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Harumi Akiga
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:05:02 -
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Ok need help desperately !!!
I don't know what those guys at CCP did to scanning today but as !!!! 3 years old player who deployes probes and scans pretty well every single day!!!!! I cannot do anything now. After deploying probes i go to map - of course old one as i utterly hate new one in beta version or not. What i was doing then was seting up my probes, adjusting postitioning and scan range and of course easily scanning down anything i wanted in very short time.
WHAT IS NOW IS TOTAL JOKE.
Can't move probe, can't change scan range, can't see sphere around probe to predict possible scanning results like before. Basically EVERYTHING , every single scanning feature has been removed from my UI.
Not only that ! There was no real warning that such disaster is incoming. No tips no hints how to operate in this new ****** system.
What now ? After 3 years of succesful probing i have to do tuturial again ?! Really !?
Yes it's rant ... i was doing scanning before - now im shutdown.
Please tell me how to scan ... i beg ... |
Sacu Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:05:45 -
[2] - Quote
er...its been available on the test server, has it not?
Trying it out now. Seems similar, just have to press 'shift' once to get the arrows up to move probes as a group (dont hold shift, just press and release and arrows appear...) |
Harumi Akiga
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:08:36 -
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Sacu Shi wrote:er...its been available on the test server, has it not?
I cannot sit on test serwer all the time - and why they just can't leave something that was working perfectly for everyone.
I still ask for help please tell me how to scan now :< ! |
Sacu Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:11:51 -
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Harumi Akiga wrote:Sacu Shi wrote:er...its been available on the test server, has it not? I cannot sit on test serwer all the time - and why they just can't leave something that was working perfectly for everyone. I still ask for help please tell me how to scan now :< !
Well, if you can't be bothered to go to the test server when a new feature is announced and actually learn how to do it, I'm afraid I don't have time to 'tell' you how to do it. Stop whining and go learn... |
Harumi Akiga
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:13:23 -
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Sacu Shi wrote:Harumi Akiga wrote:Sacu Shi wrote:er...its been available on the test server, has it not? I cannot sit on test serwer all the time - and why they just can't leave something that was working perfectly for everyone. I still ask for help please tell me how to scan now :< ! Well, if you can't be bothered to go to the test server when a new feature is announced and actually learn how to do it, I'm afraid I don't have time to 'tell' you how to do it. Stop whining and go learn...
I'm afraid i'm not best tester but someone who plex this game to play it. If they don't bother to leave working features alone and replace it with total bullshit then ... i have no words.
Maybe i should stop plexing and everyone else who doesn't have time to sit in TEST servers and wants to play game instead ? ! Yeah -90% subs. |
Sacu Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:15:30 -
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Harumi Akiga wrote:Sacu Shi wrote:Harumi Akiga wrote:Sacu Shi wrote:er...its been available on the test server, has it not? I cannot sit on test serwer all the time - and why they just can't leave something that was working perfectly for everyone. I still ask for help please tell me how to scan now :< ! Well, if you can't be bothered to go to the test server when a new feature is announced and actually learn how to do it, I'm afraid I don't have time to 'tell' you how to do it. Stop whining and go learn... I'm afraid i'm not best tester but someone who plex this game to play it. If they don't bother to leave working features alone and replace it with total bullshit then ... i have no words. Maybe i should stop plexing and everyone else who doesn't have time to sit in TEST servers and wants to play game instead ? ! Yeah -90% subs.
Can I haz your stuffs? |
Harumi Akiga
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:18:58 -
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Sacu Shi wrote:Harumi Akiga wrote:Sacu Shi wrote:Harumi Akiga wrote:Sacu Shi wrote:er...its been available on the test server, has it not? I cannot sit on test serwer all the time - and why they just can't leave something that was working perfectly for everyone. I still ask for help please tell me how to scan now :< ! Well, if you can't be bothered to go to the test server when a new feature is announced and actually learn how to do it, I'm afraid I don't have time to 'tell' you how to do it. Stop whining and go learn... I'm afraid i'm not best tester but someone who plex this game to play it. If they don't bother to leave working features alone and replace it with total bullshit then ... i have no words. Maybe i should stop plexing and everyone else who doesn't have time to sit in TEST servers and wants to play game instead ? ! Yeah -90% subs. Can I haz your stuffs?
Yes come to my home system i'm too slow on brain to do things like contracting ... so we have to trade in open space. I can jettison all my stuff for you.
Tzvi 0.3 system in Devoid Low sec. Please come i will even give you free hug. |
Harumi Akiga
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:27:31 -
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Ok i found out what they did ... you can't use BEST OLD MAP anymore ... well GF bois enjoy your drop from wreck :D.
What sane person would want to use this **** beta map is beyond my imagination. Welcome cruel world.
Scanning speed -90%. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
1110
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:33:53 -
[9] - Quote
Sacu Shi wrote:Can I haz your stuffs?
You'd have to scan it down, I'd wager.
Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.
I invented Tiericide
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
12866
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:37:39 -
[10] - Quote
Reminds me of this |
May Arethusa
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
100
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:38:51 -
[11] - Quote
Val'Dore wrote:Sacu Shi wrote:Can I haz your stuffs? You'd have to scan it down, I'd wager.
I'm told by whiny, self-entitled scrubs that scanning is now impossible. I guess nobody will have his stuff. |
Sacu Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:41:50 -
[12] - Quote
Harumi Akiga wrote:Ok i found out what they did ... you can't use BEST OLD MAP anymore ... well GF bois enjoy your drop from wreck :D.
What sane person would want to use this **** beta map is beyond my imagination. Welcome cruel world.
Scanning speed -90%.
Actually, there is a check box in the 'general' settings that allows you to use the old scanning method and the old map.
Perhaps if you took your sunglasses off you would see it...
Perhaps you should look around at the new features in future to reduce the opportunities we have for demonstrating your sense of entitlement. |
Faenir Antollare
The Idiot Kings
Get Off My Lawn
461
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:43:50 -
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I near birthed Kittens when I logged in after the patch and had a look at the scanning.
Rather than come running to the forums bleating and whining about it, I merely checked the options and then just disabled the new features.
As good as new :)
RiP BooBoo
26/7/1971 - 23/7/2014
My Lady My Love My Life My Wife
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Harumi Akiga
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:55:49 -
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Sacu Shi wrote:Harumi Akiga wrote:Ok i found out what they did ... you can't use BEST OLD MAP anymore ... well GF bois enjoy your drop from wreck :D.
What sane person would want to use this **** beta map is beyond my imagination. Welcome cruel world.
Scanning speed -90%. Actually, there is a check box in the 'general' settings that allows you to use the old scanning method and the old map. Perhaps if you took your sunglasses off you would see it... You should look around at the new features in future to reduce the opportunities we have for demonstrating your sense of entitlement and resistance to change. Darwinism is truly proved wrong by posts like yours...
WOW so you can make valuable post that help someone. I'm deeply shocked. You could said this when i asked. Instead you took path of being self entitled prick and ****.
But i guess i could say thank you, after bloating this topic with bullshit you did provide me answer to my problem.
close topic ... and in future CCP do not enable such feature . Let us decide ... this option should be disabled and i should choose if i want to take part in this new ****** map experience. |
Ismael Caleb Echart
Renyn Roughnecks
0
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Posted - 2015.11.03 16:00:18 -
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I have to say that the new scanning window and map are ..... er, crap. Sorry but no other word for it. I hate the new style star map as well (that was introduced some time ago), so I was glad to see I could still revert to the old scanner window and the solar system map I am used to. I wont use the new style star map either.
Sorry devs but this time the upgrades are a step backwards. |
Divine Entervention
Rational Chaos Inc.
Phoebe Freeport Republic
759
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Posted - 2015.11.03 16:08:45 -
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Was faced with a new system I was unfamiliar with. . . . The prospect of expending effort to relearn something I had already known, didn't need to have changed was momentarily paralyzing.
Then I took about 4 seconds and took a second to think about what I was looking at, EXPLORED the menus a bit, and found everything I needed to know.
Great change, feels alot smoother. |
Daemun Khanid
Sanctus Imperialis
168
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Posted - 2015.11.03 16:13:32 -
[17] - Quote
Haven't even looked at the new version yet myself, just wanted to point out that just because the option is still there now to use the old version, it doesn't mean it will stay there forever.
There should be an official feedback thread somewhere around here. If you have issue with the new system or if you like it, I'd recommend you head over to the appropriate thread and let your opinion be known there.
Daemun of Khanid
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Sacu Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2015.11.03 16:33:57 -
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Harumi Akiga wrote:Sacu Shi wrote:Harumi Akiga wrote:Ok i found out what they did ... you can't use BEST OLD MAP anymore ... well GF bois enjoy your drop from wreck :D.
What sane person would want to use this **** beta map is beyond my imagination. Welcome cruel world.
Scanning speed -90%. Actually, there is a check box in the 'general' settings that allows you to use the old scanning method and the old map. Perhaps if you took your sunglasses off you would see it... You should look around at the new features in future to reduce the opportunities we have for demonstrating your sense of entitlement and resistance to change. Darwinism is truly proved wrong by posts like yours... WOW so you can make valuable post that help someone. I'm deeply shocked. You could said this when i asked. Instead you took path of being self entitled prick and ****. But i guess i could say thank you, after bloating this topic with bullshit you did provide me answer to my problem. close topic ... and in future CCP do not enable such feature . Let us decide ... this option should be disabled and i should choose if i want to take part in this new ****** map experience.
Before you start swearing and acting like a 5 year old, read your original post again and tell me who is the self-entitled prick?
And tewll me WHY others should play your game for you? Search! Learn! Explore!, Read! Why should we do that for you when you come here crying about a small change that has been p[published in dev-blogs and available on the test server for ages. And then you threaten to quit because of this change?
Perhaps your parents didn't teach you any manners, so here goes. Repeat after me.
'Thanks Sacu for encouraging me to be independent in my search for answers regarding this awesome game, EVE. Im sorry I came here expressing my frustrations inappropriately. I realise I should take the time to read about changes to a game-style that I partake in in order to maximise my opportunities to adapt and survive in this often unforgiving universe....'
Your'e welcome. |
Harm Grievous
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.11.03 16:36:58 -
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yep using the old settings, I've tried the new and don't feel it is an improvement . |
Koboldetta Kaisera
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.11.03 17:00:17 -
[20] - Quote
I checked use the old settings.....and it didn't.
I got a new WH in the home system and can't scan it because it defaults to multiple items in the sky when I specifically said only this one. There are at least three, maybe more, sigs showing,OMG how about releasing when tested instead of when scheduled.
Nothing should ever be released until the easily found (hint hint) "HOW TO..." file is completed that says in simple language how to perform the new magic trick. Something us knuckle draggers can understand., "Do this, then do this, then do this...."
The fact one person can intuitively understand how to do **** does not mean 100,000 other people can pick it up. |
Zosius
Two Factory Vultures
65
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Posted - 2015.11.03 17:36:28 -
[21] - Quote
Ummm. Turn it off?
http://cloakybastard.blogspot.com
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Vol Arm'OOO
Bagel and Lox
757
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Posted - 2015.11.03 17:41:40 -
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Koboldetta Kaisera wrote:I checked use the old settings.....and it didn't.
I got a new WH in the home system and can't scan it because it defaults to multiple items in the sky when I specifically said only this one. There are at least three, maybe more, sigs showing,OMG how about releasing when tested instead of when scheduled.
Nothing should ever be released until the easily found (hint hint) "HOW TO..." file is completed that says in simple language how to perform the new magic trick. Something us knuckle draggers can understand., "Do this, then do this, then do this...."
The fact one person can intuitively understand how to do **** does not mean 100,000 other people can pick it up.
You have to forgive the eve idiot savants and autistic types - they feel because they "live eve" and have nothing better to do then beta test CCP's pointless changes on the test server that everybody should do the same.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
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Eternity Mistseeker
Renegades of Eve
Aureus Alae
17
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Posted - 2015.11.03 17:49:34 -
[23] - Quote
What was the purpose of this change?
Is it too much to expect the focus to be on areas that actually need some time spent on them? This system worked fine before.
If you are reading this and want to know how to revert, toggle off the two "Experimental Features" checkboxes in the "General Settings" tab and restart your client. That worked for me. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
9026
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Posted - 2015.11.03 18:01:18 -
[24] - Quote
Czech yourself before you Rick yourself.
Kindly disembark from this game, and meet me in Lisbetaenne to jettison your stuff, my child.
[b]----
CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.[/b]
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Sacu Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2015.11.03 18:21:59 -
[25] - Quote
Koboldetta Kaisera wrote:I checked use the old settings.....and it didn't.
I got a new WH in the home system and can't scan it because it defaults to multiple items in the sky when I specifically said only this one. There are at least three, maybe more, sigs showing,OMG how about releasing when tested instead of when scheduled.
Nothing should ever be released until the easily found (hint hint) "HOW TO..." file is completed that says in simple language how to perform the new magic trick. Something us knuckle draggers can understand., "Do this, then do this, then do this...."
The fact one person can intuitively understand how to do **** does not mean 100,000 other people can pick it up.
Did you change session? ( use gate, dock etc?) after unticking the 'use old map / scan' settings?
You need to do this for the old stuff to be used afaik. I unchecked the changes, then docked and undocked and old map and scanner are back...
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Sacu Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2015.11.03 18:25:35 -
[26] - Quote
Vol Arm'OOO wrote:Koboldetta Kaisera wrote:I checked use the old settings.....and it didn't.
I got a new WH in the home system and can't scan it because it defaults to multiple items in the sky when I specifically said only this one. There are at least three, maybe more, sigs showing,OMG how about releasing when tested instead of when scheduled.
Nothing should ever be released until the easily found (hint hint) "HOW TO..." file is completed that says in simple language how to perform the new magic trick. Something us knuckle draggers can understand., "Do this, then do this, then do this...."
The fact one person can intuitively understand how to do **** does not mean 100,000 other people can pick it up. You have to forgive the eve idiot savants and autistic types - they feel because they "live eve" and have nothing better to do then beta test CCP's pointless changes on the test server that everybody should do the same.
Nope, I didn't do either. I just tried it out when I saw this forum post. Figured it out all by my grown-up self. No whining, no raging, no scweaming and scweaming till I was sick.
Quite ironic that many posts berate Eve for 'dumbing down'...and then this post (and some of the posters in it...), demonstrates just exactly WHY Eve needs to dumb down... |
Harm Grievous
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.11.03 18:33:28 -
[27] - Quote
I feel for noobs for want to do some exploration because they'll give up trying to use these features and won't know how to turn them off |
Zosius
Two Factory Vultures
66
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Posted - 2015.11.03 18:51:39 -
[28] - Quote
Eternity Mistseeker wrote:What was the purpose of this change?
Is it too much to expect the focus to be on areas that actually need some time spent on them? This system worked fine before.
If you are reading this and want to know how to revert, toggle off the two "Experimental Features" checkboxes in the "General Settings" tab and restart your client. That worked for me.
no need to restart client, just close and restart scanner box.
http://cloakybastard.blogspot.com
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Divine Entervention
Rational Chaos Inc.
Phoebe Freeport Republic
761
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Posted - 2015.11.03 18:56:18 -
[29] - Quote
chill out guys, it's not hard.
Just play around with your shift and control keys. hold one then scroll your mouse wheel in and out. Hold the other and scroll your mouse wheel in and out.
No one can see you play. It's OK to not understand something for the first 30 seconds.
Experiment. Learn.
Also, put on your big boy pants and use this opportunity to transition to the "beta" map. It's far superior in EVERY way. Not adjusting is only a testament to your personal stupidity.
#getgood
#thebest |
Brago Hott
Brago Hott Space Solutions
4
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Posted - 2015.11.03 19:03:59 -
[30] - Quote
thanks :) and thanks CCP for the possibility to not use the new stuff |
Moon Moon Burdy
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
123
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Posted - 2015.11.03 19:09:12 -
[31] - Quote
Wow, really folks?
After reading this thread I logged in to see what cataclysmic changes had rendered scanning so difficult for veterans and newbros to come. I undocked a buzzard, warped to some celestial and set my probes a-scanning. I located a wormhole in three scans, checked some filters and noticed I had also gotten a warpable location for several ships. Was it faster than before the changes? I don't know, but it sure wasn't slower or more difficult in any way for me.
Am I some magical scanning savant with locational talents far beyond the typical? I seriously doubt it.
How are people having such difficulty with this?
I feel for those who have lost the ability to adapt to new situations and changes to familiar tools.
Things that went boom
Storytime with Moon Moon New stories (almost) daily!
Promising Young Murderer, Education Appreciated.
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Divine Entervention
Rational Chaos Inc.
Phoebe Freeport Republic
763
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Posted - 2015.11.03 19:12:37 -
[32] - Quote
It's gotta be a trap.
CCP developer forum alts posting 'THE SKY IS FALLING' threads to see if they can entice others who actually think that way into expressing that sentiment.
There's no way people are actually struggling with this change. |
Vol Arm'OOO
Bagel and Lox
759
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Posted - 2015.11.03 19:19:44 -
[33] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:chill out guys, it's not hard.
Also, put on your big boy pants and use this opportunity to transition to the "beta" map. It's far superior in EVERY way. Not adjusting is only a testament to your personal stupidity.
#getgood
#thebest
I bet you get real excited when you see something shiny and new. That something is all flash Gee Whiz doesnt make it good. Hopefully next time CCP tries to make a map, they will actually get somebody who knows what a map is used for, instead of relying upon useless sparkles and polish to make it look good. Finally, the best feature of the new map IMO is the check off box that allows you to turn it off.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
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Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
613
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Posted - 2015.11.03 19:25:38 -
[34] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:It's gotta be a trap.
CCP developer forum alts posting 'THE SKY IS FALLING' threads to see if they can entice others who actually think that way into expressing that sentiment.
There's no way people are actually struggling with this change. Unfortunatly I am strugling. The main reason being that when I open te new beta scan window, all I see is te celestials and nothing else. No amount of button/shortcut/mousclicking/mousescrolling changes that.
I presume it is one of the many bugs this new feature is hampered by. As such I have filed a bug report.
Besides that, although ranting like the OP is a bit over the top for my taste, I can understand some confusion with players. When CCP launches a functionality in Beta, it should be opt-in instead opt-out, as it is now.
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format.
Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Divine Entervention
Rational Chaos Inc.
Phoebe Freeport Republic
764
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Posted - 2015.11.03 19:27:03 -
[35] - Quote
at the top left are a few little icons you can click on to see a drop down menu of things you do and don't want to show up.
Then on the probe scanner window itself there's a menu to the right of Scan Results that says Filtered. You can click on that one and have the ability to select more stuff you do and don't want to show up.
It's different but it's still pretty good. |
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
613
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Posted - 2015.11.03 19:29:05 -
[36] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:at the top left are a few little icons you can click on to see a drop down menu of things you do and don't want to show up. I am aware of that :)
Selecting all/none/several doesn't change one iota. Hence the submitted bug report.
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format.
Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Divine Entervention
Rational Chaos Inc.
Phoebe Freeport Republic
764
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Posted - 2015.11.03 19:31:47 -
[37] - Quote
Yea on the probe scanner window click on the Filtered button and make sure there's an X in the boxes next to Anomalies and Cosmic Signatures. |
Jon Essler
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.11.03 19:35:52 -
[38] - Quote
Despite the predictable HTFU posts the scanning/probe UI changes are indeed a retrograde step. However your feedback will be more productive if posted in this thread instead: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=453682&find=unread |
Greylord Kane
Dredge Nation
F-I-N-K and Co.
3
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Posted - 2015.11.03 19:36:54 -
[39] - Quote
WOW This Post was like watching an episode of South Park... Thanks it was quite enjoyable.....lol I'll now have to wait after work to check out scanning :) |
sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2015.11.03 20:31:40 -
[40] - Quote
read this thread and wanted to see what the complaints are about.
I am not scanning much and not very good with learning new stuff, but took my old dusty helios out for a spin and was able to scan down a procurer in 4 scans. I am really not being condenscending now, but tbh. I don't see how it is a lot different from before... pull out probes, move the probes with the arrows, scan, move probes decrease radius.. repeat, untill ship scanned down. recall probes, warp. Sure the buttons are placed differently, but after having pushed everything(including filters etc.) you kinda know what is what.
I also like the D-scan option. It gives me a much better better spacial feeling of the system I am in. I was always bad with using D scan for anything else as seing when someone landed on the gate to the plex I am in, and I really think this will help me scan down the celestial people are at faster.
I think it works better and less clunky than scanning with the old beta map, which i disliked so generally I am happy about the changes |
Craticus Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2015.11.03 20:35:44 -
[41] - Quote
With just over 2 weeks in game and predominantly into scanning and exploration im not to hot on this new change... ok it didn't take long to work out at all but I think its defo a step back..... Im just thinking "WHY" TBH... it gives no real benefits over the old system from what I can see and just more bland and cumbersome....
the only thing I do like is they moved a few buttons that were stupidly placed (destroy probes/recover probes) and a few plane location bugs/issues but I just don't see the thinking behind this to be perfectly honest and I think its going to be more of an issue with new players in the long run....
my biggest gripe is that it just doesn't feel fun anymore  ..... I dunno... just feels boring.. and for someone who spends most game time scanning that's a biggie!.... I admit ive only spent 30 mins with the new system so I will keep a open mind... but right now im not very hot on it.....
yes we can disable the new system but I agree with Esrevid Nekkeg, this should be opt-in not opt-out....
I understand I was not around when the new map went live but its not hard to see the huge benefits of the new map over the old one, but this just seems silly and a step backwards....
my thoughts probably mean zip to you pros but hey I like to share  ...... except ISK  |
Zosius
Two Factory Vultures
67
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Posted - 2015.11.03 20:49:26 -
[42] - Quote
Has anybody noticed that d-scan is now shown in probe map? Direction and distance is visible. In other words, ccp just removed the need to have any skill pinpointing ship location with d-scan to get a hit with combats on first try.
One thing I would like to have though, is to have my ship modules visible when map is in full screen.
http://cloakybastard.blogspot.com
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Arla Sarain
696
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Posted - 2015.11.03 20:57:14 -
[43] - Quote
Zosius wrote:Has anybody noticed that d-scan is now shown in probe map? Direction and distance is visible. In other words, ccp just removed the need to have any skill pinpointing ship location with d-scan to get a hit with combats on first try.
The skill to avoid combat probes was never existent in the first place.
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Craticus Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2015.11.03 20:58:26 -
[44] - Quote
Zosius wrote:One thing I would like to have though, is to have my ship modules visible when map is in full screen.
this has been requested in the feedback thread, CCP are looking to add this by the looks of it, hopefully on a toggle... |
Zosius
Two Factory Vultures
67
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Posted - 2015.11.03 21:08:01 -
[45] - Quote
Arla Sarain wrote:Zosius wrote:Has anybody noticed that d-scan is now shown in probe map? Direction and distance is visible. In other words, ccp just removed the need to have any skill pinpointing ship location with d-scan to get a hit with combats on first try.
The skill to avoid combat probes was never existent in the first place.
I mean a skill to get accurate position of ship via d-scan and get 100% hit with combats on first try. Now you can see d-scan in the map, so it will be easy peasy to even set 0.5-1 AU.
Probably will work to advantage in terms of content, but still sucks to see tough to acquire skill to become useless.
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Mysa
Alekhine's Gun
Decayed Orbit
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Posted - 2015.11.03 21:36:48 -
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Alt-mouse wheel up/down to change distance? Been waiting!!!!!!!
Assign enter key to analyse? BEEN WAITING!!!!!!!!
Assing -º key for directional scan analyse, NO MORE WAITING!!!!!!!!!
New 3d-map beta or not, GAWD YES!!!!!!!
SoloFoLife!
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PhantomMajor
High Flyers
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2015.11.03 21:38:49 -
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Faenir Antollare wrote:I near birthed Kittens when I logged in after the patch and had a look at the scanning.
Rather than come running to the forums bleating and whining about it, I merely checked the options and then just disabled the new features.
As good as new :)
that says it all about the new features if everyone is disabling them.
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Arla Sarain
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Posted - 2015.11.03 21:47:15 -
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Zosius wrote:Arla Sarain wrote:Zosius wrote:Has anybody noticed that d-scan is now shown in probe map? Direction and distance is visible. In other words, ccp just removed the need to have any skill pinpointing ship location with d-scan to get a hit with combats on first try.
The skill to avoid combat probes was never existent in the first place. I mean a skill to get accurate position of ship via d-scan and get 100% hit with combats on first try. Now you can see d-scan in the map, so it will be easy peasy to even set 0.5-1 AU. Probably will work to advantage in terms of content, but still sucks to see tough to acquire skill to become useless.
I understood you the first time.
My point being is that any skill involved with combat scanning wasn't really balanced with how easy it is to avoid being probed down. Shortest scan time is 4s and D-scans have a 2s reuse. Anyone who isn't AFK can easily avoid probes.
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:58:33 -
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This thread has one more life before I close it. It started as a rant but the discussion has been relatively useful since.
I have also removed two off-topic/disrespectful posts. Our rules don't become optional because of your displeasure to a feature in the game. Construct coherent sentences, make your points, and please try to keep your maturity level up there.
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Deridium
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Phoenix Company Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.03 23:15:41 -
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ISD Decoy wrote:This thread has one more life before I close it. It started as a rant but the discussion has been relatively useful since.
I have also removed two off-topic/disrespectful posts. Our rules don't become optional because of your displeasure to a feature in the game. Construct coherent sentences, make your points, and please try to keep your maturity level up there.
All I heard was blah blah blah blah.
Coherent enough for you |
Hal Morsh
Hmmzor.
Battlecruisin' Space Goats
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Posted - 2015.11.03 23:23:19 -
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Stop whining and learn to use it again.
The beta map seemed wonky to me when it first came out, and now it's my preferred map.
Dun'Gal > Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity.
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Chuffer
Testicle of Doom
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Posted - 2015.11.03 23:24:04 -
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I'm not sure what the drama is about, I think that the scanner changes are an improvement. And even if you don't like them you're still able to use the previous version. |
Evan Roc
Awakened Ones
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Posted - 2015.11.03 23:24:42 -
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I guess I will use this as a feedback thread.
New scanner is bad, I live in WH space and scan to much as it is but it is quick most days. I gave this new system a shot but I can only guess the CCP Devs either don't play EVE or if they do they don't scan.
I have turned it off, and thank god they gave us that option.
Issues as I see them.
1. Much slower than the old process, not sure why other than it is harder to center the probes.
2. The Dscan range grid? that surrounds your ship should not be red, the sigs are red and it is confusing.
3. I don't like the pop up map, it is to small unless you re-size it and then it covers everything (I run 2 x 27in screens)
4. I like the move of the recover probes but that is it.
I will wait for an update to use the new system. |
Terminal Insanity
Pwn 'N Play
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.03 23:32:02 -
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so ccp saw the scanning system, and noticed it needed some tweaks
so ccp added massive lag and removed the probe indicators from it.
awesome. Did they even ******* test this for 5 minutes? i mean, you just had to load the game up, and open the scan window for like 10 seconds to see the problem. Nobody?
I guess i can remove lvl5 scan skills from my training queue now.
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
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Leeluvv
Polarized
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Posted - 2015.11.03 23:40:45 -
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Evan Roc wrote:I guess I will use this as a feedback thread.
New scanner is bad, I live in WH space and scan to much as it is but it is quick most days. I gave this new system a shot but I can only guess the CCP Devs either don't play EVE or if they do they don't scan.
I have turned it off, and thank god they gave us that option.
Issues as I see them.
1. Much slower than the old process, not sure why other than it is harder to center the probes.
2. The Dscan range grid? that surrounds your ship should not be red, the sigs are red and it is confusing.
3. I don't like the pop up map, it is to small unless you re-size it and then it covers everything (I run 2 x 27in screens)
4. I like the move of the recover probes but that is it.
I will wait for an update to use the new system.
1. Did you use pre-set probe settings before? The new one is a lot faster, as it is a single click to go from one config to another instead of 3 clicks. If anyone is manually moving individual probes, then you have been doing it wrong. That's why CCP gave you the option to save probe configurations.
2. Agreed. Different colour or be able to toggle DScan range on Probe map
3. How is an adjustable map worse? I have a one 27" screen and it covers 2/3, leaving me enough space to see the important bits of the rest of the screen |
Darian en Chasteaux
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
91
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Posted - 2015.11.03 23:54:07 -
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Hi,
Use the old 2d map; :(
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Ursula Thrace
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
359
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Posted - 2015.11.04 01:10:26 -
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Sacu Shi wrote:Actually, there is a check box in the 'general' settings that allows you to use the old scanning method and the old map.
Perhaps if you took your sunglasses off you would see it...
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.11.04 01:16:54 -
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Clearly this thread has run its course. Please continue discussions in this thread.
ISD Decoy
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Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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