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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.26 15:20:13 -
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These seem awfully cheap at the medium level given their really small vulnerability window. Is there a concern we end up with a very spammable and essentially throwaway level of citadels?
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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.26 15:56:01 -
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What are the units per run of the fuel block bpo?
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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1875
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Posted - 2015.10.26 16:28:25 -
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We want to point out that anyone buying the BPO with these stats would need to be ********.
Imagine 6 are bought day one. How many BPCs in 1 year? Heh. Yeah....
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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1875
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Posted - 2015.10.26 16:30:57 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Aryth wrote:These seem awfully cheap at the medium level given their really small vulnerability window. Is there a concern we end up with a very spammable and essentially throwaway level of citadels? They are destructible, so the smaller sizes should be relatively spammable. Also remember 600m ISK it the base hull price.
I think the greater concern is the cheap cost with the very tiny vuln window per week. You can effectively make these stagers that are immune to being blown up. POS today are attackable anytime and you can eliminate hostile stagers. These things will have some tiny window in the middle of a week night and immune the rest of the week. A bit overpowered. Even at 3x the cost shown it would be overpowered.
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Creator of Burn Jita
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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1875
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Posted - 2015.10.26 16:54:02 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:CCP Ytterbium wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:Are those research/copy times in minutes or in seconds? Can't seem to find anything online to clarify those units. Seconds. If those were in minutes you would be waiting 1805 days to manufacture a X-L Citadel  . As Aryth pointed out this basically means that when you buy a 700b bpo, you make copies every 5 days (before bonuses). That means a single BPO will effectively flood the market with copies. It means that anyone buying a bpo will have more copies than they can possibly use, which they'll sell in jita...driving down the cost of a bpc to miniscule prices on your 700b bpo. It means it's a really dumb purchase and it's hard to even justify as a means to ensure you always have the ability to build an XL, or to make a profit, or really any reason. Its especially odd how much less time it is to copy these things than a titan bpo, which requires copies to be usable, and which costs 1/10th of what this costs. It puts these bpos in a really awkward spot for a 700b investment that just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. You don't get exclusivity, you don't have any hope of a profit, I'm not sure why anyone would buy one instead of waiting around for someone to not do the math.
I will point out we debated even mentioning this point. But as it stand I can see no one with any economic sense buying one of these BPOs. We plan to watch the market day 1 to see how many sold and forecast out.
Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.
Creator of Burn Jita
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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1876
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Posted - 2015.10.26 17:04:43 -
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Yeah, as Xttz said it needs to be at least a titan. Or failing that at least a month on the BPO baseline.
That is the area this makes economic sense and the market not blown out within 90-120 days.
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Creator of Burn Jita
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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1880
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Posted - 2015.10.27 00:03:59 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Querns wrote:
It's because we actually have relevant questions about small details that are easy and possible to answer. Most of the rest of the posting is complaining.
If it makes you feel any better, they didn't answer a few of mine.
Other people also have had relevant questions and do get nowhere near the Dev response time that goons have in this thread. So.... it's a fair complaint, even if your questions have all been pertinent.
It is likely many things. The ones Querns identified above. The fact that we have a longer history of exploiting or taking advantage of new mechanics than really anyone in the game. We give early, informed , and accurate feedback when we are presented with the option to do so. I also cannot think of a time any of the serious business characters have lied or even mislead in feedback.
Plus, we do run the largest coalition and alliance in the game. That probably helps too.
Nah, it is just because we are pro posters.
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