
[146]
hey who cares u can expect bob to do what they want to do.
These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.26 06:46:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Grow some balls and post like a man, not a child.
You are not in position to comment about my balls. I never traited my allies, and never called them 'pile of dog turd'.
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Maria Ravenwind
Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.26 06:55:00 -
[148]
Lol. Geez, people dont seem to understand.
Everyone knows that BoB is not afraid to fight, otherwise they wouldn't do going around all arrogant like.
Now what BoB are afraid of is losing.
The heads of BoB like to give off this sense of invicibility. They establish this in the battlefield (very well, I might add) and in the forums via their Forum Warriors.
Now, BoB has been doing an incredible job both on the forums and in space. As far as I can see, their downfall will be their own sense of invicibility.
The OP's information is most likely useless and to no point, but the reaction that he has recieved from the BoB heads and the BoB non-heads is priceless. The OP has managed to expose BoB's one weakness: themselves.
BoB will fall, eventually.
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.26 06:58:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Evil Thug You are not in position to comment about my balls.
Of course not; Omeega told me they don't exist 
Originally by: Evil Thug I never traited my allies, and never called them 'pile of dog turd'.
Nor did I.
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Riley Craven
Caldari Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 08:20:00 -
[150]
Originally by: LuthienTinuviel
Originally by: Kryztal I think dbp just told you that we dont care what you think. We have the proof but its a game and in the end will be forgotten in a couple of weeks so move on.
Indeed it is and I am very well aware that what I am saying probably matters not at all to DBP or yourself... what I was taking umbrage at was the accusation of a criminal offence in RL of another player in CAOD forum without any proof forthcoming other than "hearsay". Being absolutely honest neither the accusation nor the proof should be furnished here but instead should be taken up with relevant RL authorities if such a case was valid.
Whats funny about all this libel stuff is that its not libel since the OP admitted to the whole world that he did indeed hack our forums.
I guess perhaps he is not aware of what it means to hack, because guessing peopl's passwords "i.e. bob4tw" is a form of hacking.
Sadly, like all common sense posts in this forum this one will just get lost like all the rest of the mess of stupidity...
Regardless what anyone thinks about this issue, as usuall they are wrong.
We dont cry about using spy's. Frankly it would be foolish to assume that any allaince in this game doesnt have its fair share of spies.
The difference is that we as BoB play the game to its fullest, WITHIN the confines of the game. Hacking and explioiting is not something we do or have ever done regardless of what you think.
We have alawys admitted to fighting use every tool we have in our ability, hacking again is not one of them.
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KIATheClash
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.26 09:45:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Lowa
Originally by: slip66
Originally by: KIATheClash
Originally by: Lowa
Originally by: KIATheClash Said stuff
Yo Clash, long time no see! 
Cheers, Lowa
Maybe sometime soon for good again 
Depends on what teh judge tells after erhm dui 
been there sucks, life goes on.. Save money its expensive! Dont do it again!
Next time you think of doing something like that try and remember this name:
Rampage (Andrew Lance)
He aint here no more coz someone though dui was a good idea. Neither is a few friends of mine.
/Lowa
The worst part about it is they catched me while i wanted to park the car in a street where theres less chance on getting it wrecked by " vandals " and call then call a cab for teh ride home cuz .. idd i drank to much for driving .
Talk bout bad luck .
ps : it was a 100 m drive  Mods this is currently my main .
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 09:50:00 -
[152]
OMG, It's awesome to see how BoB haters can be feeded with nothing and still have that imagination to post nonsense crap.
BoB, like Five (in old times), works assuming forums, TS and ingame chat are compromised. Nothing important is written in any place, that's simple.
Now we got Mr Bean that post things ppl allready know for a month or 2, without contexts and dates (we saw shakaz explaining his log part and credit of the chatlog vanished...).
Then we got D2's dancing on the floor : omg BoB is scared of us. I must say LOL1!1.
Then we have Kugutsumen that is trying to make RAGOONAAAD2 attack before we finish ASCN blablabla. Well Kugutsumen, BoB is prepared to a lot of things. BoB didnt show all its power, by far. BoB predicts allways 2 or 3 moves ahead like a good HC does. And they do it somewhere u can't spy.
There is a lot of secrets that you would sell your mother for, but well, that's not the pieces you wrote there that have no real value at all.
BoB is scared of nothing, we are just bored of the easy mode.
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.26 10:10:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Marko Debreault Here's my personal conspiracy theory!
Outbreak's Killboard was hacked just a little while ago. Some tard deleted all our capital ship and command ship kills, and some others besides.
The password was changed to 'bob4tw'. We thought that was a bit too obvious and never really suspected BoB as an entity, or even any individual within BoB. It seemed to me it was probably just some random kiddie, and the faked password was silliness.
But lo and behold, here comes another fellow guessing passwords and going where he shouldn't. Could he be the same culprit? On the surface there's no real reason to think so. Clever kiddies and bored adults are a dime a dozen.
But then he says, "Btw bob has to stop the libel... I used social engineering and hypnosis and no hacking is required... when half of the morons in your alliance use bob4tw as a password."
bob4tw coming up again. Is there a connection? Is it true that bob members use 'bob4tw' as a password, and might have hacked Outbreaks killboard? Or . . . could Klugutsman be the hacker, and now he's trying to push Outbreak towards taking a position against BoB?
Should Outbreak avenge their hacked killboard by attacking BoB? Should we try to figure out who Kulugmtenasn is and hunt him down and tickle his toes until he confesses? Should we continue to gather clues, wait until the time is ripe and we know more, and then pounce? Or should we shrug and move on? Find out in the next episode of 'As the forums update!'
Marko they really use "bob4tw" as password ive been told that by several ppl who have had access to their forums, its like their standard password.
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Mahrin Skel
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.26 10:28:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Bobbeh Ask Cyvok, We broke his Cynonet once.
So did we. Almost got the carriers, too. I might be the only covert ops pilot ever to be uncloaked by having a Carrier pilot cyno-jump right on top of him. I literally bounced off the carrier.
--Dave
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DeWieKat
Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.26 10:47:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Originally by: Evil Thug You are not in position to comment about my balls.
Of course not; Omeega told me they don't exist
and u¦re telling people about being childish... read ur answer again and ask urself how old u are.

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Robert Dobbs
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 10:58:00 -
[156]
Originally by: DeWieKat
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Originally by: Evil Thug You are not in position to comment about my balls.
Of course not; Omeega told me they don't exist
and u¦re telling people about being childish... read ur answer again and ask urself how old u are.

Honestly, didn't you get the memo? You're supposed to be flaming BoB in this thread, not each other :( -
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DeWieKat
Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.26 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Dobbs
Originally by: DeWieKat
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Originally by: Evil Thug You are not in position to comment about my balls.
Of course not; Omeega told me they don't exist
and u¦re telling people about being childish... read ur answer again and ask urself how old u are.

Honestly, didn't you get the memo? You're supposed to be flaming BoB in this thread, not each other :(
was i flaming?
iam such a nice guy, i wouldnt dare...

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OozoO
Caldari Decadence. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.26 11:31:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Kasak Black *** FORUM WARRIORS TO THE READY ***
ay! always at your service, sir! 
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Nifel
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 11:31:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Kasak Black *** FORUM WARRIORS TO THE READY ***
WE HAVE A FLAME WAR HERE!
WITTY REMARK QUESTIONING YOUR SEXUALITY!
"When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: Sama |

Zylatis
AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2006.12.26 11:35:00 -
[160]
i like the taste of blue
on an unrelated matter, i think yall underestimate the germanic efficiency of D2 :)
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Smith
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 11:37:00 -
[161]
You know what...this could be the end of BOB. 
WE ARE DOOMED THE SKY IS FALLING IN.
Forum warriors CAN win EvE....honest.
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Razor Jaxx
Fate.
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Posted - 2006.12.26 11:40:00 -
[162]
If the OP had had marketing flair and a sense for the sensational, he would have labeled this thread "Nice forum, we'll take it".
Fun read though, especially the replies.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord once the ASCN war is over BOB are going to need new targets and as they like to crush the larger but perhaps less organised alliances this includes RAGOON, d2 and perhaps some of the fountain mobs.
LV less likley as they have a long war against RAGOON if bob crush RAGOON then LV could be next.
BOB probably wont ally with RAGOON.
IF i was LV i would be actually streamlining youre corps and also recruiting more cap ship pilots also look at perhaps picking up some of the better organised and committed ASCN members im talking experienced combat pilots basically those that might be looking for something 0.0 and strong but more organised than ASCN was.
I doubt that we would work with ragoon tbh becasue of all that stuff awhile back with goons, and atuk from 5, now dice aren't exactly in love with the red's. You keep trying to be an armchair general but i don't recall seeing or hearing about you in any alliance conflict's.
Idea's and all that is cool but it's all guesswork that anyone could come up with tbh.
How exactly did you come to earn the space your currently inhabit?
BoB lite let them keep it when they surrendered to us and stabbed Xetic between the shoulderblades.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.12.26 11:50:00 -
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i make observations comments and suggestions of which are for discussion purposes only remember BOB dont make their decisions based on what anyone here says i dont think u nless sirmolle and co do it on purpose to make the game totally nuts.
All good tho everyone will have fun and the production guys in empire will make a killing mineral prices continue to rise as we speak
These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 11:52:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Razor Jaxx If the OP had had marketing flair and a sense for the sensational, he would have labeled this thread "Nice forum, we'll take it".
Fun read though, especially the replies.

The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 12:10:00 -
[166]
Originally by: LuthienTinuviel
You brought RL into it by accusing another player of Hacking into your forums in RL yet you say it has no place here... err okay have your cake and eat it I don't particularly care about this thread other than the fact that a) it is lame (as I said previously posting from private forum is lame) and that b) you brought Real Life (not in character or in game)slander into it, anyway as you don't care about it and don't wish to provide any proof then I think we can take your accusation as what it was a pile of steaming crap.
Comprehend, understand, realise, dissapear into insignificance.
The Blue Pill
So has anyone found a use for the information they garned from this thread?
Will we know be coming under attack?
Has this thread meant that the rest of eve has found thier desire for some serious graft or shall we come back from xmas holidays and spend another year laughing in the face of the rest of eve?
Why do I feel it's the latter 
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Miss Overlord
Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.12.26 12:44:00 -
[167]
nah u wont be attacked but we know BOB play off one alliacne against another to suit their purposes
These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.12.26 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Kugutsumen on 26/12/2006 13:25:16 Bob strategy against Celestial Apocalypse:
Quote:
Fountain Code Factory Lockdown
Edit: The plan was originally for goons, but I would suggest that with Fountain core being home to poachers, It's time to make the fountain core into dead stati ons by locking all the factories for 120 days.
When we're 'back' we can simply un-lock them again.
[*] 30 Day queues Per Station [*] 1m m3 Haulage (100m Trit + 50 Shuttle BPOs) [*] 200m ISK [*] 10 Characters
Results in 30k shuttles
Assumptions
[*]All 50 slots in the stations are empty and have to be added +30 days. [*]Shuttle BPO is ME:0 [*]Trit cost 2/unit [*]Factory slot costs not included [*]Producing Characters have 2 Skills (Probably any PvPer): [*]Mass Production: IV (Req. Industry III) [*]Industry: Up to Level V (Industry skill is counter-productive) [*]Production Efficiency: 0
I think that this is the third time I am saying this. The original post was just a teaser; I have tons of interesting bob director threads which I keep for my paying customers and allies.
Band of Brothers' site is still down... so we'll have to wait for fresh intel and don't worry there will be more to come.
Special thanks to the members of Goonfleet, D2 and ASCN for the generous donations... 300M to go and I'll release some more bob ****.
Kugutsumen
-- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" |

Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.26 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Electric Cucumber who wouldn't be afraid of AAA+d2+ra+goon+lv+this +that
ME!!!
High/Low -Sec & 0.0 PvP Recruitment |

Xendie
Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.26 13:44:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Kugutsumen Edited by: Kugutsumen on 26/12/2006 13:25:16 Bob strategy against Celestial Apocalypse:
Quote:
Fountain Code Factory Lockdown
Edit: The plan was originally for goons, but I would suggest that with Fountain core being home to poachers, It's time to make the fountain core into dead stati ons by locking all the factories for 120 days.
When we're 'back' we can simply un-lock them again.
[*] 30 Day queues Per Station [*] 1m m3 Haulage (100m Trit + 50 Shuttle BPOs) [*] 200m ISK [*] 10 Characters
Results in 30k shuttles
Assumptions
[*]All 50 slots in the stations are empty and have to be added +30 days. [*]Shuttle BPO is ME:0 [*]Trit cost 2/unit [*]Factory slot costs not included [*]Producing Characters have 2 Skills (Probably any PvPer): [*]Mass Production: IV (Req. Industry III) [*]Industry: Up to Level V (Industry skill is counter-productive) [*]Production Efficiency: 0
I think that this is the third time I am saying this. The original post was just a teaser; I have tons of interesting bob director threads which I keep for my paying customers and allies.
Band of Brothers' site is still down... so we'll have to wait for fresh intel and don't worry there will be more to come.
Special thanks to the members of Goonfleet, D2 and ASCN for the generous donations... 300M to go and I'll release some more bob ****.
Kugutsumen
hahaha funny stuff so thats bob's amazing wtfpwn strategy against celest hahahahahaha
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Great Guardian
Minmatar Resurrection
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Posted - 2006.12.26 13:55:00 -
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OP please email me in game. I am very interested to see censored parts and more.
/cheers GG
" I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Hah! Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams, glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments.... will |

Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.26 13:57:00 -
[172]
we use ICQ.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Ceratin
ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.26 14:00:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Kasak Black *** FORUM WARRIORS TO THE READY ***
Did someone shout me? :D ------------
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kugutsumen Edited by: Kugutsumen on 26/12/2006 13:51:46
Bob strategy against Celestial Apocalypse: **snip: this deserve its own thread.
I think that this is the third time I am saying this. The original post was just a teaser; I have tons of interesting bob director threads which I keep for my paying customers and allies.
Band of Brothers' site is still down... so we'll have to wait for fresh intel and don't worry there will be more to come.
Special thanks to the members of Goonfleet, D2 and ASCN for the generous donations... 300M to go and I'll release some more bob ****.
Kugutsumen
You said in your new thread with the new ( LOL ) intel that you had gotten 200m, i guess it's hard to keep track of all the fib's? The forum's are down while it's being secured against the hacking attack.
How exactly did you come to earn the space your currently inhabit?
BoB lite let them keep it when they surrendered to us and stabbed Xetic between the shoulderblades.
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.12.26 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59 You said in your new thread with the new ( LOL ) intel that you had gotten 200m, i guess it's hard to keep track of all the fib's?
He also didn't say that he got more than 200m in this thread, just that he wants 300m more. Reading 4tw.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: fire 59 You said in your new thread with the new ( LOL ) intel that you had gotten 200m, i guess it's hard to keep track of all the fib's?
He also didn't say that he got more than 200m in this thread, just that he wants 300m more. Reading 4tw.
Sigh, hangover's 4tw.
How exactly did you come to earn the space your currently inhabit?
BoB lite let them keep it when they surrendered to us and stabbed Xetic between the shoulderblades.
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Calisto Cody
Minmatar The Black Swan Society
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Posted - 2006.12.26 14:46:00 -
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i just have the image of a really camp super villan cackling in his lair
Grimkill > He said . . .. I don't know why you wear a bra; you've got nothing to put in it. <br>She said .. . You wear pants don't you?
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j0sephine
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.26 15:36:00 -
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"I think that this is the third time I am saying this. The original post was just a teaser; I have tons of interesting bob director threads which I keep for my paying customers and allies.
Band of Brothers' site is still down... so we'll have to wait for fresh intel and don't worry there will be more to come."
Nice wording but let's be honest here; the only reason anyone with half a brain would draw attention to the fact they have access to interesting forum is... their access was already discovered and shut. Since there's no option of new intel, best one can do is advertise relatively fresh stuff in hope it tricks gullible people into paying for more of the 'same old' you could've gathered up to now.
"Special thanks to the members of Goonfleet, D2 and ASCN for the generous donations..."
Seeing how ASCN command and propaganda division is working hard to play the "EVE is in downward spiral because community sucks and h4xxors other people's stuff" tune, to claim some of their own members would give money to someone who does exactly the thing they officially complain about... well, that's rather heavy accusation. Any chance to see some names, screenshots or any other sort of proof to back this one up..? :s
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