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AmarrTournament1o1
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.15 19:16:35 -
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Like this : http://eve-files.com/tools/dice/
CCP's logic at its best again.
If you didn't received a mail monday 12th,(within 12 hrs of the deadline o.O) then you are not going to play in the Amarr Championship. We are currently taking bets on how many PL teams are in the tournament 1, 3 or 5?
(answer is 3) |
Cable Uta
Questionable Circles Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2015.10.16 01:44:44 -
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If this is the case then I guess CCP has just been super lazy and rolled a dice for the people getting spots.
Clearly not thought it through properly |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2264
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Posted - 2015.10.16 06:14:38 -
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AmarrTournament1o1 wrote: Second bet is how many teams Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris has 1, 3 or 5?
(answer is also 3)
I know for a fact that you're wrong on this
Yonis Ardishapur for Emperor
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Ascentior
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
209
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Posted - 2015.10.16 07:06:38 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:AmarrTournament1o1 wrote: Second bet is how many teams Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris has 1, 3 or 5?
(answer is also 3)
I know for a fact that you're wrong on this You should definitely make a bet!
Admiral of PIE Inc.,
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris (See 'PIE Public' for recruitment)
Honorary Fabricator-General of the Imperial Navy
Chosen by God to serve the Empire.
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2438
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Posted - 2015.10.16 08:06:55 -
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AmarrTournament1o1 wrote:Gotta love unlogical picking of teams for this. Even from an RP standpoint why take a group of people with no history of tournament experience over someone with? After all you want to win and become the new emperor / empress no?
I'd say the opposite. Why would an heir take a group of mercenaries with no history of supporting Amarr ever over people who have proven loyalty to the Empire and the house? There is more at stake than just victory, there is also reputation and honor of the house to consider, and those outlive any one emperor.
Quote:also from another RP standpoint, wouldn't it be logical that if an heir had picked a team from one alliance that another heir would NOT pick from the same alliance as their champions?
Only if that alliance has a clear history of supporting one house in particular.
The heirs are looking for Champions. That is, a singular person who stands not only as a warrior, but also as a symbol of the house. A dishonorable choice implies a dishonorable house, and would stain the house's reputation. If we were going super strict and counting reddit posts, Elise Randolph's offer to fight for the Minmatar militia would be a mark against her/PL as I see it. The more mercenary houses (like Khanid and Tash-Murkon) might be realistically willing to overlook that kind of thing, as they are already looked poorly on and don't care how they stack the deck, but the more traditional houses certainly wouldn't appreciate it. I don't think this is something CCP would be counting though as reddit is not an in-character medium, but similar conduct in-game would surely have an impact because it reflects poorly on the house.
Yonis Ardishapur for Emperor
"Reclaim our Empire"
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AmarrTournament1o1
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:49:51 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:AmarrTournament1o1 wrote:Gotta love unlogical picking of teams for this. Even from an RP standpoint why take a group of people with no history of tournament experience over someone with? After all you want to win and become the new emperor / empress no? I'd say the opposite. Why would an heir take a group of mercenaries with no history of supporting Amarr ever over people who have proven loyalty to the Empire and the house? There is more at stake than just victory, there is also reputation and honor of the house to consider, and those outlive any one emperor. Quote:also from another RP standpoint, wouldn't it be logical that if an heir had picked a team from one alliance that another heir would NOT pick from the same alliance as their champions? Only if that alliance has a clear history of supporting one house in particular. The heirs are looking for people who stand not only as warriors, but also as symbols of the house. A dishonorable choice implies a dishonorable house, and would stain the house's reputation. It's a scale, and combat ability is only one half of it. It is balanced against the political benefits or ramifications of the candidate. Some houses might put more weight on the combat ability, while others on the political factors.
So you're telling me that if you were the heir of a massive kingdom, & you had to chose a champion. You would choose a random loyal peasant over the knight known throughout the world for his combat capability etc. ? |
AmarrTournament1o1
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 11:21:48 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:AmarrTournament1o1 wrote: Second bet is how many teams Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris has 1, 3 or 5?
(answer is also 3)
That would surprise me if true - let's wait and see
Well in case you didn't know there is a list of all the captains already made since monday afternoon.
I have chosen not to release it here out of respect for their privacy untill CCP does their release, but clearly the picking process is a joke when 2 alliances can get a combined 6 teams in. |
o0kaboom0o
Bikini Bottom Ultras
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Posted - 2015.10.16 12:34:46 -
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Some ppl recived mails after 24h. CCP was giving a **** on RP. I thought its what you need to do. Next time i also just link my pvp videos. Holy F*ck. |
JubbadahuT
Bikini Bottom Ultras
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Posted - 2015.10.16 12:40:43 -
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This is the biggest bullshit i have ever seen...we tryed to push our standings...made vidoes...f**K YOU CCCP
3 PL teams....you are the ****....i hate you |
Tzuko1
FREE GATES FREE GATES COALITION
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Posted - 2015.10.16 13:49:18 -
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I dont gert it also, we applied with just 1 guy from us so we not run with multiple teams :) you got nothing out of it obviusly. I should have send in all my dudes with a different apply i guess :) |
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2439
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Posted - 2015.10.16 14:03:11 -
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AmarrTournament1o1 wrote:So you're telling me that if you were the heir of a massive kingdom, & you had to chose a champion. You would choose a random loyal peasant over the knight known throughout the world for his combat capability etc. ?
No, I would choose a loyal knight known for their combat capability. Not an untrained peasant, and not a disloyal mercenary.
Again, there's a balance between skill (which is determined by, among other things, the pvp videos included in the application) and political validity (determined partially by the argument made in the app and partially by proven track record). Some houses favor skill more than politics, others favor politics more than skill.
Yonis Ardishapur for Emperor
"Reclaim our Empire"
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AmarrTournament1o1
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 14:05:58 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:AmarrTournament1o1 wrote:So you're telling me that if you were the heir of a massive kingdom, & you had to chose a champion. You would choose a random loyal peasant over the knight known throughout the world for his combat capability etc. ? No, I would choose a loyal knight known for their combat capability. Not an untrained peasant, and not a disloyal mercenary. Again, there's a balance between skill (which is determined by, among other things, the pvp videos included in the application) and political validity (determined partially by the argument made in the app and partially by proven track record). Some houses favor skill more than politics, others favor politics more than skill.
So you're teling me killmails of a person baiting with a mining barge & then drops 30 friends through portal on 1 guys is valid "PVP" footage? :D |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2441
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Posted - 2015.10.16 14:25:29 -
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I didn't say anything of the sort.
Yonis Ardishapur for Emperor
"Reclaim our Empire"
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Sibyyl
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Squids
25735
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Posted - 2015.10.16 14:53:54 -
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Why did you Reddit account get banned? I'm curious to hear the story.
And I wish I could shout you out
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AmarrTournament1o1
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 14:59:49 -
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Sibyyl wrote: Why did you Reddit account get banned? I'm curious to hear the story.
Well I essentially posted the initial post there, then linked it to a friend. Within 1 minute the post, when clicked on, said "removed".
I tried again like 30 min later and saw the post go the top of the new page, had like 20 views within 2-3 minutes, then again 1-2 min later it again said "removed", and after that I tried posting it another time & it came up with an error that I haven't saved, but it essentially allowed me to post, but it never went out, & nobody else could see the post online even if I sent them the link.
I have messaged all the moderators of the Eve reddit, & haven't gotten any responses yet. |
AmarrTournament1o1
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 16:33:25 -
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Sibyyl wrote: Why did you Reddit account get banned? I'm curious to hear the story.
I've added a imgur link at the initial post :) |
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1564
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Posted - 2015.10.16 17:39:17 -
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AmarrTournament1o1 wrote: Second bet is how many teams Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris has 1, 3 or 5?
(answer is also 3)
According to the recent announcement, it appears all 3 of your options were incorrect. The correct answer, as it turns out, appears to be four.
Congrats to all the captains who got picked. Looks like a good, varied field of people to me.
Morwen Lagann
CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Owner, The Golden Masque
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StarFleetCommander
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
300
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Posted - 2015.10.16 17:47:54 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote:AmarrTournament1o1 wrote: Second bet is how many teams Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris has 1, 3 or 5?
(answer is also 3)
According to the recent announcement, it appears all 3 of your options were incorrect. The correct answer, as it turns out, appears to be four. Congrats to all the captains who got picked. Looks like a good, varied field of people to me.
Nice 4 teams from the same alliance! lets just ignore all of the other credible teams that applied....
Congrats to PL for winning the Amarr Championships 2016!!! |
Kalaratiri
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
746
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Posted - 2015.10.16 17:49:47 -
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StarFleetCommander wrote:Morwen Lagann wrote:AmarrTournament1o1 wrote: Second bet is how many teams Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris has 1, 3 or 5?
(answer is also 3)
According to the recent announcement, it appears all 3 of your options were incorrect. The correct answer, as it turns out, appears to be four. Congrats to all the captains who got picked. Looks like a good, varied field of people to me. Nice 4 teams from the same alliance! lets just ignore all of the other credible teams that applied.... Congrats to PL for winning the Amarr Championships 2016!!!
If you bothered reading, you'd know that it's 4 teams from PIE, not PL.
She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.
This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums. - CCP Falcon
I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
412
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Posted - 2015.10.16 17:53:37 -
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gz to PIE on 4 teams from same corp :D
we tried to get 5 habit champions but only 2 of us made it |
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StarFleetCommander
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
300
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Posted - 2015.10.16 17:54:37 -
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Kalaratiri wrote:StarFleetCommander wrote:Morwen Lagann wrote:AmarrTournament1o1 wrote: Second bet is how many teams Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris has 1, 3 or 5?
(answer is also 3)
According to the recent announcement, it appears all 3 of your options were incorrect. The correct answer, as it turns out, appears to be four. Congrats to all the captains who got picked. Looks like a good, varied field of people to me. Nice 4 teams from the same alliance! lets just ignore all of the other credible teams that applied.... Congrats to PL for winning the Amarr Championships 2016!!! If you bothered reading, you'd know that it's 4 teams from PIE, not PL.
PL have 3 teams :P
I mean good luck to them im sure they will put a good show but so many teams are from the same alliance or corp it just seems little to no thought was put into the selection |
StarFleetCommander
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
300
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Posted - 2015.10.16 17:55:33 -
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Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:gz to PIE on 4 teams from same corp :D
This ^^^ :) |
Kalaratiri
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
746
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:04:44 -
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StarFleetCommander wrote:Kalaratiri wrote:StarFleetCommander wrote:Morwen Lagann wrote:AmarrTournament1o1 wrote: Second bet is how many teams Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris has 1, 3 or 5?
(answer is also 3)
According to the recent announcement, it appears all 3 of your options were incorrect. The correct answer, as it turns out, appears to be four. Congrats to all the captains who got picked. Looks like a good, varied field of people to me. Nice 4 teams from the same alliance! lets just ignore all of the other credible teams that applied.... Congrats to PL for winning the Amarr Championships 2016!!! If you bothered reading, you'd know that it's 4 teams from PIE, not PL. PL have 3 teams :P I mean good luck to them im sure they will put a good show but so many teams are from the same alliance or corp it just seems little to no thought was put into the selection
In fairness, PIE as a corp are 12 years old and have remained loyal to the Amarr that entire time. They only fly Amarr ships in normal play, never mind the tournament. If you want Empire loyalists, you really don't have to look any further.
She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.
This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums. - CCP Falcon
I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim
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Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1566
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:09:42 -
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You seem so shocked that a group of Amarr loyalist roleplayers with about a dozen years of constant dedicated effort towards serving their faction, even before FW was a thing, have successfully applied to help usher in one of the most significant changes to the future of their faction in years, when it was clearly stated from the outset that the Heirs would be involved in the selection of the champions.
Heirs, as in the in-universe, in-character entities. Making decisions as they would, as individuals, within the universe of New Eden. Some of them chose to risk selecting mercenaries with no real demonstration of loyalty to their cause or to the Empire. And some chose to hedge their bets on captains they did not feel were corruptible by ISK or other factors.
It's not favoritism from CCP. It's characters within the game universe acting according to their beliefs.
And given that those characters happen to be Amarrian, it is a little ignorant to expect them to not look at people who have consistently displayed their loyalty more favorably than those who have not.
Morwen Lagann
CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Owner, The Golden Masque
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StarFleetCommander
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
300
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:10:06 -
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Quote:In fairness, PIE as a corp are 12 years old and have remained loyal to the Amarr that entire time. They only fly Amarr ships in normal play, never mind the tournament. If you want Empire loyalists, you really don't have to look any further.
Being loyal to the armarr fair but everyone has to have good standings thats a requirement, but standings to specific airs dont count, plus if this is RP and one of your hostile air's picks a team from a corp would you go and pick a team from there aswell? i wouldnt
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Kalaratiri
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
747
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:14:20 -
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StarFleetCommander wrote:Quote:In fairness, PIE as a corp are 12 years old and have remained loyal to the Amarr that entire time. They only fly Amarr ships in normal play, never mind the tournament. If you want Empire loyalists, you really don't have to look any further. Being loyal to the armarr fair but everyone has to have good standings thats a requirement, but standings to specific airs dont count, plus if this is RP and one of your hostile air's picks a team from a corp would you go and pick a team from there aswell? i wouldnt
As PIE as a corp has not signed up to one single Heir, and in fact made it quite clear that individual pilots would be allowed to pick their own Heir to support..
Sure, why not?
She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.
This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums. - CCP Falcon
I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim
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AmarrTournament1o1
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:14:35 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote:You seem so shocked that a group of Amarr loyalist roleplayers with about a dozen years of constant dedicated effort towards serving their faction, even before FW was a thing, have successfully applied to help usher in one of the most significant changes to the future of their faction in years, when it was clearly stated from the outset that the Heirs would be involved in the selection of the champions.
Heirs, as in the in-universe, in-character entities. Making decisions as they would, as individuals, within the universe of New Eden. Some of them chose to risk selecting mercenaries with no real demonstration of loyalty to their cause or to the Empire. And some chose to hedge their bets on captains they did not feel were corruptible by ISK or other factors.
It's not favoritism from CCP. It's characters within the game universe acting according to their beliefs.
And given that those characters happen to be Amarrian, it is a little ignorant to expect them to not look at people who have consistently displayed their loyalty more favorably than those who have not.
So you're calling PL loyalist towards amarr?:D LAWL
You do realise CVA had applications in and guess what THEY DIDN'T GET IN!?!?
The biggest amarrian "RP" Entity didn't get in? wtf ill due process is this shiet? |
Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
7703
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:15:31 -
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Excepting, SFC, that PIE made an announcement that as a corp it was abstaining from declaring support for an heir.
The basic idea, remember, isn't that this is an alliance tournament or even a corporate tournament, but about individual combat.
AmarrTournament1o1, Morlag's talking about PIE.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
412
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:16:09 -
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JubbadahuT wrote:This is the biggest bullshit i have ever seen...we tryed to push our standings...made vidoes...
3 PL teams....you are the ****....
Dunno about Fafer but Elise and I both did a ton of missions and worked on our standings for this, also quality video submissions. Wouldn't be very fair if they rejected us just because we're PL. 5 out of 8 applications from people in PL did not make it in by my count.
PS; I have 9.28 unmodified standing to Amarr Empire |
StarFleetCommander
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
300
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:18:05 -
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Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:JubbadahuT wrote:This is the biggest bullshit i have ever seen...we tryed to push our standings...made vidoes...
3 PL teams....you are the ****.... Dunno about Fafer but Elise and I both did a ton of missions and worked on our standings for this, also quality video submissions. Wouldn't be very fair if they rejected us just because we're PL. 5 out of 8 applications from people in PL did not make it in by my count. PS; I have 9.28 unmodified standing to Amarr Empire
I think everyone did loads of missions mate,cos standings |
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