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Benco97 Gallente Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:40:00 - [1] Hello all, listen to my idea please I would like to run a farm, either as a stand-alone building for when the SPOSs are introduced or as an add-on for a POS. Basically you get some livestock or veggies, get some food/fetilizers/soils/stuff and wait. Sometimes you would need pesticides/antibiotics. This would produce more livestock/veggies. For this to work I propose that livestock be split into several smaller groups such as cows/sheep/pigs/space turkeys/fedo/etc and some veg being added. you could have an "animal husbandry"/"Green fingers" skill that increases the weekly/monthly output of your livestock/veg They also interact with eachother as veggies could be used to feed animals and animal waste can be used to fertilize plants. However, the main problem is... Why would anyone BUY Livestock/veg from a farmer? that's what needs thinking about. Perhaps Animals can be reprocessed into biomass and so would have an NPC market or required for outposts and stuff, veg...hmm... that's more difficult.. So come on all you smart peeps out there, help me refine my farm idea. "MY GOD KEEP THIS AWAY FROM BENCO97!!!!!" - Constantine Arcanum
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:41:00 - [2] You're smoking the crop.
Daravel Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:41:00 - [3] Do we get space whales though? Aiming for the longest Sig hijack ever! Write me a story about a young pilot called Daravel...
Sgt Napalm Synergy Evolved Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:42:00 - [4] What on earth... Retired [ISSN] [Video] Skool of Harpy - Da Blarpy
SamuelAdams Gallente	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:44:00 - [5] Thats a cool enough idea but if we do that then there should be a brewery too.
Flaming sambuka	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:46:00 - [6] Lol, this must be a joke thread
Kharakan Amarr Morticus Impendium	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:47:00 - [7] Originally by: Flaming sambuka Lol, this must be a joke thread Knowing the OP, it might not be XD this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
Tachy	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:48:00 - [8] Nope, ccp promised to develop more things like these so the trade goods would be more important and actually be usefull. --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Darius Shakor Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:49:00 - [9] Play the Sims 2. Pretty much all you described there. (Or the new Seasons expansion pack will have harvestable crops in it, as well as player mods.) ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=3
Vandar Broheem Universal Dynamics	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:50:00 - [10] Okay add this to your idea. Once they introduce walking in stations they have in-station restaurants that serve the meat and veggies you grow. Different meals can provide different effects, from simply fulfilling hunger to booster like effects depending on the quality of the food.
TheFirstInquisitor	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:52:00 - [11] Someone just got out of rehabilitation for a Harvest Moon obsession didn`t they... But that actualy works, I don`t know how but the idea has caught my interest, hook, line, sinker and copy of Anglers monthly. Note to all, What I say may be infact of a more humorous tone than comes accross.
Benco97 Gallente Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:53:00 - [12] Originally by: Kharakan Originally by: Flaming sambuka Lol, this must be a joke thread Knowing the OP, it might not be XD I so want to put this in my sig but my current one is awesome too... yes, it's a real idea, I think it would be good. Then I really CAN be a Fedo Breeder. "Benco97, The Fedo stamp of quality" printed on a sticker placed on the number 1 placed prize Fedo of the "Fedo Appreciation Group beauty contest" Seriously. "MY GOD KEEP THIS AWAY FROM BENCO97!!!!!" - Constantine Arcanum
phishstik Gallente Hammer Of Light Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:58:00 - [13] Or how about, keep them on a planet to eat grass. Which sounds easier?
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.01.03 21:00:00 - [14] Animals? Sure, if we can create these things and throw at our enemies. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Shavarr	Posted - 2007.01.03 21:05:00 - [15] EvE already has "Astrofarm" structures in some Deadspace complexes, so this could be a reality. Now, it would be somewhat harder to find the use for products that it would make... Perhaps you could consume the diary products it would produce, and, say, gain a "Well Fed" buff that would increase your Spirit and Stamina by 15%... oh wait...
Flaming sambuka	Posted - 2007.01.03 21:10:00 - [16] So your actually proposing to have sort of a farm pos put into eve? I hate to say it but, cool idea! I cant see how it will help lol but yah 10/10 for creativity. Maybe a i dunno 'food system' could be implemented into the game like your pilot needs to eat every now and then, just like real life, so you stop off at pos donald's and fuel up otherwise stuff happens to you when you fly, dunno what stuff tho, sumin like that.
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2007.01.03 21:13:00 - [17] This thread wins for "space turkeys" alone. Benco, I propose that the Burst be overhauled as a specialized Minni agriculture/cropduster/space turkey processing ship. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Xyliana	Posted - 2007.01.03 21:16:00 - [18] Originally by: Daravel Do we get space whales though? You should really be asking to have a sea world on your POS ----------- Split Infinity Radio Eve Online DJ
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2007.01.03 21:17:00 - [19] Adding food, or any fixed cost system into the game is a bad idea. Adding extra production requirements for ships and modules is a bad idea. Its great if you want to play a single player trading game, its not great if you are trying to drive a managed multiplayer economy. Anyway, "farms" exist in the fill up with materials, sit and wait for stuff mechanic, and they are called mining POS's. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew"
Zyrla Bladestorm Minmatar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.01.03 21:38:00 - [20] I think anything related to farming and trade goods for trade goods sake has probably been relegated to "Advanced planetary interaction" and is thus some number of years between about 2 and hrm 10 maybe in the future Anyhow I'd rather large, expensive pos modules whereby you feed in minerals and get out mechanical parts or the likes myself, reduce a little bit of hassle and dependency on empire when managing a pos network, but introduce new strategic concern in the process . ----- It's great being Minmatar, ain't it? Apologies for any rambling that may have just occurred.
Omber Zombie Gallente Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2007.01.03 21:40:00 - [21] old McBenco97 had a farm, eeee i eeee i ohhhh... ---------------------- FTEK is Recruiting
Benco97 Gallente Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2007.01.03 21:41:00 - [22] Originally by: Tsanse Kinske This thread wins for "space turkeys" alone. Benco, I propose that the Burst be overhauled as a specialized Minni agriculture/cropduster/space turkey processing ship. Well damn... that's the finest idea i've heard all year "MY GOD KEEP THIS AWAY FROM BENCO97!!!!!" - Constantine Arcanum
Haffrage Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.03 21:46:00 - [23] Man, I'd love to grow cows, sheep, even goats. I wouldn't sell them though... =X -----
Amantus Gallente Murientor Tribe Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.01.03 21:57:00 - [24] The peaceful Intaki in me demands this as a feature. I could go out to my farm in a pair of old dungarees and a straw hat and grow lots of vegetables for a while after killing somebody as a kind of karma-balancing thing. Yay! ----------- It's great being Gallente aint it? No, seriously I think it's pretty good.
Winters Chill Amarr Scavenger Technologies	Posted - 2007.01.03 23:47:00 - [25] Originally by: Cmdr Sy You're smoking the crop. No thats the amarrs job. What do you think we grow in the Joint Harvest Plantations?
Calderio Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.03 23:51:00 - [26] Originally by: Daravel Do we get space whales though? signed, we need space whales rwar sig Listen to me on bob radio 00:00 eve time every friday and saturday http://stream1.bobonair.com:8000/listen-broadband.aac.m3u or go to www.bobonair.com
Nikla Uthaan Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.03 23:52:00 - [27] Then we can have giant-space pumpkin growing competitions. Every crop season, farmers jet their ultra-large pumpkins into space and have them mined by Hulks. The pumpkin which yields the most pulp wins a T2 Pumpkin BPO. ----------------- One word,, emo,,, The Mishing is an ethnic group in the districts of North Lakhimpur, Sonitput, Dhemaji, Dibrugarh, Sibsagar, Jorhat, Golaghat, Tinsukia of Assam.
Cranewhite Lighting ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.03 23:55:00 - [28] Why would anyone with even half of a mind want to run a space farm when you can simply do it on a planet is beyond me.
Nikla Uthaan Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.04 00:00:00 - [29] Originally by: Cranewhite Lighting Why would anyone with even half of a mind want to run a space farm when you can simply do it on a planet is beyond me. Different conditions, zero-G farming would be quite interesting. A planet has constant conditions too, so if you cant grow those mangoes on the surface, grow em in space! ----------------- One word,, emo,,, The Mishing is an ethnic group in the districts of North Lakhimpur, Sonitput, Dhemaji, Dibrugarh, Sibsagar, Jorhat, Golaghat, Tinsukia of Assam.
Cupertino Castellum	Posted - 2007.01.04 00:03:00 - [30] 0_o
Benco97 Gallente Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2007.01.04 00:27:00 - [31] Aww.. you know you all love it "MY GOD KEEP THIS AWAY FROM BENCO97!!!!!" - Constantine Arcanum
Zomiaen Gallente Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.04 00:29:00 - [32] I want a trillion ISK, you don't see me getting it do ya? But, in seriousness, its...an, erm, interesting idea. Not sure what use it'd have though... _________________________ pirates wear pink! - eris was herrrrrrre
Breki Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.04 00:38:00 - [33] i want a spacefarm with sheep.... would be pretty cool but then we need a sheep launcher Originally by: Avon Iceland, where even their singers are in to PvP.
Briggand Moore Minmatar Midnight Enterprises	Posted - 2007.01.04 00:55:00 - [34] Originally by: Breki i want a spacefarm with sheep.... would be pretty cool but then we need a sheep launcher And Banana Bombs
Nikla Uthaan Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.04 01:03:00 - [35] Maybe Slaves and Elite Slaves could come in handy then for tending the fields :) Elite slaves are obviously more productive, and Minmataar pod pilots the best! ----------------- One word,, emo,,, The Mishing is an ethnic group in the districts of North Lakhimpur, Sonitput, Dhemaji, Dibrugarh, Sibsagar, Jorhat, Golaghat, Tinsukia of Assam.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.04 01:10:00 - [36] Well, if you want this farm in low sec, make sure you have plenty of sheep on hand to trade with he local pirates... Newest toy for my 63 acre sandbox Building the homestead
Altrex Stoppel SniggWaffe	Posted - 2007.01.04 01:56:00 - [37] Originally by: Nikla Uthaan Maybe Slaves and Elite Slaves could come in handy then for tending the fields :) Elite slaves are obviously more productive, and Minmataar pod pilots the best! I fell out of my chair Omg, Dark Shikari got pregnant with the forums! Great being a forum ***** isn't it?
Das Forscher Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.01.04 02:06:00 - [38] and I thought I could get in before the slave joke :/ _____________________________________________________
Capt Harlock Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.04 02:08:00 - [39] Thanx for making me giggle. I really liked the part about the veg interacting with the animals.
Trauts Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.01.04 02:53:00 - [40] I like this idea, but it would be more fun if.... Instead of vegies and animals you make alcoholic drinks. You grow grapes, oats, hops, barley, yeast, etc. (not sure where you would buy the seeds from) and you ferment it and bottle it to sell. Consuming one of these drinks would work like a booster (+15% speed / -15% targeting speed) and the strength of the drink could vary by the quality of the ingredients used. Or instead of acting like a booster it could make the graphics all trippy and mabey make ingame voice coms sound slow-mo or something. You could name each batch, "Trauts' Ale 42" and so on, to allow the best batches to be known by name. Now thats an idea i can see CCP putting some real effort into! Expect an emergency patch in a few days to introduce this. I have no sig.
Plaetean Remnants of Times olde	Posted - 2007.01.04 03:51:00 - [41] That's awesome. I need a sig
Ghana Straa	Posted - 2007.01.04 03:53:00 - [42] Sounds like the OP needs to try X3 . . . in that game you can grow some space weed and feed the cows
Zeknichov Amarr Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.04 03:59:00 - [43] I like the idea. The specifics could use some work.
tiewan	Posted - 2007.01.04 05:45:00 - [44] I don't think I would farm.. but I love the idea of giving purpose to trade goods.
Phant Zon Minmatar No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.01.04 05:57:00 - [45] No dice unless I can raise Bilbys. If they add that I will be the happiest lil' Sebestior of all. Herdin' the Bilbies, feeding them and playing with them... sighs dreamilly
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.01.04 07:06:00 - [46] Originally by: Haffrage Man, I'd love to grow cows, sheep, even goats. I wouldn't sell them though... =X Why is a goat the mascot of Shroud of Darkness? becuase a sheep would be to obvious
Cygnet Lythanea The Eiken Club	Posted - 2007.01.17 04:21:00 - [47] Actually... I suggested a POS farming gizmo a while back, though not nearly so... in depth as this... Gives new meaning to the term Harvest Moon, dosn't it?? Seriously, a modual that can produce certain trade goods would make sense, and CCP sort of hints they might exist if you read the info on dirt and fertilizer... New Mini profession: Space Ganja Farmer... She's hunting you, pirate scum...
Demon Johnson Federation of Synthetic Persons YouWhat	Posted - 2007.01.17 10:53:00 - [48] Originally by: Benco97 For this to work I propose that livestock be split into several smaller groups such as cows/sheep/pigs/space turkeys/fedo/etc and some veg being added. Pigs in space!
Getorix Averni	Posted - 2007.09.23 10:00:00 - [49] I think it's a great idea. Making the Eve universe as diverse as possible can only be a positive thing. Even if, like myself, you are only interested in the combat, taking part in a environment where there are as many different play styles as possible is exciting. The folks that dis the idea out of hand, just because farming doesn't appeal to them shouldn't be so narrow, (or bloody) minded. Livestock and veggies could be reprocessed into various buffs. very good idea.
Getorix Averni	Posted - 2007.09.23 10:19:00 - [50] Trade, and transport could also be enhanced through this idea. By making different species, or breeds, or end products region specific, it would make the trade lanes busier. This would give the combat players something else to steal, or protect.
Josson Turtur Gallente Trader's Academy Daikoku Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.09.23 10:29:00 - [51] Originally by: Benco97 Hello all, listen to my idea please I would like to run a farm, either as a stand-alone building for when the SPOSs are introduced or as an add-on for a POS. Benco! I love this idea. If it ever gets implimented. I wanna help your farm! Sign me up. :) _ Miner, Trader, Space Cowboy Josson Turtur
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.09.23 10:44:00 - [52] this thread smells of death and necro. CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
Ooyama Caldari Fain LLC	Posted - 2007.09.23 11:34:00 - [53] Originally by: Trauts I like this idea, but it would be more fun if.... Instead of vegies and animals you make alcoholic drinks. You grow grapes, oats, hops, barley, yeast, etc. (not sure where you would buy the seeds from) and you ferment it and bottle it to sell. Consuming one of these drinks would work like a booster (+15% speed / -15% targeting speed) and the strength of the drink could vary by the quality of the ingredients used. Or instead of acting like a booster it could make the graphics all trippy and mabey make ingame voice coms sound slow-mo or something. You could name each batch, "Trauts' Ale 42" and so on, to allow the best batches to be known by name. Now thats an idea i can see CCP putting some real effort into! Expect an emergency patch in a few days to introduce this. I have no sig. /signed. (i think that whould work fine with ambulation, and the possibility of bars). Ooyama. <>-------------------------------------<> I think it's little to ask, that every Concord-pilot roll over and die, that i may live in my version of a perfect world of eternal joy, fun, and justice.
BATMorpheous Caldari BAT Empire VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.23 12:12:00 - [54] Edited by: BATMorpheous on 23/09/2007 12:15:28 Edited by: BATMorpheous on 23/09/2007 12:15:00 omg...what an idea.......we could farm tribbles...lots of them....equip tribble launchers on our ships....Notice:BATMorpheous hits you with a tribble doing 0.0 damage but remains now splatter your***pit window obscuring your view.......oh hell yeah come on ccp get on board! seriously though this sounds like a good idea but i see alot of coding going on for it to work. omg...you cant say***pit?................dammit
Suboran Gallente Sphinx Inc Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.09.23 12:58:00 - [55] are you gamirian? kumbayah
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2007.09.23 13:08:00 - [56] Buy Harvest Moon. It's most enjoyable:) "If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein A blog of truth (not mine)
Scordaf Ganja Labs	Posted - 2007.09.23 13:33:00 - [57] Farming? WTF would you want that? Why would you want to use your POS for producing ISK? No... What we really need is superfluous rubbish... Like... I don't know... Walking in stations... Yeah! Now that's what I call value added gameplay.
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.23 13:44:00 - [58] Originally by: Celeste Coeval Buy Harvest Moon. It's most enjoyable:) Originally by: TheFirstInquisitor From 8 MONTHS ago Someone just got out of rehabilitation for a Harvest Moon obsession didn`t they... But that actualy works, I don`t know how but the idea has caught my interest, hook, line, sinker and copy of Anglers monthly. I think he got that idea a little earlier than you did, good effort on the idea sniping though Originally by: CCP Morpheus Post with your alt.
Ka'rahni Universal Core Mining	Posted - 2007.09.23 13:46:00 - [59] I really like the idea of space farms. BUT, if we get space farms, my piggies will be wearing space helmets, like, the round glass fishbowl ones. I only say this because I want to see it, and then laugh for a good 5 minutes. ---------------------------------
John McDuff Caldari Jovian Labs Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.23 14:07:00 - [60] ppl come on, pigs in space? WHY? There are perfectly good planets all over this galaxy where farming would work a lot better - as in without the logistical nightmare of feeding your animals in space and all the messy effects zero-G will be having on manure and the sorts. If you wanna tie market commodities to POS production there are ways that border to normality. For instance maybe have some moons be habitable, their mining produce being various kinds of animals and plants for which certain hub modules would be needed at the POS orbiting the moon. --- "Everyone speaks of my drinking, but never of my thirst" Everyone can now start bowing down to me in an orderly fashion...
Keesd	Posted - 2007.09.23 14:25:00 - [61] I think the idea of having farms is great! Giving them a purpose could be done fairly easily by creating more missions for food transport (there are some there). Famine outbreaks, new colonies, things like that. And of course famines on a planetary scale would require HUGE volumes of the stuff. Yes, they probably would not be the most exciting kind of missions, but courier ones rarely are and these would really mean something.
Ka'rahni Universal Core Mining	Posted - 2007.09.23 14:28:00 - [62] I would turn off the artificial gravity and throw the food in the room. Then watch the piglets float-race to it. It would be priceless. Next step would be to put it on Youtube...which would still have it's new page style in beta... ---------------------------------
Valan	Posted - 2007.09.23 14:42:00 - [63] Do tech 2 pigs fly? /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game three years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.23 15:31:00 - [64] Originally by: Valan Do tech 2 pigs fly? Only when correctly fitted into a T2 Pig Flack Cannon. On a serious note, why not have an orbital elevator module for the POS to establish surface based mining operations? IE ammar issue Surface modules would require slaves, gallente ones drones, caldari ones minmatar and minmatar ones other minmatar. To supply power you could deploy an orbital solar array and deliver power via microwave to a receiver or something. Originally by: CCP Morpheus Post with your alt.
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2007.09.23 15:33:00 - [65] Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Celeste Coeval Buy Harvest Moon. It's most enjoyable:) Originally by: TheFirstInquisitor From 8 MONTHS ago Someone just got out of rehabilitation for a Harvest Moon obsession didn`t they... But that actualy works, I don`t know how but the idea has caught my interest, hook, line, sinker and copy of Anglers monthly. I think he got that idea a little earlier than you did, good effort on the idea sniping though Sniping? I have played every harvest moon game... Cheeky Originally by: Death Kill Go travel or live in the rainforest if neccesary, just dont turn to religion as its a cul de sac.
Shiner BockBeer Go Go Gadget ForumPostingAlt	Posted - 2007.09.23 15:43:00 - [66] I'd go for it as long as the space whales are in.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.09.23 15:44:00 - [67] Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Lisento Slaven Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.09.23 15:51:00 - [68] Originally by: EVETV Xyliana Originally by: Daravel Do we get space whales though? You should really be asking to have a sea world on your POS I kindly refer both of you to my spacewhale thread which I am pretty sure is linked in my sig. --- Put in space whales!
Tawrich Tistrya	Posted - 2007.10.14 21:32:00 - [69] Curiously enough i find myself looking for astrofarms on this forum to see if they drop anything interesting to add to my collection and i stumble upon this thread. Farms would be able to add a new profession to the game and as such i think it's really worth thinking about. Aslong as i have been playing i have wanted to find some use for tradegoods. I have collected alot of that stuff already and made my own lil bioproject. Nice amounts of slaves , exotic dancers and militants and such , all thrown into a container , add some livestock , alcohol , sigarets and drugs and as last ingredient Enriched Uranium , now bring on the mutants. I'd love to see some sort of visual ingame to this. To the OP : Great idea , keep it up.
3535325385hdgsbndgsdjg	Posted - 2007.10.14 21:34:00 - [70] Would I be able to employ other pod pilots to work on my farm picking rice?
shortattenionsp	Posted - 2007.10.14 22:36:00 - [71] Space farms? GENIUS
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.10.14 22:39:00 - [72] Edited by: LUH 3471 on 14/10/2007 22:45:16 how about space flies or space worms which mostly residate in asteroid fields and attack miners
Haerana The Republican Guard The Sundering	Posted - 2007.10.15 00:10:00 - [73] Man. if i could farm Llama from a POS... i dont think i would do anything else ever. Also to everybody whinin about zero-G. if they can make gravity to walk around in stations/ships then why cant you make it on a farming module eh? Also Raising Space Llama would make them a new hybrid form of awesomeness able to adapt and live in space. You could have a zero-g bit and a gravity bit. SUPER LLAMA ------------------------------- Here comes the sig............. The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie
Redbad Minmatar Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.10.15 00:59:00 - [74] We are always in need for livestock after the exotic dansers got nerfed and got replaced by janitors in some missions. RB

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