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Lord Rah 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2006.12.31 20:11:00 - [1] I did the trial and bought the game and enjoyed it until I went out into 0.4 and under. This game is really an awful experience for a newer player. What was CCP thinking getting new players to see this mess of a game? In-game and out of game on these forums I have met only the most introverted, anti-social gamers in any community. A few people try to help you out, but they can't help you avoid complete losers. Never before have I seen a game that endorses griefing other people in the community, telling upstanding people to follow rules but people who have been here longer break them on a daily basis. All in all I will not purchase another CCP product because I feel they have designed this game with the intent to satsify the group of people I hate most in any online game. I'm just glad you're all stuck here with your never-ending character development instead of coming in and ruining one of the great new releases in 2007. Now I feel like I got my $20 worth, I'm sure the trolls are going to jump right on this post. Eat it up guys, I wont be back again to your glee!
Hikari Kisugi Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.31 20:13:00 - [2] I like your signature. Looks like a lot of work went into it. Eve has a very steep learning curve, the difference in 0.5 and 0.4 space can be massive if you are ill prepared. I believe the client still retains a message to warn you of such when you first try to make that jump. People are not introverted, often once someone kills you, they will happy chat to you (smack you) for being their prey. ----- 'The worst spot in hell is reserved for those who betray.'
Zhecao Vai	Posted - 2006.12.31 20:14:00 - [3] *I HATE THIS GAME IM QUITTIN ITS NO GOOD BYE*
Mortuus Minmatar Just-fun	Posted - 2006.12.31 20:16:00 - [4] Best of luck in whatever game you play next that holds your hand all the way through. ex-Occassus Republica <3
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction	Posted - 2006.12.31 20:22:00 - [5] Don't hate the game just because you can't live up to it. This guy got owned. It happens. What makes us stronger than him is the fact that we adapt and overcome rather than run away to a sanitised world where the bad people are kept away by contrived game mechanics.
Zhecao Vai	Posted - 2006.12.31 20:27:00 - [6] Second place in the Special Olympics this year goes to the guy who feels that since he "adapts and overcomes" in an MMORPG, he is "stronger than" the fellow who stops playing it because he doesn't like it.
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction	Posted - 2006.12.31 20:30:00 - [7] Originally by: Zhecao Vai Second place in the Special Olympics this year goes to the guy who feels that since he "adapts and overcomes" in an MMORPG, he is "stronger than" the fellow who stops playing it because he doesn't like it. Yep. That's right. Because in this environment, I really am better.
Drakonei	Posted - 2006.12.31 20:34:00 - [8] Originally by: Zhecao Vai Second place in the Special Olympics this year goes to the guy who feels that since he "adapts and overcomes" in an MMORPG, he is "stronger than" the fellow who stops playing it because he doesn't like it. One person encounters a challenge, and walks away from it. The other(s) put the effort in, and overcomes it. And has fun in the process. I think there are too many people around who will criticise others just because they dont agree with your definition of fun.
Anferney	Posted - 2006.12.31 20:35:00 - [9] Originally by: Zhecao Vai Second place in the Special Olympics this year goes to the guy who feels that since he "adapts and overcomes" in an MMORPG, he is "stronger than" the fellow who stops playing it because he doesn't like it. It sounds like the individual enjoyed it until they left high-sec and got hit up by some pirates. In other words, the OP was incapable of 'adapting' and thus 'died' in the only sense that works in an MMORPG. Now I am just afraid of CCP catering to these types since they are the majority of MMORPG players ('I don't want to lose my hard earned loot...I don't want there to be serious consequences for my poor strategy.').
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.12.31 20:42:00 - [10] Edited by: Goumindong on 31/12/2006 20:42:55 Originally by: Lord Rah Never before have I seen a game that endorses griefing other people in the community, telling upstanding people to follow rules but people who have been here longer break them on a daily basis Then break the rules. You can be a competent pirate within a single day with the Kali changes. Roll up a rifter pilot, stick some autocannons on there and get a looting. Or better yet, get some friends and toast the meanies that hit you. Find some lowsec system with a station and make it fortress carebear. When pirates show up, warp in 10 to 15 drakes or ravens or punishers, or whatever and show them who is boss. Follow the Goonswarm example. GS does not work because noobs suck and cant do anything. They work because anyone with a minimal amount of experience, when tossed in with 10+ other guys is a formidable force. You want to carebear it up? Stick to empire and try to avoid getting war dec'd by an empire pirate corp[and if you do get wardec'd purchase the services of a mercenary corp to run escorts for you]. Find a system with a station[out of the way systems are best] and make it fortress carebear. Join a 0.0 alliance and call in even bigger, meaner guns when you get threatened. Lay traps. [My personal favorite being the "mining dominix" for sheer stupidity on your opponents part, followed closly by the Battle Badger/Bestower, also known as "OH MY LORD, THIS HAULER HAS EW!" then followed by the Prophecy of ultimate cap destruction(6 med nos, 1 small nos, mwd/web/scram, mar/mar/ex/therm/kin/ean + EW drones)] And then carebear it up with the added profits from those foolish pirates who dared challenging your carebearing ways. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew"
Benglada Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.31 21:00:00 - [11] Theres two people in eve. People who got blown up and said "OMGGRIEF BBSS UNFAIR OMG LEAVING" And the people who say "Wow, That owned, i want to be able to do that one day" Guess which stay and which dont --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Cipher7	Posted - 2006.12.31 21:03:00 - [12] That's disgraceful. Look at your nice sig, and your nice bada$$ name. I've fought 1PG before, they are some of the best Amarr loyalist players in the game. You don't deserve that corp, that name or that sig. Get out and don't come back.
Cupertino Castellum	Posted - 2006.12.31 21:40:00 - [13] Quote: This game is really an awful experience for a newer player. What was CCP thinking getting new players to see this mess of a game? Translation: OP went to PvP zone of MMOG and got PvPed by PvPers, and he's taken it really, really badly. Also, can I have your sig? And your stuff? Oh wait no, you lost your stuff to ebil pirates already
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction	Posted - 2006.12.31 21:42:00 - [14] Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 31/12/2006 21:43:38 Originally by: Goumindong Find some lowsec system with a station and make it fortress carebear. When pirates show up, warp in 10 to 15 drakes or ravens or punishers, or whatever and show them who is boss. To elaborate on that important point, that's exactly what some new friends have done in a couple of out of the way low secs. My corp cleared it out, they moved in after agreeing to pay a weekly fee. Most of them have only been playing a few months, but they can all use scanner, they have a 20-30 strong intel channel and when a neutral pops into Local, it's dead if it lands in a belt. They do sometimes lose ships, but they run their own ops and kill stuff as large as battlecruisers (the PVP setup nossing plated sort), and chase out stuff like AFs pretty regularly. Even though they are miners, I am grudgingly proud of them. Every day I log in, I see living proof that carebears can do low sec if they put their minds to it and actually undock in a gang. I wouldn't heisitate to recommend low sec to the new players of today, even those playing since autumn, so long as they find a like-minded group and look out for each other. But witness the magnitude of the OP's failure to succeed. To be discouraged at the first hurdle? At the very first instance of risk that any new player runs? Especially to those of us who have lost ships to CONCORD or sentries because of a momentary lapse, this is a sorry sight indeed. One thing is for sure, I don't envy where he is going - to some game where the local equivalent of high sec L4s and hauling loot to Jita is the only activity on offer.
Tharrn Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.01.01 01:24:00 - [15] Or maybe just tell your corp what happened :s Now recruiting!
Adoro Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.01 01:47:00 - [16] Originally by: Benglada Theres two people in eve. People who got blown up and said "OMGGRIEF BBSS UNFAIR OMG LEAVING" And the people who say "Wow, That owned, i want to be able to do that one day" Guess which stay and which dont Im so happy im still the second person :) At OP, go your way. More games out there, enjoy them... -------- Originally by: ChalSto underestimate us one second and u¦ll mine veldspar in empire for the rest of ur eve-life The LV way
Majestik Gallente Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.01.01 02:33:00 - [17] Edited by: Majestik on 01/01/2007 02:35:26 Edited by: Majestik on 01/01/2007 02:34:50 Originally by: Lord Rah I wont be back again to your glee! Yes you will...... The pizza I just had delivered was $20.
Mayoz Miner	Posted - 2007.01.01 03:09:00 - [18] Not the game for you, maybe you need something like WoW where you can just kill AI if you want. I'm what you might call a 'carebear' but if there was no risk and I knew that I was completely safe where ever I wanted to go, it would take the fun out of being a 'carebear' tbh This game is one of the best there is if not the best, I could see that as soon as I started playing it and I have played a few MMO's for a number of years, but maybe it just not for you, it can be selective.
Agrikaan Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.01.01 04:59:00 - [19] Originally by: Tharrn Or maybe just tell your corp what happened :s Yeah, one could start with that, especially as we would have replaced any lost ship and equipment. Lord Rah was a very fresh recruit that I actually thought had a good spirit and showed lots of promise. I guess even us Amarr can be wrong. And that some Amarr don't have the endurance or stamina to cope with a small setback. Joining an openly pure RP PvP corp that operates in unsecure space kind of should set the expactions right at start. What's the Empire coming to, when pilots of such weak caliber can get a license... Now recruting!
Lord Rah 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.01.01 16:42:00 - [20] Whatever, Pong has a better multiplayer potential than this piece of crap. 1PG is a great corp, that had nothing to do with me leaving though. In a game where you cannot advance past the guy who started a day before you I can't see how staying around is going to help you get "better." I play Battlefield 2142 and find it a billion times more fun in the short term and long term, maybe that's just me though. I'm done whining, take care all.
SonOTassadar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.01.01 16:49:00 - [21] Another one bites the dust And another one gone, another one gone Another one bites the dust! Hey! I'm gonna getcha, too Another one bites the dust! ----- Griffin -- 100,000 ISK ECM - Multispectral Jammer Is -- 20,000 ISK Standar Missile Launcher Is -- 10,000 ISK War target sobbing over losing a fight in his T2 fitted Battleship -- priceless
Isyel Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.01.01 17:23:00 - [22] Yawn. Oh and, no i'm not a pirate, i rather hunt them gatecamping bastards. So everyone's an antisocial introverted ass? Alright, and why did you have to post again? Thought you were gone... sigh Some people... 1PG, i feel sorry for you guys, you deserve better. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want both anti-social and social players to grief each other!
Zurtur Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.01 17:33:00 - [23] Edited by: Zurtur on 01/01/2007 17:34:37 Originally by: Lord Rah Whatever, Pong has a better multiplayer potential than this piece of crap. 1PG is a great corp, that had nothing to do with me leaving though. In a game where you cannot advance past the guy who started a day before you I can't see how staying around is going to help you get "better." I play Battlefield 2142 and find it a billion times more fun in the short term and long term, maybe that's just me though. I'm done whining, take care all. Ehm, did you even play EvE at all? You can create an absolutelly new alt and own players that play for 1+ year, IF you do it right. I think you totally missunderstood EvE... And how can staying longer NOT help you? You get to know what your opponents use and how to counter them only by staying around and fighting them multiple times, you tweak your setup as you advance, as you can use better items, as you learn how it works best. If you are in good corp, ask people around you, I'm sure some will help you see what you are totally missing. Z - Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr When my armor repair's itself, then you can come moan about that.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.01 17:41:00 - [24] Originally by: Benglada Theres two people in eve. People who got blown up and said "OMGGRIEF BBSS UNFAIR OMG LEAVING" And the people who say "Wow, That owned, i want to be able to do that one day" Guess which stay and which dont The best post in this thread. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Verus Potestas Caldari The I-Win Button	Posted - 2007.01.01 17:44:00 - [25] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Benglada Theres two people in eve. People who got blown up and said "OMGGRIEF BBSS UNFAIR OMG LEAVING" And the people who say "Wow, That owned, i want to be able to do that one day" Guess which stay and which dont The best post in this thread. This week tbh. --- In third-party forums we trust Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
Miner Bare	Posted - 2007.01.01 17:50:00 - [26] I just want to know why you are in a corp and an alliance if only 'a few people' help you? Either you are fibbing just a bit or they really suck. Guess which one I go with? I will never understand people who do this. Don't like the game? Move on.
PKlavins Caldari 3rdlane Industries Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.01 17:52:00 - [27] Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Benglada Theres two people in eve. People who got blown up and said "OMGGRIEF BBSS UNFAIR OMG LEAVING" And the people who say "Wow, That owned, i want to be able to do that one day" Guess which stay and which dont The best post in this thread. This week tbh. Best Post of 2007! (so far ) but to the OP...that's what eve is like. the client warns you when entering 0.4 or below. there is no rule in the game that says u have to enter dangerous space. heck, be a trader/miner and stay in empire, you said urself that you enjoyed it... T3 Cakes for Mods in This Sig! first -eris
Galk Gallente Autumn Tactics All the things she said	Posted - 2007.01.01 17:52:00 - [28] Extremely narrow minded if you truley belive there are only 2 types of people that play eve. Im neither of those two.. i suspect im not alone in that either The new player experience, i just wouldn't want to be there these days.... The game used to have a lot of friendly types... probaly still does... but due to the questionable methods used to kick people down.. the friendly types more often than not get ignored by new people anyway. The op does have a point though, it's hard to not agree if your view is that of an objective one. This game, reguardless of what you think of it... does attract the bottom feeders of online gamming, it's perfectly made for them. Thats his view... and often mine. ______
S0LO	Posted - 2007.01.01 18:45:00 - [29] Im i new player ive been playing about three weeks and went into low sec the other day,lost my ship and got podded.I have to say its was most exitement ive had in an onlne game for ages.And i know i could of beat the guy.It made me laugh so much though the guy blows up my ship and threatens to pod me...lol..i mean my ship was worth much more than a clone...lol.
Kopach	Posted - 2007.01.01 18:55:00 - [30] I`ve played few MMORPGs for years and I must say EvE looked most mature game to me , when I started that is..few months ago. Of course when I went to low and 0.0 I realized quick that it has the same amount of retards as every other MMO outthere hehe. I never liked PvP and in EvE is the worst I`ve seen it. This is becouse non-pvpers like me see PvP as just that.. Player vs Player as in.. 1 on 1. Of course we know that this allmost never hapens and its usualy 10 on 1 and that not gonna work for me becouse I want to play this game solo. I`ve been part of many guilds in different games before , I`ve been Raid leader , Guild leader etc. So playing with other people in groups or leading them became "been there done that" kind of thing for me so I decided to take a relaxed-solo-few hours a day gaming approach with this particular game and I`m sticking to it. Rating in 0.0 is not bad , but it gets old fast when you have to play the game like a paranoiac , and even that wont help you save your ships when you are solo. This means high sec missioning for me and I`m fine with that...for now. First second I get bored thats gonna be it though.

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