Bumping should only cause damage to the buming ship. NOT the ship being bumped.

It lives!

No, I'm saying it's the end of the work day, I'm bored so I started trolling. I appologize. Please contact Leto for verification of my slow work day trolling. I've tried to stop on several occaisions, but I just can't.

I really don't care who does what to freighters.

Im not a "codie". Im not even a ganker, or "bumper".

In the past year or so, so many content nerfs have smacked this game in the face. The AWOX nerf, the cancerous LY changes to capitals (fatigue was needed, but the LY changes are terrible), the citadel stuff looks pretty bad IMHO -- yeah I know its not done... but "Asset relocation"? CTFO. Hyperdunking. Yet still some people cry for nerfs to highsec wardeccing. Others want nerfs to bumping... Seriously where does it come to the point that the game has nothing left for the bad guys to do? Do you play games on easy just to win? I ******* dont.

I play EVE because I want to have the dangerous aspects there. I dont want to print free ISK while AFK hauling or mining. I dont want my stuff to magically reappear if my alliance loses its Citadel. Loss matters. Or it did, anyhow. So yeah, last nail in the coffin. One day, not too far from now, everyone who called for all these nerfs and cried for joy at the end of the ebil piwates will merrily afk their way to riches, grow insanely bored from the fact that nobody can hurt you, and quit. Because thats not freakin FUN.

"We do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard." - JFK

^ Applies.

There is. You are spending $15 a month to watch planets go past your ship, very, very slowly.

One thing to consider: How would bumping be changed? What I like: If you initiate warp, after some longish time, you will always warp, irrelevant of your velocity. Say, after two minutes.

With this change, a ship on autopilot, heading for the gate, is still just as vulnerable as now. Also, a ship being piloted can still be delayed from entering warp, giving time for proper tackle to arrive. But endlessly bumping a ship, with little recourse for the pilot, goes away.

lovely those end of eve tears from some ppl.

Freighter bumping is aggression-free tackle. That's problematic. You shouldn't be able to tackle another ship permanently without consequences.

So you are saying I can park my ship at the Jita undock, and every ship that runs into me takes damage? Cool! Will I get killmails?

If even Vincent Athena gets why your idea is flawed you should probably biomass.

Have caught few carriers by just undocking machariel and bumping the cap out of range of docking. I would be sad to see this go away or get nerfed :(

Eve is getting safer and safer, and subscription numbers aren't really going up are they?

Why? Because you say so?

simple solution - anyone attacked in highsec, causing the attackers to get GCC gets a 60 second free warp away period once concord shows, unaffected by bumping. Consider it a police escort.

Because Eve is a harsh world where actions have consequences.

I agree: bumpers are that consequence.

From a game design perspective freighters have to be vulnerable to something and have to have some special downsides or no one would fly anything else. Whether CCP changes that to some other form of tackle, slower CONCORD response, or something completely different, freighters are always going to require extra protection while flying to mitigate the "consequences" of failing to protect them.

Bumping is just a scapegoat used by those not wanting to take precautions to protect thier freighter. If bumping was changed, freighter pilots will just complain about whatever other mechanic or weakness CCP gives freighters next and demand "consequences" if people use that weakness to kill their ship.

This is a PvP game. Why should there be "consequences" for tackling someone to facilitate that PvP beyond what the other players inflict? CONCORD only punishes remember, it does not protect and that includes bumpers.

Newsflash: Ganking freighters is perfectly viable even without bumping. You should ask Russians for some guidelines.
However it is harder then easy mode crap you have today and sec status actually matters (can't camp on gate in hisec if it is too low). We wouldn't want to force codies into fixing sec statuses every now and then just to perform freighter ganks now, would we? That would mean that there are some actual consequences of what they do, and introducing consequences would be too theme park like, right?

Newsflash: Ganking freighters is perfectly viable even without bumping. You should ask Russians for some guidelines.
However it is harder then easy mode crap you have today and sec status actually matters (can't camp on gate in hisec if it is too low). We wouldn't want to force codies into fixing sec statuses every now and then just to perform freighter ganks now, would we? That would mean that there are some actual consequences of what they do, and introducing consequences would be too theme park like, right?

On second thought, who cares about bumping?

As things stand it is broken that participents in a heist (bumpers) don't get suspect flagged - lets be fair, demanding immunity from consequences is exactly what carebears do so its a bit rich to suggest freighter jacking should be risk free.

I'd like to see high-sec piracy become a legitimate enabled mechanic, but it needs to be balanced to give victims an option to use military escorts and fight back.