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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.12.19 10:28:00 -
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Low/High sec border system. More stations than anyone could ever want. Big enough to be have spots that are "off-scan". In jump range of a good bit of both null and low sec space. Included in FW area.
The top one is probably what started Amak off in the beginning and the other reinforced the trend over time. |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2011.12.19 13:24:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Cearain wrote:Zondrail wrote: I just don't have the time to fly around for an hour or two just hoping to run into a good fight. .... CCP has appearantly never thought of people like us. All of low sec pvp is based on aimlessly wandering around for hours hoping to find a fight. Null sec pvp is based on waiting around for hours for a blob to form so you can hopefully gank a few things that are hopelessly outnumbered. FW plexing seems the only hope for people like us who want to sign in for a few hours and get decent number of good fights. Here is a proposal that I think would appeal to you. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815& CCP does not say what you should do in EVE, it gives only possibilities to do something.
I'm not sure what the point of your post is. I never said ccp says what we should do. (although they certainly design mechanics that award and punish certain behaviour)
But what I am saying is CCP doesn't do anything for those like the op and myself who "don't have the itme to fly around for an hour or two just hoping to run into a good fight."
Do you disagree with that? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.12.19 18:55:00 -
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Cearain wrote:But what I am saying is CCP doesn't do anything for those like the op and myself who "don't have the itme to fly around for an hour or two just hoping to run into a good fight."
Do you disagree with that?
I agree, but I also know CCP is in a rough position; the playerbase largely wouldn't accept instanced PvP (with some missions/plexes being the exception) and any mechanic that compelled players to fight could be flipped to compel them to fight massively outnumbered/over-shipped. At least, that's what I would do, repeatedly push the "EJECT" button on stations and force people to welp their ****** fleets into me.
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2011.12.19 19:12:00 -
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Mfume Apocal wrote:Cearain wrote:But what I am saying is CCP doesn't do anything for those like the op and myself who "don't have the itme to fly around for an hour or two just hoping to run into a good fight."
Do you disagree with that? I agree, but I also know CCP is in a rough position; the playerbase largely wouldn't accept instanced PvP (with some missions/plexes being the exception) and any mechanic that compelled players to fight could be flipped to compel them to fight massively outnumbered/over-shipped. At least, that's what I would do, repeatedly push the "EJECT" button on stations and force people to welp their ****** fleets into me.
We both agree we don't want instanced pvp. That is the bad design way out.
I really don't think it's impossible to get mechanics that promote frequent quality small scale pvp. Just make faction war so that there are several plexes springing up at too many different places for a blob to get to in time. This will split the blobs up.
I'm not saying this is necessarilly easy to do right. It will no doubt take balancing because you don't want so many plexes so far spread out. Because then, everyone can do them without a fight. But you don't want too few where whoever has the biggest blob just wins. In between there is a balance where you have enough plexes in different areas where blobs can't cover them all but not so many that both sides can plex without ever running into eachother.
I also imagine the numbers of plexes will need to change over time as the number of people doing them increase.
This will take iterations to get it right. But it can be done, and would be worth doing. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Forum Fighter
Internet Tough Guys
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Posted - 2011.12.19 20:41:00 -
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Amamake is a FW hub and there is a noob pvp corp based out of there that camps the gates and EW blobbing lone guys in a frigate and such. Better fights to be had in Hevrice with The Tuskers IMO. Bearer of the 1600mm Tinfoil Hat -¬ |
Capital T
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.23 06:15:00 -
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Its right next to a trade hub too... |
Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:31:00 -
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Come to Hevrice if you want quality small scale fights, particularly in frigates, around about 20:00 - 24:00 is when we're most active. |
SeaSaw
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.23 17:22:00 -
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Good Sirs;
Why go to Amamanke?
You can almost always get chased around 3.1 by whatever group is hanging out there that hour (usually heritics I think).
You can transfer your clone there if you are in a starter corp (like Pator Tech or whatever) and you don't have to stay since you don't have to go red to fight with the reds in system.
It is 6 steps to Rens (avoiding the always camped gate) using the osurgur exit. It is 8 steps to Hek via the Dal exit (which is never camped).
Bosborger is 2 steps away and full of asteroid belts to wander if you get bored. I think my only kills in the last six months are in bosborger.
The real truth is I would rather get shot at by the gangs at 3.1 than wander empty space with the directional scanner for hours and hours and hours. I don't play much and want to engage and die right away. You also get to test yourself against the Navy Hookbill and the Ares with different fits, it is good to have predictable fits so you can try different things out and some of the people at Amamake never seem to change their fits.
So come and shoot it up. Or just ride around in a 5 stabbed rupture.
your humble servent Seasaw |
Green Beans
The Black Legionnares Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.12.30 07:15:00 -
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Amamake is the hotspot that it is for the reasons everybody else mentioned before me as well as the fact that it has Pator Tech School, and noobs swing by there for good deals on skillbooks. noobtrap! Plus, they might think Amamake is a cute name. Amamake some carebears cry, bronies! Hah, pun. Nothing here! |
Jimmyhatt
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2011.12.30 20:30:00 -
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Its always been that way. It just didnt appear over time.. It has always been a PVP hub. Its easily accessable. As far back as I can remember its been a PVP hub.. I have been playing since 04 and im a current resident of Ama. Other systems have tried but Ama always provides fighs to the faithful.
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Forum Fighter
Internet Tough Guys
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Posted - 2011.12.31 07:20:00 -
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Because Heretic Army camps the gates and ewar blobs a solo guy in a frigate. Bearer of the 1600mm Tinfoil HatGäó |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
147
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Posted - 2011.12.31 11:07:00 -
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Valleria Darkmoon wrote:The reasons people like Amamake are many and I won't list them as they've been covered already. That being said I know for sure if you come in and ask for a 1v1 a Heretic will likely take you up on it and the rest of us will not intervene.
Heretic is great to have in Amamake. But as far as the 1v1 fights. Will these 1v1 fights involve a t3 booster? Do you need to request that specifically? I'm not making judgments. I Just want to know. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Korg Tronix
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2011.12.31 12:10:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Valleria Darkmoon wrote:The reasons people like Amamake are many and I won't list them as they've been covered already. That being said I know for sure if you come in and ask for a 1v1 a Heretic will likely take you up on it and the rest of us will not intervene.
Heretic is great to have in Amamake. But as far as the 1v1 fights. Will these 1v1 fights involve a t3 booster? Do you need to request that specifically? I'm not making judgments. I Just want to know.
If you have asked for the 1v1 there won't be a booster, but fighting a random heretic in the belt they may be boosted. There are some that don't have boosts anyway because they roam around etc. Evil: If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One! [zaps one of his minions accidentally, minion screams] Evil: Sorry. -á |
Dorian Tormak
P0ON
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Posted - 2011.12.31 18:31:00 -
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they chose amamake because that's where the noobs are
noobies: easy kills in a belt
and then they can get thousands of kills because they have logistics, camping their camp
and then they can feel like pros
but they still know i am the only true pro
so that is why they never came to egghelende
because you don't **** with the MAK
thread die thread die thread die Open the pod bay doors, Hal. |
Goose99
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
421
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Posted - 2011.12.31 19:33:00 -
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Lol@1v1. Pretty much the only real pvp left those days are in artificial environment like RvB. Everything else is risk aversion, blobbing, smack and epeen. I blame kms. |
Dorian Tormak
P0ON
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Posted - 2011.12.31 20:20:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:Lol@1v1. Pretty much the only real pvp left those days are in artificial environment like RvB. Everything else is risk aversion, blobbing, smack and epeen. I blame kms. Spoken like a true blobber; and wouldn't you know it, you're a Gallente-hating Matari fanboy like all the others. Open the pod bay doors, Hal. |
Masatoshi Hamada
The Unknown Bar and Pub
2
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Posted - 2011.12.31 21:15:00 -
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Amamake is a good place to get a guaranteed fight. There is always someone willing to fight the asteroid belt to your top.
Plus, even if I do not want to fight, there are ways to avoid Ossogur camp. I pass over Vard Gulmorogod gatecamps to avoid all possible, and more. |
Plutonian
Intransigent
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Posted - 2012.01.01 06:35:00 -
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Suleiman Shouaa wrote:Come to Hevrice if you want quality small scale fights, particularly in frigates, around about 20:00 - 24:00 is when we're most active.
This.
Sooo much this. |
Suzu Fujibayashi
Happy Dudes
1
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Posted - 2012.01.01 16:24:00 -
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Plutonian wrote:Suleiman Shouaa wrote:Come to Hevrice if you want quality small scale fights, particularly in frigates, around about 20:00 - 24:00 is when we're most active. This. Sooo much this.
Yes. |
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