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Giantmoth
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:46:00 -
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What's everyones opinion on the idea that CCP would open up a completly new server, an unexploited galaxy. It could come in the form of an expansion, opening up a new world for EVE, and giving everyone a chance to start over again. Perhaps even skill training would be performed faster, or at least a little, to encourage people to start playing there. And also, if you could train both characters on the same account, at the same time, so you can have two 'main' characters on both.
This has probably been discussed before, but let's hear some fresh opinions. Could it work? Would EVE have a potentially big playerbase for it? If released as the form of a new expansion on the market, more players might be brought in the process.
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John Leitch
Gallente
Elite Storm Enterprises
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:48:00 -
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no
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Constantine Arcanum
Gallente
IMPERIAL SENATE
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:49:00 -
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how would you tie that in with the storyline?
I helped - Cortes
What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir
Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus
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Soulita
Gallente
Inner Core
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:49:00 -
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Yea, this idea comes up on the forums every once in a while.
It is a real bad idea, sorry. One of the great things about EVE is that everyone lives in the same universe. Multiple servers would destroy the EVE spirit.
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Giantmoth
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:51:00 -
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Hmm, although, what if the other universe ran on another storyline? There are a lot of people that does not take overly much attention to the storyline, the "spirit" of the universe if you will have it. Never had much encounter with it in game to be honest.
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Soulita
Gallente
Inner Core
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Posted - 2007.01.07 18:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Giantmoth
Hmm, although, what if the other universe ran on another storyline? There are a lot of people that does not take overly much attention to the storyline, the "spirit" of the universe if you will have it. Never had much encounter with it in game to be honest.
Forget it man. Bad idea, honestly. Check the forums for old threads discussing this idea.
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Constantine Arcanum
Gallente
IMPERIAL SENATE
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Giantmoth
Hmm, although, what if the other universe ran on another storyline? There are a lot of people that does not take overly much attention to the storyline, the "spirit" of the universe if you will have it. Never had much encounter with it in game to be honest.
It would be interesting to see how another different universe would pan out, but it won't happen.
I helped - Cortes
What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir
Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus
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CrayC
Gallente
CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Constantine Arcanum
It would be interesting to see how another different universe would pan out, but it won't happen.
Take a look at the Chinese server. They have done almost exactly what TQ have experienced, just at an accelerated rate, because most people know what to do.
Another universe would very quickly end up just like TQ and Serenity are now...
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xxWhistler
Elite United Corp
Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:26:00 -
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The reason that wouldn't work out is that most people would just start training a char on the new server but never play it until they could start using t2 toys and such.
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Petrothian Tong
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Petrothian Tong on 07/01/2007 19:28:57
I can see how they add in another galaxy that is tied in with this one..(just more regions?.. lol)
"Oh look , the eve gate opened again!!!!"
ahhhh EARTH IS INVADING NEW EDEN!!!!!
Terran Invasion! lol
that could be something after factional warfare (assuming one side got the upperhand) ..then to kinda reset the balance of power, the invasion plotline...then all of new eden's faction have to join together to fight the invasion....
lol
but... yeah, not a new server though...(heck our eve world is made of many many servers..)
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Verone
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Constantine Arcanum
It would be interesting to see how another different universe would pan out, but it won't happen.
Tbh, it should never happen.
A single universe, single shard, where everyone interacts with eachother and shares the same game environment's resources is the fundamental concept of Eve.
Strating from it would destroy everything that Eve has become.
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freddy bloggs
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:37:00 -
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no thankd
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:45:00 -
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If they released another server cluster and didn't allow you to transfer accounts, I'd agree.
Eve 2.0 new server, new accounts, the whole deal...
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Yankee Uprising
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:47:00 -
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Some friends and I were actually talking about this a couple weeks ago. My idea was not an entirely new server, but maybe a new wormhole opening up somewhere. Maybe it couldd appear in, say, Jita, with catastrophic consequences of biblical proportions. BOOM! And make it a little wormhole, so only frigate-sized craft can get through it. And presto - a whole new galaxy, still no sharding, Jita-lag eliminated, and it will take at least a little time before the POS's start sprouting up like mushrooms.
The main benefit would be space. Let's face it... 0.0 is effectively spoken for and that includes the new regions. It was only a day or two before the new regions were choke-camped. A place where newer corps and the smaller alliances could actually get into and stake their claim. I am not knocking the big alliances we have now - territory must be protected. We can all agree on that, but if CCP wants to keep expanding the player base, there has to be somewhere to let them go.
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Sovy Kurosei
Amarr
Therianthropic Technologies
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Posted - 2007.01.07 20:25:00 -
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A second server wouldn't be too bad if CCP fixed some of the problems found on Tranquility, like alts, the T2 BPO distribution, a few other things that aren't on the top of my head. Otherwise there isn't any point I think. It would suck to have to train up capital ship skills again while deathstar starbases are put up left, right and centre.
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Tanis Bastar
Caldari
Interstitial Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.01.07 20:38:00 -
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I am generally against this idea, but have been wondering what will happen if the current Empire space becomes too crowded to be viable? I know that many parts of Empire are currently sparsely populated, but given expansion rates is there a point at which it becomes too crowded for current resources?
Not enough roids? Not enough offices? Not enough labs (doh!)? Not enough...? I guess ultimately it will be feasible to simply increase whatever resource is running short, other than perhaps Empire space itself.
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Ta chaina
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Posted - 2007.01.07 22:41:00 -
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I think its a good idea but I would tie it to this one with a wormhole. In this way you could jump for a price back and forth.
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Callisto Augustus
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.01.07 22:58:00 -
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The wormhole idea is very flawed.
Can you imagine opening the wormhole in Jita (or any other system for that matter) on the first day?
30,000 pilots trying to get into Jita...
If this idea would ever work, you should put one wormhole in each of the the 4 different race regions.
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2007.01.07 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Gone''Postal on 07/01/2007 23:21:27
Edited by: Gone''Postal on 07/01/2007 23:16:11
not at all
News at 10: with Gone'Postal
Eve podders rejoice today as a Wormhole was found.
However Conkord basic testing has showed that our subspace thrusters cause the wormhole to become unstable with each ship in close range to it, Conkord has contained the system and is allowing ships into the sector in limited ammounts. More testing on the wormhole is to be confirmed.
Skip ahead 2 months (ingame time)
CHAOS IN SPACE.
100's of Podders were stranded today as the wormhole callapsed, the wormhole became unstable after a pirate faction tried to gain control of the Conkord control center for limiting the ammout of ships in the system.
90% of the testing on the warmhole was completed and a detailed report to the four race's committes is due shortly.
Skip ahead some time
REJOICE!
The data collected on the wormhole has givin rise to another era in subspace travel... The data collected will allow each race to create wormhole's using existing jumpdrive technology. each of the four races is said to be building the massive stations needed to power the subspace gate's to rescue the stranded brothers.
On a side note, caldari is said to have theres built and is already setting up lvl4 agents within the new systems, raven production has doubled and demand for missiles is draining supplies.
Something like that ??
Forgive the really bad grammer and spelling i was doing it fast.
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Ozzie Asrail
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.07 23:31:00 -
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Never ever at all.
The best thing about eve is it's all on one shard, splitting it will simply kill the game.
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Gudrun Hart
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Posted - 2007.01.08 00:01:00 -
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no, i dont like the idea of another, seperate EvE Universe. But i would like to see a realy larger EvE universe. Min 3 times as big as it is now, with some good design in routes and a good mix of save and low sec systems.
I would like to have a capital refining ship class :-)
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RtoZ
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Posted - 2007.01.08 00:13:00 -
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No. Use the time it takes to make a thing like that to fix the universe we allready inhabit.
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Ingle Sco
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Posted - 2007.01.08 22:59:00 -
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If u want to split something then let the new regions be isolated again.
Lets see how the corps / Alliances deveolp those regions over the next 6 - 9 months, maybe even with a little help from the jove
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AlleyKat
Gallente
The Avalon Foundation
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Posted - 2007.01.08 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Yankee Uprising
Some friends and I were actually talking about this a couple weeks ago. My idea was not an entirely new server, but maybe a new wormhole opening up somewhere. Maybe it couldd appear in, say, Jita, with catastrophic consequences of biblical proportions. BOOM! And make it a little wormhole, so only frigate-sized craft can get through it. And presto - a whole new galaxy, still no sharding, Jita-lag eliminated
One question - in this new galaxy, how would there be any jump gates, if only frigates could get through? Your idea means we have a wormwhole to 1 system.
The alliances in 0.0 have fought hard for their regions, and 2007 will see the rise of new alliances and the fall of old ones, just as 2006 did.
Your idea seems to stem from a belief that one pilot, one corp or one alliance cannot make a difference - but EvE's history contradicts you.
This is the only MMO where you can really make a difference. Please, don't seek to change that - you have imagination, use it.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2007.01.08 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Giantmoth
This has probably been discussed before, but let's hear some fresh opinions. Could it work?
Yes, this have been discussed so many times. Most likely is it the most discussed of all the horse beaten topics on EVE forums. There is really nothing more to say about this topic then again ..
NO!!
Not yesterday
Not today
Not tomorrow
Ever
Amen
ALso, a wish for the new year is that people to check the forums for existing posts on the topic before posting. I see at least 2 posts a week about this topic, and I get sick of it tbh.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.08 23:46:00 -
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Nice Galaxy I'll Take it 
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Detavi Kade
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:00:00 -
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Eve is special due to its one shard implementation. Go down the OP route, and no matter how many hypothetical subscribers you get, EVE loses that bit of uniqueness.
I hope it never happens.
Originally by: oveur
EVE is primarily a PVP game
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Elmicker
Unscoped
Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:02:00 -
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It'd be nice, until someone camps the gate between them.
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Znix
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:07:00 -
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What they could do is this have multiple galaxies on different Shards but make the accessible to eachother via a wormhole....
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Nm'Me
Amarr
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:08:00 -
[30]
I hope it'll never happen. Would ruin alot of the game for me.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:19:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Znix
What they could do is this have multiple galaxies on different Shards but make the accessible to eachother via a wormhole....
In which case it'd be exactly the same as if it were in the same galaxy- except for the fact that all traffic between them would be forced through a single bottleneck.
Big big no. Expand the current EVE universe, not make a second separate one.
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Syirius Zay
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:31:00 -
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ZOMG this would be absolutely amazing!!!!!!!
As long as every system was 0.0 and I could bubble camp the in gate to the new sever with a fleet and shoot every eejit that thought this was a good idea and tried to jump through.
Seriously though, this idea is brought up week after week, and it gets shot down in flames every time. No serious player really wants it; as the whole point of eve is that history is made and written as corps and alliances grow and take each others territory.
Though you obviously feel unable to take part in the current history atm, give it time and try. Things arent over populated or already taken, the political landscape changes all the time.
And regarding the two Chars training at the same time, sorry, but this would just lead to everyone having an alt that did the boring stuff their main couldnt. Diminishing the need for friends & allies.
Instead I say swap it down to only allowing one char per account at all.
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Cairhien
Minmatar
Acme Technologies Incorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:56:00 -
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The worm hole has some merit. What if the worm hole was not static. It would only last a couple hours or less then vanish, to show up again in some other random system and only luck to find it.
On the other side was a Earth or Jove system or region. If you were lucky enough to find it and get through you could trade mods for what they had for mods. Isk would be worthless there.
You would not want to waste time, not knowing where in EVE you would come back out of the worm hole. Would suck to jump into a pirate controlled system in deep 0.0. with a load of good stuff.
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ollobrains
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.09 01:04:00 -
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dumb idea - newly discovered 0.0 space as the game requires expansion ( jove expansion this year or next is still a tentative date) will open up more space. CCP just adds more space as it needs to anyway
All posts made by myself represent my personal opinion only - they do not represent the rest of the privateer alliacne unless they decide to agree with what im saying
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Tarkan Kador
Amarr
PanTarkan Kador Holdings
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Posted - 2007.01.09 04:03:00 -
[35]
For me, the "one server" concept isn't anything that keeps me in EVE. Its more like something I put up with to play EVE.
I think its that way for a lot of players, which is exactly why CCP won't do it. Heck, if I was here at launch and had as much time/SP/ISK over the new people, I wouldn't want another server either. Just like if I was in a ponzi scheme, I wouldn't want people subsequent to me paying their share to get on my tier.
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Visago
Gallente
Temasek Holdings
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Posted - 2007.01.09 04:19:00 -
[36]
no. never.
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Dargnon Nazgarial
Star Kingdom of Manticore
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 04:47:00 -
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Iam not a very experienced EVE player, but iam experienced MMO player. EVE is very unique MMO and i believe the launch of 2nd server might do a very big damage to it. Its pretty much about being "all on one server". Its one universe, one game. Sci fi world, where things happen. Thats not possible in games with dozens of servers.
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Maximillian Pele
Caldari
Jewel Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.01.09 05:13:00 -
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I suspect that the only thing that would prompt CCP to create a second EvE is the time factor.
EvE is unique not just in the one shard concept (debatable with Serenity) but in the fact that time in game and not grinding gives you SP.
While it is true that new players can catch up to a degree by specialising in distinct areas, it will eventually become harder to attract new players if this peceived SP gap becomes an issue.
CCP has already realised this and has taken two steps to reduce the gap: learning skills and now 800,000 SP characters at creation.
Another issue is the sale/transfer of veteran characters: which keeps many "multi-year" characters in the game long after their original owners have left rather than seeing them being removed over the years.
I suspect that CCP will struggle with this issue and it will get worse over time.
But, as many have explained far better than I can, a second EvE would destroy a large part of EvE's uniqueness.
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Sgt Blade
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.09 07:21:00 -
[39]
no thanks  although more space on diff map? not a diff server mind you jsut that is 'another universe' but thats as far as it should go.
hmm yes mabey eve gate opens 
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James Duar
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2007.01.09 07:54:00 -
[40]
The only reason this idea ever comes up is for that idea that somehow the people who aren't the big players now would rush out and be able to take everything over. Which you wouldn't and for whatever reason you've decided there are apparently insurmountable obstacles to doing that now (I'm going to go with, you refuse to join large corps or alliances because you wouldn't be leading them).
I started a year ago and have been playing about 8 months of that time (took a break). I think this is stupid idea since the universe would be boring as hell with none of the big toys hanging around.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.09 08:24:00 -
[41]
No.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
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Doc Extropy
Gallente
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.01.09 08:52:00 -
[42]
Open the Eve - Gate, make passage through Amarr - territories a trip independent of standings towards the empire* and then:
1. New galaxy with small empire core, maybe two rather small factions (Caldari size) providing empire stuff of all kind
2. One way trip - once you are there, there is now way back again
* how this could work:
Assuming that most players in factional warfare will work against the Amarr (they are the race the least people choose and by logic have the least efficient society, also they have the most rp enemies), the Amarr empire will crumble and left in anarchy and starvation. Therefore: not enough military strength to keep negative standing people out and a free ride it is.
Would also add to the storyline a lot.
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Za Po
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.09 10:23:00 -
[43]
I'm beginning to think that we need a sticky titled "Ideas that have been discussed to death multiple times, please don't repost".
It could include sharding, seeding T2 BPOs, logoffski complains, reduction in training times and gatecamp complains. For a starter.
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Anew Incarnate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 11:38:00 -
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I like the idea of a new area, but not a new server.
The game should be one fluid system and or region where all players can go without having to log into another area.
Opening a gate to another area is just a matter of adding to the map. Some new gate in 0.0 area! Preferably on the fringe of the galaxy leading to a whole new system of 1.0 -0.0 space.
Then again, at least 85% of the current map is not being used as its 0.4 - 0.0 space! Any check of: ôNumber of Pilots in Systemö will confirm this fact.
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JadeO
Caldari
W.A.S.P
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Posted - 2007.01.09 11:44:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Soulita
Yea, this idea comes up on the forums every once in a while.
It is a real bad idea, sorry. One of the great things about EVE is that everyone lives in the same universe. Multiple servers would destroy the EVE spirit.
It's also one of the 'unique' characteristics of EVE. I mean, out of all MMORPGs out there, how many of them manage to get over 35,000 players online in the same server?
Personally i like it this way, this is exactly what a MMORPG stands for: thousands of players playing the game together!
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Rufless
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Posted - 2007.01.09 11:50:00 -
[46]
If I were to hazard a guess, most newer and younger players would leave Tranquility and move to the new server as the best opportunities to take parts of space and create alliances would be there. There would be no kings to topple like there currently are in Tranquility.
But what this would leave is the current kings with no one to rule over.
If the two servers were somehow connected then the most powerful curent aliances would take control over the new areas.
Seperate servers would lead to mass migration of younger players and connected servers would lead to expansionism by current powerbases.
So I don't think it would work either...
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Caius LiviusCerso
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Posted - 2007.01.09 12:07:00 -
[47]
Why dont we get invaded by destroying aliens who burn through Gallente federation and any opposition looks like ****?
All mighty ships blowing planets, man eating bugs etc.
That would stirr the **** for some time.
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Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2007.01.09 12:24:00 -
[48]
could open a thousand new systems inside the same galaxy
many of the systems are out of the stargate array
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Nina Kabrinski
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Posted - 2007.01.09 12:24:00 -
[49]
just try to imagine how many people would be left on the "old" server if a new one was started... what'd happen to current alliances, corporations and to the whole economy.
I'm 100% sure CCP knows a second server means killing eve as we all know it.
I miss the days when you met 5 or maybe 10 people while flying through the galaxy for one hour, but hey...I can go to 0.0 now and find a similar situation there. People just need to leave empire space if they feel the server is "overpopulated". Sure, from time to time there is a need of new space, but didnt CCP just give us a nice new little playground with the last patch?
just my 2 euro-cents :)
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Sorela
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.09 12:28:00 -
[50]
Oh please I need a shovel for all the BS in here.
Giantmoth what nobody is telling you is that they really do not want a new server because EVE is built on the principle that veterans have an edge over lesser vet players no matter what. This principle is at the very core of EvE.
A new server would give a large portion of the player base a place to go and equalize things in their eyes. The way skill training works would allow them to play both servers at the same time afterall. To be fair this would eventually lead to not many people playing on Tranquility anymore at all.
So it's not feasible and personally I'd rather see them fix the skill system. Since their current user base though prefers things this way it's fairly risky for them to fix it.
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Wotar
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Posted - 2007.01.09 13:01:00 -
[51]
I agree, sharding is what this game needs!
Also, lets get rid of all non-consensual pvp, make all items NPC-sold and introduce some kind of 'battleground' for pvp battles where we can acquire 'honour' of some sort, without all that nasty business of losing ships.
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Za Po
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.09 13:27:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Caius LiviusCerso
Why dont we get invaded by destroying aliens who burn through Gallente federation and any opposition looks like ****?
Wrong genre. Hmm, yeah, I'd also add "aliens" to a much-needed "discussed to death, please don't even bother" sticky. Originally by: Sorela
Giantmoth what nobody is telling you is that they really do not want a new server because EVE is built on the principle that veterans have an edge over lesser vet players no matter what. This principle is at the very core of EvE.
Oh, and "wahh wahh skill gap" too. A vet cannot use all of his skills at the same time, because they'll be in different areas, because each area only has so many skills available. You could as well complain because a 2 years player of Everquest has three level 70 characters, you only have one, and you feel this is the reason for which he always kills you. If you need a more detailed explanation of why a new player can catch up to a veteran if he's good at the game - don't bother asking me. There are a gazillion threads where this is thoroughly explained already.
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d026
Herrscher der Zeit Jagdgeschwader
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2007.01.09 13:33:00 -
[53]
Edited by: d026 on 09/01/2007 13:30:31
Quote:
It is a real bad idea, sorry. One of the great things about EVE is that everyone lives in the same universe. Multiple servers would destroy the EVE spirit.
what an invalid argument. there is already a 2nd "shard" and how does it affect you while playing? NOT AT ALL;)
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Mesacc
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.09 15:05:00 -
[54]
I think a new galaxy would be awsome! For the story line, maybee the worm hole re-opens and we can travel back to where we came from, see whats left of earth, learn how earth and its technology evolved over the years. Would ve very interesting!
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Koori
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.09 15:38:00 -
[55]
This idea usually comes from WoW players that are annoyed because of their inability to be instantly uber in EVE. (No offence, I'm not trying to insult WoW players. I'm playing WoW sometimes too)
Every now and then Blizzard is opening new realms for WoW. After each opening power levelers jump into serwer and are starting to grind everything to become "The best character/guild on the server". That makes them uber and their e-peen is enlarged.
As I understand some of those people are thinking that they can become "the best characters on server" in EVE too by starting new cluster. Anyone who knows anything about EVE knows that it's not true. But we will still have to deal with those threads few times in a month.
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Doc Extropy
Gallente
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.01.09 16:02:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Mesacc
I think a new galaxy would be awsome! For the story line, maybee the worm hole re-opens and we can travel back to where we came from, see whats left of earth, learn how earth and its technology evolved over the years. Would ve very interesting!
Possible story:
The Jove always held the key to that wormhole and after the evil Amarr empire is defeated in the faction wars, the Jove see that the galaxy has reached a level of morality and humanism that makes them worthy enough to travel to other places, lets start with the remnands of planet Earth.
T3 could come from there, maybe it should be hard to accomplish anything in the milky way galaxy, but the rewards should be enormous as well.
And no, I don't mean "omgz0r!!!1 200 new agents for teh lottery!!", CCP. 
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Bilanto Gatejumper
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.05 12:11:00 -
[57]
This thread was not to old. ;-)
I would have loved the idea of a new server IF and only IF noone could have moved there character over from the old one.
The problem the way I see it is that I have NO chance of grinding to catch up with the "older players" and therefore would have loved a new server where I could have started out equal with others.
If thos happened I would have jumped the second it happend.
And for those speaking of "Spirit of tranq": You will have it even if this happend. Its not like all your friends would have been gone. The most I have seen of this so called spirit is a lot of "older players" who is bulling me...
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.05 12:20:00 -
[58]
I used to be against this, but on the other hand, a chance to play Eve without having to fight the 'Band of Developers' perhaps isn't such a bad idea.
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Wild Rho
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.02.05 12:21:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Wild Rho on 05/02/2007 12:19:11
Originally by: d026
Edited by: d026 on 09/01/2007 13:30:31
Quote:
It is a real bad idea, sorry. One of the great things about EVE is that everyone lives in the same universe. Multiple servers would destroy the EVE spirit.
what an invalid argument. there is already a 2nd "shard" and how does it affect you while playing? NOT AT ALL;)
You're failing to include the fact that this second shard is closed to 99% of the people on TQ (basically anyone outside China) and so for all intents and purposes does not exist except in name.
This is a big difference between that and a fully accessible second shard seperate from TQ.
The China cluster exists more due to political/legal issues in realtion to MMOs in China than any other factor.
A true second shard of Eve would bring nothing to the game but take plenty away.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it.
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Topaz Skydiver
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Posted - 2007.02.05 12:35:00 -
[60]
Originally by: d026
Edited by: d026 on 09/01/2007 13:30:31
Quote:
It is a real bad idea, sorry. One of the great things about EVE is that everyone lives in the same universe. Multiple servers would destroy the EVE spirit.
what an invalid argument. there is already a 2nd "shard" and how does it affect you while playing? NOT AT ALL;)
The chinese cluster is not competing with Tranquility. It has a seperate 'regional' community. Tranquility is where the 'world' meets.
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Bilanto Gatejumper
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.05 12:42:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Bilanto Gatejumper on 05/02/2007 12:38:51
Originally by: Topaz Skydiver
The chinese cluster is not competing with Tranquility. It has a separate 'regional' community. Tranquility is where the 'world' meets.
True, and I think the reason most people would like to have a new server (me included) is a chance to play equal with all the vets in the long run. (Given other games who is not timedriven on the skills you can grind your self to max skill and join in friends on equal basis even if the server is 2-3 years old)
When I say that I also need to mention that I love the way the skills are leveled in EVE, but as a REALY late starter I would like to have a chance to gain up to a level of others if I really put my mind to it. How? I dont know, but thats why I think of a new server. Where a lot would have started on scratch. Perhaps a EVE 2? (Complete new game....)
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.05 13:02:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Bilanto Gatejumper
Edited by: Bilanto Gatejumper on 05/02/2007 12:38:51
Originally by: Topaz Skydiver
The chinese cluster is not competing with Tranquility. It has a separate 'regional' community. Tranquility is where the 'world' meets.
True, and I think the reason most people would like to have a new server (me included) is a chance to play equal with all the vets in the long run. (Given other games who is not timedriven on the skills you can grind your self to max skill and join in friends on equal basis even if the server is 2-3 years old)
When I say that I also need to mention that I love the way the skills are leveled in EVE, but as a REALY late starter I would like to have a chance to gain up to a level of others if I really put my mind to it. How? I dont know, but thats why I think of a new server. Where a lot would have started on scratch. Perhaps a EVE 2? (Complete new game....)
What limited gameplay EVE would have if everyone was close to the same age. EVE has players old and young, new characters being created every day, old ones retiring from the game. In this, as in so many things, EVE imitates life, and yet people want to change it.
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Kruugore
Minmatar
Vigilant Justice
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Posted - 2007.02.05 13:02:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Giantmoth
What's everyones opinion on the idea that CCP would open up a completly new server, an unexploited galaxy. It could come in the form of an expansion, opening up a new world for EVE, and giving everyone a chance to start over again. Perhaps even skill training would be performed faster, or at least a little, to encourage people to start playing there. And also, if you could train both characters on the same account, at the same time, so you can have two 'main' characters on both.
This has probably been discussed before, but let's hear some fresh opinions. Could it work? Would EVE have a potentially big playerbase for it? If released as the form of a new expansion on the market, more players might be brought in the process.
The only way I'd agree with that is if there was a way to get between galaxies. Like scouting and exploration for 'wormholes'.
Mr. K
VIGILANT JUSTICE
CEO/FOUNDER |
James Duar
Merch Industrial
We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.02.05 13:08:00 -
[64]
This idea sucks, and has always sucked.
Keen fact: the vets can just fly MORE ships better then you. They can't fly any one ship better then you. This is because skills max out at lvl 5.
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Lesi
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Posted - 2007.02.05 13:12:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Kruugore
The only way I'd agree with that is if there was a way to get between galaxies. Like scouting and exploration for 'wormholes'.
You dont have to agree. You can stay in the old galaxy. Just let all us others dont have to have 3 year old accounts bulling us. :)
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Einheriar Ulrich
Minmatar
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.05 13:15:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 05/02/2007 13:14:51
Originally by: Sorela
Oh please I need a shovel for all the BS in here.
Giantmoth what nobody is telling you is that they really do not want a new server because EVE is built on the principle that veterans have an edge over lesser vet players no matter what. This principle is at the very core of EvE.
A new server would give a large portion of the player base a place to go and equalize things in their eyes. The way skill training works would allow them to play both servers at the same time afterall. To be fair this would eventually lead to not many people playing on Tranquility anymore at all.
So it's not feasible and personally I'd rather see them fix the skill system. Since their current user base though prefers things this way it's fairly risky for them to fix it.
What is wrong with the skill system ?........That you have to learn the skills in order to use items, or that players who have played this game since the start allready have learned the skills and know how EVE works.
It seems to me you want the cake and eat it to..please...use the ingame mechanic to train your char.....implants and so on. Belive me, i have meet players with 40 mio of skillspoints, and they still dont know how to utilize them.
A new galaxy ? a new server...dont see it happen, it will destroy EVE...its unique feeling, its history...and the fact that a community can field 35000 players in one single world 24/7.
Those who say, their is no room, for those group, alliances, who which to carve a space for themselves, either dont get this game or dont know what they are talking about.
Goto 0.0 space fly around, and check for yourself....most alliance claimed space is very very sparsly populated, if its even populated at all...there are hubs, and core systems....but nothing in EVE comes without a risk..if you want something...go fight for it.
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Kruugore
Minmatar
Vigilant Justice
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Posted - 2007.02.05 13:34:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Kruugore on 05/02/2007 13:30:44
Originally by: Lesi
Originally by: Kruugore
The only way I'd agree with that is if there was a way to get between galaxies. Like scouting and exploration for 'wormholes'.
You dont have to agree. You can stay in the old galaxy. Just let all us others dont have to have 3 year old accounts bulling us. :)
Firstly, that goes against CCP's marketed image and claim of an 'unsharded' universe.
That's the beauty of eve. Someone in a Battleship only has the battleship skills apply. They could have WTFPWNAGE FRIGATE FLYING LEVEL 10. But they aren't flying a frigate, assault ship, covert ops, or even a HAC... They are flying a battleship.
You should be advocating the removal of T2, since that is the true enemy of new people. The training required to become effective and the bonus it provides over T1 is stupid IMO. T2 will always beat T1 in a fight... Unless T1 outnumbers the T2 group.
Mr. K
VIGILANT JUSTICE
CEO/FOUNDER |
Ediz Daxx
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.05 13:38:00 -
[68]
Originally by: John Leitch
no
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.05 13:45:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Kruugore
That's the beauty of eve. Someone in a Battleship only has the battleship skills apply. They could have WTFPWNAGE FRIGATE FLYING LEVEL 10. But they aren't flying a frigate, assault ship, covert ops, or even a HAC... They are flying a battleship.
You should be advocating the removal of T2, since that is the true enemy of new people. The training required to become effective and the bonus it provides over T1 is stupid IMO. T2 will always beat T1 in a fight... Unless T1 outnumbers the T2 group.
This man speaks the TruthÖ.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.05 13:50:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Kruugore
Edited by: Kruugore on 05/02/2007 13:30:44
Originally by: Lesi
Originally by: Kruugore
The only way I'd agree with that is if there was a way to get between galaxies. Like scouting and exploration for 'wormholes'.
You dont have to agree. You can stay in the old galaxy. Just let all us others dont have to have 3 year old accounts bulling us. :)
Firstly, that goes against CCP's marketed image and claim of an 'unsharded' universe.
That's the beauty of eve. Someone in a Battleship only has the battleship skills apply. They could have WTFPWNAGE FRIGATE FLYING LEVEL 10. But they aren't flying a frigate, assault ship, covert ops, or even a HAC... They are flying a battleship.
You should be advocating the removal of T2, since that is the true enemy of new people. The training required to become effective and the bonus it provides over T1 is stupid IMO. T2 will always beat T1 in a fight... Unless T1 outnumbers the T2 group.
Except that new players have a snowballs chance in hell to get into the Dev sponsored alliance. Thats reserved for veterans I guess.
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Lyn30101
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Posted - 2007.02.05 14:23:00 -
[71]
if every alliance who currently holds space here could not go there.... I'd be all over that ****.
To the guy said that one person can make a difference in EVE, yeah, if he flys a cap ship sure he can. |
Cyrano Tyranus
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Posted - 2007.02.05 14:40:00 -
[72]
Lets have a new Galaxy connected by a wormhole. (This could be in 0.0 space) Then the powerful empires can stretch out and expand into this area like the old north american land races. Can you imagine the Fleets of industrial ships flying through? The escort fleets escorting them. The POS being towed behind them! What a sight it would be. Oh then we would see the gate campers and Pirates (Yarr ) desend upon them. And see if the gate campers fight against the overwhelming odds or leave them be,... The Amount of Carebears (me) also wanting to go through this wormhole would be astounding! This would resolve the issue about no people in low sec as alot will want to go throught the Wormhole to the land of unknown riches. Then the gate gankers can have a steady stream of targets.
Until they kill an Empire's Alt and then they may indeed get ganked themselves.
The System that contains the wormhole on tranquillity End will become the most coverted system. Imagine the uses of such a system. The Rite of passage costs.. For going in.. and indeed comming out.. Oh so sweet 
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Einheriar Ulrich
Minmatar
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.05 17:24:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 05/02/2007 17:25:33
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Except that new players have a snowballs chance in hell to get into the Dev sponsored alliance. Thats reserved for veterans I guess.
If you think thats true..why do you play this game 
Its been known since the earlist days of EVE..that CCP have chars in several corps, alliances and so on....It only makes sense, they enjoy the game to, and this way they can perfectly monitor EVE, find out whats good, and what needs to be improved.
Do i think they use there DEV powers, to influence the game......NO
If you have any proof of your accusation, please bring it forth so we all can judge it.
If your unhappy and dont trust CCP, why do you play their game, seems a waste of money...
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Einheriar Ulrich
Minmatar
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.05 17:32:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Lyn30101
if every alliance who currently holds space here could not go there.... I'd be all over that ****.
To the guy said that one person can make a difference in EVE, yeah, if he flys a cap ship sure he can.
Every ship needs a pilot..its not the ship thats important......CAP ships can be killed, it takes tenasity, and the will to do it, and good pilots
Your not your Ship
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Mantiss
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Posted - 2007.02.05 17:39:00 -
[75]
I like the idea of another server and see no harm in it. I also don't see how it would affect the storyline as that could be continued on the new server.
Frankly if the game lags with 30,000 toons logged in it will probably be unplayable with 50,000. At some point CCP will have to decide if listening to players complain about lag and continually paying to upgrade Tranquility will be cost effective vs. simply adding another server. As long as you can port your toons, ships and equipment it wouldn't matter to me. It would probably affect existing alliances and corps because some members would move to the new server but they would make adjustments and survive.
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CyberChick
The Ghost Riders
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.05 18:24:00 -
[76]
I doubt it would honestly happen, it would require double the amount of server hardware and would be a risk that ccp would be likely to attempt unless tranquility became too over capacity.
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Soporo
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Posted - 2007.02.05 18:32:00 -
[77]
I'd go to a new area/wormhole/server in a new york minute, and wouldnt look back. I would also happily pay a double subscription fee.
Either that or increase the size of the current EVE universe by 3 times and add more gates and better stations everywhere AND more rescources that are forever used up, like labs etc.
Just gets tiring feeling like a drone in the huge machinations of Alliance and T2 monsters and farmers.
As for the EVE flavor being what it is, blah blah blah...that flavor is getting stale, at least for n00bs and casuals, and people who dont care for being in gigantic alliances or corps. |
Politocratis
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Posted - 2007.02.05 19:01:00 -
[78]
I fail to see the point in doing that.
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Politocratis
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Posted - 2007.02.05 19:05:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Bilanto Gatejumper
Edited by: Bilanto Gatejumper on 05/02/2007 12:38:51
Originally by: Topaz Skydiver
The chinese cluster is not competing with Tranquility. It has a separate 'regional' community. Tranquility is where the 'world' meets.
True, and I think the reason most people would like to have a new server (me included) is a chance to play equal with all the vets in the long run. (Given other games who is not timedriven on the skills you can grind your self to max skill and join in friends on equal basis even if the server is 2-3 years old)
When I say that I also need to mention that I love the way the skills are leveled in EVE, but as a REALY late starter I would like to have a chance to gain up to a level of others if I really put my mind to it. How? I dont know, but thats why I think of a new server. Where a lot would have started on scratch. Perhaps a EVE 2? (Complete new game....)
Why? So 3 years from now some other noob can ask for the same thing for the same reason?
Will you want to start from scratch THEN, AFTER you realized that it is unnecessary?
How about this... build a subscriber base for 3 years.. THEN release the game for full play when everyone is at the starting line!
ORRRR, you can do what you said.. put your mind to it.. and you will see that you CAN compete with vets in a relatively short amount of time.
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Bilanto Gatejumper
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.06 07:38:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Politocratis
ORRRR, you can do what you said.. put your mind to it.. and you will see that you CAN compete with vets in a relatively short amount of time.
I cant see how on earth it is possible. So I guess I will tug around in empire controlled space as long as I find it fun, then go into some lowsec until I get killed and close the account. For me this game has lite future in the long run (To far behind) even thou it is fun atm.
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Scav Silver
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Posted - 2007.02.06 07:40:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Constantine Arcanum
how would you tie that in with the storyline?
Simple.. New EVE gate..
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.06 10:11:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Soporo
I'd go to a new area/wormhole/server in a new york minute, and wouldnt look back. I would also happily pay a double subscription fee.
Either that or increase the size of the current EVE universe by 3 times and add more gates and better stations everywhere AND more rescources that are forever used up, like labs etc.
Just gets tiring feeling like a drone in the huge machinations of Alliance and T2 monsters and farmers.
As for the EVE flavor being what it is, blah blah blah...that flavor is getting stale, at least for n00bs and casuals, and people who dont care for being in gigantic alliances or corps.
Stop being a drone then?
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hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.02.06 10:22:00 -
[83]
bad idea all round theres still plenty of space to work with where eve is concerned plus the ability to add new systems
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Jovienus
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Posted - 2007.02.06 11:52:00 -
[84]
Prelogue...
After so much time little did the tribes of EVE know what was about to be fall them.
Without warning the wormhole EVE opened its gates once again to the distance worlds of Earth. Scientists and Engineers from all the races mounted an expedition to discover the fate of their Earth bound brothers. But little did they know what horrors they would encounter...
Technical
The separate server could in theory be linked to the EVE universe via ingame lore, the EVE wormhole could be used as a trigger mechanism for players to shift from one server to another. The transition could by careful controlled by a strict guideline.
Epilogue
As the first explorers from the EVE universe enter the Earth(Eden) universe they encounter a strange alien race, unlike anything they could imagine, quick the Eveians discover that the true reason behind the collapse of the EVE wormhole wasn't a natural one but a precursor to an alien invasion of the Earth systems eons ago.
Now the Jovians enter into the fray to unite the Eveians in a colossal undertaking, to invade and secure the Earth systems and liberate the human colonies from the vile alien menace, who now have set their sights on the EVE universe.
EVE 2 - Lost Eden
I think it a possibility huh? No... :(
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.02.06 12:24:00 -
[85]
Is it this time of the month already?
Ourselves Alone |
Bilanto Gatejumper
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.06 12:28:00 -
[86]
People are talking about wormholes and so on. Forget that. It would not solve a thing.
What I am talking about which would solve what I think is the problem here would be a complete new server without anyway of getting players or goods from one server over on the other. I don't see problem with load on existing tranq. I see a problem with starting 3 years later than the vets will bring me in a position where I really never can compete.
So forget about wormholes. They are not interesting. What I whish would happend was that they set up a brand new server that everyone who wanted could start fresh on.
Everyone that got a high ranking toon that they have spend way to much time on already can stay for all I care.
So don't talk about "Want work", "Never gonna happen" and so on. Unless you like EVE to rot on root you need to do something that will trigger new players to come to the game who is not the usual casual player.
Perhaps the solution is not to make a new server, but give me something that can make it possible for me to catch up with those who have played for 2-3 years. Someway that I can work my way up to where they are and not ending up in always be in second.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.06 12:36:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Crumplecorn on 06/02/2007 12:32:58
Originally by: Bilanto Gatejumper
Perhaps the solution is not to make a new server, but give me something that can make it possible for me to catch up with those who have played for 2-3 years. Someway that I can work my way up to where they are and not ending up in always be in second.
WTF should you be able to 'catch up' (ignoring for the moment the fact that you, to some extent, can)? What the hell is this obsession with the 'best' in this game? You need the oldest character with the most skills and the most ISK and the best ship and the best modules blah blah blah.
Stop worrying about who is 'ahead of' or 'behind' you (truly retarded concepts in a game with as much breadth and depth as Eve) and go play the damn game.
FFS
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Savio
Caldari
The Knights Of Camelot
DeStInY.
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Posted - 2007.02.06 12:39:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Soulita
Yea, this idea comes up on the forums every once in a while.
It is a real bad idea, sorry. One of the great things about EVE is that everyone lives in the same universe. Multiple servers would destroy the EVE spirit.
What she said!
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Lojack Girl
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Posted - 2007.02.06 13:05:00 -
[89]
creating a new server so YOU can start agian with everyone at an equal footing would just be dump
first of all after a few months you will just have calls for another one to be created as new noobs will want the same thing you got and why not? it will just be a land grab and t2 bpo grabing fest of massive proportions.
for all of you saying "in wow i can be up with the best inside 3 months"
All you need in eve to be "THE BEST" is three months skill for an inty, t2 guns and all the other support skills. about 40 mill to fiting it and maybe some cheap snake implants and there you go uber inty pilot that will go 1 on 1 with the 4 year bad boys in an itny inty fight :D ofcourse you want to fly a BS but thats youre chouse every fleet needs intys so you wont be "left in newbville skilling".
but thats the bottom line, you can only skill a skill to lvl 5 so its not like the vets have a hand you cant match they only have more hands :P
after t2 the only way a vet can fit better than you is officer or faction mods that are very exspence and having a friend will lose him his advantage there and then. plus if you fly an inty and they fit a facxtion/officer mod they are nuts/haxed/"t2 bpo owner LOL"
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Hillary Lips
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.06 13:49:00 -
[90]
withot reading more than 5 words NO
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DeadDuck
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.06 13:52:00 -
[91]
That would be the end of EVE. What makes this game a unique one is that everyone is playing in the same server. So my answer is NO.
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Ishmael Hansen
No Quarter.
C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.02.06 14:04:00 -
[92]
This is like PMS, you don't like it, but once a month it comes poping on the forums.
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Bilanto Gatejumper
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.06 14:36:00 -
[93]
Its truly fascinating to see how much of you seem to be against it becouse it would rock with the fact that someone else might compete on what you now can surf on.
Originally by: Freaky Bare
Try to see this from other points of view! If you had played for 3 years and every noob out there had the same skill you have - would you be happy? These guys have been loyal customers for 3 years! While I hope CCP values me as a 4 month customer I hardly expect them to throw the vets under the Hauler.
I am not talking about leveling up in matter of minutes. I got no problem that it would take a lot of time and effort to catch up, but try to see it the other way. 3 year old players can be afk most of the time and still be 3 years a head even if I work my ass of to do my best.
But I think we can close this discussion. It is obvious that most of the player base is scared to death that someone could actually start out on new on a fresh and untainted server. :) They would have no prestige or control over those players.
Originally by: Freaky Bare
Have you considered buying a character? Let's see, these guys have paid for 3 years @ say $12/mo that's $432. Take the $432 and buy GTC's. Trade the GTC's for ISK. Trade the ISK for a 3 year old character. This will take much less time than grinding an Orc to lvl 40. Problem solved!
Never, and I never will. My char will be mine and my own to level. But this got nothing to do with price and for some reason orcs... (Assuming your talking about WoW? Right? But what does that got to do with it? In WoW you CAN grind up even if your 2 year late on a server. This problem dont exist there... (But they got plenty of others problems.))
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Warrio
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Posted - 2007.02.06 14:41:00 -
[94]
Implementing this abomination of an idea would kill eve.
It's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the number of dogs you warp in with. |
Valan
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Posted - 2007.02.06 15:02:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Valan on 06/02/2007 14:58:24
Originally by: Bilanto Gatejumper
Its truly fascinating to see how much of you seem to be against it becouse it would rock with the fact that someone else might compete on what you now can surf on.
Originally by: Freaky Bare
Try to see this from other points of view! If you had played for 3 years and every noob out there had the same skill you have - would you be happy? These guys have been loyal customers for 3 years! While I hope CCP values me as a 4 month customer I hardly expect them to throw the vets under the Hauler.
I am not talking about leveling up in matter of minutes. I got no problem that it would take a lot of time and effort to catch up, but try to see it the other way. 3 year old players can be afk most of the time and still be 3 years a head even if I work my ass of to do my best.
But I think we can close this discussion. It is obvious that most of the player base is scared to death that someone could actually start out on new on a fresh and untainted server. :) They would have no prestige or control over those players.
Originally by: Freaky Bare
Have you considered buying a character? Let's see, these guys have paid for 3 years @ say $12/mo that's $432. Take the $432 and buy GTC's. Trade the GTC's for ISK. Trade the ISK for a 3 year old character. This will take much less time than grinding an Orc to lvl 40. Problem solved!
Never, and I never will. My char will be mine and my own to level. But this got nothing to do with price and for some reason orcs... (Assuming your talking about WoW? Right? But what does that got to do with it? In WoW you CAN grind up even if your 2 year late on a server. This problem dont exist there... (But they got plenty of others problems.))
I'm just short of 53 million skill points. Only a very small portion are not ship based or weapon based.
I've been in two minor fleet ops recently with newer players following the orders of newer players. My vet status by no means puts me on a pedestal or means I know everything. the vets in our corp lose ships the same as everyone else, actually probably more than we should. I think its great that new and old players can compete in EVE, you can't in any other MMORPG.
All your worried about is your eweener, you don't have as many SPs or ISK as someone else. If thats how you measure your success power to you. There are new players with more isk than me. I have no doubt in some situations I'll get splatted all over the nearest moon by a new player. I base my success on the relationships I've developed through the game. I'm not an individual I'm a cog, I'm a soldier in the ranks of many.
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Marc deBourgogne
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Posted - 2007.02.06 16:23:00 -
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No, but there can be 1 exception in the distant future :
When EVE will be united in 1 global alliance we will connect our cluster to the WoW servers and conquer them one by one...
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.06 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Bilanto Gatejumper
Its truly fascinating to see how much of you seem to be against it becouse it would rock with the fact that someone else might compete on what you now can surf on.
Originally by: Freaky Bare
Try to see this from other points of view! If you had played for 3 years and every noob out there had the same skill you have - would you be happy? These guys have been loyal customers for 3 years! While I hope CCP values me as a 4 month customer I hardly expect them to throw the vets under the Hauler.
I am not talking about leveling up in matter of minutes. I got no problem that it would take a lot of time and effort to catch up, but try to see it the other way. 3 year old players can be afk most of the time and still be 3 years a head even if I work my ass of to do my best.
But I think we can close this discussion. It is obvious that most of the player base is scared to death that someone could actually start out on new on a fresh and untainted server. :) They would have no prestige or control over those players.
Originally by: Freaky Bare
Have you considered buying a character? Let's see, these guys have paid for 3 years @ say $12/mo that's $432. Take the $432 and buy GTC's. Trade the GTC's for ISK. Trade the ISK for a 3 year old character. This will take much less time than grinding an Orc to lvl 40. Problem solved!
Never, and I never will. My char will be mine and my own to level. But this got nothing to do with price and for some reason orcs... (Assuming your talking about WoW? Right? But what does that got to do with it? In WoW you CAN grind up even if your 2 year late on a server. This problem dont exist there... (But they got plenty of others problems.))
The attitude you point out, that of vets wanting to stay ahead of everyone else, is one you made up yourself.
STFU
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Posted - 2007.02.06 16:32:00 -
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A completely new one, no. But a portal to our old galaxy or another one might be a good idea. A new one opens up more space and the old galaxy would probably start a war with us.
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Soporo
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Posted - 2007.02.07 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Soporo on 07/02/2007 00:29:52
I personally don't give a rats ass whether someone can fly a better ship than me, or has more uber shield skills, or gunnery or whatever.
My big issue is the gigantic alliances and huge corps, sucking up everything. The T2 Barons, most of which are in huge Alliances. The endless belts of nothing but secure cans. The chokes and camps, the fact that you really have to go deep to find a system that no one frequents much.
Everything just seems crammed and overpopulated.
The fact that you go to 0.0 with a corp and MUST join an Alliance or otherwise pay for you presense there.
Otherwise, your gonna get mashed like a bug.
The fact that everything is pretty much ESTABLISHED, or Taken or Owned or Controlled or Exploited or Farmed by groups impossible for a casual or new/aspiring corp to have much of any affect on whatever.
So, yeah, new Server? Hell, a wormhole? Even just make TQ space 3 times larger... Sign me up.
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Einheriar Ulrich
Minmatar
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.07 00:48:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 07/02/2007 00:48:42
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 07/02/2007 00:46:29
Originally by: Soporo
Edited by: Soporo on 07/02/2007 00:29:52
I personally don't give a rats ass whether someone can fly a better ship than me, or has more uber shield skills, or gunnery or whatever.
My big issue is the gigantic alliances and huge corps, sucking up everything. The T2 Barons, most of which are in huge Alliances. The endless belts of nothing but secure cans. The chokes and camps, the fact that you really have to go deep to find a system that no one frequents much.
Everything just seems crammed and overpopulated.
The fact that you go to 0.0 with a corp and MUST join an Alliance or otherwise pay for you presense there.
Otherwise, your gonna get mashed like a bug.
The fact that everything is pretty much ESTABLISHED, or Taken or Owned or Controlled or Exploited or Farmed by groups impossible for a casual or new/aspiring corp to have much of any affect on whatever.
So, yeah, new Server? Hell, a wormhole? Even just make TQ space 3 times larger... Sign me up.
Even if it just takes a few months to get where TQ is, fine, a few months of bliss.
If you want space....go fight for it...its the way the game is meant to be.
What you are complaining about, is other peoples succes in EVE....I tell you what, you dont have to be a T2 barone, to be uber rich if thats you desire, you dont have to suck high end roids, to get ahead
As said before in this thread...0.0 is so sparsly populated, that if you want to move there do it...but be prepared to fight for your right to exist out there...if you smart, you will breake more than even. and pilots with tenacity and the will to fight, matters more than an uber blob.
What i get out of your post is, I want to have all the same opportunities, as those successfull eve players, but i dont want to fight for it, i want access to 0.0 space, where no one bothers me.
I have played this game since its release...I tell you what Empires, aand alliances dont last forever, they all die in the end, its the nature of EVE.
have you ever considered, to carve your own way, to take your corp to the next level...if figthing is not for you, be a builder, a trader, a mission runner....But dont complain about those EVE players, who are playing the game as its supposed to be played.
No one dictates you what to do in EVE, its all up to you, dont wanna join alliances, pay rent and still be out there in the frontier, you have to fight for it, are you prepared to do that
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Posted - 2007.02.07 01:28:00 -
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Yeah, fight for it = blob up, join huge corpx in huge x x alliance etc etc.
You missed my point.
Even with exploration theres no exploration if you get my meaning.
I dont mind fighting for what I want, but I would hope someday to do it in something other than / against aformentioned huge blobs/alliances etc.
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Einheriar Ulrich
Minmatar
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.07 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Soporo
Yeah, fight for it = blob up, join huge corpx in huge x x alliance etc etc.
You missed my point.
Even with exploration theres no exploration if you get my meaning.
I dont mind fighting for what I want, but I would hope someday to do it in something other than / against aformentioned huge blobs/alliances etc.
Currently, 0.0 = blob up and ally or die.
I suggest you read my answer again...because you have clearly misunderstood everything i wrote.
You dont have to blob to be successfull, you have to be smart. go explore, but be ready to fightin 0.0, nothing in EVE comes risk free.
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Soporo
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Posted - 2007.02.07 01:45:00 -
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Quote:
You dont have to blob to be successfull, you have to be smart..
You sure as hell do, if your gonna do it in 0.0, and if you want to hang there, anything other than ninja mining and ekeing out an existance at the sufference of the local alliance.
My POINT (however badly put) was EVE TQ space has become too damned small.
Big enough to have some empty systems, small enough so that the current Alliance population can controll it.
In short, I would be amazingly happy merely to see 3 times the space made available, or a wormhole or whatever.
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Sorja
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.07 01:47:00 -
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@ original poster :
Yes.
CCP thinks they can solve their lag problems though.
Having us smile and shrug for over a year
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Novemb3r
The Splinter Syndicate
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.07 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Bilanto Gatejumper
But I think we can close this discussion. It is obvious that most of the player base is scared to death that someone could actually start out on new on a fresh and untainted server. :) They would have no prestige or control over those players.
You do realise that the people with "prestige" and "control" on this server have it not because of any in game skills don't you?
You want power and prestige? Go and get it. You don't think ASCN built its empire and BoB got to be where they are (just to name 2 examples) because of any in game skills do you?
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Admai Sket
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Posted - 2007.02.07 02:39:00 -
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How about two EVEs? This one, well developed with lots of people with lots of stuff, and a second eve, that can only be played if you have an account on this eve. The new eve would be empty and unexplored, and you'd start with nil-point SP wise, just as you did when you came naked and screaming into the first eve.
Personally, I'd LOVE to see Eve from the point of view of a pioneer. I wish I had found eve when it was first created, and I think the nearest I could get to that is to have a new EVE game setup in parallel to this one. Then again, that's kinda what the test server is for, but in SiSi, your stuff would get wiped once in a while when the do that sync thing they do :-)
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VulkanXx
Minmatar
Cryo Crypt inc.
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.07 04:17:00 -
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I club seals.....
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Eclipsen413
Gallente
The Last Ravens
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Posted - 2007.02.07 05:03:00 -
[108]
re-open the eve gate and let the protoss, terrans and zerg through! or just have the terrans with cool ships and weapons
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Freaky Bare
Minmatar
Blueprint Haus
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.07 13:44:00 -
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As I said before, my character is still young. I am telling you that I could turn a profit in 0.0 without having any help from a corp or alliance. It would be challenging - but doable.
How? Sneak a T1 fitted BS into 0.0 and dissappear. Rat the out-of-the-way systems until you run out of ammo. Try to sneak out. You can easily fit a BS for 100-120 million (or less) and make back your investment in a couple days of ratting. Use an Alt to scout and you may not even need to lose the ship.
NOTHING is impossible in this game if you work at it and think outside the box!
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.07 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Freaky Bare
As I said before, my character is still young. I am telling you that I could turn a profit in 0.0 without having any help from a corp or alliance. It would be challenging - but doable.
How? Sneak a T1 fitted BS into 0.0 and dissappear. Rat the out-of-the-way systems until you run out of ammo. Try to sneak out. You can easily fit a BS for 100-120 million (or less) and make back your investment in a couple days of ratting. Use an Alt to scout and you may not even need to lose the ship.
NOTHING is impossible in this game if you work at it and think outside the box!
It's myths like this: Originally by: Soporo
The fact that you go to 0.0 with a corp and MUST join an Alliance or otherwise pay for you presense there.
Otherwise, your gonna get mashed like a bug.
The fact that everything is pretty much ESTABLISHED, or Taken or Owned or Controlled or Exploited or Farmed by groups impossible for a casual or new/aspiring corp to have much of any affect on whatever.
that let us do that kind of thing, so hope that the mass rabblers don't learn to play the game, or 0.0 really will fill up 
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Knights of the Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2007.02.07 14:40:00 -
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Everything Einheriar Ulrich said is correct. I for one would never pay for 0.0 access and personally speaking, view it as a weakness. If you want to move to 0.0 you need to look at maps, load up your blockade runner and plan your move. There are several 0.0 regions with npc stations like Delve, Fountain, Curse, Venal, Stain...etc. Personally, having lived so long in Curse I would have to recommend it for people looking to explore and settle in 0.0 for a while. Its not as rich as fountain, but has so many "in's and out's", that if you know the area well, you will never get trapped. Its definitely going to be my EvE retirement home.
Alternatively, people looking for 0.0 access could have joined the gold rush when kali hit and staked a claim in the new regions. The drones are very lucarative and people made billions upon billions off of them within the first few days that Kali went live. But then again that would have required reading the patch notes and knowing about the new regions, and then planning ahead. That is not everyone's strong suit, they just want to sit back and whine. They are so much better at it.
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Valan
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Posted - 2007.02.07 14:47:00 -
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People sit back and whine because they've paid a sub and expect things on a plate.
Problem is EVE isn't like that, nothing is given you have to take it. It doesn't always have to be done at the point of a gun.
EVE is like real life, you either make opportunities or sit on the dole and whine your poor.
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Kunming
Outcasts
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Posted - 2007.02.07 14:52:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Marc deBourgogne
No, but there can be 1 exception in the distant future :
When EVE will be united in 1 global alliance we will connect our cluster to the WoW servers and conquer them one by one...
Hmm sounds like bombarding Caldari Prime all over again
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Ashlii
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Posted - 2007.02.10 22:28:00 -
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I have 3 accounts, 2 of them are almost as old as the game itself and the last a year old.
I'm not worried about starting over. I would love to be able to open up a Player (leased/rented) server from CCP to do my own story with others using it's game engine.
I could see it being rented/leased at a cost based on max number of players served or database size needed. All the player accounts would have to be standard, CCP accounts, not trial accounts. CCP gets their money from it as well as the server rent.
CCP would likely gain extra income from server rentals and additional players that would like to play in Multi-player realms that do not like or care for Massive Multi-Player.
Just give me tools to construct missions, alter the Databases, and design star systems.
95% of the time I buy a game, it MUST have Modding capability. It is the biggest selling point of any game I look at.
Ashlii
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.02.10 22:30:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Constantine Arcanum
how would you tie that in with the storyline?
That's easy, Bobby Ewing mode, we wake up one day and this was all a dream.
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Lance Hawke
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2007.02.10 22:31:00 -
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Didn't read any replies.
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Posted - 2007.02.10 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Constantine Arcanum
how would you tie that in with the storyline?
There's a storyline?
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Ashlii
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Posted - 2007.02.10 22:39:00 -
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Wrong, I read every single reply up to and including my post.
Did you read that I have characters that are over 3 years old? The game, for me is getting way stale. That sounds like CCP may end up losing 3 accounts pretty soon.
About the only way I can breath life in my interest in the game is to be allowed to create my own server/content and play with a select set of friends.
PvP for me is a strong strong dislike. I just don't like it and I tend to ignore Player-characters who do. Heck, I have the power to do so being so old.
Ashlii
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Mayoz Miner
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Posted - 2007.02.10 22:45:00 -
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I used to think no but in light of recent events it might be good as one of the servers could be DEV free and the other one the DEV's could play to gain the info and experiance they need and then they could apply it to both servers.
People would have a choice, a server without a DEV influencing player game play negatively and messing up bigtime.
Like I said everything they learn on TQ could be applied to the new server aswell, no theres a concept that works.
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banannagirl
Minmatar
The U-B-H-C
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Posted - 2007.02.10 23:00:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Petrothian Tong
Edited by: Petrothian Tong on 07/01/2007 19:28:57
I can see how they add in another galaxy that is tied in with this one..(just more regions?.. lol)
"Oh look , the eve gate opened again!!!!"
ahhhh EARTH IS INVADING NEW EDEN!!!!!
Terran Invasion! lol
that could be something after factional warfare (assuming one side got the upperhand) ..then to kinda reset the balance of power, the invasion plotline...then all of new eden's faction have to join together to fight the invasion....
lol
but... yeah, not a new server though...(heck our eve world is made of many many servers..)
But who is going to try to organise a retaliation against earth i wonder .. the large corp('s') .....!
i can hear it now ... 'Hey folks you got to join us and play the game our way...!' says large corp one
'What even though we pay to play it Mr large Corp ..'replies small independant corp
'YES ...!' replies big corp one
'Cant we join the earth rebellion and get you out of the game someway ...' replies smaall corp
'YOUR ACCOUNT is banned ...' replies large corp memebrs in unison ..!
regards
BG
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Soporo
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Posted - 2007.02.10 23:38:00 -
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Anywhere where the Devs arent in huge game shaking alliances, self-admitted metagaming with t2 bpos and account sharing, and that what was just discovered...
So yeah, despite all the I WON EVE old farts crying nay, the idea of a new server or a wormhole or whatever holds appeal. |
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