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Laserotaku
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Posted - 2007.01.02 14:59:00 -
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I wonder is there done anything or will be done anything to Raven's model in near future. The ship is so ugly and also so common that i would like to know if something could be possibly done to make it look better. I also have feeling that im not the only one who thinks this way. 
Has CCP ever before revised old ship models?
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2007.01.02 15:02:00 -
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It's punishment to caldari players for having the easy mode race. Be thankfull your not a minnie CCP must REALLY hate them 
Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Trracer
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.02 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii It's punishment to caldari players for having the easy mode race. Be thankfull your not a minnie CCP must REALLY hate them 
Alliaanna
Hey, there's nothing wrong with Rifter, Thrasher, Stabber and Cyclone... (disregard almost all the rest okthx, heh).
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Ari'Tichook
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Posted - 2007.01.02 15:26:00 -
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You say that but the stabber has the worst rear-end I could've thought up. Starts off nice, then cuts off bluntly, aside from that underslung rocket motor sticking out the back, why?! |

Jin Freaks
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Posted - 2007.01.02 15:30:00 -
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EVE is still a great game but CCP should kick some graphicdesigners buttox. There are hardly any good looking ships out there (cept for the rax/deimos ofcourse).
Thanks in advance for the flaming :P
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Von Schnopp
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.01.02 15:37:00 -
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Seriously, compare some of the original models and skins, detail level etc of Raven and Scorpion with the newer battlecruisers and battleships and capitals. Almost like mixing the models from Pacific Fighters (Maddox Games) with those of WW2 battleground europe. 
Perhaps a slight revision of 3D models and skins are in order? 
"Dying for your corp is just stupid, make those other bastards die for theirs instead" |

Pam Shaker
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Posted - 2007.01.02 15:46:00 -
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I agree...the ships are fugly. My retarted cousin could have done better.
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Alowishus
Shadow Company Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.02 15:59:00 -
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Hi. Who cares?
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War Bear
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.02 16:19:00 -
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I find the Scorp an interesting ship but ffs the Raven looks like crap and this is coming from a Typhoon pilot.
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Jarjar
exscape corporation
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Posted - 2007.01.02 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Von Schnopp Seriously, compare some of the original models and skins, detail level etc of Raven and Scorpion with the newer battlecruisers and battleships and capitals. Almost like mixing the models from Pacific Fighters (Maddox Games) with those of WW2 battleground europe. 
Perhaps a slight revision of 3D models and skins are in order? 
They're already remodelling all the ships.
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Angelis666
Amarr The Knights Of Camelot FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.01.02 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii It's punishment to caldari players for having the easy mode race. Be thankfull your not a minnie CCP must REALLY hate them 
Alliaanna
This man speaks the trueth!
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Laserotaku
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Posted - 2007.01.02 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jarjar
Originally by: Von Schnopp Seriously, compare some of the original models and skins, detail level etc of Raven and Scorpion with the newer battlecruisers and battleships and capitals. Almost like mixing the models from Pacific Fighters (Maddox Games) with those of WW2 battleground europe. 
Perhaps a slight revision of 3D models and skins are in order? 
They're already remodelling all the ships.
how do you know this and do you have any knowledge when we will see new raven 
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DarkTeror
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.02 16:55:00 -
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What are you talking about? The raven looks great. The moa on the other hand should be shot and buried.
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VJ Maverick
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Posted - 2007.01.02 16:58:00 -
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The problem with MOST ships is their lack of symmetry. The human eye naturally leans to and appreciates symmetry. That's why so many ships in Eve are perceived as ugly. Lets take the frigates for example. The Rifter, the Merlin, and the Retribution are some of best looking ships in the game not because they are particularly attractive designs but because they are simply LESS ugly than most of the other ships out there by the virtue of their symmetry. Think how awesome a Kestrel would look if it was symmetrical - the monoplane wing, the three large enignes and two symmetrical booms - badass! And I bet the OP would like the Raven a lot more as well if it was symmetrical. Get a clue, CCP. Asymmetrical designs are great if you want to be an avant-garde artist whom nobody understands. But they suck for ship designs.
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Laserotaku
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Posted - 2007.01.02 17:13:00 -
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wel im flying rokh at the moment but i also have raven, i dont wanna use it though since it looks like t-1000 in the end of terminator 2
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.02 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 02/01/2007 17:26:29 All ships are being remodeled.
This means that their uglyness will be more apparent are they will still have the same look as current :) --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |

Majin82
Caldari g guild
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Posted - 2007.01.02 23:25:00 -
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With the release of Direct-X 10 and Windows Vista, Eve is getting a GFX overhaul soon there after! This will inculde ships, stations and planets. Fanfest info FTW.
This will most likely not fix the wacky looking Caldari sapce stations, or Raven. ------------------------------------- Proud member of G Guild! |

Jintoi
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Posted - 2007.01.03 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Pam Shaker I agree...the ships are fugly. My retarted cousin could have done better.
Let's see your max or maya files with better looking lowpoly ships including the uvw unwrap then.
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Khorian
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.01.03 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Khorian on 03/01/2007 00:37:44
Originally by: VJ Maverick The problem with MOST ships is their lack of symmetry. The human eye naturally leans to and appreciates symmetry. That's why so many ships in Eve are perceived as ugly.
Actually, there is something called the golden ratio (sectio aurea) wich is roughly a proportion of 2/3rd, that is regarded as the perfect proportion. It can be found almost anywhere in nature and also human arts. Take a picture of your face, cut it in half and copy one half, then mirror it and put it together with the other half. It will look... not good, because its symetric.
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Lady Loom
Red Mercury Industries Legiones Astartes
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Posted - 2007.01.03 01:33:00 -
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for me symmetry (or the lack of it) isn't the issue, personally I think slightly assymetrical ships like the Kestrel, Cormorant or Ferox still look great. What kills me is how impractical some of the designs look - if my super tough space ship looks like the slightest bump will break it apart because large parts of the ships are being held together with tiny beams and stupid shapes (like the Blackbird or Scorpion), that's not "cool assymmetry" anymore, that's just crap. Assymmetry becomes bad when ships with more or less symmetric shapes suddenly get a stupid engine nacelle or wing stuck somewhere just to look special...
They are about to revise some ships with the graphical upgrade, but I don't think they'll radically change how ships will look. Sadly.
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Chronus26
Gallente Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2007.01.03 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Laserotaku I wonder is there done anything or will be done anything to Raven's model in near future. The ship is so ugly and also so common that i would like to know if something could be possibly done to make it look better. I also have feeling that im not the only one who thinks this way. 
Has CCP ever before revised old ship models?
Err I and many others actually like the raven model. Just because you dont like it doesn't mean it needs to be changed. -----
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.01.03 02:43:00 -
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And just cause you like it doesn't mean it shouldn't be. Plus, all of the ships are being retextured, not remodeled. Please stop passing this idea around.
A few ships however have new concepts on that website. --
Originally by: Ghosthowl At what level can i PVP?
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Litus Arowar
Amarr Obsidian Asylum Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.03 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Khorian Edited by: Khorian on 03/01/2007 00:37:44
Originally by: VJ Maverick The problem with MOST ships is their lack of symmetry. The human eye naturally leans to and appreciates symmetry. That's why so many ships in Eve are perceived as ugly.
Actually, there is something called the golden ratio (sectio aurea) wich is roughly a proportion of 2/3rd, that is regarded as the perfect proportion. It can be found almost anywhere in nature and also human arts. Take a picture of your face, cut it in half and copy one half, then mirror it and put it together with the other half. It will look... not good, because its symetric.
that's simply not true... yes, the golden ratio applies to beauty in nature, and in humans, but the fact that your face looks weird if made symmetrical has nothing to do with this... do the same with a supermodel's face and be prepared to be amazed (most are perfectly symmetrical)
Albert Anastacia> Like they say, adapt or die. I adapted and now I get to Iwinbutton all over everyones face. |

Jintoi
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Posted - 2007.01.03 03:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Loom What kills me is how impractical some of the designs look - if my super tough space ship looks like the slightest bump will break it apart because large parts of the ships are being held together with tiny beams and stupid shapes (like the Blackbird or Scorpion), that's not "cool assymmetry" anymore, that's just crap.
Well remember Caldari ships rely on Shields and their armour is known to be weak so it makes sense that they are more Electronic based and in looks as their tank is in a forcefield away from the ship itself, in comparisson Gallente ships look like they have thick hulls.
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Typhis Deterious
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Posted - 2007.01.03 03:44:00 -
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I always found that an uglier ship strikes fear into the hearts of the enemy. Either that or they rofl till you blow them out of the sky ;)
BTW what does it matter if they look good or not, as long as they can make stuff go boom it's all gravy.
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Lenoor
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.01.03 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: Typhis Deterious I always found that an uglier ship strikes fear into the hearts of the enemy. Either that or they rofl till you blow them out of the sky ;)
BTW what does it matter if they look good or not, as long as they can make stuff go boom it's all gravy.
I agree, until I can build my own, completely unique ship with its own design, the fact of the matter is more what the ship can do, not how it looks doing it. Because chances are, you'll run across 5, 6+ ravens in a single day... This (along with the uber fittings and stats) is why I think faction ships are so pricey: near-individuality.  ______________________/|\_______________________
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Seriya
Caldari Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2007.01.03 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Khorian Edited by: Khorian on 03/01/2007 00:37:44
Originally by: VJ Maverick The problem with MOST ships is their lack of symmetry.
Actually, there is something called the golden ratio (sectio aurea) wich is roughly a proportion of 2/3rd, that is regarded as the perfect proportion.
This ratio exists and is found all over nature, but symmetry is basicly attractive and asymmetry not. Most of the 'ugly' asymmetrical ships on EVE would look a lot more pleasing if they were made symmetrical.
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lllllllllllopo
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Posted - 2007.01.03 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: War Bear I find the Scorp an interesting ship but ffs the Raven looks like crap and this is coming from a Typhoon pilot.

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Madorthene
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 07:29:00 -
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Edited by: Madorthene on 03/01/2007 07:29:22 Moa looks like somebody broke a swan's back and shoved a brick down it's throat. ._.
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Orph
Caldari Independent Fleet O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.01.03 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Druallis And just cause you like it doesn't mean it shouldn't be. Plus, all of the ships are being retextured, not remodeled. Please stop passing this idea around.
A few ships however have new concepts on that website.
A couple are being reskinned, yes. But take a look at the Celetis remodel(slightly different), and the latest Scythe remodel(completely different). Also, if you haven't, take a look at the CCP video from that Nvidia event from a whiles back, they go through a pretty decent segment about the efficient poly counts of thier -new- models.
CCP is not only retexturing the game's resources with pretty new high res textures with speculars and normals, but they seem to be taking a new art direction AND overhauling the dated ship models as well. The only thing I assume is that looking at the new batch of BC's and BS's, the revised ships will follow that "look" as well. So back to the topic of Ravens, I wholeheartidly hope and am betting that these missile boats will definately get a MUCH MUCH needed touch-up. (Even though I'm a Rokh/Crusader/Geddon pilot. It'd be good to see the ugly Caldari boats get a facelift, heck I might fly one if they do.) _____________ "My resolve is the mountain from which the wicked shall be smitten" |

Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2007.01.03 08:01:00 -
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Edited by: Goumindong on 03/01/2007 08:02:16 So long as most of the ships still look like phalluses im all for it. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew" |

XenoPagan
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Posted - 2007.01.03 10:36:00 -
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I love the overall look of EvE ships. They are all very distinctive looking, youll spot one in space and say "this one HAS to be *insert specific race here*". In all movies and games ships are symmetrical, so EvE took a different step and I'm glad for it (who needs symmetry in space anyway).
That aside, I play amarr partly because I liked how their ships look and Harbinger is most beautiful ship in the game (imho of course). Amarr designs just reflect their race tradicionalism (symmetry and everything).
I've seen only few ships that I think of "whoa, I don't want to be in THAT thing". Probably Moa being one of them :D
Bottom line is- EvE ship designs are very distinct and unique, let them stay that way. Lots of designwork has went into them, so they could reflect their race's mentality.
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Lady Loom
Red Mercury Industries Legiones Astartes
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Posted - 2007.01.03 23:44:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Loom on 03/01/2007 23:45:09 distinct and unique doesn't have to be ugly, IMO
and despite of caldari vessels shield tanking, they still have to have some sort of structural integrity. Maybe it's me as a civil engineer but not even a powerful shield system can save a ship that (at least looks like it) breaks apart if you sneeze at it, and thrusters located at the oddest places just to add a "distinct" assymetrical look for the heck of it is stupid. All IMO
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Ra'ita
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Posted - 2007.01.04 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Khorian Actually, there is something called the golden ratio (sectio aurea) wich is roughly a proportion of 2/3rd, that is regarded as the perfect proportion.
Or to be precise, the square root of five divided by two. Or the inverse. Not hard to work out if you take the limits of a Fibonacci set.
And yes, very few ships seem to follow it.
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j0sephine
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.04 05:18:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 04/01/2007 05:19:26
"I wonder is there done anything or will be done anything to Raven's model in near future. The ship is so ugly and also so common that i would like to know if something could be possibly done to make it look better. I also have feeling that im not the only one who thinks this way. "
It's hourses for courses, to be honest. "Ugly" and "nice" and "cool" is very relative and you'll often get three different opinions out of two people asked. Personally i don't see anything "ugly" about the Raven, and since so far no one complaining about her ugliness actually bothered to clarify what aspects of the looks they find so terrible, i really cannot tell what these opinions are coming from. This is to say am not saying people with that point of view "are wrong" or anything, i just really cannot tell what they're thinking when they say so... and since the complaint is extremely generic, it's not helpful.
I suspect it may be similar problem for the designer as well -- telling them "it's ugly, fix it" doesn't help at all because it has zero constructive value... as in no way it hints to determine what's in this case considered "not ugly" by person in question, and what kind of "new Raven" would be found worthy the praise.
That, and since it's quite obviously not possible to please everyone, i don't know if there's any incentive to put extra work into changing shape that's now liked by some and disliked by others... into a shape that will be liked by some and disliked by others. As at the end of day it means the work was pretty much for naught and the effort/time could be spent on something more practical instead o.O;
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.01.04 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine Edited by: j0sephine on 04/01/2007 05:19:26
"I wonder is there done anything or will be done anything to Raven's model in near future. The ship is so ugly and also so common that i would like to know if something could be possibly done to make it look better. I also have feeling that im not the only one who thinks this way. "
It's hourses for courses, to be honest. "Ugly" and "nice" and "cool" is very relative and you'll often get three different opinions out of two people asked. Personally i don't see anything "ugly" about the Raven, and since so far no one complaining about her ugliness actually bothered to clarify what aspects of the looks they find so terrible, i really cannot tell what these opinions are coming from. This is to say am not saying people with that point of view "are wrong" or anything, i just really cannot tell what they're thinking when they say so... and since the complaint is extremely generic, it's not helpful.
I suspect it may be similar problem for the designer as well -- telling them "it's ugly, fix it" doesn't help at all because it has zero constructive value... as in no way it hints to determine what's in this case considered "not ugly" by person in question, and what kind of "new Raven" would be found worthy the praise.
That, and since it's quite obviously not possible to please everyone, i don't know if there's any incentive to put extra work into changing shape that's now liked by some and disliked by others... into a shape that will be liked by some and disliked by others. As at the end of day it means the work was pretty much for naught and the effort/time could be spent on something more practical instead o.O;
You want specifics? Gte in a raven, and look at it from astern, looking towards the bow. now see that "wing" sticking out with all all those fins sticking out in between the hull and the "wing"?
It reminds me of someone sticking there arm out, who has extremly hairy armpits. 
Since ships are traditionaly female (with notable exeptions, Russian warships are masciline for example) This means I have to stare at female pit hair everytime I look at a raven. 
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j0sephine
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.04 06:24:00 -
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"Since ships are traditionaly female (with notable exeptions, Russian warships are masciline for example) This means I have to stare at female pit hair everytime I look at a raven. "
Well it's no different from staring at Gallente girls :s
* ducks
that said, it never made me think of anything like that... whenever i look at that piece it reminds me of steering wheel of the old sailing ships (or heck even modern ships for that matter)
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Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.01.04 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine It's hourses for courses, to be honest. "Ugly" and "nice" and "cool" is very relative and you'll often get three different opinions out of two people asked. ... I suspect it may be similar problem for the designer as well -- telling them "it's ugly, fix it" doesn't help at all because it has zero constructive value...
Take the Dominix for example.
I can't think of anything that I could say to a designer besides: "It's ugly! Fix it!" 
It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it?
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.01.04 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Originally by: j0sephine It's hourses for courses, to be honest. "Ugly" and "nice" and "cool" is very relative and you'll often get three different opinions out of two people asked. ... I suspect it may be similar problem for the designer as well -- telling them "it's ugly, fix it" doesn't help at all because it has zero constructive value...
Take the Dominix for example.
I can't think of anything that I could say to a designer besides: "It's ugly! Fix it!" 
I can.
IT'S FUGLY! there is ugly, there is f****** ugly, and then there is the dreaded FUGLY!
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Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.01.04 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Audri Fisher IT'S FUGLY! there is ugly, there is f****** ugly, and then there is the dreaded FUGLY!

It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it?
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Deious Troeyd
Minmatar Harin Trust Associates
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Posted - 2007.01.05 23:50:00 -
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I find many of the asymetrical designs in eve to be very appealing, especially the kestral, that has been one of my favorite ships since beta :D
I think the main reason why many of the ships look strange is because they put thrusters all over the place for no apparent reason.
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subvert
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Posted - 2007.01.06 00:15:00 -
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the scorp looks cool but since the EW nerf nobody uses it anymore
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Von Schnopp
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.01.06 00:51:00 -
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Let's face it, ships in EVE are designed to look cool, not to prove as practical space vessels in the real universe. Somebody said symmetry wasn't important. Well, ask a NASA engineer about that. Ships in EVE behave pretty much like their counterparts in any low budget science fiction game when it comes to physics. Do you have retro thrusters or rotational thrusters on your ship? Neither do I.
That's not important and I for one prefer the current "star wars" concept above fuel tanks with a*****pit and number of thrusters distributed around the ship making it look like those space ships in X-plane for instance. 
Raven looks a bit odd but it's brute! Give it a facelift in the form of a new skin, add some polygons and detail and we're there.
"Dying for your corp is just stupid, make those other bastards die for theirs instead" |

Tyranical Teabagger
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Posted - 2007.01.06 03:15:00 -
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The raven looks like the bastard offspring of an osprey that was ****** by a station.
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Tirk Umpat
Caldari Ex Coelis
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Posted - 2007.01.06 03:53:00 -
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Anyone who says that faces are not symmetrical has never taken an art class. I wish the ships in EVE were more symmetrical.. if some of these ships were made in real life there's no way that they would fly straight. I'm not saying that everyone should be flying around in round flying saucers, but I'd like to see some symmetry. I know that this is a game, and it doesn't have to reflect the real world at all really.. but what else are you going to do on a 20 jump long journey but look at the butt if your ship?
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subvert
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Posted - 2007.01.06 04:22:00 -
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i dont care if raven is symmetrical, its just that its ugly now 
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Neuromandis
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Posted - 2007.01.06 04:37:00 -
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Welll....
I have a habit of building the ships at least once before starting to buy them
When I built my first scorp, I didn;t know that "production efficiency" meant that the 1 million less trit I used would mean that it would be lacking a wing... It would be a really pretty ship if only it had its second wing... :(
As for the moa... I stopped building ships. Something was awfully bad with my production skills. I thought someone was pulling my leg giving me sh**tty blueprints for his son's toys after throwing them for a game of chicken with an 18-wheeler...
Seriously, some of these designs, including the raven, would be really *to my taste* (pretty is rather subjective i suppose), if you took half the ship and mirror-imaged it.
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Beringe
Caldari Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2007.01.06 04:40:00 -
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You people are all smoking *****.
The Raven is hawt! ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated."
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j0sephine
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.06 05:42:00 -
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"Anyone who says that faces are not symmetrical has never taken an art class."
High facial symmetry in real life is desired trait (on genetic/instinctual level) because it's rare enough to make such people stand out in the crowd. If it was something common it would be no big deal and nothing people would be getting excited about.
A good art class should cover that -- the symmetry is both an ideal and simplification taught for aesthetics' sake. But if you are trying to make something true to life, don't make it 100% symmetrical or it winds up looking like these artificial computer renders.
more details about symmetry and attractiveness of it you'd ever want to know -.o
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Wotar
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Posted - 2007.01.06 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Laserotaku I wonder is there done anything or will be done anything to Raven's model in near future. The ship is so ugly and also so common that i would like to know if something could be possibly done to make it look better. I also have feeling that im not the only one who thinks this way. 
Has CCP ever before revised old ship models?
Come on then, show us your ship designs. We're waiting...
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Laserotaku
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Posted - 2007.01.06 12:41:00 -
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just making it more symmetrical would fix it, i wouldn't mind better textures and more polygons either
this is my uber fast sketch, maybe something along these lines, it doesnt need to be 100% symmetrical, the tower adds nice twist 
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.01.06 13:50:00 -
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I'm a fanatic Raven hater, but I might actually fly that sketch, still not very fond of the tower though.
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Alpine 69
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.06 13:59:00 -
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w00t it would look wicked like that 
raven should really look like thisthough
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Neon Genesis
Gallente Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.01.06 14:05:00 -
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This is not a game where you will find many symmetrical ships.
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Chillshock
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Posted - 2007.01.06 15:16:00 -
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that sketch is a quite good start.
However I would be happy if they just ditch the tower and give the whole thing textures at a quality like the rokh's. Its still a great PvE ship and the looks are quite nice when "screenshotted" from the right angle with a lot of darkness.... *cough*
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Spoony Brook
Skill Level Six
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Posted - 2007.01.06 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Spoony Brook on 06/01/2007 15:24:37 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=82632307208996417&q=eve+online
go to 16:16
"..of investing massive amounts of time and money in rebuilding all 270 ships in eve, applying totally new visual effects to them..."
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Majin82
Caldari g guild
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Posted - 2007.01.06 15:40:00 -
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Laserotaku That is awesome. Looks far cooler then the current raven, also it's bigger, which is something that Caldari ships are lacking! ------------------------------------- Proud member of G Guild! |

j0sephine
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.06 17:32:00 -
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"just making it more symmetrical would fix it, i wouldn't mind better textures and more polygons either"
Hmm the overall shape stays the same so if that'd stop people from *****ing guess i wouldn't mind. Dunno, possibly not compulsive-obsessive enough to pay attention one wing is actually smaller than the other in the current version ^^;;
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.01.07 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine "just making it more symmetrical would fix it, i wouldn't mind better textures and more polygons either"
Hmm the overall shape stays the same so if that'd stop people from *****ing guess i wouldn't mind. Dunno, possibly not compulsive-obsessive enough to pay attention one wing is actually smaller than the other in the current version ^^;;
but the armpit hair! 
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Neuromandis
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Posted - 2007.01.07 06:34:00 -
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Repespect Laserotaku!!
I'd like that tons more, with or without the tower...
Can you please add another wing to the scorp as well???
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Max Manlove
Miner Protection Guild
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Posted - 2007.01.07 10:02:00 -
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Why is everybody dissing the moa. 
Arguably the most unique ship design in EVE.
I fly it all the time and I wouldn't change a thing. ♥♥♥ Protecting Your Right To Love Thy Neighbor ♥♥♥ |

Myth Al'kar
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Posted - 2007.01.07 11:20:00 -
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Raven is fugly, that pic with the 2 wings looks 10x better. I call my drake "The flying toenail" Ferox looked more like a warship.
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Laserotaku
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Posted - 2007.01.07 13:05:00 -
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il try to do something to scorp, i kinda like it now though so dont hold your breaths 
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.07 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Laserotaku il try to do something to scorp, i kinda like it now though so dont hold your breaths 
All the scorp needs is a different skin colour..oh wait they have that one 
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Laserotaku
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Posted - 2007.01.07 13:55:00 -
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yeah i cant come up with anything cool on this one, since its ecm ship rotating dish would be sweet in some location! wouldnt it 
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.07 14:06:00 -
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The current general model layout is fine IMo but as you said, some technical attachments here and there wouldnt hurt. How about more (rotating / lightflashing) antennas on the wing, and a more detailed skin showing loads of wires and batteries.
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Laserotaku
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Posted - 2007.01.07 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Laserotaku on 07/01/2007 16:25:45 Edited by: Laserotaku on 07/01/2007 16:25:29 does anyone know when the new textured ships and dx9 stuff is hitting us, in one video it said early 2007
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John Thalorr
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Posted - 2007.01.08 07:37:00 -
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That video just made my day. Can't wait till being smothered by all that shader sweetness - thank god it will work on good ol xp, too. :P
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LordMordred
The Short Bus Squad The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.01.08 08:43:00 -
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TO the OP:
I disagree, I believe the Raven to be one of the best looking ships in the game. I am not sure what is is about it... Perhaps it is what I like about nearly all Caldari ships; the fact they look like a spaceship. Not to mention a Raven just looks mencing. -----
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