Hence no one (hardly ever) flies battlecruisers as link ships.
Same will apply to this, as it is so limited in the link role, shame the primary role is restricted to those users by requirements for running it that way.

And I agree the fact you can fit autocannons should not be a prerequisite for flying a thorax either. Or for that matter medium hybrids?

You should not be able to fit a warfare link without the skills, not need the skills to fly the ship
If you cannot fit the link due to skills, you cannot gain the bonus.
So, with that in mind, why are the skills to fit a warfare link a prerequisite to fly the ship?

Anyway as stated on the O7 show CCP rise is going on holiday until just before release, so expect these to Flop hard! After the pilots with link alts try them out and then forget them forever after the first week, because one would have to be a really special snowflake to train link skills on one's main when they are so up in the air, regarding eliminating OGB, until that is resolved.

What a wasted opportunity.

You are aware we are talking of skills relating to a destroyer here aren't you? And how relevent they are to this class of ships? And whether it is a good idea to boost up just how exciting the new area of effect mjd is , for the customer to discover, he has to then train destroyers to 5 , the new command destroyer skill, all the other skills for destroyer combat if he has not already got them, all the support skills too in order to survive using it? And than to add insult to injury warfare links to IV with the prerequisite for leadership V.

Now no one should expect to fly a T2 ship without support skills, It is quite normal, to train the racial ship to V. For a T2 ship. And there is always a new skill to learn for a new class. People might grumble and come to accept that.

But then adding on the warfare link requirement, is just going to annoy people unnecessarily.

Not a good way to make players feel happy with their new "present"

It appears that there are some who believe this may be a bad choice.

I still wait patiently for a cow-ops/EW/ECCM battle cruiser with an area effect cloak, and web drones worth a damn.

The only thing a stork is known for is delivering babies.

They on the test server, great fun to play with :)

I'm struggling to come up with a good Pontifex fit that isn't left with empty highs and still requires CPU and power rigs. I'm aiming for around 15k ehp, 1 link and a MJFG.

As for the bonuses, the spool up bonus seems like a waste and a MJFG range bonus per level (10km at level 5) would be much more useful. I don't see why this ship doesn't have the 3% per level boost to links like the command ships. These two issues make me question if i should even bother training the CD skill past level 1.

After playing around on sisi for an hour, overall i'm left feeling that the Pontifex could do with a little more CPU to make sure it can fill both it's specialized roles without sacrificing too much.

With the CD skill at 5 i think you only save about 2 seconds spool up on a level 5 MJFG, which is practically insignificant.

Whether you have a 6.5km range or a 10km rang, you are still in, or on the edge of, scram range. I just feel that the current range leads to too large a margin for error, which is easily overcome by those with the ability to blob but not the smaller gangs.

I can't help but wonder if you're being sarcastic, since you of all people would be able to grasp the concept of such blatant powercreep, if you have to outright delete old and invalidated classes.

What people who follow this thread told me is that the Destroyers will be quite hard to kill because they have a small sig (which should bloom when activating the jump field) and if one of these things burns inside the fleet solo its quite easy to fend off (some lachesis/Arazus with factionscrams) but if you are able to chain them and the people doing have proper skill, they can rip apart any slower fleet doctrine. I understand that it must be hard work to time the MJD gen properly so you dont come in too late/early and nothing happens.
I will be honest, i didn't bother to read all the last 30 pages or so, so please excuse me if this suggestion already happened.

HIC Bubbles interrupt any MJDs, local or field generated.

A simple risk vs. reward equation:
Option A = No HIC: You Risk that your fleet gets torn apart but you can MJD/warp off if the brown hits the fan.

Option B = HIC: You Risk that your fleet get hit by a painful bombrun or gets in a shortrange brawl it can't win but you will be rewarded with the security from hostile MJD fields.

Anyway, I look forward to the changes. No matter how its going to turn out, first look, then complain

Two buddies of mine did try this out on SiSi and this daisy chaining works in order of activation. We did was we were aligning to a celestial and the one in front activated first, then I and then the other missed it but we were already 200km from where we started so it does work with timer ticks and in order of activation.

So if you need to jump someone 100 to n+100km you can do just that.

I see an easy counter to any command dessies trying to jump out parts of your fleet:

Space out your fleet or have a few anti-dessy groups made up of two cruisers or a frig and a cruiser. These groups should worry about nothing but enemy command dessies. Whenever one starts to make a move, the nearest group MWDs to its most likely target, tackles and destroys the dessy. If the firepower of the group is insufficient to destroy it in a timely manner, have the group web and target paint the dessy and reassign a BC/BS's guns for a few seconds.

Oh yes, wormholespace has plenty of newbros in frigs on standby while having a t3-brawl ...

So I was messing about with the Pontifex on Singularity earlier. Sicced the drones on something and MJFGed myself away. Drones kept cheerfully murdering it until it died.

Is that supposed to happen? Not sure it's even unique to the MJFG, just never really bothered to play with MJDs before.

I expect these are already banned from the next AT.

I've never seen it brought up, but can a command destroyer take cloaked ships with it?

Would be funny if someone jumped off from, let's say a gate, and took a couple cloaked stalkers with him instead of leaving them behind.

A double jump has no counterplay. Seems to me that you just want gimmicky kills that take little skill.