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SuperJyinn
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Posted - 2006.12.27 09:58:00 -
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I predict that prices on all ships will continue to drop. Less ships are getting destroyed with warp to zero so the supply of ships being produced will exceed demand.
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Ralara
Caldari
Reunited
O X I D E
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Posted - 2006.12.27 10:23:00 -
[62]
 Originally by: El Marchetto
The South (BoB MC LV etc) are hoarding HACs for a massive war with the North (D2 RAZOR IRON etc), who are also hoarding HACs for the same reason.
We don't need to hoard HACs, little does BoB know, but the North actually has 58 titans already built.
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Majutsu
Caldari
S.Y.N.D
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Posted - 2006.12.27 10:34:00 -
[63]
Eagles have gone up over the last 2 weeks where I live 
Caldari Gunboat Pilot
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Hehulk
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.27 10:39:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Majutsu
Eagles have gone up over the last 2 weeks where I live
Really? I saw a few in metropolis last night for 110 mil (give or take)
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.27 10:43:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Midshipman
Eductaed Opinion
Pwned tbh
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Majutsu
Caldari
S.Y.N.D
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Posted - 2006.12.27 10:55:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Hehulk
Originally by: Majutsu
Eagles have gone up over the last 2 weeks where I live
Really? I saw a few in metropolis last night for 110 mil (give or take)
LOL
Well, they're up to 93/94 mill
They were at 85 for quite a while
Metropolis eh? Hmmmm
Caldari Gunboat Pilot
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Vanguard Frontiers
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.27 11:04:00 -
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Joe Newbie goes to town.
He sees only one takeaway, which charges 200mil isk per kebab. He has no choice but to buy kebabs.
Another takeaway opens up next door, selling burgers at 50mil isk.
Joe used to buy the kebabs, and although he likes the kebabs better, he decides to spend his money on burgers. He knows that at the end of the day, the kebab and the burger will end up down the toilet. Some people even think the burger is better than the kebab, but Joe relises that the burgershop is hurting the kebabshop.
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Malakai0
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.27 12:32:00 -
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Here's a revalation of mine people seem to be missing (well except those who've been raking in rediculous profits off HAC sales):
HAC's SHOULD be way cheaper than they have been, 100m absolute max is fair. And why SHOULDNT hacs be able to be owned by tier II battlecruisers? The things are far slower and twice the size or more of hacs.
Hacs still rock, I fly and love eagles in fleets and gatecamps, but I've never flown a cerb due to rediculous overpricedness. Now I might actually start flying them in PVP (I wanna use the cerb as a fast close range heavy assault boat).
For all us alliance pvpers, this is nothing but good news. Means we're both gonna get to fly hacs in pvp way more often, and gonna get to loot their wrecks way more often (and more variety is good right?).
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Joe
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Posted - 2006.12.27 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
Joe used to buy the kebabs, and although he likes the kebabs better, he decides to spend his money on burgers. He knows that at the end of the day, the kebab and the burger will end up down the toilet. Some people even think the burger is better than the kebab, but Joe relises that the burgershop is hurting the kebabshop.
Here in South Oz they're called Yiros's, not kebabs, and becuase i prefer them over burgers id still save up and buy them. I dont care if the burgers cheaper.
The Yiros store can operate aslong as they keep producing a superior product. Having competetion making 2nd class food probably doesn't even bother them.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Ferrum Pugnus
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.12.27 13:29:00 -
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prices are adjusting those that paid over the odds for the BPOs off the market are the only ones up in arms then again they had the profits now its time for some realistic pricing
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.27 13:38:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Midshipman
True, but what is stopping you from mounting smaller weapons on your Eve battleship? Drones could also be the equivilent of secondary armament.
Weapon space. In EVE a big BS class weapon takes as much space as a small frigate class weapon. From a "realistic" viewpoint you should be able to mount multiple small guns in the room normally occupied with one big gun.
Of cource it would utterly kill game balance, so it wouldn't be a good idea for eve. But it's not something "realistic".
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Ishmael Hansen
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.27 13:44:00 -
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Imo the reason is solely the new bc's and people starting to buy command ships, tho I think the new bc's are more effective then the command for the isk they cost. Invention is fubered, borked, whatever you wanna call it, it's a joke. But the new bc's rock.
Too bad that to fit a ship with tech 2 I will have to spend as much as I would pay for a cerb tho :(
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Vanguard Frontiers
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.27 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/12/2006 13:51:08
Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/12/2006 13:49:34
Originally by: Joe
Originally by: Lord WarATron
Joe used to buy the kebabs, and although he likes the kebabs better, he decides to spend his money on burgers. He knows that at the end of the day, the kebab and the burger will end up down the toilet. Some people even think the burger is better than the kebab, but Joe relises that the burgershop is hurting the kebabshop.
Here in South Oz they're called Yiros's, not kebabs, and becuase i prefer them over burgers id still save up and buy them. I dont care if the burgers cheaper.
The Yiros store can operate aslong as they keep producing a superior product. Having competetion making 2nd class food probably doesn't even bother them.
Making 2nd class food wont bother them, but it does mean that Joe Newbie who is going to pvp till shiploss, has another option. Most eve players look at value for money, and the new BC are value for money.
Rich PVPers just want the best, so they will probebly stick with hacs for now.
I say this as a HAC pilot and a BC pilot. If I can afford to throw away 300mil (HAC + t2 fitout) every hour then I would choose the hac. I can, however, afford to throw away a BC + t2 fitout.
Of course, the fact I own the BPO should not mean I am biased in any way. BC + t1 fitout is profit due to insurance for me, but thats another story 
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PirateShampoo
S.A.S
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2006.12.27 15:21:00 -
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I'd say ur wrong, i just checked the market for jita and surrounding systems and there 50+ vagabounds for sale all going from 230-300 mill each so its not supply meeting demand its sellers and resellers still trying to line there pockets.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Vanguard Frontiers
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.27 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/12/2006 15:24:56
Originally by: PirateShampoo
I'd say ur wrong, i just checked the market for jita and surrounding systems and there 50+ vagabounds for sale all going from 230-300 mill each so its not supply meeting demand its sellers and resellers still trying to line there pockets.
I know - Its excellent. Means more BC/BS sales at 30% margins for me.
Now ask yourself why there is 50+ vaga's stacked up? People not buying them?
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Harisdrop
Gallente
ClanKillers
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.27 15:24:00 -
[76]
Wait till bc get thier rigs on......
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Butter Dog
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.27 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: PirateShampoo
I'd say ur wrong, i just checked the market for jita and surrounding systems and there 50+ vagabounds for sale all going from 230-300 mill each so its not supply meeting demand its sellers and resellers still trying to line there pockets.
Lets see how long they sit on the market not being sold.
Not so long ago, you could not buy a Vagabond in Jita for love nor money.
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Thousand Fluffles
Off Balance Sheet Entity
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Posted - 2006.12.29 03:27:00 -
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I think the reasons are threefold...
- Tier 2 BC and even Tier 3 BS are giving high-SP pilots a few new toys to try out. Once the novelty wears off, some will no doubt return to HACs. Others may find they have more fun in a Tier 2 BC which performs the same except for agility, at 1/3 of the total cost.
- WCS nerf - people were willing to pay stupid prices for Vagabonds and Zealots because they knew they could pick their fights and run away from any fight that turned bad. Now that 2-4 WCS are not a viable option, many users no longer wish to run the increased risk.
- Recon cruisers and command ships are cheaper, and ever-increasing numbers of people are training the skills to fly them.
I sold my HACs at the peak of their value a while back. And I doubt it's a short-term blip, because the effects of any game change which give players greater choice are usually permanent.
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Sgt Blade
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.29 04:11:00 -
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either way, if this is long term then its all good whatever reason it is that HAC's wil go down in price and then more people can get a chance to fly one, there only a t2 cruiser but used to cost way more then t2 BC's and even fully fitted t2 bs's
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