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Praetorious	Posted - 2006.12.31 01:42:00 - [1] Edited by: Praetorious on 31/12/2006 01:44:22 If you could choose 2 BS's, one for PvP (fleet and/or solo) and one for missions. Which ones would you choose?
xHalcyonx Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2006.12.31 01:44:00 - [2] PvE: Raven. Does missions fast, effeciently, and can choose damage type. PvP: Dominix. DomiNOS and drone-pwnage.
Aeaus Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.12.31 01:45:00 - [3] Well, I can't really, since PVP is so varied. Fleet Combat : Rokh / Hyperion Small Gang Combat : Vindicator / Dominix NPCing : Raven / Drake Tanking Survivability Calculator
Rehmes	Posted - 2006.12.31 01:45:00 - [4] Tempest for pvp Typhoon for both
Linnth	Posted - 2006.12.31 01:45:00 - [5] Edited by: Linnth on 31/12/2006 01:46:02 What if your drone skills suck or you can't fly Gallentean or Minmatar ships?
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2006.12.31 01:46:00 - [6] Raven wins missions hands down. PvP, I'd say tempest. Good in both small gangs and fleets. Solo too.
Aeaus Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.12.31 01:47:00 - [7] Originally by: Linnth What if your drone skills suck or you can't fly Gallentean ships? Fleet PVP : Rokh Gang PVP : Raven The Tempest and Armageddon can also be very good ships for either category. Tanking Survivability Calculator
Twin blade Minmatar The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2006.12.31 02:00:00 - [8] Tempest for Fleet Nanophoon PVP solo/small gang/mission's Simple as that, That been said i would like to try a blaster rokh soon in small gang's. !
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction	Posted - 2006.12.31 02:00:00 - [9] PVP - Armageddon - topping a killmail with a T1 setup is priceless. Missions - Raven - 100% damage type selection means most NPCs might as well structure tank.
Xori Ruscuv Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.31 02:16:00 - [10] Oh, BIG surprise. The majority of ships mentioned are: - missile + shield tank ships - NOS ships Except for the minority who mentioned things like the Tempest and Typhoon - and most of these people are already very good with their ships, have no ego problem with avoiding fights with overpowered ships, and are dedicated to their enjoyment of certain ships. My respect to them. It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it? This IS my main! I just did a portrait swap...
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.31 02:26:00 - [11] Rokh and Raven, as they both require not too much skill to get a good portion of their effectiveness. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
OrangeAfroMan Minmatar Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.12.31 03:22:00 - [12] Armageddon, Armageddon.
Tiuwaz Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.31 03:25:00 - [13] pve: corvus pvp: storm ___________________________________
Jiemmy Caldari j00's of Annihilation	Posted - 2006.12.31 03:29:00 - [14] Edited by: Jiemmy on 31/12/2006 03:29:50 gotta love the rokh although Raven, as most people said, is good for missions... but I just don't like how common they are rolls eyes tbh :P
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.12.31 03:42:00 - [15] PVE raven easily PvP is harder, for fleet the rohk, for ganks raven, it has ok damage plus strong tank, for medium gang work, geddon all the way, best isk for the buck. It outputs a huge amount of damage, has very nice tracking turrets, with tracking comps it can fire effectively at short to medium range so your fleet commander knows your dps is always on target, it can carry a good amount of rep drones to support people, the list goes on. In medium sized gang warfare, ou can't tank the damage if you are called primary, but you can with rep drone supprt, stay alive long to enough to make a difference. remeber, every volley that goes to you, is not hitting a gangmate. the 10% racial resist bonus to explosive is nice also.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.12.31 03:45:00 - [16] Originally by: Audri Fisher PVE raven easily PvP is harder, for fleet the rohk, for ganks raven, it has ok damage plus strong tank, for medium gang work, geddon all the way, best isk for the buck. It outputs a huge amount of damage, has very nice tracking turrets, with tracking comps it can fire effectively at short to medium range so your fleet commander knows your dps is always on target, it can carry a good amount of rep drones to support people, the list goes on. In medium sized gang warfare, ou can't tank the damage if you are called primary, but you can with rep drone supprt, stay alive long to enough to make a difference. remeber, every volley that goes to you, is not hitting a gangmate. the 10% racial resist bonus to explosive is nice also. Amarr get the worst 10% racial resist so you know, well except for a shield tanked ship. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew"
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.12.31 03:51:00 - [17] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Audri Fisher PVE raven easily PvP is harder, for fleet the rohk, for ganks raven, it has ok damage plus strong tank, for medium gang work, geddon all the way, best isk for the buck. It outputs a huge amount of damage, has very nice tracking turrets, with tracking comps it can fire effectively at short to medium range so your fleet commander knows your dps is always on target, it can carry a good amount of rep drones to support people, the list goes on. In medium sized gang warfare, ou can't tank the damage if you are called primary, but you can with rep drone supprt, stay alive long to enough to make a difference. remeber, every volley that goes to you, is not hitting a gangmate. the 10% racial resist bonus to explosive is nice also. Amarr get the worst 10% racial resist so you know, well except for a shield tanked ship. racial resist do not effect shieled. It is a non stack penalized bonus. you either want that to your resist hole, or your highest resist. the middle is bleh.
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific	Posted - 2006.12.31 04:24:00 - [18] PvE: Raven PvP: Rokh (Fleet) or Raven (Small gang) Originally by: Crumplecorn Wow, CCP make a change that eliminates whines and there are whines about the lack of whines.
Kalek Astroth Amarr The Electrocuted	Posted - 2006.12.31 04:51:00 - [19] pvp geddon (huge dmg vs price) and can shine in fleets and also in short range mission raven ratting dominix (you dont need ammo big cargo and can still be able to have 1vs1 even fitted for npc) my 2 cents
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.12.31 05:09:00 - [20] Originally by: Audri Fisher Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Audri Fisher PVE raven easily PvP is harder, for fleet the rohk, for ganks raven, it has ok damage plus strong tank, for medium gang work, geddon all the way, best isk for the buck. It outputs a huge amount of damage, has very nice tracking turrets, with tracking comps it can fire effectively at short to medium range so your fleet commander knows your dps is always on target, it can carry a good amount of rep drones to support people, the list goes on. In medium sized gang warfare, ou can't tank the damage if you are called primary, but you can with rep drone supprt, stay alive long to enough to make a difference. remeber, every volley that goes to you, is not hitting a gangmate. the 10% racial resist bonus to explosive is nice also. Amarr get the worst 10% racial resist so you know, well except for a shield tanked ship. racial resist do not effect shieled. It is a non stack penalized bonus. you either want that to your resist hole, or your highest resist. the middle is bleh. Ummm, no. Its still the worst resist bonus if its in your resist hole... ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew"
Ghoest	Posted - 2006.12.31 05:42:00 - [21] Tempest Raven Wherever you went - here you are.
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.12.31 05:54:00 - [22] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Audri Fisher Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Audri Fisher PVE raven easily PvP is harder, for fleet the rohk, for ganks raven, it has ok damage plus strong tank, for medium gang work, geddon all the way, best isk for the buck. It outputs a huge amount of damage, has very nice tracking turrets, with tracking comps it can fire effectively at short to medium range so your fleet commander knows your dps is always on target, it can carry a good amount of rep drones to support people, the list goes on. In medium sized gang warfare, ou can't tank the damage if you are called primary, but you can with rep drone supprt, stay alive long to enough to make a difference. remeber, every volley that goes to you, is not hitting a gangmate. the 10% racial resist bonus to explosive is nice also. Amarr get the worst 10% racial resist so you know, well except for a shield tanked ship. racial resist do not effect shieled. It is a non stack penalized bonus. you either want that to your resist hole, or your highest resist. the middle is bleh. Ummm, no. Its still the worst resist bonus if its in your resist hole... as opposed to?
Natasha Kerensky The Company Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.31 06:26:00 - [23] Originally by: Tiuwaz pve: corvus pvp: storm How come ive never heard of either of these ships?
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2006.12.31 06:54:00 - [24] Originally by: Natasha Kerensky Originally by: Tiuwaz pve: corvus pvp: storm How come ive never heard of either of these ships? Because you paid no attention to anything alliance tournament related Best Dressed Corp of 2006! -Marcus TheMartin
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.12.31 07:05:00 - [25] Edited by: Goumindong on 31/12/2006 07:04:47 Originally by: Audri Fisher as opposed to? Being a stronger bonus on the more resisted types. A 10% increase from 60% to 70% is a 25% resist bonus. A 10% increase from 10% to 20% is a 12.2% resist bonus. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew"
CaperPuts Minmatar Life. Universe. Everything. Astral Wolves	Posted - 2006.12.31 07:29:00 - [26] PvE = Raven... closely followed by my Typhoon PvP = Tempest lolz
OrangeAfroMan Minmatar Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.12.31 08:44:00 - [27] Amarr racial resist bonus is the best one IMO.
Captain Crimson Wisemen Foundation	Posted - 2006.12.31 09:37:00 - [28] Originally by: Natasha Kerensky Originally by: Tiuwaz pve: corvus pvp: storm How come ive never heard of either of these ships? Corvus is raven with loads of hp and 8 launcher slots, storm is tempest with loads of hp and 8 turret slots. BoBbins got two of each. 'What do you mean, where's the treasure? It's in this chest: ****ography and biscuits! Yarrr!'
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.12.31 17:52:00 - [29] Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 31/12/2006 07:04:47 Originally by: Audri Fisher as opposed to? Being a stronger bonus on the more resisted types. A 10% increase from 60% to 70% is a 25% resist bonus. A 10% increase from 10% to 20% is a 12.2% resist bonus. Nobody but ammar does em damage against armor though. Everybody and there mother has the ability to throw explosive damage at armor though, and often does. Omni tanking means that explosive is still the lowest resist on armor. So which is better, super resist on something that a few people shoots at, or good resist on something that everybody shoots at? (almost all ships either have a dronebay, or some missle hard points)
Outa Rileau	Posted - 2006.12.31 18:34:00 - [30] Edited by: Outa Rileau on 31/12/2006 18:38:36 Well... i'd choose a corvus for missions... and a federate issue megathron(♥entity) for pvp ------------------------- Getting Sig Removed / Rank 8 / SP: 762039 of 2048000

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