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BiONetworks
Caldari e X i l e
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Posted - 2007.01.01 09:08:00 -
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Edited by: BiONetworks on 01/01/2007 09:09:05 Video tutorial of the best way to beat a bubble camp and -7 scramble

Click here for teh pretty vid
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Trespasser
Caldari e X i l e
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Posted - 2007.01.01 09:10:00 -
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Edited by: Trespasser on 01/01/2007 09:11:28 i hate people that do this..
Edit: First :D
My name is Trespasser and I approved this Message!
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Skaoi
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Posted - 2007.01.01 10:50:00 -
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I know what ill be doing from now on lol
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Imhotep Khem
Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 12:49:00 -
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That was pretty funny. Though there could have been a clearer indication of the logoff. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'. |

Shi Mun
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2007.01.01 13:09:00 -
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lol. --------------------------- HAHA! your jammers suck now! Oh wait whats happening to my scorpion... |

Verus Potestas
Caldari The I-Win Button
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Posted - 2007.01.01 14:23:00 -
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Classic.
I hate lumberjacks 
--- In third-party forums we trust
Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
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Raptorweb
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Posted - 2007.01.01 16:32:00 -
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here is a higher res version from evefiles
High Res
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.01 16:35:00 -
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CCP please fix aggro timer kthx 
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2007.01.01 18:04:00 -
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There should be a way to have a chance to get past gate bubble camps shouldn't there? Logoffski isn;t the right one but until there is an option to prevent weeenies like you who camp gates with a bunch of very safe or cheap ships ( inty's and pilgrim very safe ships to play and a cruiser is diret cheap... hell inty is dirt cheap as well ) I am glad loggoffski exists. Grow a pair of balls stop exploiting IWIN mechanics of eve ( excessive webbing, and scrambling ) so you can ULTRA safely pwn solo and duo's of players and this might not happen.
Heck actually play a ship that takes some guts to play and you would have killed the guy easily before he logged. As log as you expect to pwn battleships with drones, and cheap fast safe ships expect to have logoffski work sometimes and it seems totaly fair to be honest. Scramblers, bubbles and webbing should have never been implemen ted as 100% hit modules.
So in the end next time dump a recon, cruiser and inty replacee them with battleships and logoffskis wont survive long enough, to warp out Oh ya those people in battleships might actually be at risk at some point but that is eve isnt it?
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Anna Grahm
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Posted - 2007.01.01 18:10:00 -
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Tip to the moron who made the video:
$60,000.00 ISK reads:
"Sixty thousand dollars ISK" - Don't be an idiot.
CTRL+Q FTW
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BiONetworks
Caldari e X i l e
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Posted - 2007.01.01 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Anna Grahm Tip to the moron who made the video:
$60,000.00 ISK reads:
"Sixty thousand dollars ISK" - Don't be an idiot.
CTRL+Q FTW
Not sure if you noticed but last night was new years. yea i was a little drunk so k thanx for the harsh comments for a little mistake. thanx bud.
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Raptorweb
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Posted - 2007.01.01 18:19:00 -
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Remind me again how a pilgrim is less of a risk then a BS and even if it wasnt 100% chance every time im sure we had enough there to stop him
Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2 There should be a way to have a chance to get past gate bubble camps shouldn't there? Logoffski isn;t the right one but until there is an option to prevent weeenies like you who camp gates with a bunch of very safe or cheap ships ( inty's and pilgrim very safe ships to play and a cruiser is diret cheap... hell inty is dirt cheap as well ) I am glad loggoffski exists. Grow a pair of balls stop exploiting IWIN mechanics of eve ( excessive webbing, and scrambling ) so you can ULTRA safely pwn solo and duo's of players and this might not happen.
Heck actually play a ship that takes some guts to play and you would have killed the guy easily before he logged. As log as you expect to pwn battleships with drones, and cheap fast safe ships expect to have logoffski work sometimes and it seems totaly fair to be honest. Scramblers, bubbles and webbing should have never been implemen ted as 100% hit modules.
So in the end next time dump a recon, cruiser and inty replacee them with battleships and logoffskis wont survive long enough, to warp out Oh ya those people in battleships might actually be at risk at some point but that is eve isnt it?
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.01 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2 There should be a way to have a chance to get past gate bubble camps shouldn't there? Logoffski isn;t the right one but until there is an option to prevent weeenies like you who camp gates with a bunch of very safe or cheap ships ( inty's and pilgrim very safe ships to play and a cruiser is diret cheap... hell inty is dirt cheap as well ) I am glad loggoffski exists. Grow a pair of balls stop exploiting IWIN mechanics of eve ( excessive webbing, and scrambling ) so you can ULTRA safely pwn solo and duo's of players and this might not happen.
Heck actually play a ship that takes some guts to play and you would have killed the guy easily before he logged. As log as you expect to pwn battleships with drones, and cheap fast safe ships expect to have logoffski work sometimes and it seems totaly fair to be honest. Scramblers, bubbles and webbing should have never been implemen ted as 100% hit modules.
So in the end next time dump a recon, cruiser and inty replacee them with battleships and logoffskis wont survive long enough, to warp out Oh ya those people in battleships might actually be at risk at some point but that is eve isnt it?
Seriously just gtfo Best Dressed Corp of 2006! -Marcus TheMartin
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Voculus
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:11:00 -
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You seriously need to work on your cinematography skills. It took over 30 seconds for you to rip-off the over-used, and now unfunny Mastercard intro, before we saw any video. _________________________________________________________
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Eralus
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2 There should be a way to have a chance to get past gate bubble camps shouldn't there?
There is. It's called, show up with a superior force. If you don't have a superior force, then you can't get through the gate. Simple as that.
0.0 is PvP space. If a group of people want to bubble-camp a gate, then you can't expect to fly your miner through there by yourself. That's just the way it is.
If anybody can get anywhere all the time, then you've just got empire all over again. _____ Lifewire is a big, ugly, mean... carebear. |

Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2 There should be a way to have a chance to get past gate bubble camps shouldn't there? Logoffski isn;t the right one but until there is an option to prevent weeenies like you who camp gates with a bunch of very safe or cheap ships ( inty's and pilgrim very safe ships to play and a cruiser is diret cheap... hell inty is dirt cheap as well ) I am glad loggoffski exists. Grow a pair of balls stop exploiting IWIN mechanics of eve ( excessive webbing, and scrambling ) so you can ULTRA safely pwn solo and duo's of players and this might not happen.
Heck actually play a ship that takes some guts to play and you would have killed the guy easily before he logged. As log as you expect to pwn battleships with drones, and cheap fast safe ships expect to have logoffski work sometimes and it seems totaly fair to be honest. Scramblers, bubbles and webbing should have never been implemen ted as 100% hit modules.
So in the end next time dump a recon, cruiser and inty replacee them with battleships and logoffskis wont survive long enough, to warp out Oh ya those people in battleships might actually be at risk at some point but that is eve isnt it?
So how do you suggest alliances defend their territory from outsiders wanting to gank their miners? --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |

Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2 There should be a way to have a chance to get past gate bubble camps shouldn't there? Logoffski isn;t the right one but until there is an option to prevent weeenies like you who camp gates with a bunch of very safe or cheap ships ( inty's and pilgrim very safe ships to play and a cruiser is diret cheap... hell inty is dirt cheap as well ) I am glad loggoffski exists. Grow a pair of balls stop exploiting IWIN mechanics of eve ( excessive webbing, and scrambling ) so you can ULTRA safely pwn solo and duo's of players and this might not happen.
Heck actually play a ship that takes some guts to play and you would have killed the guy easily before he logged. As log as you expect to pwn battleships with drones, and cheap fast safe ships expect to have logoffski work sometimes and it seems totaly fair to be honest. Scramblers, bubbles and webbing should have never been implemen ted as 100% hit modules.
So in the end next time dump a recon, cruiser and inty replacee them with battleships and logoffskis wont survive long enough, to warp out Oh ya those people in battleships might actually be at risk at some point but that is eve isnt it?
You chose you play an MMO solo, others choose to play with others.
Where do you get the balls to say you deserve to have something to make you immune to superior numbers? When the logoffski tactic dies, will you quit?
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Constantine Arcanum
Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2 There should be a way to have a chance to get past gate bubble camps shouldn't there? Logoffski isn;t the right one but until there is an option to prevent weeenies like you who camp gates with a bunch of very safe or cheap ships ( inty's and pilgrim very safe ships to play and a cruiser is diret cheap... hell inty is dirt cheap as well ) I am glad loggoffski exists. Grow a pair of balls stop exploiting IWIN mechanics of eve ( excessive webbing, and scrambling ) so you can ULTRA safely pwn solo and duo's of players and this might not happen.
Heck actually play a ship that takes some guts to play and you would have killed the guy easily before he logged. As log as you expect to pwn battleships with drones, and cheap fast safe ships expect to have logoffski work sometimes and it seems totaly fair to be honest. Scramblers, bubbles and webbing should have never been implemen ted as 100% hit modules.
So in the end next time dump a recon, cruiser and inty replacee them with battleships and logoffskis wont survive long enough, to warp out Oh ya those people in battleships might actually be at risk at some point but that is eve isnt it?
You're really clueless aren't you?
GTFO.
I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes |

Drachenlord
Amarr e X i l e
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2 There should be a way to have a chance to get past gate bubble camps shouldn't there? Logoffski isn;t the right one but until there is an option to prevent weeenies like you who camp gates with a bunch of very safe or cheap ships ( inty's and pilgrim very safe ships to play and a cruiser is diret cheap... hell inty is dirt cheap as well ) I am glad loggoffski exists. Grow a pair of balls stop exploiting IWIN mechanics of eve ( excessive webbing, and scrambling ) so you can ULTRA safely pwn solo and duo's of players and this might not happen.
Heck actually play a ship that takes some guts to play and you would have killed the guy easily before he logged. As log as you expect to pwn battleships with drones, and cheap fast safe ships expect to have logoffski work sometimes and it seems totaly fair to be honest. Scramblers, bubbles and webbing should have never been implemen ted as 100% hit modules.
So in the end next time dump a recon, cruiser and inty replacee them with battleships and logoffskis wont survive long enough, to warp out Oh ya those people in battleships might actually be at risk at some point but that is eve isnt it?
LOL, that just sounds like someone who's bitter for getting popped at gate camps...
abuse of a game mechanic like this is bad, also, if you didnt notice, he didnt warp off... he just disappeared... and 2 200m isk Recon's that are fragile and a Sabre are hardly Safe ships.... and inty's die fast under drones.... face facts, ppl that log off before they're aggressed are cowards who abuse game mechanics to save their carebear arses. -------------------------------------------------
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:44:00 -
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LOL, no never killed at gate camps. Look all I see is a bunch of lamers who think spawn camping is PVP. you GTFO seriously. Seriously this is one of the biggest problem with eve, people like you who think spawn camping with 6+ is pvp. Any good pvp game implments something to remove such a lame tactic, it is as old as the day is long, and long considered one of the lamest iterations of pvp. The sooner CCP gets a clue and revamps pvp so that spawn camping is the main form of pvp, the sooner eve might become a credible pvp game.
But hey keep on whining that you can't sit there all day long and pwn 100% people spawning in. still comes down tot he fact you cowards even with your small mob couldnt kill an afk raven before it warped. So put yourself at risk use some big slow ships with some real firepower and you won;t have to whine.
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Ikvar
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:45:00 -
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Does anyone else really, really hate people writing
$xxx,xxx,xxx ISK
Where the hell did dollars come from?
Originally by: Rekindle I was in an empire system when they used their grief tactics to explode everything I own.
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Sagnius
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:48:00 -
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you can beat a bubble camp in an interdictor, not sure if its an exploit or not, but ill let you figure it out 
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MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:53:00 -
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People need to stop using the GTFO word. You should be warned for using it, we all know what it means. -=====-
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Raptorweb
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Posted - 2007.01.01 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2 LOL, no never killed at gate camps. Look all I see is a bunch of lamers who think spawn camping is PVP. you GTFO seriously. Seriously this is one of the biggest problem with eve, people like you who think spawn camping with 6+ is pvp. Any good pvp game implments something to remove such a lame tactic, it is as old as the day is long, and long considered one of the lamest iterations of pvp. The sooner CCP gets a clue and revamps pvp so that spawn camping is the main form of pvp, the sooner eve might become a credible pvp game.
But hey keep on whining that you can't sit there all day long and pwn 100% people spawning in. still comes down tot he fact you cowards even with your small mob couldnt kill an afk raven before it warped. So put yourself at risk use some big slow ships with some real firepower and you won;t have to whine.
a better game for pvp like ... WoW ... pretty sure the last time i spawned it was in a station after getting podded never after jumping into a system
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Lord Sid
Minmatar Lordless
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Posted - 2007.01.01 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2 ...Logoffski isn;t the right one but until there is an option to prevent weeenies like you who camp gates with a bunch of very safe or cheap ships ( inty's and pilgrim very safe ships to play and a cruiser is diret cheap... hell inty is dirt cheap as well ) I am glad loggoffski exists. Grow a pair of balls stop exploiting IWIN mechanics of eve ( excessive webbing, and scrambling ) so you can ULTRA safely pwn solo and duo's of players and this might not happen. ...
Where exactly are you supposed to fight if not at gates? They are the choke point of the game. If you want to eliminate camping eliminate gates. You can try hunting miners in belts but that's rather boring, if your goal is sport. Or even better hunt the mission runner in the area.
If people are willing to commit the resources to camp and block all entrance through a gate, then it should be possible. There's not any reason that someone has the right to pass through a gate. They pay to play eve, access to all territory is not guaranteed.
The advantage should be to the camper and not the jumper. Its not fair and it shouldn't be. Especially in 0.0.
There's no sense in doing something half-assed and it's ridiculous that you think someone should fit their ship and fleet so that they "might" loose just to be fair to the other guy. Get real. -=Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds=- |

Spy4Hire
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Posted - 2007.01.01 21:35:00 -
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Logoffski is 100% valid, the devs have said so, time and time again.
Me, I'll do it... with unarmed haulers (not likely to survive anyway), freighters (good chance), and any time I jump my combat ship into a blob that has me so badly outnumbered that I'm in structure before my gatecloak drops (lag). Coming through a gate and seeing a dozen bubbles and 50 ships... heck yeah, logoff time.
If I think I can escape, or at least take out one of the campers before I pop, I'm gonna stick it out and hope for the best even if it is suicide.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.01 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 01/01/2007 21:36:32
Originally by: Spy4Hire Logoffski is 100% valid, the devs have said so, time and time again.
Wrong.
Logoffski in a bubble or before-aggression-timer-activates is a bug and is not valid, but they will not take petitions about it because there is no way for them to verify it.
Now if only CCP would get off their arses and fix the bug.
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Nero Scuro
Caldari Murder of Crows E N I G M A
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Posted - 2007.01.01 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Nero Scuro on 01/01/2007 21:44:05
Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2 LOL, no never killed at gate camps. Look all I see is a bunch of lamers who think spawn camping is PVP. you GTFO seriously. Seriously this is one of the biggest problem with eve, people like you who think spawn camping with 6+ is pvp. Any good pvp game implments something to remove such a lame tactic, it is as old as the day is long, and long considered one of the lamest iterations of pvp. The sooner CCP gets a clue and revamps pvp so that spawn camping is the main form of pvp, the sooner eve might become a credible pvp game.
But hey keep on whining that you can't sit there all day long and pwn 100% people spawning in. still comes down tot he fact you cowards even with your small mob couldnt kill an afk raven before it warped. So put yourself at risk use some big slow ships with some real firepower and you won;t have to whine.
Haha, are you stupid or what?
1. They aren't 'spawn' camping. EVE isn't a FPS.
2. The Raven DIDN'T warp off.
3. The Raven wasn't AFK.
4. It logged off, because it was scrambled. It then disappeared.
5. What does having slow ships have to do with anything?
6. Recons are more expensive than BS with weaker tanks. So why would flying one in PvP make you a coward?
7. EVE isn't a credible PvP game? WTF!? It's the ONLY MMO PvP game atm. The others are PvE games with weak, consequence-less PvP thrown in.
Please, grow a clue. ___
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2007.01.01 21:46:00 -
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"a better game for pvp like ... WoW ... pretty sure the last time i spawned it was in a station after getting podded never after jumping into a system"
PRetty sure you have no clue what spawning is then. Because everytime you change systems in eve you ZONE, which means you load a new area and thus the game must spawn your ship into the new system. Which is why people camp the gates because they know your sitting duck when you load into their overwhleming numbers.
Since you mention it WOW pvp is actually superior to eve in most everyway, not my cup of tea but it is still obviously better, unless you are a waanker who likes spawn camping that is...
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2007.01.01 21:53:00 -
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"Where exactly are you supposed to fight if not at gates? They are the choke point of the game. If you want to eliminate camping eliminate gates. You can try hunting miners in belts but that's rather boring, if your goal is sport. Or even better hunt the mission runner in the area."
>>>Please dont confuse the concept of fighting at gates with camping gates. Here is a novel idea how about fighting other people who want to fight instead of constaly looking for people unprepared and not wanting to fight? Mind boggling I know but it is how most every other pvp game works....
"If people are willing to commit the resources to camp and block all entrance through a gate, then it should be possible. There's not any reason that someone has the right to pass through a gate. They pay to play eve, access to all territory is not guaranteed."
>>>No it shouldnt be possible, especially in 0.0. Your supposed to be at risk EVERYONE IS, you should not be able to create carebearland 2.0 in 0.0 by humping the gates.
"The advantage should be to the camper and not the jumper. Its not fair and it shouldn't be. Especially in 0.0."
>>> No there should not be an advantage to the camper, they are stagnant locked into their plan the only reason you get the advantage when camping a gate is you get to attack blind people who have spawned in. HEre try this go camp a belt in some enemies system in 0.0 see what kind of advantage you get from camping.....
"There's no sense in doing something half-assed and it's ridiculous that you think someone should fit their ship and fleet so that they "might" loose just to be fair to the other guy. Get real."
>>> no idea wtf your talking about the point is people exploiting a basic game mechanic to attain extreme advantage by spawn camping.
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