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Wizzkid1
LittleHauling Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: ollobrains snip
Congratulations ollobrains with wanting to restrict the development of the market in the whole of EvE. You must be proud of yourself. I'm sure this will be benefitial to the privateers in the long run. CEO of LittleHauling. Daikoku Trade Syndicate member. |
Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:56:00 -
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Privateers have shouted pretty loud about how their style of gameplay will alter the face of EVE.
Until you work out it has changed and how to counter it, then it has.
Now here is the change you need to make.
Dont be hauling big fat soft targets in trade hubs when they have war decced you.
Fly in convoys if you must fly at all. But better, get someone else to haul your stuff that is not wardecced and if you dont trust anyone then alts are going to have to do the job.
Keep those soft targets in the hangers and bring out the gunships, fitted with all that t1 crud they dont want as loot.
The economics of Privateers is based on earning money out of soft target drops.
If the alliances they have wardecced kept those in the hanger and brought out the t1 fitted ships for war, Privateers will be looking at a very different proposition.
They shouted about changing the way Eve will be played but they would not last if what they wished for came true, not in current format anyway.
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Wizzkid1
Originally by: ollobrains snip
Congratulations ollobrains with wanting to restrict the development of the market in the whole of EvE. You must be proud of yourself. I'm sure this will be benefitial to the privateers in the long run.
use NPC alts to haul ( doh) um market = ISK = rich pickings u might loose a few members but piracy and shooting are also good for the development of eve
we are just here for fun and economic gain see u guys out there
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Omega Man Privateers have shouted pretty loud about how their style of gameplay will alter the face of EVE.
Until you work out it has changed and how to counter it, then it has.
Now here is the change you need to make.
Dont be hauling big fat soft targets in trade hubs when they have war decced you.
Fly in convoys if you must fly at all. But better, get someone else to haul your stuff that is not wardecced and if you dont trust anyone then alts are going to have to do the job.
Keep those soft targets in the hangers and bring out the gunships, fitted with all that t1 crud they dont want as loot.
The economics of Privateers is based on earning money out of soft target drops.
If the alliances they have wardecced kept those in the hanger and brought out the t1 fitted ships for war, Privateers will be looking at a very different proposition.
They shouted about changing the way Eve will be played but they would not last if what they wished for came true, not in current format anyway.
youre forgetting the killboards there is some competition there to so the straight out lots of PVP argument should not be discounted - u cannot apply a single one logic to privateers the only thing they dont try to do is conqueor 0.0 space thats the only thing that can be said about us
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.01.01 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: ollobrains
youre forgetting the killboards there is some competition there to so the straight out lots of PVP argument should not be discounted - u cannot apply a single one logic to privateers the only thing they dont try to do is conqueor 0.0 space thats the only thing that can be said about us
once the ISK supply is removed, Privateers current model does not look so good.
Underestimating your alliance members desire for soft targets and loot would be an error.
I know you like to present Pricvateers as some sort of ground breaking idea so complex people just cannot understand how advanced it is.
Truth is the bulk are simple empire gankers cashing in on loot while the looting is good.
While one logic might not cover all members, it applies to enough that Privateers would be nothing if the soft targets it preys on disappeared to be replaced by people wanting to shoot back.
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Bob Clive
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Omega Man once the ISK supply is removed, Privateers current model does not look so good.
You assume much here.
Originally by: Omega Man Underestimating your alliance members desire for soft targets and loot would be an error.
Underestimating my alliance members desire to gank NON-soft targets is equally wrong.
Originally by: Omega Man Truth is the bulk are simple empire gankers cashing in on loot while the looting is good.
Nobody here is saying otherwise.
Originally by: Omega Man While one logic might not cover all members, it applies to enough that Privateers would be nothing if the soft targets it preys on disappeared to be replaced by people wanting to shoot back.
If your trying to suggest we will run out of soft targets/carebears/people that don't want to fight, your wrong. Just wrong.
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 22:18:00 -
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empire is always full of soft targets might require some research for smaller corps alliances that may be off the radar screen but still they are there
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Rayvonuk
Privateers
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Posted - 2007.01.02 00:00:00 -
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"pricvateers"
What a crap, unfunny term, who are you anyway ? and what did we do do make you cry this much ?
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 00:25:00 -
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pricvateers rofl - i think someone lost a ship by being lazy.
Currently looking for new war decs to fund myself
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Sorted
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 00:31:00 -
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The open warfare would continue even if CCP made it impossible to even lock a hauler.
I personaly see about 1 hauler for every 6 combat ships. and more loot has been coming from combat fitted ships than from the carebears...
As the pilots keep what they loot the model stays sound. the ISK for wars isnt an issue. Aslong as its fun we have a basis for it. People join for fun, for profit, to see what its all about, to dive into PVP to see if their cup of tea.
It aint ending anytime soon - infact, its still growing.
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 00:36:00 -
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privateers have how many members now about 400 or so. id like to see us once we hit 800 the noise and camps are now rising - fun times ahead
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2007.01.02 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Omega Man I know you like to present Pricvateers as some sort of ground breaking idea so complex people just cannot understand how advanced it is.
Truth is the bulk are simple empire gankers cashing in on loot while the looting is good.
While one logic might not cover all members, it applies to enough that Privateers would be nothing if the soft targets it preys on disappeared to be replaced by people wanting to shoot back.
There is an inherent contradiction in your post. If this is not a new idea (and it isn't), then how can the current state of affairs be temporary? The reality is, this sort of thing has been going on for ever, activity simply rises and falls. It may disappear from people's awareness for a time, but it is always there. For example, FOE vs XETIC pitted similar numbers against each other.
Economic warfare works. You don't even need to be terribly successful to inconvenience people. During one alliance war I passed an Iteron V being gangwarped up a 0.0 pipe by 4 BS flying escort. All because of 3-4 solo inties that weekend. You see how the resources deployed to adapt to a threat can be greater than the resources behind it. Someone has to take time and effort to adapt. Those who don't, fund the continuation of the problem.
And while most alliances so attacked may not find their net activity terminally hindered, it is still one hell of a blast.
And on your last point, while you may be proved right, you may also be proved wrong. A tipping point may come where enough alliance drones get fed up of the ever-increasing complexity of 0.0 warfare, POS, ouposts, cynos, that they go back to their roots - a more casual, less scripted style of gaming. No doubt people would mention bandwagons, but what's new? The people wanting to shoot back would find they are encountering equivalent forces.
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 07:15:00 -
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we need more haulers to shoot captain they keep being overfarmed.
Still the odd combat kill is fun except axe running amoik but intel on their blobs has reduced our losses
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Lt Angus
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Omega Man
Originally by: ollobrains
youre forgetting the killboards there is some competition there to so the straight out lots of PVP argument should not be discounted - u cannot apply a single one logic to privateers the only thing they dont try to do is conqueor 0.0 space thats the only thing that can be said about us
once the ISK supply is removed, Privateers current model does not look so good.
Underestimating your alliance members desire for soft targets and loot would be an error.
I know you like to present Pricvateers as some sort of ground breaking idea so complex people just cannot understand how advanced it is.
Truth is the bulk are simple empire gankers cashing in on loot while the looting is good.
While one logic might not cover all members, it applies to enough that Privateers would be nothing if the soft targets it preys on disappeared to be replaced by people wanting to shoot back.
Well done you failed to grasp it, we dont claim its a complex idea its painfully simple, the loot would only dry up if we somehow won all 30 of our current wars yay thats gonna happen
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.02 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: ollobrains we need more haulers to shoot captain they keep being overfarmed.
Still the odd combat kill is fun except axe running amoik but intel on their blobs has reduced our losses
Once you mastered killing haulers, go for T1 frigs, then bigger etc etc. As soon as you reached battleships, contact me, i may be still playing eve.
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Rayvonuk
Privateers
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Posted - 2007.01.02 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Rayvonuk on 02/01/2007 13:53:34
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: ollobrains we need more haulers to shoot captain they keep being overfarmed.
Still the odd combat kill is fun except axe running amoik but intel on their blobs has reduced our losses
Once you mastered killing haulers, go for T1 frigs, then bigger etc etc. As soon as you reached battleships, contact me, i may be still playing eve.
Many BOB BS have been put down by us, arrogant tosser.
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Pete Tosh
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Posted - 2007.01.02 13:53:00 -
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In England bob is a slang term for excrement.
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Damien Smith
Turbulent Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 14:04:00 -
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It's true. All of Privateers' member corps are nothing but noobs who can't handle low sec space and gank defenceless haulers in Jita...
In actual fact to a few of the corps it's a way to get around the stupid 3 max wardecs limit, while having the added bonus of them inheriting every one of every other allied corp's wars.
If every corp chooses one corp/alliance to wardec each, (which they do) and at 24 member corps (last I checked) then you're getting 24 wars for the price of one. Not to mention that some corps have multiple wardecs, and any outside party can pay for Privateers to dec whoever they like, for only the cost of the wardec.
Privateers - It's not revolutionary, but it's a bloody good idea
----------- Join channel 'Turby' or die! (bring pie) I <3 carebears on toast ^^ - Xorus I'll trade you some carebears for some sheep -Tirg
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.02 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Rayvonuk Edited by: Rayvonuk on 02/01/2007 13:53:34
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: ollobrains we need more haulers to shoot captain they keep being overfarmed.
Still the odd combat kill is fun except axe running amoik but intel on their blobs has reduced our losses
Once you mastered killing haulers, go for T1 frigs, then bigger etc etc. As soon as you reached battleships, contact me, i may be still playing eve.
Many BOB BS have been put down by us, arrogant tosser.
Yes... you managed to kill <5 bob bs(probably less than 2). You lost machariel so again: When you have something worth killing, it will die. Till then, you know where to find us(and you don't even need war dec for it)
-------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve.
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Lt Angus
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Rayvonuk Edited by: Rayvonuk on 02/01/2007 13:53:34
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: ollobrains we need more haulers to shoot captain they keep being overfarmed.
Still the odd combat kill is fun except axe running amoik but intel on their blobs has reduced our losses
Once you mastered killing haulers, go for T1 frigs, then bigger etc etc. As soon as you reached battleships, contact me, i may be still playing eve.
Many BOB BS have been put down by us, arrogant tosser.
Yes... you managed to kill <5 bob bs(probably less than 2). You lost machariel so again: When you have something worth killing, it will die. Till then, you know where to find us(and you don't even need war dec for it)
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Bob Clive
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC Yes... you managed to kill <5 bob bs(probably less than 2)
Our KB shows 10 BS kills. But hey, you never know, they might be fake. Whatever the truth, we are having fun.
Originally by: LUKEC When you have something worth killing, it will die. Till then, you know where to find us(and you don't even need war dec for it)
k.
would you like to touch my monkey?
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Usha Lamia
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 17:52:00 -
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Just want to hand out the view of a new char, less than a month old still in my kessie enjoying the game.
today ive been involved in the killing of
industrial x 2 cruiser x2 frig x1 pod x4 BS x3 BC x1 shuttle x1 Elite frig x1
Now id say thats a fairly good spread of ship types . Im pretty sure the shuttle and one hauler were afking so wtf ,more fool them i can tell you for sure the BSs were not.
Could of added an Eos and Myrm to that but the two AXE pilots couldnt decide if they liked the view better in the station or not.
Im sure those who say we make no differance are yet to loose a ship.
Still , plenty of time
Main point of todays lesson is ive had a load of fun
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Philopoemen Locke
Caldari Ferrum Pugnus
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Posted - 2007.01.02 22:38:00 -
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An odd footnote to this conversation. Today my corporation was war decced by the privateers. Which seems odd because we are a small corporation based out of 0.0. This will be my fourth privateer war (5 if you count a beyond divinity dec before they joined privs.) So have fun and it'll be interesting to see you out there. This represents my own personal veiws, not those of my corporation. |
ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 22:53:00 -
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2 man corps have been war dec'd if it suited their economic interest. Everyone has a reason to BOB it takes 20 of us to down u guys ive missed a few hauelrs to but u can still be killed and anyway u should be out in 0.0 not runnign empire missions btw
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Sorted
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Philopoemen Locke An odd footnote to this conversation. Today my corporation was war decced by the privateers. Which seems odd because we are a small corporation based out of 0.0. This will be my fourth privateer war (5 if you count a beyond divinity dec before they joined privs.) So have fun and it'll be interesting to see you out there.
We are taking Dec contracts.. people pay the War Dec cost and they are on the list. its simple.. I have no idea why your on there - glad you like 0.0 though.
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