Well I have to agree with the OP.

I run a lot of Serpentis sites (albeit in hi and low sec) and there have been several times where nothing at all dropped. I ran 4 Serpentis Phi-Outposts about a week ago and each one of them only dropped the overseer effects and random modules that were not deadspace or faction modules. Similarly, I have either scanned or escalated into Serpentis Narcotics Warehouses that have dropped very little as well - one escalated into a nullsec system and it dropped only 3M ISK, most of which was the overseer effect. Absolute waste of time.

Just last night I ran the final escalation of Booster R&D and upon killing the drug escort BC, he dropped a Shadow Serpentis module worth 800K ISK and some drugs worth much less. If a site is taking you into the risky areas of space, the loot should be appropriately rewarding.

The drops are random. They are not guaranteed.

That's a little bit different though. If drop rates were increased, then the value would drop anyway, and you'd be right back were you started. In incursions, you get straight isk so you don't have to worry about it devaluing (plus some LP, which has been devaluing over the years).

That might be so, but I think it isn't that far a stretch to say that going deep into nullsec for an expedition to drop 3M ISK is quite unreasonable given the current status of a hi-sec incursion.

Sure the value may drop, but it isn't going to drop so much that it would be worse than getting a crappy 3M ISK in overseer effects.

Well, the Dev's just might be readjusting the loot table .......................... again.

Best to run some more sites for a couple of days and see if it remains the same. If not, then you just had a run of bad luck.



DMC

I did a few 7s and 8s today and my loot has been normal.

Well, just got 4 more done so now im up to 12 prison camps, 2 para mil outposts, and 1 shipyard. Still have not seen a vindy bpc or an outstanding drop since the start of my bad drops. I have been doing this for some time and i under stand that there is no guarantee of great drops everytime. My point is ive done enough of these to know that the amount i have done at this point over a week period is suggesting something has changed or is wrong. I have gone on bad spells for numerous sites but not even close to the amount im up to now. I even have a few friends that have also reported the same issue.

Ill be back out tonight and do some more if i can find some and see what happens.

Random. Also, you are running anoms in one of the most trafficked nullsec space there is. You might be hitting a bad patch, and someone else is getting good drops. The pendulum will swing back to you....eventually.

May i ask how did u determine where i am running my ded sites?

Also, I never stated where i was doing them and deds are not anoms, they are cosmic sigs which means they have to be scanned big difference please dont troll if u dont know what your talking about.

Another note im doing my sites in sov null, not npc null. I just did another 8 which dropped the box and a core b type hardner.

up to 13 prisons, 2 para, and 1 shipyard now.

By the loot you "think" you should be getting. Loot means you are in Serpentis nullsec or lowsec space. Serpentis loot only drops in Gallente space, syndicate space, or serpentis space.

No, im not doing deds in syndicate space and deds 7-10 only spawn in null sec, not low. As said before i am doing them in sov space which syndicate is npc null, not sov null therefore im not doing my sites there. I am doing them in sov null space and the region i do them actually does not have much traffic at all in certain areas. Deep in this region u can go on for hrs and not see people.

No, im not doing deds in syndicate space and deds 7-10 only spawn in null sec, not low. As said before i am doing them in sov space which syndicate is npc null, not sov null therefore im not doing my sites there. I am doing them in sov null space and the region i do them actually does not have much traffic at all in certain areas. Deep in this region u can go on for hrs and not see people.

Then stop complaining. Even if you aren't getting good loot, you are still getting good bounty ticks with less risk. HTFU.

Just finished another 8/10 and its been the worst. The shadow bs dropped ammo and tags only not even a 200k armor mod. The tower dropped just a box nothing else, not even a few meta mods lol.

So, my count is now up to as follows:

2, paramilitary complexes 7/10

14, prison camps 8/10

1, serp. fleet shipyard 10/10

Your sample size is still very small.

Maybe when you do them too often the loot tables adjust just for you? (Talking off the cuff here.)

It doesn't have to be a large amount, hence the reason it's called a sample.

After a while players can pretty much determine if drops have been reduced just by comparing it to the average amount gained in the past.


DMC

I've wondered more and more whether this is the case. I tend to play in fits and bursts. When I come back I note that I pretty much always get excellent drop rates for a few days. This then tails off.

To be fair CCP would be daft not to have such a mechanic in the game - it would increase retention of new players coming back into the game without really changing the overall influx of items into the game.

Not Serpentis.. but I ran three DED 4/10 Blood Raider sites and got a combined 14.5m from them. Had all three in my journal at the same time too ofc.

Before what was ur avg on isk?

I was easily making around 500-1b a night with 2 people normally but not as of late! Payouts have been around 200m or under for a night If it keeps up im done with doing deds ill do other things that will pay off better or start letting my alts run out of game time!

I guess it's hard for me to really put a ISK/day number on it.