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Xenny Lee
Minmatar The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.29 21:44:00 -
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True story, it was then followed by me getting 4 officers spawns in the same constelation and seeing a Santa Claus zoom by me with his reindeer fighters.
/me takes his medication
<3 2 all
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Samirol
The Scope
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Posted - 2006.12.29 21:48:00 -
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is this a half hearted flame?
Privateers kill in high sec. This is like complaining that a merc corp that is only contracted for high sec logistic disruption isnt attacking your POSes in 0.0
Great being a gallente blasterthron pilot, aint it?
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arkarsk
Provenance.
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Posted - 2006.12.29 21:49:00 -
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nyoro~n ----------------- Now Recruiting! http://www.eve-provenance.com KB located at the website |

Marcathonas
The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.29 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol is this a half hearted flame?
Privateers attack a deimos with 7 cruisers and lose in high sec. This is like complaining that a merc corp that is only contracted for high sec logistic disruption isnt attacking your POSes in 0.0
Fixed.
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Bob Clive
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.29 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Any American Politician There is no bad press
IBTL?
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Chronus26
Gallente Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.12.29 22:37:00 -
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Edited by: Chronus26 on 29/12/2006 22:37:44 Privateers succeed in what they set out to do - gank haulers in high-sec. I've seen their killboard, and anybody who is killed by them really REALLY deserves to die. An empire war is NOT the time to be hauling your stuff about. If anybody in my corporation was caught doing this I'd kick them on the spot, it's stupid.
Pitty they dont ever fight me (my alt) but choose to run away. (Send your real PVPers to Rens please - you know, down in heimitar, #2 trade hub on the map... that one.) -----
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nickycakes
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.29 23:05:00 -
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george bush doesn't care about privateers
Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
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Shiwan Khan
Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.29 23:07:00 -
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no one cares about privateers tbh... "TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO" - Buddrow
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Commander Solo
Caldari Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.29 23:10:00 -
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Best call the A-Team tbh.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.29 23:17:00 -
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I THINK PRIVATEERS ARE THE BANANAS OF THE FUTURE! EXCEPT THEY'RE NOT YELLOW. OR CURVED. ER EDIBLE. NOR DO THEY GROW ON TREES. STILL THOUGH, BANANAS OF THE FUTURE! -----
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.29 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: arkarsk nyoro~n

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Le Skunk
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.29 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Shiwan Khan no one cares about privateers tbh...
I believe your frieghter pilot we found lumbering around fully laden with a POS , POS fittings, fuel, assorted ships and other items cared very much when our Pilot took his 1.5 billion isk ship apart and podded him.
As did the other 4 freighter pilots who we have destroyed and the uncountable masses of haulers we have popped.
Originally by: Chronus26 Edited by: Chronus26 on 29/12/2006 22:37:44 Privateers succeed in what they set out to do - gank haulers in high-sec. I've seen their killboard, and anybody who is killed by them really REALLY deserves to die. An empire war is NOT the time to be hauling your stuff about. If anybody in my corporation was caught doing this I'd kick them on the spot, it's stupid.
I can confirm yes we kill haulers and sell their loot for massive isk profit. However this is not just all we are about. The privateers corporation and Privateer Allaince WOULD NEVER KICK OUR CORPIES FOR MAKING A MISTAKE. Where you would happily compound IN YOUR OWN WORD the misery of the people under you command by kicking them out of your corp. A lot of what we are about is freeing pilots from bullterd rules and regs and enforced mining, and fines and demotations/promotions and some sweaty man in his y-Fronts screaming down TeamSpeak at you to STFU!
OH NOES IVE HAD MY HANGER PRIVELEDGES TAKEN AWAY FROM ME FOR GOGIN DOWN THE PUB WITH MY BIRD RATHER THEN LOGGIN ON FOR 8 HOUR GATE CAMP DUTY!
You are free to come and go with no rules excpet dont grief an alliance mate.
Originally by: nickycakes george bush doesn't care about privateers
Im afraid i cannot comment on the rumor that one of our Rich backers who help enable us to have 20 wars on the go at the same time with a 0% TAX RATE is a high up member in the American government. I catagorically cannot-not-not-not-not-not-not-not-not-not confirm this.
Originally by: Xenny Lee True story, it was then followed by me getting 4 officers spawns in the same constelation and seeing a Santa Claus zoom by me with his reindeer fighters. /me takes his medication
The privateers are moddeled apon santas - but evil santas - We come down your chimney - beat you up and steal your presents. Despite his attempts to deny it, my corpie Sorted also throws people over the bonnets of cars in slowmotion.
Come join us peeps =- you know you want to
SKUNK
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Phrixus Zephyr
Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.12.30 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain I THINK PRIVATEERS ARE THE BANANAS OF THE FUTURE! EXCEPT THEY'RE NOT YELLOW. OR CURVED. ER EDIBLE. NOR DO THEY GROW ON TREES. STILL THOUGH, BANANAS OF THE FUTURE!
You win this thread.
Originally by: Victor Ramirez using it to get the layout of a new system and a quick belt-check is about as practical as using Google Earth to see if your car is still in front of your house.
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Crimson Magician
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.12.30 00:23:00 -
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119 kills on the privs killboard so far , friday 29th, how many from smash?
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2006.12.30 00:27:00 -
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when does Privateers get time to do all these things in game.
I know the same few stories of freighter kills are recycled endlessly on every thread but still.
If half the energy was expended in game by the alliance that you do on this forum you might be more of a force and less of an interesting sideshow.
Still it will be interesting to see what Privateers alliance becomes once the trainer wheels come off, coz surely we are not looking at the limit of your imagination right now.
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Chronus26
Gallente Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.12.30 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk I can confirm yes we kill haulers and sell their loot for massive isk profit. However this is not just all we are about. The privateers corporation and Privateer Allaince WOULD NEVER KICK OUR CORPIES FOR MAKING A MISTAKE. Where you would happily compound IN YOUR OWN WORD the misery of the people under you command by kicking them out of your corp. A lot of what we are about is freeing pilots from bullterd rules and regs and enforced mining, and fines and demotations/promotions and some sweaty man in his y-Fronts screaming down TeamSpeak at you to STFU!
OH NOES IVE HAD MY HANGER PRIVELEDGES TAKEN AWAY FROM ME FOR GOGIN DOWN THE PUB WITH MY BIRD RATHER THEN LOGGIN ON FOR 8 HOUR GATE CAMP DUTY!
You are free to come and go with no rules excpet dont grief an alliance mate.
Flying a T1 hauler around DURING WAR TIME for you guys to kill is a mistake yes, but its a mistake even week-old newbies normally know not to make. I don't like overly imposing rules myself, just the one thing I cannot stand is un-neccisary and avoidable losses. -----
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Crozon
Crozon Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.30 00:41:00 -
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tbh, I think the Privateer are having fun at what they do. They may not have a high kill/death ratio, but as long as their enjoying themselves that's all that really matters. The interesting thing is, since they target 0.0 alliances they're attacking people who should be out there not in Empire.
I can say that ISS as an example now have far fewer hauler losses in Empire ever since Privateers started up; I guess they finally figured out that they're better off using alts for hauling in empire!
Keep enjoying the game Privateers!
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JadeO
Caldari W.A.S.P
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Posted - 2006.12.30 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Solo Best call the A-Team tbh.
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2006.12.30 01:03:00 -
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Yeah, let them enjoy the game the way they want to.
I looked at their killboard and theres some decent 1v1 kills there vs combat fitted ships.
Let them weed out the freeloaders and the unwary. Each to his own.
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Orbital Drift
Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 01:50:00 -
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I think someone is getting bored mining crokite in TDE.
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Le Skunk
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Omega Man when does Privateers get time to do all these things in game.
I know the same few stories of freighter kills are recycled endlessly on every thread but still.
If half the energy was expended in game by the alliance that you do on this forum you might be more of a force and less of an interesting sideshow.
Still it will be interesting to see what Privateers alliance becomes once the trainer wheels come off, coz surely we are not looking at the limit of your imagination right now.
Interesting comments. The stories of freighter kills are not 'recycled'. In fact this is the first thread our FIFTH FREIGHTER KILL (and one ransom) has been announced. It is new information.
If they have been mentioned in the past it is normally because some maliscious alliance propogandist normaly pipes in with "yeah right - i dont believe people fly haulers in war through empire, coz like - theres alts ok" or some other garbage.
A lot of people join the privatters to kill haulers and freighters for profit. This is a fact. And i cannot let alliance smears go unanswered. YES PEOPLE REALLY DO FLY FREIGHTERS AND HAULERS AND MINING SHIPS TYHORUGH EMPIRE IN A WAR. Many many of them. An average of 3 freighters a month + uncountable haulers. If i ever repeat this is usually in repsonse to some comment further up the thread.
An as for the limits of our imagination. This corp has gone from a spark of an idea , when our UBER rich founder Infinity Ziona started the corp paying for the maximum three wars at the same time as a means to enable all pilots, regardless of age, expertise, or previous work history to enjoy empire pvp.
When Infinity had to retire from the game for a while, many foretold the end of our corp. But no - in fact we gained enough money to keep the three wars going. Soon we evolved into an alliance to overcome the maximum war declimit and allow other corps to join us whole and we now have TWENTY SIMULTANIOUS WARS GOING. We have evolved new funding methods and still have no Isk worries. As we grow more pilots will find themselves in our sights.
This is for a three month old corp. one month old alliance.
Approaching 5000kill mark
Its snowballing
You aint seen nothing yet
Originally by: Crozon tbh, I think the Privateer are having fun at what they do. They may not have a high kill/death ratio, but as long as their enjoying themselves that's all that really matters. The interesting thing is, since they target 0.0 alliances they're attacking people who should be out there not in Empire. Keep enjoying the game Privateers!
Intelligence shines through - brightening this thread. I will say that our kill/death ratio is variable. Against d2 alliance (solid pvpers though some of them let the side down by not posting killmails on their own vaunted killboard) we ended up pipping them slighty with 51 % in our favour. Against MWA we are soundly thrashing them 85% in our favour. The ISS navy gave us a good whopping when they finally showed up but many of our pilots had already gourged on loot. I have not located the other alliances killboards to check - im sure some are doing well and soem are not. Its only of a passing concern to our pilots - a nice little stastic to watch. Like you say we are playing for enjoyment - not for some bull**** alliance loyalty - or following commands from the fat man in his y-fronts sweating orders into his microphone. <SIG> |

Zedic
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.30 03:20:00 -
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Yes yes, it's cliche to ask, but who are the privateers? I'd never heard of them until we got wardeced by them. *shrug* pew pew pew
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Lt Angus
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 03:25:00 -
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The hipp new kids on the block
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Grimster
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.30 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk some sweaty man in his y-Fronts screaming down TeamSpeak at you to STFU!
You won the forums for tonight.
Thanks! 
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Darius Thrain
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Posted - 2006.12.30 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: Shiwan Khan no one cares about privateers tbh...
I don't mind that no one cares us.. We get more of these: Linkage LV freighter + 80 crows in the cargo... go boom! |

Danno
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.12.30 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Grimster
Originally by: Le Skunk some sweaty man in his y-Fronts screaming down TeamSpeak at you to STFU!
You won the forums for tonight.
Thanks! 
When will people learn... no-one puts it better than Deh Skunk 

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Zedic
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.30 05:27:00 -
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ok wtf is a y-fronts? This sounds witty, but I need a frame of reference. :)
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Awox
I Fought Piranhas
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Posted - 2006.12.30 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Xenny Lee True story, it was then followed by me getting 4 officers spawns in the same constelation and seeing a Santa Claus zoom by me with his reindeer fighters.
/me takes his medication
<3 2 all
Why would you even post something like this? Did some Privateers gank you in hi-sec while you were AFK? There, there.. It's okay. Let it all out. Aaaaw.
No seriously, DIAF. -- *snip* Discussing moderation/ linking to flamebait is a no-no. Read the forum rules before reposting. If you have any questions, email us at [email protected] Tirg |

Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Orbital Drift I think someone is getting bored mining crokite in TDE.
You mean theres still crokite in TDE?!?!
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Johnny Rook
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.30 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Zedic ok wtf is a y-fronts? This sounds witty, but I need a frame of reference. :)
imagine the most sexiest underwears ever...
..then think of the exact opposite. Those are y-fronts.
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Xenny Lee
Minmatar The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 07:18:00 -
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Actually, been getting some privateer kills, and I dont think any privateers has any bragging rights on smash atm, other then forcing freighters into npc corp and weeding out stupid people... The concept is fun, its given us an alternative to when were bored in 0.0, just in all honesty trading and hauling in empire is a profession (people make money from doing this) and anyone that gets caught (and wasnt looking for a fight) is plain stupid. So paying millions of isk for the ability to grief alliances into restructuring some aspects of their ops because some guys that stick in empire and hunt / scout with alts.
I see war decs as a means of extending wars low sec/0.0 wars... but Meh Ill still have fun.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.30 08:27:00 -
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Why no more war with bob?
Pay goddamned bill so we can continue to laugh...
... ps. i'm in azn & area but i can smack from there as well. -------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve.
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Xenny Lee
Minmatar The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC Why no more war with bob?
Pay goddamned bill so we can continue to laugh...
... ps. i'm in azn & area but i can smack from there as well.
Missed the part where this was about Bob, but to be honest, take this as a compliment, it means ya have too few stupid people that roam haulers in empire with expensive stuff.
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tams
Gallente Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 10:04:00 -
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just remember kids..
The mad ones are the sad ones! (they prolly the killed ones to)
dident even notice that we had war with smash. Just counted war, we got 27 ongoing wars.
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Le Skunk
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Johnny Rook
Originally by: Zedic ok wtf is a y-fronts? This sounds witty, but I need a frame of reference. :)
imagine the most sexiest underwears ever...
..then think of the exact opposite. Those are y-fronts.
LOL
Basically like horrid little brief style underpants but they have an upside down Y shape on the front - usually in a lurid lumonescent color. As far as i can remember you can lift the top part of the Y up for easy access to your member for quick "tolieting" A real 70's mans chocie if underpant - though according to wikipedia:
Quote: "They are a fashion item that is making big comeback as more and more men feel they are more comfortable than boxer shorts and considered by some healthier than tight fitting briefs."
Do a google image search for " y front" and you get a nice 70's man with hairy legs wearing a blue pair.
/me deletes his browser cache before the wife finds out
/me realease he is to sad to have a bird as he plays eve all day
For the answers to your underpant questions and more come join the privateers
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Le Skunk
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 30/12/2006 12:47:27 quote=Xenny Lee]Actually, been getting some privateer kills, and I dont think any privateers has any bragging rights on smash atm, other then forcing freighters into npc corp and weeding out stupid people... The concept is fun, its given us an alternative to when were bored in 0.0, just in all honesty trading and hauling in empire is a profession (people make money from doing this) and anyone that gets caught (and wasnt looking for a fight) is plain stupid. So paying millions of isk for the ability to grief alliances into restructuring some aspects of their ops because some guys that stick in empire and hunt / scout with alts.
I see war decs as a means of extending wars low sec/0.0 wars... but Meh Ill still have fun.
Like my collegue says - we are at war with 28 corps/alliances so many of ou r pilots dont even know we ARE at war with smash - You are just another flashing target to gank / run from.
Ive had a quick look and you seem to be doing OK from our killboard. Weve only got 8 of your industirals but some of them had VERY tasty loot in. Thats 8 very happy pilots which is all we care about really. I cant locate your killboard for some reason to see how you are doing.
Its the nature of the beast though - we are at war with 28 corps/alliance. Somebody sometime is gogin to get their act toghether and start putting up some solid resistance. But while you are triumphing with you blob in oursulaert against one of our pilots, another is ganking your haulers in amarr. Or killing freighters in hulm. Or popping miner in Jel.
Originally by: LUKEC Why no more war with bob?
Pay goddamned bill so we can continue to laugh...
... ps. i'm in azn & area but i can smack from there as well.
JEEZE YOU GUYS ARE NEVER HAPPY. we got 28 wars on at the moment and like to rotate them every now and then. Sometimes we shop around - or if any of our memebers has a target they like the look of we will dec that.
However I would like to point out we take annonomous contracts as well for the cost price of the war dec price. You could Pay us to war dec BOB and we wouldnt tell a soul. 
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Lt Angus
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC Why no more war with bob?
Pay goddamned bill so we can continue to laugh...
... ps. i'm in azn & area but i can smack from there as well.
http://www.killboard.net/?p=corp&c=Privateers laugh it up
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.30 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Angus
Originally by: LUKEC Why no more war with bob?
Pay goddamned bill so we can continue to laugh...
... ps. i'm in azn & area but i can smack from there as well.
http://www.killboard.net/?p=corp&c=Privateers laugh it up
Look it's bob's kb. And mods are gonna pwn your post. But i'm still laughing from this: i got pwned as soon as i got my faction ship
Please, when we notice anything worth killing, we will kill it. Till then, good luck waiting. Please wardec us again. -------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve.
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Rayvonuk
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.12.30 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Xenny Lee
Originally by: LUKEC Why no more war with bob?
Pay goddamned bill so we can continue to laugh...
... ps. i'm in azn & area but i can smack from there as well.
Missed the part where this was about Bob, but to be honest, take this as a compliment, it means ya have too few stupid people that roam haulers in empire with expensive stuff.
no it doesnt. It means its your turn to be rotated out for a while.
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tams
Gallente Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: tams on 30/12/2006 14:31:11
Originally by: Chronus26 Edited by: Chronus26 on 29/12/2006 22:37:44 Privateers succeed in what they set out to do - gank haulers in high-sec. I've seen their killboard, and anybody who is killed by them really REALLY deserves to die. An empire war is NOT the time to be hauling your stuff about. If anybody in my corporation was caught doing this I'd kick them on the spot, it's stupid.
Pitty they dont ever fight me (my alt) but choose to run away. (Send your real PVPers to Rens please - you know, down in heimitar, #2 trade hub on the map... that one.)
I am sure some players would love to fight you its just that half local in rens are red stars, its not like your alone camping m8 station etc
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Jacques Archambault
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.12.30 16:46:00 -
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Thread cleaned. Please keep your replies polite and on-topic. Also, no posting of killboard links please.
-Jacques'
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Ronin Bloodangel
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 18:32:00 -
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LUKEC, Before you have that laugh... you might want to check your own KB first.

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Marcathonas
The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 19:28:00 -
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OMG SOMETHING VAGUELY CONSTRUCTUVE INCOMING! RUN AWAY TROLLS PLZ KEKE
Frankly, I like the idea of the Privateers. The idea of you guys pewpewing every alliance in game for the sake of being a pain is amusing, and the fact that you've made enemies join gangs with each other to shoot you is something to smile about imho.
But frankly, there are some people who are utterly full of crap. Like that random troll who posted that Privateers are shaking things up and could swing the balance of power.
No offence, but that will NEVER happen in highsec. We simply don't care. You kill afk haulers? Good! Teach the buggers not to haul AFK during wartime, and hopefully they wont repeat it again. And if they go "well screw you alliance guys for not psyhcicly predicting where I was and saving me from my own stupidity" then they're not the sort of people most alliances struggle to get.
I know personally that a lot of hauler alts have just gone to noob corps or left alliances. Still the alliance in spirit, just minus the wardec. Plus, you made druz use the goddamn vindicator, and you got xenny away from me \o/ (frankly the smell was getting old). It's a happy holiday.
And finally, that freighter kill with the 80 crows was just pure gold 
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2006.12.30 20:28:00 -
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How much smack have we had about Privateers now?
Despite the fact that it is a mere repeat of where MC got started? You know, the whole "disrupting alliance logistics in Empire is never going to work" bit of bankrupt conventional wisdom?
It feels like ASCN, BoB, RA and Goonfleet all over again - so many people have queued up to play down their achievements, you just know the concept will endure. If you can spawn a 12-page smack thread, I reckon you have arrived.
The genie is out of the bottle again, and I expect this concept to remain on the scene a year from now.
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Bob Clive
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Sy How much smack have we had about Privateers now?
Despite the fact that it is a mere repeat of where MC got started? You know, the whole "disrupting alliance logistics in Empire is never going to work" bit of bankrupt conventional wisdom?
It feels like ASCN, BoB, RA and Goonfleet all over again - so many people have queued up to play down their achievements, you just know the concept will endure. If you can spawn a 12-page smack thread, I reckon you have arrived.
The genie is out of the bottle again, and I expect this concept to remain on the scene a year from now.
I like you.
You get it.
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Amarrian Android
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Sy How much smack have we had about Privateers now?
Despite the fact that it is a mere repeat of where MC got started? You know, the whole "disrupting alliance logistics in Empire is never going to work" bit of bankrupt conventional wisdom?
It feels like ASCN, BoB, RA and Goonfleet all over again - so many people have queued up to play down their achievements, you just know the concept will endure. If you can spawn a 12-page smack thread, I reckon you have arrived.
The genie is out of the bottle again, and I expect this concept to remain on the scene a year from now.
Agreed. The formula is rock solid:
To have fun, and not follow anyones rules.
Screw the other alliances. Ours is more fun 
Our numbers are growing exponentially, and many joining members are skilled pilots who have been pvping a LONG time. Still others are n00b players looking to maximize their fun while still learning about Eve and pvp. We don't care who you are. We don't give a crap about what corps/alliances you've been in. We are all in Privateers to have the most fun possible in Eve. It's addictive. Like being a pirate? Many a scurvy Privateer engages in piracy, and we pirate whoever we want, we just don't give a crap. We have more war targets then anyone. And I recon more fun then anyone as well. 
Privateers - "The naturally high method to play Eve."
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.30 21:35:00 -
[47]
economic yarrrr
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.31 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 31/12/2006 02:36:13
Originally by: Ronin Bloodangel LUKEC, Before you have that laugh... you might want to check your own KB first.

Are we dead yet? I don't see anything worth mentioning on our kb in loss section. -------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve.
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Danno
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.12.31 03:19:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Danno on 31/12/2006 03:20:27
Originally by: Marcathonas
Frankly, I like the idea of the Privateers. The idea of you guys pewpewing every alliance in game for the sake of being a pain is amusing, and the fact that you've made enemies join gangs with each other to shoot you is something to smile about imho.
Plus, you made druz use the goddamn vindicator, and you got xenny away from me \o/ (frankly the smell was getting old). It's a happy holiday.
And finally, that freighter kill with the 80 crows was just pure gold 
Thx dude, the point about enemies in the same gangs is the thing i have found the most significant of all the things i've seen so far, never mentioned it, but am glad someone outside of privs has 
was crushed to have missed the freighter have never as yet seen one pop, just wanna see the pretty explosion , and dammit i have personally felt the wrath of Druz's vindy (but was still fun ) , keep up the good fighting smash dudes.
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Azzaa
Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.31 05:01:00 -
[50]
lol
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Xenny Lee
Minmatar The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.31 06:18:00 -
[51]
Well me and a few corp members and stuff found that privateers have a preety low respawn rate. We even tried leaving the frigs alive, but the battleship spawns dont come back =(
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.31 10:44:00 -
[52]
we tend to pick our fights.
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Lt Angus
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.31 11:51:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Xenny Lee Well me and a few corp members and stuff found that privateers have a preety low respawn rate. We even tried leaving the frigs alive, but the battleship spawns dont come back =(
5 ship kills damn you are good 
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.31 12:12:00 -
[54]
we will feed off others then come back to respawn happens eventually try moving off the hub stations and u guys might have some luck ( zinkon and stacmon perhaps) not just ours jita and rens.
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Rayvonuk
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.12.31 16:23:00 -
[55]
Why would we want to fight an organised group of War targets anyway ?
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Marcathonas
The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.31 16:26:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Rayvonuk Why would we want to fight an organised group of War targets anyway ?
Because if you don't, the vindicator gets put away.
Please, think of the vindi.
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Gruxella
Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.31 20:21:00 -
[57]
Marc, The privateers did indeed pop my hauler. It's a sad story, but it was a good fun fight. The only disappointment being that it was a myrm who did it.. I can tank 5 medium drones, not 5 t2 heavies!!! And Chronus, what do you expect me to do, fly a cruiser for pvp? pfffstttt....
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Marcathonas
The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 02:00:00 -
[58]
YOU KILLED GRUX!?!?!
Right, that's it. IMA COME P00N J00.
Right after I get my sec status up.
See you next christmas then!
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Xenny Lee
Minmatar The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 07:43:00 -
[59]
Well for one... Pick our fights? I believe the proper term is: we only go for the fights we can win thx to the nice network of alts we can have going. (Something that in 0.0.. you could just smack the little blind alt camera, not that 0.0 doesnt have any blobbing problems )

For seconds, 5 kills, sounds about right, 3 man gank squad I had a fight with, domi and frig I got kill mails for, and maybe 2-3 more that I got on the KM... for 2 days in empire and a 2006 char thats not 2 bad eh?
Lastly, organized group? I mean geez... thats giving us serious credit hehehe, I mean were just a few fella joining in on the fun! Empire War dec and somebody else is picking up the tab! Well Happy New Year and GF to all those that we saw!
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 10:56:00 -
[60]
as u guys in smash can probably figure out we have lots of wars u guys apparetnly are fun to play with but in economic terms there are soooooo many juicy haulers just floating around
I personally paid for the war dec on daikoku trade syndicate already losses are at 120m and climbing they drop nice zyd and mega - carebears that make good red flashing kaboom sounds and drop loot.
As for PVP had some fun with axe and ASCN that just go pop pop pop bang bang fire fire all the time.
Id like the privateer killboard to list the most ISK damage per alliance a bit like battleclinc does. Will wait and see there
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Wizzkid1
LittleHauling Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:40:00 -
[61]
Originally by: ollobrains snip
Congratulations ollobrains with wanting to restrict the development of the market in the whole of EvE. You must be proud of yourself. I'm sure this will be benefitial to the privateers in the long run. CEO of LittleHauling. Daikoku Trade Syndicate member. |

Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:56:00 -
[62]
Privateers have shouted pretty loud about how their style of gameplay will alter the face of EVE.
Until you work out it has changed and how to counter it, then it has.
Now here is the change you need to make.
Dont be hauling big fat soft targets in trade hubs when they have war decced you.
Fly in convoys if you must fly at all. But better, get someone else to haul your stuff that is not wardecced and if you dont trust anyone then alts are going to have to do the job.
Keep those soft targets in the hangers and bring out the gunships, fitted with all that t1 crud they dont want as loot.
The economics of Privateers is based on earning money out of soft target drops.
If the alliances they have wardecced kept those in the hanger and brought out the t1 fitted ships for war, Privateers will be looking at a very different proposition.
They shouted about changing the way Eve will be played but they would not last if what they wished for came true, not in current format anyway.
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 20:44:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Wizzkid1
Originally by: ollobrains snip
Congratulations ollobrains with wanting to restrict the development of the market in the whole of EvE. You must be proud of yourself. I'm sure this will be benefitial to the privateers in the long run.
use NPC alts to haul ( doh) um market = ISK = rich pickings u might loose a few members but piracy and shooting are also good for the development of eve
we are just here for fun and economic gain see u guys out there
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 20:46:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Omega Man Privateers have shouted pretty loud about how their style of gameplay will alter the face of EVE.
Until you work out it has changed and how to counter it, then it has.
Now here is the change you need to make.
Dont be hauling big fat soft targets in trade hubs when they have war decced you.
Fly in convoys if you must fly at all. But better, get someone else to haul your stuff that is not wardecced and if you dont trust anyone then alts are going to have to do the job.
Keep those soft targets in the hangers and bring out the gunships, fitted with all that t1 crud they dont want as loot.
The economics of Privateers is based on earning money out of soft target drops.
If the alliances they have wardecced kept those in the hanger and brought out the t1 fitted ships for war, Privateers will be looking at a very different proposition.
They shouted about changing the way Eve will be played but they would not last if what they wished for came true, not in current format anyway.
youre forgetting the killboards there is some competition there to so the straight out lots of PVP argument should not be discounted - u cannot apply a single one logic to privateers the only thing they dont try to do is conqueor 0.0 space thats the only thing that can be said about us
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.01.01 21:33:00 -
[65]
Originally by: ollobrains
youre forgetting the killboards there is some competition there to so the straight out lots of PVP argument should not be discounted - u cannot apply a single one logic to privateers the only thing they dont try to do is conqueor 0.0 space thats the only thing that can be said about us
once the ISK supply is removed, Privateers current model does not look so good.
Underestimating your alliance members desire for soft targets and loot would be an error.
I know you like to present Pricvateers as some sort of ground breaking idea so complex people just cannot understand how advanced it is.
Truth is the bulk are simple empire gankers cashing in on loot while the looting is good.
While one logic might not cover all members, it applies to enough that Privateers would be nothing if the soft targets it preys on disappeared to be replaced by people wanting to shoot back.
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Bob Clive
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 22:13:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Omega Man once the ISK supply is removed, Privateers current model does not look so good.
You assume much here.
Originally by: Omega Man Underestimating your alliance members desire for soft targets and loot would be an error.
Underestimating my alliance members desire to gank NON-soft targets is equally wrong.
Originally by: Omega Man Truth is the bulk are simple empire gankers cashing in on loot while the looting is good.
Nobody here is saying otherwise.
Originally by: Omega Man While one logic might not cover all members, it applies to enough that Privateers would be nothing if the soft targets it preys on disappeared to be replaced by people wanting to shoot back.
If your trying to suggest we will run out of soft targets/carebears/people that don't want to fight, your wrong. Just wrong.
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 22:18:00 -
[67]
empire is always full of soft targets might require some research for smaller corps alliances that may be off the radar screen but still they are there
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Rayvonuk
Privateers
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Posted - 2007.01.02 00:00:00 -
[68]
"pricvateers"
What a crap, unfunny term, who are you anyway ? and what did we do do make you cry this much ?
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 00:25:00 -
[69]
pricvateers rofl - i think someone lost a ship by being lazy.
Currently looking for new war decs to fund myself
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Sorted
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 00:31:00 -
[70]
The open warfare would continue even if CCP made it impossible to even lock a hauler.
I personaly see about 1 hauler for every 6 combat ships. and more loot has been coming from combat fitted ships than from the carebears...
As the pilots keep what they loot the model stays sound. the ISK for wars isnt an issue. Aslong as its fun we have a basis for it. People join for fun, for profit, to see what its all about, to dive into PVP to see if their cup of tea.
It aint ending anytime soon - infact, its still growing.
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 00:36:00 -
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privateers have how many members now about 400 or so. id like to see us once we hit 800 the noise and camps are now rising - fun times ahead
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2007.01.02 01:15:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Omega Man I know you like to present Pricvateers as some sort of ground breaking idea so complex people just cannot understand how advanced it is.
Truth is the bulk are simple empire gankers cashing in on loot while the looting is good.
While one logic might not cover all members, it applies to enough that Privateers would be nothing if the soft targets it preys on disappeared to be replaced by people wanting to shoot back.
There is an inherent contradiction in your post. If this is not a new idea (and it isn't), then how can the current state of affairs be temporary? The reality is, this sort of thing has been going on for ever, activity simply rises and falls. It may disappear from people's awareness for a time, but it is always there. For example, FOE vs XETIC pitted similar numbers against each other.
Economic warfare works. You don't even need to be terribly successful to inconvenience people. During one alliance war I passed an Iteron V being gangwarped up a 0.0 pipe by 4 BS flying escort. All because of 3-4 solo inties that weekend. You see how the resources deployed to adapt to a threat can be greater than the resources behind it. Someone has to take time and effort to adapt. Those who don't, fund the continuation of the problem.
And while most alliances so attacked may not find their net activity terminally hindered, it is still one hell of a blast.
And on your last point, while you may be proved right, you may also be proved wrong. A tipping point may come where enough alliance drones get fed up of the ever-increasing complexity of 0.0 warfare, POS, ouposts, cynos, that they go back to their roots - a more casual, less scripted style of gaming. No doubt people would mention bandwagons, but what's new? The people wanting to shoot back would find they are encountering equivalent forces.
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 07:15:00 -
[73]
we need more haulers to shoot captain they keep being overfarmed.
Still the odd combat kill is fun except axe running amoik but intel on their blobs has reduced our losses
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Lt Angus
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 11:39:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Omega Man
Originally by: ollobrains
youre forgetting the killboards there is some competition there to so the straight out lots of PVP argument should not be discounted - u cannot apply a single one logic to privateers the only thing they dont try to do is conqueor 0.0 space thats the only thing that can be said about us
once the ISK supply is removed, Privateers current model does not look so good.
Underestimating your alliance members desire for soft targets and loot would be an error.
I know you like to present Pricvateers as some sort of ground breaking idea so complex people just cannot understand how advanced it is.
Truth is the bulk are simple empire gankers cashing in on loot while the looting is good.
While one logic might not cover all members, it applies to enough that Privateers would be nothing if the soft targets it preys on disappeared to be replaced by people wanting to shoot back.
Well done you failed to grasp it, we dont claim its a complex idea its painfully simple, the loot would only dry up if we somehow won all 30 of our current wars yay thats gonna happen 
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.02 12:23:00 -
[75]
Originally by: ollobrains we need more haulers to shoot captain they keep being overfarmed.
Still the odd combat kill is fun except axe running amoik but intel on their blobs has reduced our losses
Once you mastered killing haulers, go for T1 frigs, then bigger etc etc. As soon as you reached battleships, contact me, i may be still playing eve.
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Rayvonuk
Privateers
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Posted - 2007.01.02 13:51:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Rayvonuk on 02/01/2007 13:53:34
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: ollobrains we need more haulers to shoot captain they keep being overfarmed.
Still the odd combat kill is fun except axe running amoik but intel on their blobs has reduced our losses
Once you mastered killing haulers, go for T1 frigs, then bigger etc etc. As soon as you reached battleships, contact me, i may be still playing eve.
Many BOB BS have been put down by us, arrogant tosser.
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Pete Tosh
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Posted - 2007.01.02 13:53:00 -
[77]
In England bob is a slang term for excrement.
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Damien Smith
Turbulent Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 14:04:00 -
[78]
It's true. All of Privateers' member corps are nothing but noobs who can't handle low sec space and gank defenceless haulers in Jita...
In actual fact to a few of the corps it's a way to get around the stupid 3 max wardecs limit, while having the added bonus of them inheriting every one of every other allied corp's wars.
If every corp chooses one corp/alliance to wardec each, (which they do) and at 24 member corps (last I checked) then you're getting 24 wars for the price of one. Not to mention that some corps have multiple wardecs, and any outside party can pay for Privateers to dec whoever they like, for only the cost of the wardec.
Privateers - It's not revolutionary, but it's a bloody good idea 
----------- Join channel 'Turby' or die! (bring pie) I <3 carebears on toast ^^ - Xorus I'll trade you some carebears for some sheep -Tirg
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.02 14:05:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Rayvonuk Edited by: Rayvonuk on 02/01/2007 13:53:34
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: ollobrains we need more haulers to shoot captain they keep being overfarmed.
Still the odd combat kill is fun except axe running amoik but intel on their blobs has reduced our losses
Once you mastered killing haulers, go for T1 frigs, then bigger etc etc. As soon as you reached battleships, contact me, i may be still playing eve.
Many BOB BS have been put down by us, arrogant tosser.
Yes... you managed to kill <5 bob bs(probably less than 2). You lost machariel so again: When you have something worth killing, it will die. Till then, you know where to find us(and you don't even need war dec for it)
-------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve.
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Lt Angus
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 14:31:00 -
[80]
Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Rayvonuk Edited by: Rayvonuk on 02/01/2007 13:53:34
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: ollobrains we need more haulers to shoot captain they keep being overfarmed.
Still the odd combat kill is fun except axe running amoik but intel on their blobs has reduced our losses
Once you mastered killing haulers, go for T1 frigs, then bigger etc etc. As soon as you reached battleships, contact me, i may be still playing eve.
Many BOB BS have been put down by us, arrogant tosser.
Yes... you managed to kill <5 bob bs(probably less than 2). You lost machariel so again: When you have something worth killing, it will die. Till then, you know where to find us(and you don't even need war dec for it)

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Bob Clive
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 14:35:00 -
[81]
Originally by: LUKEC Yes... you managed to kill <5 bob bs(probably less than 2)
Our KB shows 10 BS kills. But hey, you never know, they might be fake. Whatever the truth, we are having fun.
Originally by: LUKEC When you have something worth killing, it will die. Till then, you know where to find us(and you don't even need war dec for it)
k.
would you like to touch my monkey?
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Usha Lamia
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 17:52:00 -
[82]
Just want to hand out the view of a new char, less than a month old still in my kessie enjoying the game.
today ive been involved in the killing of
industrial x 2 cruiser x2 frig x1 pod x4 BS x3 BC x1 shuttle x1 Elite frig x1
Now id say thats a fairly good spread of ship types . Im pretty sure the shuttle and one hauler were afking so wtf ,more fool them i can tell you for sure the BSs were not.
Could of added an Eos and Myrm to that but the two AXE pilots couldnt decide if they liked the view better in the station or not.
Im sure those who say we make no differance are yet to loose a ship.
Still , plenty of time 
Main point of todays lesson is ive had a load of fun
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Philopoemen Locke
Caldari Ferrum Pugnus
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Posted - 2007.01.02 22:38:00 -
[83]
An odd footnote to this conversation. Today my corporation was war decced by the privateers. Which seems odd because we are a small corporation based out of 0.0. This will be my fourth privateer war (5 if you count a beyond divinity dec before they joined privs.) So have fun and it'll be interesting to see you out there. This represents my own personal veiws, not those of my corporation. |

ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.02 22:53:00 -
[84]
2 man corps have been war dec'd if it suited their economic interest. Everyone has a reason to BOB it takes 20 of us to down u guys ive missed a few hauelrs to but u can still be killed and anyway u should be out in 0.0 not runnign empire missions btw 
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Sorted
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 00:19:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Philopoemen Locke An odd footnote to this conversation. Today my corporation was war decced by the privateers. Which seems odd because we are a small corporation based out of 0.0. This will be my fourth privateer war (5 if you count a beyond divinity dec before they joined privs.) So have fun and it'll be interesting to see you out there.
We are taking Dec contracts.. people pay the War Dec cost and they are on the list. its simple.. I have no idea why your on there - glad you like 0.0 though.
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