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Ceriu Cielo
Old Spice Syndicate
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.11.17 01:48:32 -
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Wouldn't it be great if you could easily tell which crystals are good and which crystals are junk?
Anybody who does PVE with lasers may have this same frustration that I have in terms of identifying damaged crystals when it comes time to replace them with new ones. Here of some of the pain points I have personally struggled with.
- You can only identify damage done to your crystals through the fitting window.
- If you remove these crystals, and then refit them, it does not show any damage at all until you undock and redock.
- There is currently no other "convenient" method to identifying the damage, like 'show info', or seeing it on mouse-over.
- Most people I play with have told me when they notice they have crystals in with different damage percentages, rather than just trash the ones that are the most damaged, they just dump them all and buy new ones, mostly out of just being "particular".
- Couple all of this with having a mess of crystals in your inventory that when you unfit a damaged one, good luck on finding the damaged one out of the ones you already have. Unless you have purchased containers and have your stuff neatly separated, which seems to be the only way to counter this.
I dont seem to be the only one who thinks it should be looked into.
What I am suggesting is that there be made available, other means to show crystal damage, which ultimately, the implementation style would be up to CCP. But an idea I had was to show a percentage in red on the item in inventory so you wouldnt have to fit it, mouse over, right click 'show info' etc. Here is an example of what I mean that I drew up quickly in paint, lol.
Crystal damage example
It would be nice if this could be looked into by CCP and some discussion could be held on the matter. If it is looked at by CCP I appreciate your time in the matter and hope there might be some consideration to optimize the way crystal damage is presented to players.
Thank You,
Ceriu Cielo
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DrAzalith
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.11.17 01:50:07 -
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+1 |
SoonerLater Sasen
Rrostarr mining Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.11.17 01:54:59 -
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+1 |
Petulka89
Rrostarr mining Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.11.17 01:55:41 -
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+1 |
Lokto Lazair
Old Spice Syndicate
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.11.17 01:56:11 -
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I second that motion |
Elohellspawn
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.17 01:56:14 -
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+1 |
Bobb Bobbington
The Cult of the Rare Pepes
135
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Posted - 2015.11.17 02:32:41 -
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Hhhmmmmmmm.... All posters above have 0 likes and said exactly the same thing within 8 minutes of each other (except for Lokto)...
Pretty sure alt army....
On the idea itself, I could see it as a useful QoL improvement. |
Ceriu Cielo
Old Spice Syndicate
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.11.17 02:39:03 -
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Not an alt army. I brought it up to my corp and alliance mates and showed them the link. We discussed the idea as I was posting it, and I said Id appreciate it if they believed in it to hop on and show their support. I apologize if it looks sketchy, but that's what happened. |
DrAzalith
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.11.17 02:42:59 -
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holy **** bobs right army of atls roll out!!!!
gg Bob gg |
Sinpwnz0rz
TYR.
Exodus.
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Posted - 2015.11.17 02:54:01 -
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Perhaps some type of semi-transparent overlay like a clock going around or a bar filling up. Or because they're crystals they can FADE darker and darker shades. And a little sparkle when they're at 100% to make them a different texture entirely than 99.99%.
+1 tho.
Proud interceptor pilot and member of Tyr.
Exodus. Alliance Tournament Captain
2nd place ATXIII
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4rd place ATXI
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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
647
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Posted - 2015.11.17 03:17:01 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5677470#post5677470
+1 for OP post anyway |
elitatwo
Eve Minions
The-Company
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Posted - 2015.11.17 05:47:33 -
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The Sanshas and I appreciate this.
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2015.11.17 06:45:08 -
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yeah would be awesome. i have a container full with half used laser crystals in most of my bases. as a absolute minimum crystal damage should be shown on the tooltip so you can sort out good from bad in your hangar without the requirement to fit them.
how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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Netan MalDoran
Last Garrison
131
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Posted - 2015.11.17 06:57:35 -
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I dont even USE lasers, and +1
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
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Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
352
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Posted - 2015.11.17 06:58:57 -
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+1 for QoL
For posting an idea into F&I:
come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it.....
If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
651
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Posted - 2015.11.17 08:44:11 -
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Needs to happen. Not an alt...swearsies.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Aivlis Eldelbar
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
140
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Posted - 2015.11.17 11:23:17 -
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While I lol'd at the alt army +1'ing this, this is a valid idea. |
Nyalnara
The Unchained Club
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Posted - 2015.11.17 12:26:08 -
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Sinpwnz0rz wrote:Or because they're crystals they can FADE darker and darker shades.
Nope. Because all the red cristals may at one point look the exact same. Ok for a gauge or something like that, though.
+1.
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Ceriu Cielo
Old Spice Syndicate
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.11.18 23:42:31 -
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Aivlis Eldelbar wrote:While I lol'd at the alt army +1'ing this, this is a valid idea.
Maybe I'm not understanding what the definition of an "alt" is but I understand it as alternate accounts all played by one player. Someone felt the same way you did and I said "While I was writing up the post I was discussing it in TeamSpeak with my alliance members and asked them if they believed in the suggestion to stop on by and support it" I let them know when it went live and they did just that. I know it might "look" like an "alt army" but it's simply not the case. I just feel implored to defend myself against something that I know is not true or suggests that I would behave in such a way to create a facade of support for myself and my suggestion. If you're just kidding then I apologize, if not, I don't know what else to say haha.
I'm really relieved I'm not the only one that seems to have these feelings about Amarr crystal damage and it's really awesome that a couple people came through to support the idea or agree! Team Amarr Baby!
Now I know its not like hundreds of people have all gotten behind this because it's not a game breaking issue and I suppose it all boils down to a "quality of life" matter for most of us Amarr players. So I guess it brings a question to my mind of, if in fact something would seem to improve quality of life or a suggestion is an incredibly good idea, how much support or requests for such an improvement would it take to begin or warrant a discussion from CCP just out of curiosity? I guess if I feel that strongly about it should I start some type of campaign for it?  (just curious)
Thank you all for your time!
Ceriu Cielo
Crystal Damage QoL CEO
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Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
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Posted - 2015.11.20 16:26:59 -
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an 'alt' is an 'alternate character' from the main (you can only have 1 main) can either be on the same or different account
I have 5 chars, of whom this would be a QoL for the main + 2 alts
the only ways you could really get this into the game would be to file bug reports over fitting not showing damage on crystals when docked until CCP hate you (don't advise this) or let this campaign gather momentum.
Sooner or later more people will approve of this - (have you tried linking this in an amarr trade hub and/or provi-block?)
For posting an idea into F&I:
come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it.....
If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
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Kyeudo Van'mynai
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.20 16:46:23 -
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Netan MalDoran wrote:I dont even USE lasers, and +1
Same. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2015.11.20 17:13:38 -
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Supported. The only other way to estimate how much damage your crystals have is where they sit in your hangar (if I remember correctly, the more damaged ones are closer to the top)
CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
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M1k3y Koontz
Respawn Disabled
Initiative Mercenaries
804
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Posted - 2015.11.20 21:47:49 -
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I don't always fit lasers, but when I do, this would be really helpful.
Especially since I have a container full of the damn things and I have no idea how much is left on them when I'm in a hurry.
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.
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Catherine Laartii
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
Heiian Conglomerate
623
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Posted - 2015.11.21 00:09:11 -
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I'd prefer that they get rid of crystal damage from the game entirely. The only thing it does is create more clutter and make people using them pissed off when they suddenly disappear. |
Darth Squeemus
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.21 00:16:19 -
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Supported |
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.21 00:26:43 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote:I'd prefer that they get rid of crystal damage from the game entirely. The only thing it does is create more clutter and make people using them pissed off when they suddenly disappear.
i like it, but then would you imagine with all those already in game or just about to convert from LP's they gonna cost peanuts and we have a huge overstock for years |
Catherine Laartii
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
Heiian Conglomerate
624
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Posted - 2015.11.21 00:57:06 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:Catherine Laartii wrote:I'd prefer that they get rid of crystal damage from the game entirely. The only thing it does is create more clutter and make people using them pissed off when they suddenly disappear. i like it, but then would you imagine with all those already in game or just about to convert from LP's they gonna cost peanuts and we have a huge overstock for years
tbh i don't think it's going to be that much of an issue considering they'd get lost in pvp. If you consider the fact that price for them is already "balanced" somewhat by LP store prices they have a floor that they won't go through, even if they will be cheaper.
Lasers are great weapons not just because of their application and damage, but primarily due to the fact that you don't need to lug around a lot of ammo or care about reloading between ammo types. They should reflect their inherent strengths in this respect, as figuring out a way to repair them would be significantly harder to code than simply giving them the same code as t1 unbreakable focus crystals. |
Hopelesshobo
Tactical Nuclear Penguin's
507
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Posted - 2015.11.21 05:53:27 -
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+1
I would also like to have a way to combine damaged crystals in a way where you don't gain any shots, you just gain a cleaner hangar.
Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012.
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Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
1044
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Posted - 2015.11.21 06:30:37 -
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Supported in general.
This has been discussed before, and my favorite solution is Crystal polish.
In a nutshell:
Each type of degrading Crystal can be broken down into the same type of Crystal polish, with the amount gained based on Crystal size and damage level.
Crystal polish can then be applied to damaged crystals of the same type, the amount required based on Crystal size, to repair the damage even up to 100%.
This ratio needed to repair a crystal should be a slight net loss so that you could not break down a crystal and reconstitute it back up to full so as to preserve market stability in the face of longer lived crystals.
Now you can repair and stack crystals all you want. You don't even really need separate Crystal polish if that still is tiresome on inventory, though at a minimum I would think faction polish and t2 polish should be a thing. |
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