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scabbsssjr
Gallente
M'8'S
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Posted - 2007.01.08 04:40:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Nitrogendixoide
Do they actually own the station yet? 'cause it's name hasn't been changed yet.
Hi NEC guy.
D2 has probally countered ISS's sov, their for meaning they have to take the stations shields out than they can change the name.
Until D2 has sov, it can be a ping pong match of taking shields out.
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Belid Hagen
The Graduates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.08 04:47:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
We had a goal..it has been achieved.
ISS:hey D2 do you want the station
D2:No
ISS:ok then
D2:We declare war on ISS to take thier outposts
ISS:...
D2: our victorious crusaders have snatched victory from the jaws of defeat against the hardcore pvp'ers of ISS
excuse me if i dont share your enthusiasm for your "victory"
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Hesed
Hamartia.
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Posted - 2007.01.08 05:07:00 -
[33]
Well, from what I've been reading, you can just go by the numbers on this. Instead of D2 taking approx 1/3rd or so of ISS Cassini profits, they have elected to go for a larger market share along with the administrative costs.  Going by second hand reports, (hey I'm not rich enough to own them fangled shares) it seems it's not all that much isk in the scheme of things. At least not compared to your average complex farm op.
Also, EC is probably now the new focus of Titan-related conflicts since it is fairly easy to ship minerals there.
The only people who really seem to lose here are the pirate-ish types in the area that aren't already Napped with D2. Someone will still have to keep the flocks of noobs out of the north without tapping those NPC farming alliances' personnel (aren't they a Super-NAP now?) -- a job which was once effectively and gleefully provided for free by most pirate-ish groups in the area.
Just stating the obvious really. Looks like D2 are gearing up for fun times and this is just a warm-up exercise.
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prathe
Minmatar
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.08 06:50:00 -
[34]
outpost was ours to begin with , it's ours again .
kudos to iss who graciously allowed us to dock in their(now our) outpost during this little tussle , it really helped during bio break time .
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rodgerd
ClanKillers
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.08 07:00:00 -
[35]
Originally by: ec p8r
As long as d2 pays the daily tritanium, they can have my system's outpost.
Dude, you were the best part of camping the Torrinos gate.
Long may you continue to liven up boring sentry duty.
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Zylatis
AUS Corporation
CORE.
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Posted - 2007.01.10 01:54:00 -
[36]
Quote:
You got your parade float out for killing a large afk ship, so let us enjoy our small success
owned.
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Zylatis
AUS Corporation
CORE.
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Posted - 2007.01.10 01:54:00 -
[37]
Quote:
You got your parade float out for killing a large afk ship, so let us enjoy our small success
owned.
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.10 02:17:00 -
[38]
I could have sworn I posted about this on our forum.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One."
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Leto Twin
Amarr
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.10 02:51:00 -
[39]
I wonder if the shareholders in D2 are impressed...
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BlackDog Rackh'am
Minmatar
Maza Nostra
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.10 03:25:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Vince Draken
D2 decided to flex their mussles by declaring war on an already weakened industrial alliance that is busy fighting 50 jumps way on the other side of the cluster. I wonder if they managed this challenge by themselves or if they needed to bring the parade float with them.
Even if they were not fighting elswhere...I seriously doubt the outcome would have been any different.
Accepted, there was little or no resistance. Our tactics were ruthless, we did not go there to provide honourable 1v1 pvp for small pirate corps or entertain the locals. We had a goal..it has been achieved.
I dont know why you feel the urge to knock everything that anyone else does.
You got your parade float out for killing a large afk ship, so let us enjoy our small success
I can't help but agree with this. What's with all the measuring sticks about D2's abilities?
In the recent past, it has been stated countless times by your leaders Vince that the EC deal was more in the vein of "got a job to do" than "let's get a fight". You went there, blobbed the place up, killed the POS and took the outpost against an industrial alliance. Now that D2 is following your example you think it's bad?
I mean, some people are always talking about how D2 needs to rise up to the challenge of facing BoB. Well, you should be glad because they are halfway there...judging by what they are doing against ISS they have started emulating you and we all know that half the trouble of accomplishing anything lies in taking the decision to start it
I usually avoid sarcasm and irony, but in this case it's so funny i can't help it, sorry 
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Player One
Minmatar
Die wilde 13
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Posted - 2007.01.10 09:16:00 -
[41]
found this piece of art on the german e-o boards ...
sums it up pretty well, d2 are a bunch of degenerated carebears, trying their luck in unleash hell onto a small holy neutral alliance, shame on them.
bad d2, in the corner with you!
tsk tsk how you could become so like bob? 0o
shame shame shame...
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 09:39:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Player One
found this piece of art on the german e-o boards ...
sums it up pretty well, d2 are a bunch of degenerated carebears, trying their luck in unleash hell onto a small holy neutral alliance, shame on them.
bad d2, in the corner with you!
tsk tsk how you could become so like bob? 0o
shame shame shame...
HEhe thats pretty funny.
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Laythun
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.10 10:04:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Belid Hagen
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
We had a goal..it has been achieved.
ISS:hey D2 do you want the station
D2:No
ISS:ok then
D2:We declare war on ISS to take thier outposts
ISS:...
D2: our victorious crusaders have snatched victory from the jaws of defeat against the hardcore pvp'ers of ISS
excuse me if i dont share your enthusiasm for your "victory"
It was never painted that way in any case.
CEI's own Undercover Brother [MIA]
It's great being Amarr, aint it?Ö
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Dekiri
Exanimo Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.10 10:17:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Player One
found this piece of art on the german e-o boards ...
sums it up pretty well, d2 are a bunch of degenerated carebears, trying their luck in unleash hell onto a small holy neutral alliance, shame on them.
bad d2, in the corner with you!
tsk tsk how you could become so like bob? 0o
shame shame shame...
Awsome gif =)
DBP as barking dog made me almost ruin my keyboard with coffee =/
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vipeer
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.10 10:55:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Player One
found this piece of art on the german e-o boards ...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Very nice gif indeed :D
Oh; look. Doogie even has some teeth.
Does do anything else other than bark? Like....bite?
Chaining BoBo in south Feyth:
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Narny
Caldari
Nexus Legion
NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.01.10 10:57:00 -
[46]
Someone had to tighten up EC... It was a pirate infested craphole.
And no amount of "We're neutral" will ever change the fact that they were essentially opening the gates to the north to pirate type's.
o7 D2
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Aceformat
RazorBack Inc
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.10 11:19:00 -
[47]
To the OP
Short version;
EC-P8R was owned by TRUST
TRUST was considered G/IRON industrial alliance building capitals for them
A "Coilation" force takes the station
Station is passed to a netral entity ISS
G/some IRON corps reform and become D2
Neutral entity (Supposedly) aint so neutral
D2 and co take station back
The end ... so far
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Captain Rickdick
BURN EDEN
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.01.10 11:38:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Captain Rick**** on 10/01/2007 11:35:31
Edited by: Captain Rick**** on 10/01/2007 11:35:20
Originally by: JForce
The simple fact is that having a neutral outpost at the main entrance-way to the North allows all sorts of riff-raff through.
D2 are simply moving to secure the doorway to their space (along with a lot of other peoples space).
And we at N.W.A support them 110%
That is so obvious, why people feel the need to ask why they took it i dont know. A good move that should have been made along time ago.
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Dekiri
Exanimo Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.10 11:47:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Captain Rick****
Edited by: Captain Rick**** on 10/01/2007 11:35:31
Edited by: Captain Rick**** on 10/01/2007 11:35:20
Originally by: JForce
The simple fact is that having a neutral outpost at the main entrance-way to the North allows all sorts of riff-raff through.
D2 are simply moving to secure the doorway to their space (along with a lot of other peoples space).
And we at N.W.A support them 110%
That is so obvious, why people feel the need to ask why they took it i dont know. A good move that should have been made along time ago.
Ritchie.
While it is relativly obvious what they will try to do by "securing" that system, i honestly doubt they will achieve ANYTHING in regards to the pirate problems in EC-P.
That system and the surrounding systems will NEVER be secure and you will as in the past have varying entities camping the EC - Torrinos gate just like it always has been.
Unless of course D¦ decide that the system is worth all their resources 24/7(<-- not gonna happen).
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Smoking Mirror
Secret Interests Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.10 11:50:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Smoking Mirror on 10/01/2007 11:52:39
Originally by: Captain Rick****
Originally by: JForce
The simple fact is that having a neutral outpost at the main entrance-way to the North allows all sorts of riff-raff through.
D2 are simply moving to secure the doorway to their space (along with a lot of other peoples space).
And we at N.W.A support them 110%
That is so obvious, why people feel the need to ask why they took it i dont know. A good move that should have been made along time ago.
Ritchie.
Actually, what's obvious is that it's the jump portal, not the station, that is the doorway to the space. So unless D2 are willing to camp that portal 23/7, which they never were before, there won't be the slightest difference. Most of the "pirates and riff-raff" (TRI?) weren't allowed to dock at Cassini anyway, as far as I know.
D2 could have secured that system whenever they wanted, and couldn't/wouldn't. ISS probably would have been happy if they had -- since D2 was blue to ISS up until hours before D2's attack.
There was no security risk to D2 in EC, there wasn't going to be any, and the situation in EC won't change at all unless some poor schmoes from D2 are forced to camp the gate 23/7.
Have fun with that.
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Captain Rickdick
BURN EDEN
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.01.10 11:50:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Captain Rick**** on 10/01/2007 11:47:28
Originally by: Dekiri
Originally by: Captain Rick****
Edited by: Captain Rick**** on 10/01/2007 11:35:31
Edited by: Captain Rick**** on 10/01/2007 11:35:20
Originally by: JForce
The simple fact is that having a neutral outpost at the main entrance-way to the North allows all sorts of riff-raff through.
D2 are simply moving to secure the doorway to their space (along with a lot of other peoples space).
And we at N.W.A support them 110%
That is so obvious, why people feel the need to ask why they took it i dont know. A good move that should have been made along time ago.
Ritchie.
While it is relativly obvious what they will try to do by "securing" that system, i honestly doubt they will achieve ANYTHING in regards to the pirate problems in EC-P.
That system and the surrounding systems will NEVER be secure and you will as in the past have varying entities camping the EC - Torrinos gate just like it always has been.
Unless of course D¦ decide that the system is worth all their resources 24/7(<-- not gonna happen).
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Idaeus
Gallente
Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2007.01.10 13:04:00 -
[52]
Originally by: JForce
The simple fact is that having a neutral outpost at the main entrance-way to the North allows all sorts of riff-raff through.
D2 are simply moving to secure the doorway to their space (along with a lot of other peoples space).
Pfft. As if we just use that one system for entrance. The riff-raff are determined to pee in your cheerios. Holding EC-P8R won't do much to stop that.
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BlackDog Rackh'am
Minmatar
Maza Nostra
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.10 13:47:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Captain Rick****
Edited by: Captain Rick**** on 10/01/2007 11:47:28
Originally by: Dekiri
Originally by: Captain Rick****
Edited by: Captain Rick**** on 10/01/2007 11:35:31
Edited by: Captain Rick**** on 10/01/2007 11:35:20
Originally by: JForce
The simple fact is that having a neutral outpost at the main entrance-way to the North allows all sorts of riff-raff through.
D2 are simply moving to secure the doorway to their space (along with a lot of other peoples space).
And we at N.W.A support them 110%
That is so obvious, why people feel the need to ask why they took it i dont know. A good move that should have been made along time ago.
Ritchie.
While it is relativly obvious what they will try to do by "securing" that system, i honestly doubt they will achieve ANYTHING in regards to the pirate problems in EC-P.
That system and the surrounding systems will NEVER be secure and you will as in the past have varying entities camping the EC - Torrinos gate just like it always has been.
Unless of course D¦ decide that the system is worth all their resources 24/7(<-- not gonna happen).
Agree with that.
I think it's not so much about pirates as it is about hostile alliances. The you-know-who might be -10 to ISS now, but that could change in a heartbeat if they wanted to invade D2 territory. So, if they happened to negotiate positive standings with ISS they could stage an invasion force right on D2's doorstep without even having to take a system.
Even if they didn't do it that way, it would be easier to take the system from a purely industrial force like ISS than take it from a more combat oriented opponent.
The system might not be something to write home about, it might not even be strategically important (in the sense that there are other entries as well) and it surely isn't easy to police. But the presence of an outpost sitting on one of your entry points and belonging to a non-aligned faction is simply too much of a liability to let go. If there were just a gazillion ISS POS in EC i bet D2 wouldn't bother much, but a station adds importance to a system even if it's considered not to be worth the trouble otherwise.
I think it was a very good move on behalf on D2. Also, it's something that the rank and file of D2 supported since the time i was in D2 back in early summer (yes, that was shortly after the alliance's creation). Not only their leaders, but their members as well, viewed EC as a loose end that needed to be tied for months now.
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