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Chuck Dawg
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Posted - 2007.01.09 18:08:00 -
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Edited by: Chuck Dawg on 09/01/2007 18:04:40 Man I love it. Honestly I do. Its hilarious to watch Shin Ra get on here and reply to 15 messages at a time and act all high and mighty.
Can I ask you an honest question? When was the last time you saw the Sun? I mean come the **** on, this game can not mean THAT much to you. So much that you forge Kill Mails and edit screenshots with photoshop? That's truly just sad.
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Masta Killa
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.01.09 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Chuck Dawg Edited by: Chuck Dawg on 09/01/2007 18:04:40 Man I love it. Honestly I do. Its hilarious to watch Shin Ra get on here and reply to 15 messages at a time and act all high and mighty.
Can I ask you an honest question? When was the last time you saw the Sun? I mean come the **** on, this game can not mean THAT much to you. So much that you forge Kill Mails and edit screenshots with photoshop? That's truly just sad.
Dude you lost 1 raven, get over it.
Ps. Making up a killmail when the npc's get the final blow is perfectly fine, the kill happened and not getting the killmail doesn't erase that fact.
And furthermore, the photoshop thread bluffed alot of people, thus serving it's point.
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Masta Killa
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.01.09 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan
In my eyes you were trying to justify flaming a portion of the entire m0o career by focusing only near the end. I didn't see how you could blame me for doing the same to you. I understand your points, and I'll just agree to disagree. Ego's and such are had things to argue with.
P.S. how did Masta Killa get in my sig!?
Oh the irony of a bob member talking about egos.
Ps. Reported for a personal attack.
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Nuemari Vas
MetaForge Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.09 18:25:00 -
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Some of these accusations can be clarified by just looking at our KB; it's there where you'll find confirmation or contradiction.
Can we just let this thread die now, for the sake of the general EVE community? I mean, seriously, this has to be boring the poo out of the non-involved parties, if they are even still bothering to read it.
Game on BE. Looking forward to the pew pews. 
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Isonkon Serikain
Gallente Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.09 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: FotoFlame
Enjoy it while it lasts, we'll be home soon.
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mr passie
Minmatar Purgatorial Janitors Inc. Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.09 18:47:00 -
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Shame this (as usual) turned to a major smackfest. Our corp moved in to Dek not 2 weeks ago. we were afraid it was gonna be quiet, but MAN it's fun up north. No 300 v 300 node crashes, just plain good fun. almost always people to shoot at.
Yes our stats aren't too good atm but we'll get there in the end. Thks for the fun fights. Quite contrary to the average my personal stats are still positive (I was very lucky, lol, and I'm working on it now) We'll keep it coming.
as a last note, cease with the damps plz
 I'm a reversed paranoid schizophrenic. I have voices in my head I just think I don't hear them! |

thoradh
AirHawk Alliance Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.09 19:11:00 -
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Guys calm down, no need to get hot under the collar 
Twice in the last week I've had the pleasure to go up against BE, they are giving FLA master classes in PvPing, and sometimes you have to pay for your education 
So yes, the stats are heavily favouring BE, and may well continue to do so for a while, though FLA are learning, slowly but surely. In one enagaement we got owned good and proper, the following night, over 2 hours or so, after 5-6 engagements, BE gave up and left, not able to kill us, I think they got 1 BS, 1 cruiser and 1 inty. Which compared to some of the schoolings we've had we would consider that as a draw 
Nothing but GFs and GLs in local too, so really I have no complaints about BE. There's nothing stopping anybody in the game doing what they do, just they have perfected in to a fine art, and no matter who it is you will find it hard to kill these chaps 
> > Noli illegitimi carborundum! > |

Shinoobie
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.09 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Shinoobie With all due respect Triumvirate have far more balls that UDIE will ever have.
Reasons
They fight PvPers
They fight PvPers
They fight PvPers
They don't declare was on someone who is not home.
Of the stats that got posted. Make of it what you will. IRON's stats for that same period are a lot more impressive, and no were not shooting carebears. Were shooting people who regulary put it on the line, and will stand and fight and can shoot back at us :o Nooooo you say! Yes indeed our enemies shoot back. :s
So your 723 man alliance killed more than our 25 man corp?
Does that seriously surprise you?
You killed 118 battleships while we killed 114. Now, considering you have 28 times as many players as we do, thats pretty poor.
Furthermore, we lost 2 battleships, while you lost 45.
So what kind of twisted mathematics are your applying to come up with this drivel about having more impressive stats than us?
No twisted mathematics. I didn't claim that. I said they were more impressive.
I.E We are fighting good PvPers :) Not carebears. Logical? Or can't you see that?
Elite Scouting 
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Razor Jaxx
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.09 19:53:00 -
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Just out of curiosity, how do you pacify a region that's not at war?
Cute stats though.
Fate kills |

Stud Longcock
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Posted - 2007.01.09 20:09:00 -
[190]
Pacify those rabid carebears!

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E 137
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.09 20:24:00 -
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so did iron leave fla to look after their space for them ? leaving a carebear aliance to look after there own carebears that makes no sence to me atleast fla look after ther own even try to protect there neighbours . how many others in the north can actually say that. would u come to fla in a time of need
congratulations fla for standing firm and puting up a fight and congratulations to burn eden very impresive as always u never fail to impress |

Scylla V
VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.09 20:28:00 -
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At least it won't be freezing cold when we return. Thanks for keeping Deklein warm BE.
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.09 20:31:00 -
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Yup, at least Deklein is hostile of sorts. Otherwise w'd have all sorts moving in, in our absence.
What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass! |

Dr Einkeisel
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.09 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa
Originally by: BobGhengisKhan
In my eyes you were trying to justify flaming a portion of the entire m0o career by focusing only near the end. I didn't see how you could blame me for doing the same to you. I understand your points, and I'll just agree to disagree. Ego's and such are had things to argue with.
P.S. how did Masta Killa get in my sig!?
Oh the irony of a bob member talking about egos.
Ps. Reported for a personal attack.
Urm .... Check his corp out oO ?
/sutty
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Egne Ver
Caldari The Reckoning
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Posted - 2007.01.09 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dekiri
Originally by: Egne Ver
Then TRI æs we are uber Triumvirate war decs FLA to get easy kills Triumvirate war dec D2 only after making sure the D2 fleet is otherwise occupied Triumvirate will probably war dec my 5 man corp to help their bruised egos, since they need to beat up on children to feel good about themselves.
BE uses tactics nobody likes TRI are weak *****es that pick on weaker groups to feel good about being so weak.
Oh and if the ôweak are consumed by the strongö BS was true your neighbors would have put an apple in your mouth and roasted you long ago.
Wow.. sounds like someone is REAAAAALLLY bitter. Just for the record, not everyone that pods you is an evil monster. Some people PvP for the fun of it. And I am pretty sure BE care a lot about the fact that you don't like "their tactics", but the use of dampeners and jammers is a no brainer and the fact that they don't risk their ships like idiots doesn't make them evil either. You need a lot of discipline to pull stats like they do. And that is something most actually respect. BE are not using exclusive tactics, they are just disciplined enough to not risk their ships if they know they loose them.
The weak are consumed by the strong is true. The problem is that apparently your definition of weak is a different one. If you hold space you become weak unless you can defend it easy. If you don't hold space (have no pos or anything) then you are automatically stronger, because you are harder to hurt. It is almost impossible to really hurt an entity that doesn't claim anything you could take from them, and acts reasonably smart, and that is what makes them strong.
Yep I was really ****y, came home after a really bad day. I couldnÆt sleep and read the forms(still donÆt know why)
I donÆt know BE never met them I donÆt know TRI never met them I donÆt know FLA never met them I donÆt know D2 never met them
So I donÆt have a dog in this fight, only time Ive been podded is during a war we started. So no not bitter, just was in a crappy mood and made the mistake of reading these forums after the crime and bragging section.
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Egne Ver
Caldari The Reckoning
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Posted - 2007.01.09 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dekiri
Originally by: Egne Ver
Then TRI æs we are uber Triumvirate war decs FLA to get easy kills Triumvirate war dec D2 only after making sure the D2 fleet is otherwise occupied Triumvirate will probably war dec my 5 man corp to help their bruised egos, since they need to beat up on children to feel good about themselves.
BE uses tactics nobody likes TRI are weak *****es that pick on weaker groups to feel good about being so weak.
Oh and if the ôweak are consumed by the strongö BS was true your neighbors would have put an apple in your mouth and roasted you long ago.
Wow.. sounds like someone is REAAAAALLLY bitter. Just for the record, not everyone that pods you is an evil monster. Some people PvP for the fun of it. And I am pretty sure BE care a lot about the fact that you don't like "their tactics", but the use of dampeners and jammers is a no brainer and the fact that they don't risk their ships like idiots doesn't make them evil either. You need a lot of discipline to pull stats like they do. And that is something most actually respect. BE are not using exclusive tactics, they are just disciplined enough to not risk their ships if they know they loose them.
The weak are consumed by the strong is true. The problem is that apparently your definition of weak is a different one. If you hold space you become weak unless you can defend it easy. If you don't hold space (have no pos or anything) then you are automatically stronger, because you are harder to hurt. It is almost impossible to really hurt an entity that doesn't claim anything you could take from them, and acts reasonably smart, and that is what makes them strong.
Yep I was really ****y, came home after a really bad day. I couldnÆt sleep and read the forms(still donÆt know why)
I donÆt know BE never met them I donÆt know TRI never met them I donÆt know FLA never met them I donÆt know D2 never met them
So I donÆt have a dog in this fight, only time Ive been podded is during a war we started. So no not bitter, just was in a crappy mood and made the mistake of reading these forums after the crime and bragging section.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: taylor04 oh its nice to see you remember killing! you see i cant remeber all ive killed due to the great amount but hey..... i got my vaga bk through the gate not letting me jump and i did wait about 15 secs =o.....
just come fight us m8 then we will see who has the bragging rights 
I remember killing you because I have a good memory when it comes to these things.
We have fought you, several times in EC and the whole time lost only 1 Raven.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten I thin kyou misread his post. His post wasn't posting facts, it was posting that they fight people who fight back. Making it harder to kill them, and easeir to die as they get shot at. I hope you can read his post again and reply respectfully to his post.
I understood his post perfectly. Firstly, he has not read much of this thread and did not read any of the FLA guys talking abuout the big fleet fights. Secondly, he was implying, inadvertadly or not, FLA, his allies, are somehow sub-standard and do not shoot back. Then he was implying that FIX are somehow good PVPers, again completely false. I merely ignored all this as I assumed that the majority of people would be able to detect these blatent lies and focused on his statement about killboard stats.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86 Do you know what really makes me giggle about this thread?
Largely, its BE vs. FLA, this thing atm. BE have said "GFs FLA, you've got guts, lets keep the fights a flowin'". FLA have said "GF's BE, its great fun fighting an enemy with the brass ones to fight proper battles, when they crop up". In other words, we're being quite nice to each other 
All the flaming and such in this thread seems to be coming from people who arn't even up here 
That always happens. Most people have a high self-opinion of themselves. This, coupled with the fact they are so easy to wind up, creates a recipie for smack.
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Sextus Licinius
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Razor Jaxx Just out of curiosity, how do you pacify a region that's not at war?
Cute stats though.
I think that you pacify someone by shooting his ass until he doesn't move or smack around anymore, thus he is at peace 
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man" |

Dracolich
North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.01.10 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Dracolich I am confused, wasn't Burn Eden, the fenix alliance 3 years ago, SATAN? I believe my corp back then was one of the first war decs from Burn Eden.
As I recall it, the fenix alliance got dismantled by Celestial Apocalypse, then SolApathy created Burn Eden, and a bunch of tfa joined like Hellspawn(you), Fragm, and later a very young Shin Ra(think sept 04, when I checked his employment in december 04 in Fountain).
Nonetheless BE has proven itself many times over, with the few men it has. I do think it would be more popular, if people such as yourself, SATAN were a frontman, but maybe your corp wants another public image.
3 years ago, Eve was a totally different game, and M0o was on top of it. BE has many similarities to M0o, but I do think you lack personalities such as Lord Zap, TWD etc. Another M0o is impossible with todays game mechanics, but you come pretty close in the fear factor department. Needless to say you are better PvP'ers, but aren't we all?
TFA existed at the same time as BURN EDEN. About 6 people from TFA left and joined BURN EDEN, later effectively taking it over in a peaceful way. Shin Ra was not created till end of Nov 04 so you probably didn't see me in Fountain in Nov 04.
So you think we should be more evil? In recent months there has been a tendancy for people to actually start liking us and we all feel we haven't been ******* enough people off.
I said I saw you in December, sorry I got your creation date wrong(is been over 2 years since I checked it - I guess that wasn't too clear in my statement). No, I didnt expect you to be more evil, more of a approach like I.E. Omniscient, which I likewise consider to be old-skool pvp'ers(in the face, no blob kind of way, if you get what I mean by that, if not then think Celes), where you don't come out as people who just wanna **** people off - in a smacky kind of way. Maybe thats the way you like it. I am all good with that, I like reading about BE, and always have. I just think people would give you the credit where its due, if you came out like professionals.
No doubt - everyone in their right mind have respect for BE qualities as PvP'ers and their quality teamwork. Therefore, since your qualities in the battlefield speaks for themselves, why come out and be arrogant(and sometimes downright tards, when I know you have smart people such as yourself, and especially Satan)?
But if you wanna be evil out-of-game, then I do think you should turn it up several notches. In-game, I dont doubt how you are portrayed by your victims.
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Imode
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.10 00:46:00 -
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Quote: I can sense your frustration with IRON. We are not playing into your plans (or the people who hired you) to lure us back to Deklein.

I blame Monorail. I think he's getting ****ed that he went all the way up there and found out IRON wasn't home. Second time too! We sent him down to Esoteria and POS wasn't home. ____________________________ My sig, therefore I am. |

Brian Ballbag
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Posted - 2007.01.10 00:46:00 -
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Its not real Its a game
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.01.10 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Shinoobie
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Kaeten I thin kyou misread his post. His post wasn't posting facts, it was posting that they fight people who fight back. Making it harder to kill them, and easeir to die as they get shot at. I hope you can read his post again and reply respectfully to his post.
I understood his post perfectly. Firstly, he has not read much of this thread and did not read any of the FLA guys talking abuout the big fleet fights. Secondly, he was implying, inadvertadly or not, FLA, his allies, are somehow sub-standard and do not shoot back. Then he was implying that FIX are somehow good PVPers, again completely false. I merely ignored all this as I assumed that the majority of people would be able to detect these blatent lies and focused on his statement about killboard stats.
Blatant lies?
1) FLA just lost the majority of it's regular PvPers. BGG and KAR come to mind. The rest are somewhat trying but they have a way to go. FACT 2) FIX may not be good PvPers in your eyes. But that is a matter of perception. OPINION.
No lies in my post.
1) I read every single post. FACT 2) Big Fleet fights to you constitute your 25 active members? Sounds very much like a skirmish to me. Nothing more. OPINION not ignorance
The drivle you post constituing your overly large ego, and somewhat inflated head, doesn't wash with me. Many people have played this game long enough to understand the mechanics and make of the situation what they will. We will not all agree, but one thing I do take a dislike to, is being called a liar.
So you admit we weren't just ganking NPCers.
Glad to see I finally persuaded you.
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J909
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.10 01:29:00 -
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Edited by: J909 on 10/01/2007 01:26:50 Nice stats for sure =)
love to hate you guys =)
/me not getting involved in muppet talk
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.01.10 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: J909 Edited by: J909 on 10/01/2007 01:48:11 Edited by: J909 on 10/01/2007 01:26:50 Nice stats for sure =)
love to hate you guys =)
Wish you would bring it to us like you talk it to us all the time...
Why? Because your the only person left in the game that doesn't know we are better than you?
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.01.10 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: J909 Edited by: J909 on 10/01/2007 01:48:11 Edited by: J909 on 10/01/2007 01:26:50 Nice stats for sure =)
love to hate you guys =)
Wish you would bring it to us like you talk it to us all the time...
Why? Because your the only person left in the game that doesn't know we are better than you?
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Stitcher
Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.10 02:14:00 -
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To Burn Eden:
I'd like to say that fighting you may well be the most fun I've had in EVE in a long time. When it comes down to it, we are not a PvP-centric alliance, and we're definitely lacking in the experience and long (not to mention prestigious) history of PvP that BE has, so it's been a real pleasure over these last nights to see my side rise again and again to the challenge of taking you on.
Among other things, there's no better training than to fight BE, and our pilots are learning fast. You're kind of doing us a favour here guys .
I salute you, Burn Eden. We could not wish for a finer foe.
Having said that, I hope you'll understand if we keep shooting you ^_^ ***
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J909
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.10 02:35:00 -
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Why? Because your the only person left in the game that doesn't know we are better than you?
Dear Mr Shinra,
hhmm interesting... 'better than us' hhmm at what ?? domino's ?.. Kerplunk ??, blimey perhaps you mean monopoly ?? - surely not !! Im confused by what you could possibly mean by 'better than us' - ***** is bad mkay, please for your own health and grasp on reality stop smoking it! It sounds like you have delusions !
to quote a phrase 'prove it or STFU'
lots of luv
J9 (sitting in a badger in Jita undocking from 4/4... waiting for your 'clown shoes' corp to do more than just gob off as usual) ----------------------------------------------- Cash from Chaos |

Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.01.10 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: J909
Why? Because your the only person left in the game that doesn't know we are better than you?
Dear Mr Shinra,
hhmm interesting... 'better than us' hhmm at what ?? domino's ?.. Kerplunk ??, blimey perhaps you mean monopoly ?? - surely not !! Im confused by what you could possibly mean by 'better than us' - ***** is bad mkay, please for your own health and grasp on reality stop smoking it! It sounds like you have delusions !
to quote a phrase 'prove it or STFU'
lots of luv
J9 (sitting in a badger in Jita undocking from 4/4... waiting for your 'clown shoes' corp to do more than just gob off as usual)
At at everything except Hungry Hungry Hippos.
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