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DeadDuck Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.06 13:52:00 - [91] That would be the end of EVE. What makes this game a unique one is that everyone is playing in the same server. So my answer is NO.
Ishmael Hansen No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.02.06 14:04:00 - [92] This is like PMS, you don't like it, but once a month it comes poping on the forums.
Bilanto Gatejumper Caldari	Posted - 2007.02.06 14:36:00 - [93] Its truly fascinating to see how much of you seem to be against it becouse it would rock with the fact that someone else might compete on what you now can surf on. Originally by: Freaky Bare Try to see this from other points of view! If you had played for 3 years and every noob out there had the same skill you have - would you be happy? These guys have been loyal customers for 3 years! While I hope CCP values me as a 4 month customer I hardly expect them to throw the vets under the Hauler. I am not talking about leveling up in matter of minutes. I got no problem that it would take a lot of time and effort to catch up, but try to see it the other way. 3 year old players can be afk most of the time and still be 3 years a head even if I work my ass of to do my best. But I think we can close this discussion. It is obvious that most of the player base is scared to death that someone could actually start out on new on a fresh and untainted server. :) They would have no prestige or control over those players. Originally by: Freaky Bare Have you considered buying a character? Let's see, these guys have paid for 3 years @ say $12/mo that's $432. Take the $432 and buy GTC's. Trade the GTC's for ISK. Trade the ISK for a 3 year old character. This will take much less time than grinding an Orc to lvl 40. Problem solved! Never, and I never will. My char will be mine and my own to level. But this got nothing to do with price and for some reason orcs... (Assuming your talking about WoW? Right? But what does that got to do with it? In WoW you CAN grind up even if your 2 year late on a server. This problem dont exist there... (But they got plenty of others problems.))
Warrio	Posted - 2007.02.06 14:41:00 - [94] Implementing this abomination of an idea would kill eve. It's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the number of dogs you warp in with.
Valan	Posted - 2007.02.06 15:02:00 - [95] Edited by: Valan on 06/02/2007 14:58:24 Originally by: Bilanto Gatejumper Its truly fascinating to see how much of you seem to be against it becouse it would rock with the fact that someone else might compete on what you now can surf on. Originally by: Freaky Bare Try to see this from other points of view! If you had played for 3 years and every noob out there had the same skill you have - would you be happy? These guys have been loyal customers for 3 years! While I hope CCP values me as a 4 month customer I hardly expect them to throw the vets under the Hauler. I am not talking about leveling up in matter of minutes. I got no problem that it would take a lot of time and effort to catch up, but try to see it the other way. 3 year old players can be afk most of the time and still be 3 years a head even if I work my ass of to do my best. But I think we can close this discussion. It is obvious that most of the player base is scared to death that someone could actually start out on new on a fresh and untainted server. :) They would have no prestige or control over those players. Originally by: Freaky Bare Have you considered buying a character? Let's see, these guys have paid for 3 years @ say $12/mo that's $432. Take the $432 and buy GTC's. Trade the GTC's for ISK. Trade the ISK for a 3 year old character. This will take much less time than grinding an Orc to lvl 40. Problem solved! Never, and I never will. My char will be mine and my own to level. But this got nothing to do with price and for some reason orcs... (Assuming your talking about WoW? Right? But what does that got to do with it? In WoW you CAN grind up even if your 2 year late on a server. This problem dont exist there... (But they got plenty of others problems.)) I'm just short of 53 million skill points. Only a very small portion are not ship based or weapon based. I've been in two minor fleet ops recently with newer players following the orders of newer players. My vet status by no means puts me on a pedestal or means I know everything. the vets in our corp lose ships the same as everyone else, actually probably more than we should. I think its great that new and old players can compete in EVE, you can't in any other MMORPG. All your worried about is your eweener, you don't have as many SPs or ISK as someone else. If thats how you measure your success power to you. There are new players with more isk than me. I have no doubt in some situations I'll get splatted all over the nearest moon by a new player. I base my success on the relationships I've developed through the game. I'm not an individual I'm a cog, I'm a soldier in the ranks of many. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game three years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
Marc deBourgogne	Posted - 2007.02.06 16:23:00 - [96] No, but there can be 1 exception in the distant future : When EVE will be united in 1 global alliance we will connect our cluster to the WoW servers and conquer them one by one...
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.02.06 16:26:00 - [97] Originally by: Bilanto Gatejumper Its truly fascinating to see how much of you seem to be against it becouse it would rock with the fact that someone else might compete on what you now can surf on. Originally by: Freaky Bare Try to see this from other points of view! If you had played for 3 years and every noob out there had the same skill you have - would you be happy? These guys have been loyal customers for 3 years! While I hope CCP values me as a 4 month customer I hardly expect them to throw the vets under the Hauler. I am not talking about leveling up in matter of minutes. I got no problem that it would take a lot of time and effort to catch up, but try to see it the other way. 3 year old players can be afk most of the time and still be 3 years a head even if I work my ass of to do my best. But I think we can close this discussion. It is obvious that most of the player base is scared to death that someone could actually start out on new on a fresh and untainted server. :) They would have no prestige or control over those players. Originally by: Freaky Bare Have you considered buying a character? Let's see, these guys have paid for 3 years @ say $12/mo that's $432. Take the $432 and buy GTC's. Trade the GTC's for ISK. Trade the ISK for a 3 year old character. This will take much less time than grinding an Orc to lvl 40. Problem solved! Never, and I never will. My char will be mine and my own to level. But this got nothing to do with price and for some reason orcs... (Assuming your talking about WoW? Right? But what does that got to do with it? In WoW you CAN grind up even if your 2 year late on a server. This problem dont exist there... (But they got plenty of others problems.)) The attitude you point out, that of vets wanting to stay ahead of everyone else, is one you made up yourself. STFU ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
The Disruptor	Posted - 2007.02.06 16:32:00 - [98] A completely new one, no. But a portal to our old galaxy or another one might be a good idea. A new one opens up more space and the old galaxy would probably start a war with us.
Soporo	Posted - 2007.02.07 00:32:00 - [99] Edited by: Soporo on 07/02/2007 00:29:52 I personally don't give a rats ass whether someone can fly a better ship than me, or has more uber shield skills, or gunnery or whatever. My big issue is the gigantic alliances and huge corps, sucking up everything. The T2 Barons, most of which are in huge Alliances. The endless belts of nothing but secure cans. The chokes and camps, the fact that you really have to go deep to find a system that no one frequents much. Everything just seems crammed and overpopulated. The fact that you go to 0.0 with a corp and MUST join an Alliance or otherwise pay for you presense there. Otherwise, your gonna get mashed like a bug. The fact that everything is pretty much ESTABLISHED, or Taken or Owned or Controlled or Exploited or Farmed by groups impossible for a casual or new/aspiring corp to have much of any affect on whatever. So, yeah, new Server? Hell, a wormhole? Even just make TQ space 3 times larger... Sign me up. Even if it just takes a few months to get where TQ is, fine, a few months of bliss.
Einheriar Ulrich Minmatar FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.07 00:48:00 - [100] Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 07/02/2007 00:48:42 Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 07/02/2007 00:46:29 Originally by: Soporo Edited by: Soporo on 07/02/2007 00:29:52 I personally don't give a rats ass whether someone can fly a better ship than me, or has more uber shield skills, or gunnery or whatever. My big issue is the gigantic alliances and huge corps, sucking up everything. The T2 Barons, most of which are in huge Alliances. The endless belts of nothing but secure cans. The chokes and camps, the fact that you really have to go deep to find a system that no one frequents much. Everything just seems crammed and overpopulated. The fact that you go to 0.0 with a corp and MUST join an Alliance or otherwise pay for you presense there. Otherwise, your gonna get mashed like a bug. The fact that everything is pretty much ESTABLISHED, or Taken or Owned or Controlled or Exploited or Farmed by groups impossible for a casual or new/aspiring corp to have much of any affect on whatever. So, yeah, new Server? Hell, a wormhole? Even just make TQ space 3 times larger... Sign me up. Even if it just takes a few months to get where TQ is, fine, a few months of bliss. If you want space....go fight for it...its the way the game is meant to be. What you are complaining about, is other peoples succes in EVE....I tell you what, you dont have to be a T2 barone, to be uber rich if thats you desire, you dont have to suck high end roids, to get ahead As said before in this thread...0.0 is so sparsly populated, that if you want to move there do it...but be prepared to fight for your right to exist out there...if you smart, you will breake more than even. and pilots with tenacity and the will to fight, matters more than an uber blob. What i get out of your post is, I want to have all the same opportunities, as those successfull eve players, but i dont want to fight for it, i want access to 0.0 space, where no one bothers me. I have played this game since its release...I tell you what Empires, aand alliances dont last forever, they all die in the end, its the nature of EVE. have you ever considered, to carve your own way, to take your corp to the next level...if figthing is not for you, be a builder, a trader, a mission runner....But dont complain about those EVE players, who are playing the game as its supposed to be played. No one dictates you what to do in EVE, its all up to you, dont wanna join alliances, pay rent and still be out there in the frontier, you have to fight for it, are you prepared to do that
Soporo	Posted - 2007.02.07 01:28:00 - [101] Yeah, fight for it = blob up, join huge corpx in huge x x alliance etc etc. You missed my point. Even with exploration theres no exploration if you get my meaning. I dont mind fighting for what I want, but I would hope someday to do it in something other than / against aformentioned huge blobs/alliances etc. Currently, 0.0 = blob up and ally or die.
Einheriar Ulrich Minmatar FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.07 01:34:00 - [102] Originally by: Soporo Yeah, fight for it = blob up, join huge corpx in huge x x alliance etc etc. You missed my point. Even with exploration theres no exploration if you get my meaning. I dont mind fighting for what I want, but I would hope someday to do it in something other than / against aformentioned huge blobs/alliances etc. Currently, 0.0 = blob up and ally or die. I suggest you read my answer again...because you have clearly misunderstood everything i wrote. You dont have to blob to be successfull, you have to be smart. go explore, but be ready to fightin 0.0, nothing in EVE comes risk free.
Soporo	Posted - 2007.02.07 01:45:00 - [103] Quote: You dont have to blob to be successfull, you have to be smart.. You sure as hell do, if your gonna do it in 0.0, and if you want to hang there, anything other than ninja mining and ekeing out an existance at the sufference of the local alliance. My POINT (however badly put) was EVE TQ space has become too damned small. Big enough to have some empty systems, small enough so that the current Alliance population can controll it. In short, I would be amazingly happy merely to see 3 times the space made available, or a wormhole or whatever.
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.07 01:47:00 - [104] @ original poster : Yes. CCP thinks they can solve their lag problems though. Having us smile and shrug for over a year ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not.
Novemb3r The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.07 02:34:00 - [105] Originally by: Bilanto Gatejumper But I think we can close this discussion. It is obvious that most of the player base is scared to death that someone could actually start out on new on a fresh and untainted server. :) They would have no prestige or control over those players. You do realise that the people with "prestige" and "control" on this server have it not because of any in game skills don't you? You want power and prestige? Go and get it. You don't think ASCN built its empire and BoB got to be where they are (just to name 2 examples) because of any in game skills do you? http://benz0r.no-ip.org/sigs/rotate1.php *Please reduce the file size of your signature to be less than 24000 bytes -Cyrano
Admai Sket	Posted - 2007.02.07 02:39:00 - [106] How about two EVEs? This one, well developed with lots of people with lots of stuff, and a second eve, that can only be played if you have an account on this eve. The new eve would be empty and unexplored, and you'd start with nil-point SP wise, just as you did when you came naked and screaming into the first eve. Personally, I'd LOVE to see Eve from the point of view of a pioneer. I wish I had found eve when it was first created, and I think the nearest I could get to that is to have a new EVE game setup in parallel to this one. Then again, that's kinda what the test server is for, but in SiSi, your stuff would get wiped once in a while when the do that sync thing they do :-) I got my sig snipped again. Can someone make me a new one?
VulkanXx Minmatar Cryo Crypt inc. FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.07 04:17:00 - [107] I club seals.....
Eclipsen413 Gallente The Last Ravens	Posted - 2007.02.07 05:03:00 - [108] re-open the eve gate and let the protoss, terrans and zerg through! or just have the terrans with cool ships and weapons
Freaky Bare Minmatar Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.07 13:44:00 - [109] As I said before, my character is still young. I am telling you that I could turn a profit in 0.0 without having any help from a corp or alliance. It would be challenging - but doable. How? Sneak a T1 fitted BS into 0.0 and dissappear. Rat the out-of-the-way systems until you run out of ammo. Try to sneak out. You can easily fit a BS for 100-120 million (or less) and make back your investment in a couple days of ratting. Use an Alt to scout and you may not even need to lose the ship. NOTHING is impossible in this game if you work at it and think outside the box! I am not an Alt, I am ...really, really FUGLY!
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.02.07 14:11:00 - [110] Originally by: Freaky Bare As I said before, my character is still young. I am telling you that I could turn a profit in 0.0 without having any help from a corp or alliance. It would be challenging - but doable. How? Sneak a T1 fitted BS into 0.0 and dissappear. Rat the out-of-the-way systems until you run out of ammo. Try to sneak out. You can easily fit a BS for 100-120 million (or less) and make back your investment in a couple days of ratting. Use an Alt to scout and you may not even need to lose the ship. NOTHING is impossible in this game if you work at it and think outside the box! It's myths like this: Originally by: Soporo The fact that you go to 0.0 with a corp and MUST join an Alliance or otherwise pay for you presense there. Otherwise, your gonna get mashed like a bug. The fact that everything is pretty much ESTABLISHED, or Taken or Owned or Controlled or Exploited or Farmed by groups impossible for a casual or new/aspiring corp to have much of any affect on whatever. that let us do that kind of thing, so hope that the mass rabblers don't learn to play the game, or 0.0 really will fill up ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
Jacque Custeau Knights of the Minmatar Republic	Posted - 2007.02.07 14:40:00 - [111] Everything Einheriar Ulrich said is correct. I for one would never pay for 0.0 access and personally speaking, view it as a weakness. If you want to move to 0.0 you need to look at maps, load up your blockade runner and plan your move. There are several 0.0 regions with npc stations like Delve, Fountain, Curse, Venal, Stain...etc. Personally, having lived so long in Curse I would have to recommend it for people looking to explore and settle in 0.0 for a while. Its not as rich as fountain, but has so many "in's and out's", that if you know the area well, you will never get trapped. Its definitely going to be my EvE retirement home. Alternatively, people looking for 0.0 access could have joined the gold rush when kali hit and staked a claim in the new regions. The drones are very lucarative and people made billions upon billions off of them within the first few days that Kali went live. But then again that would have required reading the patch notes and knowing about the new regions, and then planning ahead. That is not everyone's strong suit, they just want to sit back and whine. They are so much better at it. ------------------- Looking for Amarr Mission Runner
Valan	Posted - 2007.02.07 14:47:00 - [112] People sit back and whine because they've paid a sub and expect things on a plate. Problem is EVE isn't like that, nothing is given you have to take it. It doesn't always have to be done at the point of a gun. EVE is like real life, you either make opportunities or sit on the dole and whine your poor. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game three years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
Kunming Outcasts	Posted - 2007.02.07 14:52:00 - [113] Originally by: Marc deBourgogne No, but there can be 1 exception in the distant future : When EVE will be united in 1 global alliance we will connect our cluster to the WoW servers and conquer them one by one... Hmm sounds like bombarding Caldari Prime all over again Quote: READ THIS NEXT PART CAREFULLY AS IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND POSTING A REPLY WITHOUT READING IT MAY RESULT IN YOU LOOKING STUPID.
Ashlii	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:28:00 - [114] I have 3 accounts, 2 of them are almost as old as the game itself and the last a year old. I'm not worried about starting over. I would love to be able to open up a Player (leased/rented) server from CCP to do my own story with others using it's game engine. I could see it being rented/leased at a cost based on max number of players served or database size needed. All the player accounts would have to be standard, CCP accounts, not trial accounts. CCP gets their money from it as well as the server rent. CCP would likely gain extra income from server rentals and additional players that would like to play in Multi-player realms that do not like or care for Massive Multi-Player. Just give me tools to construct missions, alter the Databases, and design star systems. 95% of the time I buy a game, it MUST have Modding capability. It is the biggest selling point of any game I look at. Ashlii
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:30:00 - [115] Originally by: Constantine Arcanum how would you tie that in with the storyline? That's easy, Bobby Ewing mode, we wake up one day and this was all a dream. Also Known As
Lance Hawke New Age Solutions	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:31:00 - [116] Didn't read any replies. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.
Sexy Schoolgirl	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:32:00 - [117] Originally by: Constantine Arcanum how would you tie that in with the storyline? There's a storyline?
Ashlii	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:39:00 - [118] Wrong, I read every single reply up to and including my post. Did you read that I have characters that are over 3 years old? The game, for me is getting way stale. That sounds like CCP may end up losing 3 accounts pretty soon. About the only way I can breath life in my interest in the game is to be allowed to create my own server/content and play with a select set of friends. PvP for me is a strong strong dislike. I just don't like it and I tend to ignore Player-characters who do. Heck, I have the power to do so being so old. Ashlii
Mayoz Miner	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:45:00 - [119] I used to think no but in light of recent events it might be good as one of the servers could be DEV free and the other one the DEV's could play to gain the info and experiance they need and then they could apply it to both servers. People would have a choice, a server without a DEV influencing player game play negatively and messing up bigtime. Like I said everything they learn on TQ could be applied to the new server aswell, no theres a concept that works.
banannagirl Minmatar The U-B-H-C	Posted - 2007.02.10 23:00:00 - [120] Originally by: Petrothian Tong Edited by: Petrothian Tong on 07/01/2007 19:28:57 I can see how they add in another galaxy that is tied in with this one..(just more regions?.. lol) "Oh look , the eve gate opened again!!!!" ahhhh EARTH IS INVADING NEW EDEN!!!!! Terran Invasion! lol that could be something after factional warfare (assuming one side got the upperhand) ..then to kinda reset the balance of power, the invasion plotline...then all of new eden's faction have to join together to fight the invasion.... lol but... yeah, not a new server though...(heck our eve world is made of many many servers..) But who is going to try to organise a retaliation against earth i wonder .. the large corp('s') .....! i can hear it now ... 'Hey folks you got to join us and play the game our way...!' says large corp one 'What even though we pay to play it Mr large Corp ..'replies small independant corp 'YES ...!' replies big corp one 'Cant we join the earth rebellion and get you out of the game someway ...' replies smaall corp 'YOUR ACCOUNT is banned ...' replies large corp memebrs in unison ..! regards BG Link removed, advertising services for real world money is not allowed on the forums - Wrangler

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