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Cheyenne Shadowborn
Caldari
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:33:00 -
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For someone who has not the slightest clue why ISS EC-P8R is under new management (by D2) and who is getting podded the entire day in EC-P8R:
Can anyone explain to me in easy words and with as little cryptic abbreviations as possible whats going on, and what exactly ISS did to p*** off D2?
Thanks in advance.
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Rennard
Janissaries
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:35:00 -
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nice station we'll take it attitude...
...Not playing EvE at the moment, currently hibernating and forum whoring... |
Myz Toyou
the Organ Grinder and Company
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:35:00 -
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They stole Woodlouse cookie !
CYVOK > All you station jockies better get out their and start killing these idiots |
Cheyenne Shadowborn
Caldari
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Myz Toyou
They stole Woodlouse cookie !
I guess I might have saved the typing when I used the words "not cryptic"
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TZeer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: TZeer on 07/01/2007 18:34:56
Edited by: TZeer on 07/01/2007 18:34:45
I think D2, IAC +++ many more look at ISS as the black sheep
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire
The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Cheyenne Shadowborn
For someone who has not the slightest clue why ISS EC-P8R is under new management (by D2) and who is getting podded the entire day in EC-P8R:
Can anyone explain to me in easy words and with as little cryptic abbreviations as possible whats going on, and what exactly ISS did to p*** off D2?
Thanks in advance.
kk, easy words.....
D2 not like ISS
D2 go pew-pew on ISS
D2 now owns station.
Quote:
Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Cheyenne Shadowborn
For someone who has not the slightest clue why ISS EC-P8R is under new management (by D2) and who is getting podded the entire day in EC-P8R:
Can anyone explain to me in easy words and with as little cryptic abbreviations as possible whats going on, and what exactly ISS did to p*** off D2?
Thanks in advance.
A few months ago EC-P8R was the stronghold/shipyard of the TRUST alliance (an industrial alliance mainly concerned with producing ships and equipment and selling them).
Then they made the mistake of producing a Mothership and selling it the G alliance.
BoB accused TRUST of being the industrial arm of G (who they were at war with at that time) and subsequently both BoB and ASCN went in and pulverized TRUST. After that some corperations in TRUST joined G while others went back to Empire. TRUSTs station was handed, by BoB, to a "neutral party" (ISS). G collapsed/reformed shortly after that and some parts of G became Dusk and Dawn.
I can only assume that there are some ex-TRUST members in Dusk and Dawn and they want their station back now that both BoB and ISS are busy elsewhere.
Or it's just landgrabbing along the lines of "nice station, we'll take it".
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OIOIOIOIIIOII
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: OIOIOIOIIIOII on 07/01/2007 18:47:50
[ 2007.01.05 18:50:26 ] Rakk Ashari > Were attacking ISS? Sorry, cant go down with that. I own over a billion in shares.
[ 2007.01.05 18:50:35 ] Achtura > you should probably sell
[ 2007.01.05 18:50:35 ] Achtura > now
[ 2007.01.05 18:52:11 ] Rakk Ashari > Why the hell does everyone hate ISS?
[ 2007.01.05 18:52:18 ] AnotherFrigate > they're in the way.
[ 2007.01.05 18:53:11 ] Rakk Ashari > Of?
[ 2007.01.05 18:53:23 ] Achtura > does it matter what they're in the way of? |
Cheyenne Shadowborn
Caldari
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel
Originally by: Cheyenne Shadowborn
For someone who has not the slightest clue why ISS EC-P8R is under new management (by D2) and who is getting podded the entire day in EC-P8R:
Can anyone explain to me in easy words and with as little cryptic abbreviations as possible whats going on, and what exactly ISS did to p*** off D2?
Thanks in advance.
A few months ago EC-P8R was the stronghold/shipyard of the TRUST alliance (an industrial alliance mainly concerned with producing ships and equipment and selling them).
Then they made the mistake of producing a Mothership and selling it the G alliance.
BoB accused TRUST of being the industrial arm of G (who they were at war with at that time) and subsequently both BoB and ASCN went in and pulverized TRUST. After that some corperations in TRUST joined G while others went back to Empire. TRUSTs station was handed, by BoB, to a "neutral party" (ISS). G collapsed/reformed shortly after that and some parts of G became Dusk and Dawn.
I can only assume that there are some ex-TRUST members in Dusk and Dawn and they want their station back now that both BoB and ISS are busy elsewhere.
Or it's just landgrabbing along the lines of "nice station, we'll take it".
Thanks 
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Maltroc
Asgard Schiffswerften
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Cheyenne Shadowborn
A few months ago EC-P8R was the stronghold/shipyard of the TRUST alliance (an industrial alliance mainly concerned with producing ships and equipment and selling them).
Then they made the mistake of producing a Mothership and selling it the G alliance.
BoB accused TRUST of being the industrial arm of G (who they were at war with at that time) and subsequently both BoB and ASCN went in and pulverized TRUST. After that some corperations in TRUST joined G while others went back to Empire. TRUSTs station was handed, by BoB, to a "neutral party" (ISS). G collapsed/reformed shortly after that and some parts of G became Dusk and Dawn.
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Originally by: Cheyenne Shadowborn
I can only assume that there are some ex-TRUST members in Dusk and Dawn and they want their station back now that both BoB and ISS are busy elsewhere.
Or it's just landgrabbing along the lines of "nice station, we'll take it".
wrong
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Samirol
Turbulent
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:05:00 -
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d2 is just bandwagoning on the "Kill ISS" parade 
Tier 2 BS Lotto
Contact mach'ett3 for all your sig needs
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Rebel Militia
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Rebel Militia on 07/01/2007 19:07:18
I believe the meaning of the attack to be the rumoured "ice cream van" convoys which have been spotted in the area of EC-P8R which drop lots of hundreds and thousands of sprinkles to keep D2 happy as well as the occasional flake and cone.
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sdeer
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:35:00 -
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You also increase the morale of your own pvp corps. Trampling an opponent that cannot do much in return and stuffing killboards with their haulers moving out of territory keeps the troops happy. You know how certain people like to out-blob stuff and then feel victorious over it.
There was also a thread somewhere about it being part of grand D2 vs BoB plan in motion.
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ec p8r
EC-p8r's liberation frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:54:00 -
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As long as d2 pays the daily tritanium, they can have my system's outpost.
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Incase you did not know, EC-P8R is my system. |
Zhaine
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.07 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Maltroc
Originally by: Cheyenne Shadowborn
I can only assume that there are some ex-TRUST members in Dusk and Dawn and they want their station back now that both BoB and ISS are busy elsewhere.
Or it's just landgrabbing along the lines of "nice station, we'll take it".
wrong
What is "right" then? We're all dying to know 
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You thundering retard.
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JForce
N.W.A
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Posted - 2007.01.07 20:28:00 -
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The simple fact is that having a neutral outpost at the main entrance-way to the North allows all sorts of riff-raff through.
D2 are simply moving to secure the doorway to their space (along with a lot of other peoples space).
And we at N.W.A support them 110% |
Belid Hagen
The Graduates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.07 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: JForce
The simple fact is that having a neutral outpost at the main entrance-way to the North allows all sorts of riff-raff through.
D2 are simply moving to secure the doorway to their space (along with a lot of other peoples space).
And we at N.W.A support them 110%
D2 and their allies have been controlling EC-P8R just fine for months. actually owning the system/outpost will only save them on POS fuel, but give them higher management load.
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Appletwoc
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Posted - 2007.01.07 21:49:00 -
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Man, where does everyone find these PIP-Boy signatures? I like my fallout.
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D2O HeavyWater
Amarr
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.07 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: JForce
The simple fact is that having a neutral outpost at the main entrance-way to the North allows all sorts of riff-raff through.
D2 are simply moving to secure the doorway to their space (along with a lot of other peoples space).
And we at N.W.A support them 110%
I agree
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Laboratus
Gallente
BGG
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Posted - 2007.01.07 22:31:00 -
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AFAIK
(not being a member of either, so this is not second hand, but 31st hand info)
As was said above, EC station was previosly owned by trust and some of the trust corps joined D2. The common joke going around is that ISS is the industrial wing of BOB. This however is not true. ISS is in no way a unified faction.
ISS owns stations south that are kind of "under lease" from another alliance. Hence they have some responsibilities to the owners of the space there.
This lead to some ISS members giving intel on northern gangs roaming the area, making the relationships to take a turn for the worse. As such ISS was considered a liability and a risk to security. EC is a very important bottleneck system for the north, and as ISS has not been able to secure the system and remove pirates and as members of it have previosly given intel to the enemies of the north, letting them keep it would be at least risky. Not to mention the fact that it was not in any point in time heavily defended...
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UndergrounD
Caldari
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.07 22:36:00 -
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didnt the EC outpost originally belong to the predesssor of D2?
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Belid Hagen
The Graduates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.07 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Laboratus
AFAIK
(not being a member of either, so this is not second hand, but 31st hand info)
As was said above, EC station was previosly owned by trust and some of the trust corps joined D2. The common joke going around is that ISS is the industrial wing of BOB. This however is not true. ISS is in no way a unified faction.
ISS owns stations south that are kind of "under lease" from another alliance. Hence they have some responsibilities to the owners of the space there.
This lead to some ISS members giving intel on northern gangs roaming the area, making the relationships to take a turn for the worse. As such ISS was considered a liability and a risk to security. EC is a very important bottleneck system for the north, and as ISS has not been able to secure the system and remove pirates and as members of it have previosly given intel to the enemies of the north, letting them keep it would be at least risky. Not to mention the fact that it was not in any point in time heavily defended...
Dont belive everything you read on eve-o
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Gamesguy
Amarr
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.07 23:33:00 -
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We can dock in EC- now? Sweet!
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Petite Pierre
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.08 00:18:00 -
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I'm so renting a flat there :D
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.01.08 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: UndergrounD
didnt the EC outpost originally belong to the predesssor of D2?
TRUST built the outpost in EC-P8R as a neutral supply station for 0.0 dwellers. They also dabbled in capital ship construction, which BoB took notice of, and decided to eliminate, as G was a regular customer due to the close location of the two.
Following the EC-P8R siege, TRUST disbanded, G disbanded, and D2 was formed from a majority of corps from the two alliances.
Obviously, you can draw some parallels between BoB thinking at the time, that TRUST was a D2-aligned indy alliance, and now D2/AAA/IAC,etc. thinking, that ISS is aligned with BoB/MC/LV, etc. Whether any of these suspicions are true or not is up for debate, but that matters little to the agressors.
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Damn what happens to all those people whose self esteem doesnt depend on eve then?
Oh right, I'm asking in the wrong place
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Nitrogendixoide
The 5 Amigo's LLC.
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.08 03:47:00 -
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Do they actually own the station yet? 'cause it's name hasn't been changed yet.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.08 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nitrogendixoide
Do they actually own the station yet? 'cause it's name hasn't been changed yet.
The name changed many hours ago, I'm not sure on the time as I wasnt there.
By 20:00 eve time it was certainly showing as Emily's Revenge
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Vince Draken
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.08 04:02:00 -
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D2 decided to flex their mussles by declaring war on an already weakened industrial alliance that is busy fighting 50 jumps way on the other side of the cluster. I wonder if they managed this challenge by themselves or if they needed to bring the parade float with them.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |
Nitrogendixoide
The 5 Amigo's LLC.
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.08 04:03:00 -
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Hmm, it still showed as an ISS station in the market until I went and docked there. Oh well, my bad.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.08 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Vince Draken
D2 decided to flex their mussles by declaring war on an already weakened industrial alliance that is busy fighting 50 jumps way on the other side of the cluster. I wonder if they managed this challenge by themselves or if they needed to bring the parade float with them.
Even if they were not fighting elswhere...I seriously doubt the outcome would have been any different.
Accepted, there was little or no resistance. Our tactics were ruthless, we did not go there to provide honourable 1v1 pvp for small pirate corps or entertain the locals. We had a goal..it has been achieved.
I dont know why you feel the urge to knock everything that anyone else does.
You got your parade float out for killing a large afk ship, so let us enjoy our small success 
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