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Wirewalker Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:07:00 - [1] Wow well done , why has this been kept quiet ? Anyway aparently this is what happened. "2007.01.07 20:54 As of this weekend, ISS Cassini Outpost corporations only revenue generating asset - ISS Cassini Outpost in EC-P8R was seized by Dusk and Dawn Alliance An overwhelming fleet Capital ships, Support Ships and D2's Titan participated in destroying the towers in Cassini - despite having over 48hrs stronium - due to identical timing of an assault by IAC/AAA/GoonFleet assault on the ISS Marginis station. The Dusk and Dawn corporations and member pilots involved in the assault include the original owners of the outpost. The original owners previously received 20bn isk for the sales of the stations to the EvE Public through the original ISS Managed Cassini IPO. The dividend accrued to date will be issued on 1st February. ISS have no immediate plans or capability to re-capture this station. An announcement will be made on the future of the ISSCA shares at that time." Tidied the shares mail up a little. Well Done D2/IAC/AAA/GoonFleet , as a shareholder in Cassini & a Blue to IAC This is a very nice move by all of you , well planned & executed.
Belid Hagen The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:09:00 - [2] Originally by: Wirewalker Wow well done , why has this been kept quiet ? because you post before reading
D2O HeavyWater Amarr Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:10:00 - [3] Looks like everyone was aware of this but you yarrr
Wirewalker Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:11:00 - [4] lol i only posted it because i hope there's some movies & screenshots.
Belid Hagen The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:14:00 - [5] which have also been posted
deadmaus Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:16:00 - [6] Well done guy's. (combat) Your 720mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Shipyard, wrecking for 488.1 damage.
Khermine Baddenash Sehmy Trading	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:45:00 - [7] The Trust is 20 billion isk paid for its Outpost then its alliance he taking it behind ultimate force with titan. Not greatest scam of the EVE, but scammers in EVE is normally anonymous.
Galbraith Caldari The X-Trading Company	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:56:00 - [8] ISS sleeps with the enemy, so sometimes its just politics.. btw, Trust ingame alliance was disbanded 10 months ago, so this deal was never on d2 ground, because d2 was founded later.
Khermine Baddenash Sehmy Trading	Posted - 2007.01.08 13:00:00 - [9] Edited by: Khermine Baddenash on 08/01/2007 12:57:20 Originally by: Galbraith ISS sleeps with the enemy, so sometimes its just politics.. btw, Trust ingame alliance was disbanded 10 months ago, so this deal was never on d2 ground, because d2 was founded later. Same people, same corps, differnet alliance name. Trust people and corps in D2. All politicians is thieves anyway. Trust not to be trusted. Watch if they sell it again and steal it again back months later. rofl
Dekiri Exanimo Inc	Posted - 2007.01.08 13:01:00 - [10] Originally by: Khermine Baddenash The Trust is 20 billion isk paid for its Outpost then its alliance he taking it behind ultimate force with titan. Not greatest scam of the EVE, but scammers in EVE is normally anonymous. Can't call it scam, while 20BN where payed for the outpost, trust did not have a choice to not pay and keep the outpost. ERGO: Ego's where hurt and hurt ego's usually shoot if they can, even if its many months later. --------------------------------- Exanimo Inc. - Mercs for hire Join channel "CONTRACT EXAN" in game if you wish to hire Exanimo Inc. Or contact cptblood or kakanur
Khermine Baddenash Sehmy Trading	Posted - 2007.01.08 13:07:00 - [11] Originally by: Dekiri Can't call it scam, while 20BN where payed for the outpost, trust did not have a choice to not pay and keep the outpost. ERGO: Ego's where hurt and hurt ego's usually shoot if they can, even if its many months later. Trust not pay. Trust GET paid 20bn. Question? Did Trust say they robbed during IPO? did Trust say thank you for isk? did Trust say good deal at time but the scam later?
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.01.08 13:07:00 - [12] Edited by: Plutoinum on 08/01/2007 13:05:43 Well, no real news, but the simultanous assault on that one and Marginis shows that Remedials plan that he announced in his TS speach has been successful: To get a good relation to D2 via RA as the diplomatic middleman. So much love now. Interesting times ahead. CTD/con-loss vs. log-out. A proposal for a fix.
Arimai hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.08 13:28:00 - [13] Good job D2.
k1Lz Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.08 13:30:00 - [14] Originally by: Plutoinum Edited by: Plutoinum on 08/01/2007 13:05:43 Well, no real news, but the simultanous assault on that one and Marginis shows that Remedials plan that he announced in his TS speach has been successful: To get a good relation to D2 via RA as the diplomatic middleman. So much love now. Interesting times ahead. :D DELTA is recruiting
Dekiri Exanimo Inc	Posted - 2007.01.08 13:31:00 - [15] Edited by: Dekiri on 08/01/2007 13:29:40 Originally by: Khermine Baddenash Originally by: Dekiri Can't call it scam, while 20BN where payed for the outpost, trust did not have a choice to not pay and keep the outpost. ERGO: Ego's where hurt and hurt ego's usually shoot if they can, even if its many months later. Trust not pay. Trust GET paid 20bn. Question? Did Trust say they robbed during IPO? did Trust say thank you for isk? did Trust say good deal at time but the scam later? Thanks for correcting me and then not even following up with halfway correct english. It was more of a typo =P I am well aware that trust did not pay but got payed 20BN. Take that into the context of my post. And yes of course they said good deal, because they had no choice AT ALL. They had these options: - Take money and shut up - Take the outpost back, just to have it taken again by BoB - Take nothing Wich option would you have taken? Ofc 20BN, but that doesn't compensate for the hurt ego =) So it is still no scam, it is late revenge for being forced to take a deal they did not really want. a bit mean towards the ISS, but definitly not a scam. Sad for the ISS, but still no scam. --------------------------------- Exanimo Inc. - Mercs for hire Join channel "CONTRACT EXAN" in game if you wish to hire Exanimo Inc. Or contact cptblood or kakanur
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.08 13:34:00 - [16] I knew investing was a bad idea Glad I didnt Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.08 13:36:00 - [17] Wow, things are moving fast. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Khermine Baddenash Sehmy Trading	Posted - 2007.01.08 13:54:00 - [18] Originally by: Dekiri Thanks for correcting me and then not even following up with halfway correct english. It was more of a typo =P I am well aware that trust did not pay but got payed 20BN. Take that into the context of my post. And yes of course they said good deal, because they had no choice AT ALL. They had these options: - Take money and shut up - Take the outpost back, just to have it taken again by BoB - Take nothing Wich option would you have taken? Ofc 20BN, but that doesn't compensate for the hurt ego =) So it is still no scam, it is late revenge for being forced to take a deal they did not really want. a bit mean towards the ISS, but definitly not a scam. Sad for the ISS, but still no scam. ISSCA is not ISS. ISSCA is shares owning corp. Because ISS and Trust say good deal, pretend to EVE players they happy are, EVE players think all settled and buy shares. Lots of people, maybe some align to BOB others align to D2, people over all EVE buy the shares. The 20bn isk not from Count TaSessine and ISS people, 20bn isk from all over EVE. So Trust scam EVE players. ISS lose towers and moons and ships. But EVE players lose the 20bn isk. So yes, maybe not so good deal as Trust pretend druing IPO to get the money from all of EVE.
Smoking Mirror Secret Interests Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.08 14:42:00 - [19] Edited by: Smoking Mirror on 08/01/2007 14:38:45 Exactly. If D2 wants to make this right, then return the 20 billion to Cassini shareholders. They could have just refused the deal, accepted the loss, and kept their honor, or returned the 20 billion and kept some honor. If they keep the money and take the station, they show they have no honor. Do the right thing, D2. Return the 20 billion to Cassini shareholders who paid it to you in good faith.
Cardassius Caldari Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A	Posted - 2007.01.08 14:43:00 - [20] Originally by: FireFoxx80 Wow, things are moving fast. Easy when Dreads + Carriers are invincible in KALI. There is so much less risk deploying them now.
Dekiri Exanimo Inc	Posted - 2007.01.08 14:48:00 - [21] Edited by: Dekiri on 08/01/2007 14:46:44 Originally by: Khermine Baddenash Originally by: Dekiri Thanks for correcting me and then not even following up with halfway correct english. It was more of a typo =P I am well aware that trust did not pay but got payed 20BN. Take that into the context of my post. And yes of course they said good deal, because they had no choice AT ALL. They had these options: - Take money and shut up - Take the outpost back, just to have it taken again by BoB - Take nothing Wich option would you have taken? Ofc 20BN, but that doesn't compensate for the hurt ego =) So it is still no scam, it is late revenge for being forced to take a deal they did not really want. a bit mean towards the ISS, but definitly not a scam. Sad for the ISS, but still no scam. ISSCA is not ISS. ISSCA is shares owning corp. Because ISS and Trust say good deal, pretend to EVE players they happy are, EVE players think all settled and buy shares. Lots of people, maybe some align to BOB others align to D2, people over all EVE buy the shares. The 20bn isk not from Count TaSessine and ISS people, 20bn isk from all over EVE. So Trust scam EVE players. ISS lose towers and moons and ships. But EVE players lose the 20bn isk. So yes, maybe not so good deal as Trust pretend druing IPO to get the money from all of EVE. Everybody who is not completly clueless knew that an investment in the EC-P outpost was more then risky. If you did not know it and invested it is your fault. And yes trust me i am aware of what ISSCA is. If you check my corp history you will see that i am EX-ISSN(and proud so having flown with a bunch of really good guys) and i have myself defended EC-P versus various entities. And to be honest i would not have considered ISS-Cassini shares a safe investment EVER. Also if you think that the "eve-public" bought those shares i think you are very much mistaken. The bulk of shares of any ISS outpost are given out strategically or to ISS members. So don't get all hot about the "eve-public", when it fact it is not the eve-public, but a very small part of it. As for "giving back 20BN" I have nothing to do with D¦ at all btw, but i would laugh loud and hard if they did that. I actually doubt that the people who received the 20BN back then are currently of any significance within the D¦ alliance. --------------------------------- Exanimo Inc. - Mercs for hire Join channel "CONTRACT EXAN" in game if you wish to hire Exanimo Inc. Or contact cptblood or kakanur
Macmuelli Gallente Gallente Mercantile Exchange	Posted - 2007.01.08 14:56:00 - [22] Originally by: Smoking Mirror Edited by: Smoking Mirror on 08/01/2007 14:38:45 Exactly. If D2 wants to make this right, then return the 20 billion to Cassini shareholders. They could have just refused the deal, accepted the loss, and kept their honor, or returned the 20 billion and kept some honor. If they keep the money and take the station, they show they have no honor. Do the right thing, D2. Return the 20 billion to Cassini shareholders who paid it to you in good faith. iss had get this outpost for " free"(getting control right from bob) ---->) shareholders paying them to get a dividende out of it----> Iss coudnt protect the station----> Bad contract and risk for share holders... good for iss----> earning isks from shares-----> Paying small dividende --- > making good prfit.... i think not d " had to pay back the shareholders.... Iss had to do it. cos they had earn the isks from u.... they coud not protect it... theyre Fault... my personal minds on it... Whats a human without dreams?..... DEATH
DANGEROUS PHANT0MS	Posted - 2007.01.08 15:09:00 - [23] Originally by: Smoking Mirror Edited by: Smoking Mirror on 08/01/2007 14:38:45 Exactly. If D2 wants to make this right, then return the 20 billion to Cassini shareholders. They could have just refused the deal, accepted the loss, and kept their honor, or returned the 20 billion and kept some honor. If they keep the money and take the station, they show they have no honor. Do the right thing, D2. Return the 20 billion to Cassini shareholders who paid it to you in good faith. umm D2 was not an entity when the ec debacle took place D2 was created AFTER that the deal was with TRUST Trust is NOT a political entity anymore I am AMAZED that it took this long for 'the right thing' to be done. My thoughts and observations on FACT are my own.
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.08 15:11:00 - [24] /me Polishes off a Medal for D2. Truly an amazing feat.
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.08 15:12:00 - [25] Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 08/01/2007 15:09:56 Originally by: Cardassius Originally by: FireFoxx80 Wow, things are moving fast. Easy when Dreads + Carriers are invincible in KALI. There is so much less risk deploying them now. Heh, I meant the whole thing. From what appeared to have the potential to be a long drawn out POS war between ISS and IAC, to a number of alliances having a go at ISS and them loosing an outpost. All in a few weeks. Originally by: Smoking Mirror Edited by: Smoking Mirror on 08/01/2007 14:38:45 Exactly. If D2 wants to make this right, then return the 20 billion to Cassini shareholders. They could have just refused the deal, accepted the loss, and kept their honor, or returned the 20 billion and kept some honor. If they keep the money and take the station, they show they have no honor. Do the right thing, D2. Return the 20 billion to Cassini shareholders who paid it to you in good faith. I think even ISS would laugh at this. IRL shares loose value as well as gain value, when companies go out of business the shareholders don't get their money back. When BoB took the AZN station, they didn't offer to reimburse ASCN the money spent in constructing the outpost; does BoB have 'no honor'? To be fair, this is not the first time someone has attacked an ISS POS. And it's not the first time there have been disagreements over ISS ownership of an outpost. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
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Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.08 15:31:00 - [27] Yeah thats pretty much all wrong. LV Defending ISS doesnt mean those allainces will attack. As for D2 vs BoB there are plenty of other threads that talk about the logistical nightmare that would be for either side. And there's about a dozen and a half other reasons. snip Alt post. Any questions, email [email protected] - Kreul Intentions
Secondus Dawkins The Black Morias Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.08 15:34:00 - [28] Edited by: Secondus Dawkins on 08/01/2007 15:33:23 (edited for spelling) Originally by: Smoking Mirror Edited by: Smoking Mirror on 08/01/2007 14:38:45 Exactly. If D2 wants to make this right, then return the 20 billion to Cassini shareholders. They could have just refused the deal, accepted the loss, and kept their honor, or returned the 20 billion and kept some honor. If they keep the money and take the station, they show they have no honor. Do the right thing, D2. Return the 20 billion to Cassini shareholders who paid it to you in good faith. Let's clear this up. If someone beats me up and steals my house, I'm going to be cranky. If they then give it to their friend, I'm going to be crankier still. If their friend then offers me some pity money, I may just take it, but they did not just buy the rights to my house, they bought off their own guilt. They are illegal tenants and I will take the house back given any opportunity. Some might disagree with this interpretation, but as The Trust no longer exists as a political entity, it's members are not bound by any of its perceived obligations.
Dominie Dirtch Minmatar Revival.	Posted - 2007.01.08 15:37:00 - [29] Good on you D2! _________ My voice shall tear you asunder and show your vile ways.
thoradh AirHawk Alliance Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.08 15:50:00 - [30] Originally by: Secondus Dawkins Let's clear this up. If someone beats me up and steals my house, I'm going to be cranky. If they then give it to their friend, I'm going to be crankier still. If their friend then offers me some pity money, I may just take it, but they did not just buy the rights to my house, they bought off their own guilt. They are illegal tenants and I will take the house back given any opportunity. Some might disagree with this interpretation, but as The Trust no longer exists as a political entity, it's members are not bound by any of its perceived obligations. Exactly as the man says > > Noli illegitimi carborundum! >

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