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var'ulfur
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Posted - 2003.11.27 17:45:00 -
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i have to say i will fly only a blackbird from now on. did a little test. went to low sec space whith just the bird 3 afterburners and two unnamed mods. ran into tank and his cronies they had drones out and other things at a jump in point. and they could not even lock me before my bird just warped out of thier grasp.
i think the blackbird has the fastest turn rate in the game and it makes it very hard to lock before you get away?? and with the right mods she can run 3 250 rails all day pluse mods to boot so in my book the bird is king of cruisers.
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Rohann
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Posted - 2003.11.27 17:50:00 -
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Yes the blackbird is very nice and if set up correctly it can take out a battleship.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.11.27 17:51:00 -
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If the birdie doesn't jam the target, it's dead.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Black Lung
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Posted - 2003.11.27 17:55:00 -
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Awesome ship, it has the best agility.
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.27 18:00:00 -
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Always been my fav ship even out of all the clases. A truely Caldari ship
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Slinky Redfoot
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Posted - 2003.11.27 18:32:00 -
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I'd take a Caracal or Thorax over a blackbird any day.
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Rohann
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Posted - 2003.11.27 18:34:00 -
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You would die really fast too.
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Othnark
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Posted - 2003.11.27 18:39:00 -
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Yes the BB has some awesome agility. Try flying it on chaos though, it has been fixed and now handles much more like a cow.
Kind of a pi.sser if you ask me. -Othnark
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Mandros Aslay
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Posted - 2003.11.27 18:52:00 -
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Blackbird rocks ........
slap the mwd on it and train lev5 ...see that baby go....
And the Caracal...nice for deliveries.......
Of torps and heavies.....(working on the cruise)
I tend to scout these pirate points to see what they are in .....alot of Blackbirds in Sarum there was......
oh well back to being podded...what a death life is ...........
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.27 18:54:00 -
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Quote: Yes the blackbird is very nice and if set up correctly it can take out a battleship.
No it can't.
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Earthan
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Posted - 2003.11.27 18:57:00 -
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Well for taking a bs alone its a bit to far, but still its the most agile ship in game with 6 med slots its awesome for scouting or passing through campers so they dont even notice you were here.
I loved it, used it alot.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.11.27 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 27/11/2003 19:08:25 The BB really isn¦t the best cruiser at all. It¦s just the shipclass balance that makes it the only cruiser worth using.
With upcoming changes to targeting speed and EW the other cruisers and frigates will come back into play, having more of an opportunity to show their strength as they¦re no longer standing directly in the shadow of their battleship-variants.
BB might be the best EW cruiser, but 2 Griffins and an Incursus or 3 Merlins easily kill it when the pilots are paying attention.
Currently these types of fights simply don¦t happen because both cruisers and frigs are instantly destroyed once a battleship shows up. I just hope CCP hurry up with balancing the shipclasses because to me, flying battleships is nothing but a pain in the ass. I never wanted to fly battleships in the game, I hate them tbh.
Fighting in a battleship is so boring... it¦s so slow. You only get to fight once every now and then because nobody likes to lose those 90m isk behemoths which is perfectly understandeable as nobody likes to mine for days on end just to replace his/her ship. With frigates and cruisers this isn¦t a problem. You could fight all day long if you¦re in a war or something, patrolling your area in your beloved frig, looking out for the enemy. People wouldn¦t be scared to go into fights as they know that all they can lose is implants and their clone. Yeah, losing implants sucks but who cares? If you¦re a fighter you just don¦t buy implants or fight good enough so you don¦t lose them And if the demand rises for implants they¦ll become cheaper, too. But still I¦d rather not have my implants and enjoy fighting all day long instead of sitting in that battleship, suffering a heartattack every time the threat window pops up
I mean... if I think about starting completely anew... man I wouldn¦t. I¦d have to train my character at least two months in order to even participate in any form of PvP And even then it¦s still not worth it as you don¦t stand a chance towards skilled pilots. I think every newb out there deserves to be a viable part of a corporation¦s fleet with a decent frigate or cruiser.
So to put this to an end:
Yes, the Blackbird currently is the best cruiser in the game... but ONLY because it¦s the only non-battleship capable of surviving an encounter with one of them.
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John Zeppe
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Posted - 2003.11.27 19:03:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Yes the blackbird is very nice and if set up correctly it can take out a battleship.
No it can't.
Yes it can... ... if the battleship pilot doesn't know what he's doing. I don't know about armageddons though. Hmm. No missiles, only drones, which you have to launch *before* you get your ass jammed.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.27 19:05:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
Quote: Yes the blackbird is very nice and if set up correctly it can take out a battleship.
No it can't.
Yes it can... ... if the battleship pilot doesn't know what he's doing. I don't know about armageddons though. Hmm. No missiles, only drones, which you have to launch *before* you get your ass jammed.
It can still outfit an MWD for longer than a blackbird can while it is using MWD + ECM to jam it.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2003.11.27 19:08:00 -
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Prefer the Moa, myself.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.27 19:11:00 -
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I'd rate the Maller above the Moa, to be honest.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.11.27 19:16:00 -
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Rupture. 3 launchers, 3 turrets, speed, armor, shields and drones
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Zarthan
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Posted - 2003.11.27 19:16:00 -
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done it exactly 5 times now josh it sure as heck can take a bs. Just need a full load of ammo and to fight somone who's not a logger which is an exploit of game mechanics imo. _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.27 19:17:00 -
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Quote: Rupture. 3 launchers, 3 turrets, speed, armor, shields and drones
Definitely a possibility - flew one of them for the first time 10 days ago and I was very impressed.
One of the few cruisers which has a noticable improvement when your skills are high.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.27 19:21:00 -
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Quote: done it exactly 5 times now josh it sure as heck can take a bs. Just need a full load of ammo and to fight somone who's not a logger which is an exploit of game mechanics imo.
I'm not calling you a liar but I'll take that statement more seriously when a BS pilot comes forward and admits it happened to him
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.11.27 19:26:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: done it exactly 5 times now josh it sure as heck can take a bs. Just need a full load of ammo and to fight somone who's not a logger which is an exploit of game mechanics imo.
I'm not calling you a liar but I'll take that statement more seriously when a BS pilot comes forward and admits it happened to him
I'm at a loss on the statement myself tho. Blackbird is a good ship. But unless the battleship pilot never heard of "FoF Cruise Missiles" or "Drones" it's just not something I see without an extraordinary bbird pilot having an extremely good day.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.27 19:29:00 -
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Yup, you have to think that a BB kitted out purely to jam a BS and maintain cap wouldn't have much space for shield boosting. Wouldn't take many F.O.F's to get the BB a smidge worried.
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Rohann
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Posted - 2003.11.27 19:35:00 -
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Quote: I'm not calling you a liar but I'll take that statement more seriously when a BS pilot comes forward and admits it happened to him
That will never happen
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.11.27 21:16:00 -
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Thorax with ebil drones takes out a battleship miner any time of the year. MWD or no MWD.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Jael Markinsen
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Posted - 2003.11.27 21:17:00 -
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yep, just like jash and josh said, only two things i don't like about blackbirds is:
"FOF Cruise and Drones".
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Kurtz
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Posted - 2003.11.27 21:45:00 -
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The Blackbird is the best cruiser in the game, if you are not planning on engaging targets.
The description of the ship, even says it too.
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.11.27 21:55:00 -
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its all about the blend...
personally, i think the rupture is the best pvp cruiser and the thorax the best miner/npc farmer, but i wouldn't fly a rupture into battle without a BB pilot for the EW. so its vital, but not the best. -------------------------------------------- Dead
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Capn Blood
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Posted - 2003.11.27 22:07:00 -
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To be honest EVE combat = mid slots at the minute.
All things being equal...the guy with the most mid slots will win.
So much for tactics an' all that other guff ============================================== "Trust no man who says to you that 'The ends justify the means' or who says that 'We will do whatever it takes...'. These men have no honour, and are fit only to be politicians."
The book of Rab Chapter 1, Verse 3. ============================================== |
Alfius Togra
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Posted - 2003.11.27 22:29:00 -
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im sorry but thor is the best cruiser in the game ./game
why?
well ill tell u my load out, 4 250 rails which with the rite ammo can deal with stuff from 5ks to 45ks, a small smartbomb to beast any missiles or drones that come my way
a medium shield booster and depending on what im upto either cargo scanner and ship scanner or armour and hull repairers
low slot wise i have a few cpus to let me run the rails and a load of overdrives so im no slouch.
thats on top of 5 wasps and 3 ogres in my drone bay.
normally when im ratting for 30k rats i have only 1 rail fitted and let my drones do all the work while i sit there picking up the loot and having a good laff at how uver 1337 my drones are and how i dont even have to lock my targets b4 the drones waste em .........
sorry but the bb really doesnt compare
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Stoop
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Posted - 2003.11.27 22:49:00 -
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Caracal is the best cruiser in game. You can kill any turret based cruiser with it very effectively given the right modules.
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