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Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.08 18:48:00 - [1] All sneak attacks would fail. EX: The Famous act of deception the Trojan Horse. Trojan Horse Enters Troy Citizens notice local jumps by 3000 Soldiers Torch the horse then Log Off Any other examples from fiction or history that gets f'd up by local are welcome Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
Seroster ironwood ink	Posted - 2007.01.08 18:50:00 - [2] D-Day, the Allied blob would be immediately detected and the German army would logoffski.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.01.08 18:51:00 - [3] Without local, travelling in space would be like wearing a blindfold in the middle of a war zone... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:06:00 - [4] Originally by: Jim McGregor Without local, travelling in space would be like wearing a blindfold in the middle of a war zone... In SWG there was no local it was called spatial. I was an overt rebel (overt meaning I can be shot at by enemy imperials) Instead we had a little radar circle in the left hand corner that would show friendlies as purple, Neutrals/Covert Imperials as blue (smurfs), and Overt Imperials as Red circles. It worked fine especially when I would go on suicide runs in enemy territory (pre jedi) it got a substantially more difficult when Jedi were immune to my damage(Master Rifleman) and could kill me while running at mach 5 Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:08:00 - [5] Local is the equivelant of having a transponder in your ship. <-----------> MMORPG == Massively Moronic Online Raw Powergaming Grief fests.... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=426616 LowSec != NoSec
Portios Smith Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:10:00 - [6] Originally by: Jim McGregor Without local, travelling in space would be like wearing a blindfold in the middle of a war zone... Ship sensors (scanning) are suposed to be your eyes in space, not some chat window. its lame and you know it Sig removed does not contain your name, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:10:00 - [7] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 08/01/2007 19:12:41 Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Instead we had a little radar circle in the left hand corner that would show friendlies as purple, Neutrals/Covert Imperials as blue (smurfs), and Overt Imperials as Red circles. Originally by: Portius Smith Ship sensors (scanning) are suposed to be your eyes in space, not some chat window. its lame and you know it Well, I guess local could be replaced with a radar, but then you would not only know the amount of people in the system, you would also know their location. And people already think local gives too much info. :) Unless you make it kind of short ranged, but then we have the debate what a decent range is... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:13:00 - [8] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Originally by: Jim McGregor Without local, travelling in space would be like wearing a blindfold in the middle of a war zone... In SWG there was no local it was called spatial. I was an overt rebel (overt meaning I can be shot at by enemy imperials) Instead we had a little radar circle in the left hand corner that would show friendlies as purple, Neutrals/Covert Imperials as blue (smurfs), and Overt Imperials as Red circles. It worked fine especially when I would go on suicide runs in enemy territory (pre jedi) it got a substantially more difficult when Jedi were immune to my damage(Master Rifleman) and could kill me while running at mach 5 Well, I guess local could be replaced with a radar, but then you would not only know the amount of people in the system, you would also know their location. And people already think local gives too much info. :) Radar would make cloak ganking more intersting though Maybe a sustained radar pulse system to detect incomming ships. It would require a skill to increase the pulse rate but at lvl 1 It takes 1 minute to get feedback from a pulse and at lvl 5 it will take 40 seconds or something like that Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
Bastogne Caldari Merch Industrial	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:15:00 - [9] Edited by: Bastogne on 08/01/2007 19:12:04 Local is fine as it is.
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Seroster D-Day, the Allied blob would be immediately detected and the German army would logoffski. ------ relaxed corp looking for members

Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:20:00 - [11] this went waaaaay off topic. Now back to more local throughout history. Paul Revere wouldn't be in the history books simply because thanks to local the americans allready knew that the British were comming. Harriet Tubman would've been caught by slave hunters because "Masa" noticed that local was down 1 Pearl Harbor would've been a failed attack as the naval base attendants would've logged. (turn this into a conspiracy post and die I'm not putting on that tinfoil hat again) Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
Portios Smith Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:25:00 - [12] Edited by: Portios Smith on 08/01/2007 19:22:38 Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 08/01/2007 19:08:30 Originally by: Portios Smith Ship sensors (scanning) are suposed to be your eyes in space, not some chat window. its lame and you know it Well, I guess local could be replaced with a radar, but then you would not only know the amount of people in the system, you would also know their location. And people already think local gives too much info. :) scanner and scan probes as they are now with their limitations should be your only means of finding weather other ships are in system, the only way I can think of a player entering forced local chat is when he docks because the docking officials anounce it to the entire system People whine about cover-ops ships left cloacked for ever in some system and there is nothing that can be done about it. the fact is you shouldn't even know there is one out there! Is that lame local chat window. May be MSN is so powerfull in the future that in EVE every one gets signed on by force. Local as a means of determining who is in a system is probably the worst feature of EVE. Sig removed does not contain your name, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
ollobrains Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:28:00 - [13] interesting All posts made by myself represent my personal opinion only - they do not represent the rest of the privateer alliacne unless they decide to agree with what im saying
Beef Hardslab The 5 Amigo's LLC.	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:29:00 - [14] I want my own local window... Walk into a bar - **** there's an ex-girlfriend, time for a different bar. Go to a concert - hey there's some old buddies from highschool, gotta find 'em. At work - damn the boss just entered the building, better watch my surfing.
Gryphin Rambaldi Gallente	Posted - 2007.01.08 20:07:00 - [15] Rome: Brutus pops up in local. Caesar logoffskis. Nero checks Details on everyone, finding all the Christians. Cov Ops Scanners are deployed en masse. Constantine gets ganked at the gate. Right before he gets podded, bio changes to "NAP'ed with HTA (Holy Trinity Alliance)" America: Secret Service notices a gate activation. John WBooth pops up in local, but is in a Recon and slips past the gatecamp. Lincoln logoffskis. Convoy with VIP Kennedy undocks, and heads towards gate. Notices AFTER he undocks that 3 -10's from GKS (Grassy Knoll Snipers) are in local. Curses the 20 second redock timer as he gets podded. Greece: Spartans leave 10 in local TRM-P01E. Persians fly in 500 to try to pop the POS's that are coming out of reinforced. Spartans logon trap the dreads. Egypt: Pharaoh's EPeen corp is gatecamping bottleneck system D3N-1L3. They fail to notice that one of the cynos is hostile. Suddenly Moses pops up in local, Moses' Staff shows up on the scanner, and the node crashes from the killmails.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.08 20:10:00 - [16] ^ haha that is all made of win Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
AshrakTheWhite Red Wrath Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.01.08 20:23:00 - [17] Originally by: Gryphin Rambaldi Rome: Brutus pops up in local. Caesar logoffskis. Nero checks Details on everyone, finding all the Christians. Cov Ops Scanners are deployed en masse. Constantine gets ganked at the gate. Right before he gets podded, bio changes to "NAP'ed with HTA (Holy Trinity Alliance)" America: Secret Service notices a gate activation. John WBooth pops up in local, but is in a Recon and slips past the gatecamp. Lincoln logoffskis. Convoy with VIP Kennedy undocks, and heads towards gate. Notices AFTER he undocks that 3 -10's from GKS (Grassy Knoll Snipers) are in local. Curses the 20 second redock timer as he gets podded. Greece: Spartans leave 10 in local TRM-P01E. Persians fly in 500 to try to pop the POS's that are coming out of reinforced. Spartans logon trap the dreads. Egypt: Pharaoh's EPeen corp is gatecamping bottleneck system D3N-1L3. They fail to notice that one of the cynos is hostile. Suddenly Moses pops up in local, Moses' Staff shows up on the scanner, and the node crashes from the killmails. ROFL
sandshark	Posted - 2007.01.08 20:29:00 - [18] Edited by: sandshark on 08/01/2007 20:26:34 WWII Japanese "pvpers" notice "Enola G.ay" of "US Airforce" corp entered Hiroshima local, They run to fortress (pos) or quickly log off to log back in when the radiation is gone... Martin Luther King, Jr. Assasin entered Memphis local. After the famous words "I have a dream", he would of said that he couldn't remember what it was exactly and would have safespotted.
Daelmon Minmatar Ascent of Ages R i s e	Posted - 2007.01.08 20:47:00 - [19] Local is horrible and needs to be removed as a scouting tool.
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.01.08 20:59:00 - [20] Edited by: Roy Batty68 on 08/01/2007 20:56:15 LANDO - We've got to be able to get some kind of a reading on that shield, up or down. Well, how could they be jamming us if they don't know if we're coming. LANDO - Break off the attack! The shield is still up. RED LEADER - I get no reading. Are you sure? LANDO - Pull up! All craft pull up! ACKBAR - Take evasive action! Green Group, stick close to holding sector MV-7. CONTROLLER - Admiral, we have enemy ships in sector 47. ACKBAR - It's a trap! ----------- with Local: LANDO - 300 in local! ACKBAR - It's a trap! LANDO - Imperial blob! Control Quuuuue... ------------------- ... [OK] ... zOMG!

Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:10:00 - [21] or if our french army logs off when germans invades paris ! oh wait... ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Kung Zao	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:11:00 - [22] CCP should make it so you dont appear in local unless you talk. Also they should seed a new module, or even a missile/ammo type that tags targets. Basically have people guard the gates, lock, shoot - when hit target appears in local. That'd be fair in my opinion since alert players have a way to protect themselves provided they play together, which is how it should be.
Xaintrix The Shadow Order Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:23:00 - [23] Originally by: Gryphin Rambaldi Rome: Egypt: Pharaoh's EPeen corp is gatecamping bottleneck system D3N-1L3. They fail to notice that one of the cynos is hostile. Suddenly Moses pops up in local, Moses' Staff shows up on the scanner, and the node crashes from the killmails. You win Eve. This is +1 over the "Error" thread. Thanks for brightening my work day.
Jerick Ludhowe Internet Tough Guys Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:32:00 - [24] Originally by: Splagada or if our french army logs off when germans invades paris ! oh wait... rofl
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:38:00 - [25] Please refrain from the french bashing <--- Not french btw Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:40:00 - [26] i am French and hopefully joke with it :D sometimes our country screwed up, rest of the time and for many other things i'm very proud of it :) ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Weirda Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:41:00 - [27] Originally by: Portios Smith the only way I can think of a player entering forced local chat is when he docks because the docking officials anounce it to the entire system ... Local as a means of determining who is in a system is probably the worst feature of EVE. Weirda always thought that all the people who work in those gate is who announce "arrival" to system. That would be one HELL of energy jump in system whenever that thing fire anyways. Local is double edge sword. would be nice that it don't provide all that intel, but at the same time - there is social aspect to game that would be lost. granted that aspect already lost to most people after they in eve for little while (replaced by corp/alliance/friends)... some of initial friend in game (down in lowsec) would have never been met/made had there been no local. __ Weirda Join QotSA
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:42:00 - [28] Edited by: Ithildin on 08/01/2007 21:41:26 Originally by: Seroster D-Day, the Allied blob would be immediately detected and the German army would logoffski. D-Day is a classical example of near-D/T fleet movement, obviously! Originally by: Gryphin Rambaldi Rome: Brutus pops up in local. Caesar logoffskis. The Ubiqus Seraph (sp?) incident is more like it. Remember, Brutus was part of Ceasar's corp! - EVE is sick.
smashsmash	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:54:00 - [29] i ignore local most of the time. sometimes i wish i could leave it since it flashes and annoys me. i have a "it's a piece of crap but its paid for" bumper sticker on my ship so i don't really need a heads up about evil pirates. ---- Would you like some cries with your whaaamburger?
Zardenim	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:56:00 - [30] Maybe if local just displayed the number of people and the rest is up to the pilot's scanning capabilities. In lowsec anyways. Like they don't have enough tracking eq to provide full details on everyone.

hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.01.08 22:00:00 - [31] Originally by: Seroster D-Day, the Allied blob would be immediately detected and the German army would logoffski. Haha, that was the exact same thing that i thought about after reading the OP =================================== Above comments are my personal views Originally by: Oveur Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
fuze Gallente Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.08 22:00:00 - [32] People could notice that just before Superman logs in Clark Kent just logged off.
VaderDSL Caldari Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.08 22:11:00 - [33] Originally by: fuze People could notice that just before Superman logs in Clark Kent just logged off. Then gets banned for account sharing
Falcun Gallente North Eastern Swat	Posted - 2007.01.08 22:19:00 - [34] Edited by: Falcun on 08/01/2007 22:16:03 Originally by: VaderDSL Originally by: fuze People could notice that just before Superman logs in Clark Kent just logged off. Then gets banned for account sharing nah, Clark Kent is Superman's untrainable noob-alt spy :P --------------------------------------------------
Fornacis Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.08 22:26:00 - [35] There is nothing wrong with local. People gank and get ganked every minute in EvE with it. It forces pilots to be creative as is....no local is for the lazy. The "Nerf Local" whine will never end I see.....been seeing this stuff for over 2 years.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:36:00 - [36] Originally by: Fornacis There is nothing wrong with local. People gank and get ganked every minute in EvE with it. It forces pilots to be creative as is....no local is for the lazy. The "Nerf Local" whine will never end I see.....been seeing this stuff for over 2 years. Creative as in not having big red devil horns sticking out of your forehead when you enter a system because people seem to shy away from me once I come in for a looksee on whats going on. Besides I was trying to bring some humor out of a chat system that provides a little more info than a/s/l if you catch my drift Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
Xoria Krint The Movement	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:43:00 - [37] We can keep the local, But not the names of the people in the system, And no show info. Just the number of pilots in the system, And if someone is talking in local you can show his info. --- My Movies
Daelmon Minmatar Ascent of Ages R i s e	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:50:00 - [38] Originally by: Fornacis There is nothing wrong with local. People gank and get ganked every minute in EvE with it. It forces pilots to be creative as is....no local is for the lazy. The "Nerf Local" whine will never end I see.....been seeing this stuff for over 2 years. It will end. When local is nerfed, and it will be nerfed. Mark my words.
jbob2000 Gallente KIA Corp	Posted - 2007.01.08 23:55:00 - [39] Uhh the game would pretty much die in 0.0 without local. You wouldn't be able to find targets. You wouldn't ever get a fair fight and small gangs would be dead. PVP would turn into slow moving gank squads to kill anything before the backup warps in. Supposedly the scanner would be enough intel when you're mining/npcing/moving around, however, You can't scan the entire system so people in uber safes are truly untouchable. People with cloaks are untouchable (you don't know there's anyone actually there) and with the un-piloted ship clutter in most 0.0 hubs, you don't know who's truly out there.
Altz0r Scoutz0r	Posted - 2007.01.09 00:42:00 - [40] Edited by: Altz0r Scoutz0r on 09/01/2007 00:38:15 Error.

Mr Jay Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.01.09 00:42:00 - [41] Jesus would've known Judas was -10 Absolute Evil pwned my sig =(
Xaintrix The Shadow Order Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.01.09 00:50:00 - [42] He already knew Judas was -10, but accepted his fate when he got ganked and just played the game. As it is, he got promoted into ISD and just does content now with the Aurora folks every now and then. People say it's a myth, but every now and then you can see their handiwork in local. "And lo did he come forth from 0.0 bearing a BPO in each hand..." So anyone else see the burning lump of omber in field 9-6?
sugark Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.01.09 00:59:00 - [43] Originally by: smashsmash i ignore local most of the time. sometimes i wish i could leave it since it flashes and annoys me. i have a "it's a piece of crap but its paid for" bumper sticker on my ship so i don't really need a heads up about evil pirates. you do realize you can turn off the blink? just right-click on the tab and select blink off. ________________________________ Thanks, Annya Avyshnaya for my awesome sig! <3
LordZer00 Caldari Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.09 00:59:00 - [44] Absurd arguement... and of course, flawed logic. If you want to "imagine".. Imagine if I could fit a 'module' on my car that drained your cars gas tank... (Nos) OR... Imagine if every Allied or Axis soldier had endless supplies of clones and thus never really died.... Or..... Don't try to justify your whining with "if this was the real world" arguements, it doesn't work. "Imagine if Eve didn't exist, and we all had to get real lives"
Razin	Posted - 2007.01.09 01:19:00 - [45] Originally by: Fornacis There is nothing wrong with local. People gank and get ganked every minute in EvE with it. It forces pilots to be creative as is....no local is for the lazy. It forces people to do login traps. It forces people to dock or logg when hostiles show up. Etc. Is it for the lazy to depend on an all-seeing always "on" local as a flawless intel tool? ...
Culmen Caldari Gekidoku	Posted - 2007.01.09 01:30:00 - [46] Edited by: Culmen on 09/01/2007 02:33:36 Pearl Harbor Carebears in Hawaii notice local jump up. OMFG Japan is still set to +1 standings They see a cyno field as Japan jumps in its carriers so everyone docks/hides in POS shields since the Japanese did'nt bring dreads, they cant put the POSs into reinforced the Pearl Harbor capital yards are in the POS shields, so they cant be touched so Japan talks smack, which doesnt work since the USA alliance is primarily english speaking and leave USA then post stuff from Japans internal forum. seems they used Ultra to hax their forums lots of people whine, USA claims its ingame _____________________________________________________ Why do i even need a sig?
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.09 03:34:00 - [47] Originally by: LordZer00 Absurd arguement... and of course, flawed logic. If you want to "imagine".. Imagine if I could fit a 'module' on my car that drained your cars gas tank... (Nos) OR... Imagine if every Allied or Axis soldier had endless supplies of clones and thus never really died.... Or..... Don't try to justify your whining with "if this was the real world" arguements, it doesn't work. "Imagine if Eve didn't exist, and we all had to get real lives" Jeez no need to be a wet blanket just trying to bring a little funny out of the allmighty local Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
Benglada Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.01.09 03:42:00 - [48] Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe Originally by: Splagada or if our french army logs off when germans invades paris ! oh wait... rofl win --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends. Sig By Ortos
Tasuric Orka Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 03:43:00 - [49] They can nerf local when they give us a decent "radar" type system, and alliance controlled gate guns and so forth, untill then.. noooo thankyou. Originally by: Deja Thoris The dead horse has now been flogged into puree.
Vyger Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 13:48:00 - [50] Well my boss isn't showing up on Local right now so I'll continue mining these forums

Naran Darkmood Gallente	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:18:00 - [51] Originally by: Xaintrix He already knew Judas was -10, but accepted his fate when he got ganked and just played the game. As it is, he got promoted into ISD and just does content now with the Aurora folks every now and then. People say it's a myth, but every now and then you can see their handiwork in local. "And lo did he come forth from 0.0 bearing a BPO in each hand..." So anyone else see the burning lump of omber in field 9-6? ROFL I saw the Burning Omber! Originally by: Jiekon From what i`m aware of, reading the game rules, it's not against any rules to mine
Teinyhr Minmatar United Systems Navy	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:37:00 - [52] Waah sob local waah waah sob sob. Local is fine as it is. As everyone knows, dying hurts in EVE. So it's nice to have some forewarning if your wartargets could possibly be camping your station or local gates when you simply just cannot lose ships because you're too broke to get a new one. Or have valuable stuff to transfer or damn expensive implants. ------------------- Originally by: Smagd Besides, specialization is for insects.
Iyanah Minmatar Mining Munitions and Mayhem	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:12:00 - [53] Originally by: Portios Smith Originally by: Jim McGregor Without local, travelling in space would be like wearing a blindfold in the middle of a war zone... Ship sensors (scanning) are suposed to be your eyes in space, not some chat window. its lame and you know it if in a real ship, you had your ship's scanner going, it would see the other ships, and display a list, and give you the option of communicating with these ships... ...wait. that sounds like local chat. do aircraft talk to the ground to get updates on thier and other plane's positions? yes. do they talk to eachother. yes. to soldiers communicate to one another. yes. can these communications be intercepted. yes. local represents these things. it would make no sense if you couldn't talk to anyone. ========================================== Iy
Trojanman190 Caldari Entropy Tech. Blood Raiders Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:39:00 - [54] Pirating would be lame if you had to scan every single system you come across from top to bottom only to find nothing inside. Local is perfectly legit... when you use a stargate, it keeps track of who came in. Also, you htink logoff tactics suck ass now? Just wait until there is no local... then you will spend 10 minutes saying "crap where is his next ss, i thought we had him! Oh... he logged 10 minutes ago." How the heck is that any kind of fun? Local is not realistic, but neither are turrets that have to 'track' stationary targets and max speeds in a frictionless environment. Removing local would promote logoffs, a tactic you all seem to complain about quite a bit.
Soraya Kha'marr Amarr Gun Metal Priests Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:46:00 - [55] If local existed in real life... ... the US would have won in 'Nam! ... WW1 and ultimately WW2 would have been avoided because the assassins were spotted in local and the Archduke Franz-Ferdinand loggofskied. ... 9/11 would never have happened! ... etc. Beware: Sig Ahead! This space is mine, mine alone!!!oneoneelev
Ernest Graefenberg Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:54:00 - [56] The entire concept of the gloryhole would be ruined.
Razin	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:57:00 - [57] Originally by: Iyanah if in a real ship, you had your ship's scanner going, it would see the other ships, and display a list, and give you the option of communicating with these ships... ...wait. that sounds like local chat. Wrong, that sounds like the Overview. ...
Khes	Posted - 2007.01.09 16:25:00 - [58] Originally by: Razin Originally by: Iyanah if in a real ship, you had your ship's scanner going, it would see the other ships, and display a list, and give you the option of communicating with these ships... ...wait. that sounds like local chat. Wrong, that sounds like the Overview. Sounds to me like a combo of local and Overview. Local that has system wide range, and Overview that shows a list of ships.
Khes	Posted - 2007.01.09 16:25:00 - [59] Originally by: Razin Originally by: Iyanah if in a real ship, you had your ship's scanner going, it would see the other ships, and display a list, and give you the option of communicating with these ships... ...wait. that sounds like local chat. Wrong, that sounds like the Overview. Sounds to me like a combo of local and Overview. Local that has system wide range, and Overview that shows a list of ships.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.09 18:05:00 - [60] Originally by: Ernest Graefenberg The entire concept of the gloryhole would be ruined. and for those that don't know Linkage Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin

Sorela Gallente	Posted - 2007.01.09 18:33:00 - [61] Pfft real life already has local. How do you think Sam always knows who has a gou'ald parasite? Noob!
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.09 18:37:00 - [62] Quote: "Imagine if Eve didn't exist, and we all had to get real lives" No sir, I don't like it... Building the homestead
Becham Templars of Space CORE.	Posted - 2007.01.09 19:23:00 - [63] Chuck Norris doesn't show up in local.
Emperor D'Hoffryn No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.01.09 20:29:00 - [64] Good stuff The game is not yet ready to get rid of local, other stuff must be added first. but I think it needs to be done. If I jump into system in a fast ship, immediately warp to a belt despite UI lag, and magically knew which belt to warp to, I cannot get there before a battleship warps out. All he has to do is keep an eye on local. despite this, last night, 5 out of 6 people logged immediately upon my entry. I found the belt one logged from, and sat there, they logged in, then logged out before they warped back to the belt, so never came back, and now never will. One way or another, something needs to be fixed. Originally by: Tuxford Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.09 21:16:00 - [65] Originally by: Becham Chuck Norris doesn't show up in local. Thats because Chuck Norris always spawns on top of you (he can blow up your ship and pod before the system even realizes he jumped in (that would be of course if he even needed to jump in and if the system could even comprehend the existence of chuck norris)) Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
blanked Caldari Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.	Posted - 2007.01.09 21:24:00 - [66] If local was added to real life TomB would be convicted of rape. No longer would his tactic of simply proclaiming it was "suprise sex" would work. Eve would cease to exist without TomB's leet Dev ability. Local is, therefore, bad. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
Volatar AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.01.09 21:28:00 - [67] Originally by: Sorela How do you think Sam always knows who has a gou'ald parasite? HAX! ...or a scanner :P ---
Amarria Lightwielder N.A.G.A Corporation	Posted - 2007.01.09 21:43:00 - [68] I'm not gonna read this entire topic, I'm just gonna state my opinion (yet again) on this topic. This isn't medieval times, the technology present is miles and miles ahead of even our times, not to speak of the trojans or ww2. If you want to compare it to something take this: Everyone in a system is linked to the stargates in a network, when someone jumps trough you get added to a list (local) by the stargate you jumped into. Remember the stargate de-moleculesizes you in order to send you trough, so there's nothing you can hide about your identity, it can seek out your DNA if it wanted to. The stargate network is not owned by players, and it's not owned by you. Deal with it, local stays how it is - -- Sound in EVE
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.09 21:45:00 - [69] Originally by: Amarria Lightwielder I'm not gonna read this entire topic, I'm just gonna state my opinion (yet again) on this topic. This isn't medieval times, the technology present is miles and miles ahead of even our times, not to speak of the trojans or ww2. If you want to compare it to something take this: Everyone in a system is linked to the stargates in a network, when someone jumps trough you get added to a list (local) by the stargate you jumped into. Remember the stargate de-moleculesizes you in order to send you trough, so there's nothing you can hide about your identity, it can seek out your DNA if it wanted to. The stargate network is not owned by players, and it's not owned by you. Deal with it, local stays how it is Why didn't you read the whole thread there was much funny to be had I might as well have just made a post that said local is ghey Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
Lord Dynastron Mystical Knights	Posted - 2007.01.09 21:47:00 - [70] Originally by: hydraSlav Originally by: Seroster D-Day, the Allied blob would be immediately detected and the German army would logoffski. Haha, that was the exact same thing that i thought about after reading the OP Ann Frank would not have made it as long as she did.

Daggiz Cronus Hunters Incorporated	Posted - 2007.01.09 21:57:00 - [71] Edited by: Daggiz on 09/01/2007 21:56:38 In the spirit of the OP: Sir Francis Drake would never had as many ship kills as all the Spanish would have logged when he entered. Ollie North would been exposed waaay earlier as he entered into Iran local. Noriega* would have logged when US Marines landed in Panama. The Golden Horde would jump local to 10,000 and everyone in the system would run and hide afraid to come out and fight. James Bond would never be able to sneak into Spectre's secret bases. quite funny really. *off topic here, but unbelievably he is "scheduled" for release this year...I feel really old all of a sudden. I need a hug.
Volatar AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.01.09 21:58:00 - [72] George Washinton would not have crossed the deleware so easily ---
Orsus Thrace	Posted - 2007.01.09 23:07:00 - [73] There would be no question about the Crash at Roswell -- The locals would have just checked local. No harm no foul if local read like this: Weather balloon 1 Air Force USA But if it read like this...: Almond Eyes The Greys Little Green Men Inc.
Portios Smith Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2007.01.09 23:58:00 - [74] Originally by: Iyanah Originally by: Portios Smith Originally by: Jim McGregor Without local, travelling in space would be like wearing a blindfold in the middle of a war zone... Ship sensors (scanning) are suposed to be your eyes in space, not some chat window. its lame and you know it if in a real ship, you had your ship's scanner going, it would see the other ships, and display a list, and give you the option of communicating with these ships... ...wait. that sounds like local chat. do aircraft talk to the ground to get updates on thier and other plane's positions? yes. do they talk to eachother. yes. to soldiers communicate to one another. yes. can these communications be intercepted. yes. local represents these things. it would make no sense if you couldn't talk to anyone. Local has no limitations, scanners do. The power of local is lame, try and justify it all you want but it is a lame means to get instant intel on every pilot on a system. by far the worst feature of EVE IMHO Sig removed does not contain your name, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Yendri Perkone	Posted - 2007.01.10 00:37:00 - [75] Originally by: Ernest Graefenberg The entire concept of the gloryhole would be ruined. splutters You owe me a new graphics tablet and assorted other things on my desk, as I was sipping a drink as I read the thread. well done goes to clean up


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