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Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.08 18:48:00 - [1] All sneak attacks would fail. EX: The Famous act of deception the Trojan Horse. Trojan Horse Enters Troy Citizens notice local jumps by 3000 Soldiers Torch the horse then Log Off Any other examples from fiction or history that gets f'd up by local are welcome Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
Seroster ironwood ink	Posted - 2007.01.08 18:50:00 - [2] D-Day, the Allied blob would be immediately detected and the German army would logoffski.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.01.08 18:51:00 - [3] Without local, travelling in space would be like wearing a blindfold in the middle of a war zone... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:06:00 - [4] Originally by: Jim McGregor Without local, travelling in space would be like wearing a blindfold in the middle of a war zone... In SWG there was no local it was called spatial. I was an overt rebel (overt meaning I can be shot at by enemy imperials) Instead we had a little radar circle in the left hand corner that would show friendlies as purple, Neutrals/Covert Imperials as blue (smurfs), and Overt Imperials as Red circles. It worked fine especially when I would go on suicide runs in enemy territory (pre jedi) it got a substantially more difficult when Jedi were immune to my damage(Master Rifleman) and could kill me while running at mach 5 Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:08:00 - [5] Local is the equivelant of having a transponder in your ship. <-----------> MMORPG == Massively Moronic Online Raw Powergaming Grief fests.... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=426616 LowSec != NoSec
Portios Smith Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:10:00 - [6] Originally by: Jim McGregor Without local, travelling in space would be like wearing a blindfold in the middle of a war zone... Ship sensors (scanning) are suposed to be your eyes in space, not some chat window. its lame and you know it Sig removed does not contain your name, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:10:00 - [7] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 08/01/2007 19:12:41 Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Instead we had a little radar circle in the left hand corner that would show friendlies as purple, Neutrals/Covert Imperials as blue (smurfs), and Overt Imperials as Red circles. Originally by: Portius Smith Ship sensors (scanning) are suposed to be your eyes in space, not some chat window. its lame and you know it Well, I guess local could be replaced with a radar, but then you would not only know the amount of people in the system, you would also know their location. And people already think local gives too much info. :) Unless you make it kind of short ranged, but then we have the debate what a decent range is... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:13:00 - [8] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Originally by: Jim McGregor Without local, travelling in space would be like wearing a blindfold in the middle of a war zone... In SWG there was no local it was called spatial. I was an overt rebel (overt meaning I can be shot at by enemy imperials) Instead we had a little radar circle in the left hand corner that would show friendlies as purple, Neutrals/Covert Imperials as blue (smurfs), and Overt Imperials as Red circles. It worked fine especially when I would go on suicide runs in enemy territory (pre jedi) it got a substantially more difficult when Jedi were immune to my damage(Master Rifleman) and could kill me while running at mach 5 Well, I guess local could be replaced with a radar, but then you would not only know the amount of people in the system, you would also know their location. And people already think local gives too much info. :) Radar would make cloak ganking more intersting though Maybe a sustained radar pulse system to detect incomming ships. It would require a skill to increase the pulse rate but at lvl 1 It takes 1 minute to get feedback from a pulse and at lvl 5 it will take 40 seconds or something like that Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
Bastogne Caldari Merch Industrial	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:15:00 - [9] Edited by: Bastogne on 08/01/2007 19:12:04 Local is fine as it is.
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Seroster D-Day, the Allied blob would be immediately detected and the German army would logoffski. ------ relaxed corp looking for members

Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:20:00 - [11] this went waaaaay off topic. Now back to more local throughout history. Paul Revere wouldn't be in the history books simply because thanks to local the americans allready knew that the British were comming. Harriet Tubman would've been caught by slave hunters because "Masa" noticed that local was down 1 Pearl Harbor would've been a failed attack as the naval base attendants would've logged. (turn this into a conspiracy post and die I'm not putting on that tinfoil hat again) Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
Portios Smith Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:25:00 - [12] Edited by: Portios Smith on 08/01/2007 19:22:38 Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 08/01/2007 19:08:30 Originally by: Portios Smith Ship sensors (scanning) are suposed to be your eyes in space, not some chat window. its lame and you know it Well, I guess local could be replaced with a radar, but then you would not only know the amount of people in the system, you would also know their location. And people already think local gives too much info. :) scanner and scan probes as they are now with their limitations should be your only means of finding weather other ships are in system, the only way I can think of a player entering forced local chat is when he docks because the docking officials anounce it to the entire system People whine about cover-ops ships left cloacked for ever in some system and there is nothing that can be done about it. the fact is you shouldn't even know there is one out there! Is that lame local chat window. May be MSN is so powerfull in the future that in EVE every one gets signed on by force. Local as a means of determining who is in a system is probably the worst feature of EVE. Sig removed does not contain your name, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
ollobrains Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:28:00 - [13] interesting All posts made by myself represent my personal opinion only - they do not represent the rest of the privateer alliacne unless they decide to agree with what im saying
Beef Hardslab The 5 Amigo's LLC.	Posted - 2007.01.08 19:29:00 - [14] I want my own local window... Walk into a bar - **** there's an ex-girlfriend, time for a different bar. Go to a concert - hey there's some old buddies from highschool, gotta find 'em. At work - damn the boss just entered the building, better watch my surfing.
Gryphin Rambaldi Gallente	Posted - 2007.01.08 20:07:00 - [15] Rome: Brutus pops up in local. Caesar logoffskis. Nero checks Details on everyone, finding all the Christians. Cov Ops Scanners are deployed en masse. Constantine gets ganked at the gate. Right before he gets podded, bio changes to "NAP'ed with HTA (Holy Trinity Alliance)" America: Secret Service notices a gate activation. John WBooth pops up in local, but is in a Recon and slips past the gatecamp. Lincoln logoffskis. Convoy with VIP Kennedy undocks, and heads towards gate. Notices AFTER he undocks that 3 -10's from GKS (Grassy Knoll Snipers) are in local. Curses the 20 second redock timer as he gets podded. Greece: Spartans leave 10 in local TRM-P01E. Persians fly in 500 to try to pop the POS's that are coming out of reinforced. Spartans logon trap the dreads. Egypt: Pharaoh's EPeen corp is gatecamping bottleneck system D3N-1L3. They fail to notice that one of the cynos is hostile. Suddenly Moses pops up in local, Moses' Staff shows up on the scanner, and the node crashes from the killmails.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.08 20:10:00 - [16] ^ haha that is all made of win Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
AshrakTheWhite Red Wrath Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.01.08 20:23:00 - [17] Originally by: Gryphin Rambaldi Rome: Brutus pops up in local. Caesar logoffskis. Nero checks Details on everyone, finding all the Christians. Cov Ops Scanners are deployed en masse. Constantine gets ganked at the gate. Right before he gets podded, bio changes to "NAP'ed with HTA (Holy Trinity Alliance)" America: Secret Service notices a gate activation. John WBooth pops up in local, but is in a Recon and slips past the gatecamp. Lincoln logoffskis. Convoy with VIP Kennedy undocks, and heads towards gate. Notices AFTER he undocks that 3 -10's from GKS (Grassy Knoll Snipers) are in local. Curses the 20 second redock timer as he gets podded. Greece: Spartans leave 10 in local TRM-P01E. Persians fly in 500 to try to pop the POS's that are coming out of reinforced. Spartans logon trap the dreads. Egypt: Pharaoh's EPeen corp is gatecamping bottleneck system D3N-1L3. They fail to notice that one of the cynos is hostile. Suddenly Moses pops up in local, Moses' Staff shows up on the scanner, and the node crashes from the killmails. ROFL
sandshark	Posted - 2007.01.08 20:29:00 - [18] Edited by: sandshark on 08/01/2007 20:26:34 WWII Japanese "pvpers" notice "Enola G.ay" of "US Airforce" corp entered Hiroshima local, They run to fortress (pos) or quickly log off to log back in when the radiation is gone... Martin Luther King, Jr. Assasin entered Memphis local. After the famous words "I have a dream", he would of said that he couldn't remember what it was exactly and would have safespotted.
Daelmon Minmatar Ascent of Ages R i s e	Posted - 2007.01.08 20:47:00 - [19] Local is horrible and needs to be removed as a scouting tool.
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.01.08 20:59:00 - [20] Edited by: Roy Batty68 on 08/01/2007 20:56:15 LANDO - We've got to be able to get some kind of a reading on that shield, up or down. Well, how could they be jamming us if they don't know if we're coming. LANDO - Break off the attack! The shield is still up. RED LEADER - I get no reading. Are you sure? LANDO - Pull up! All craft pull up! ACKBAR - Take evasive action! Green Group, stick close to holding sector MV-7. CONTROLLER - Admiral, we have enemy ships in sector 47. ACKBAR - It's a trap! ----------- with Local: LANDO - 300 in local! ACKBAR - It's a trap! LANDO - Imperial blob! Control Quuuuue... ------------------- ... [OK] ... zOMG!

Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:10:00 - [21] or if our french army logs off when germans invades paris ! oh wait... ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Kung Zao	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:11:00 - [22] CCP should make it so you dont appear in local unless you talk. Also they should seed a new module, or even a missile/ammo type that tags targets. Basically have people guard the gates, lock, shoot - when hit target appears in local. That'd be fair in my opinion since alert players have a way to protect themselves provided they play together, which is how it should be.
Xaintrix The Shadow Order Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:23:00 - [23] Originally by: Gryphin Rambaldi Rome: Egypt: Pharaoh's EPeen corp is gatecamping bottleneck system D3N-1L3. They fail to notice that one of the cynos is hostile. Suddenly Moses pops up in local, Moses' Staff shows up on the scanner, and the node crashes from the killmails. You win Eve. This is +1 over the "Error" thread. Thanks for brightening my work day.
Jerick Ludhowe Internet Tough Guys Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:32:00 - [24] Originally by: Splagada or if our french army logs off when germans invades paris ! oh wait... rofl
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:38:00 - [25] Please refrain from the french bashing <--- Not french btw Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:40:00 - [26] i am French and hopefully joke with it :D sometimes our country screwed up, rest of the time and for many other things i'm very proud of it :) ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Weirda Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:41:00 - [27] Originally by: Portios Smith the only way I can think of a player entering forced local chat is when he docks because the docking officials anounce it to the entire system ... Local as a means of determining who is in a system is probably the worst feature of EVE. Weirda always thought that all the people who work in those gate is who announce "arrival" to system. That would be one HELL of energy jump in system whenever that thing fire anyways. Local is double edge sword. would be nice that it don't provide all that intel, but at the same time - there is social aspect to game that would be lost. granted that aspect already lost to most people after they in eve for little while (replaced by corp/alliance/friends)... some of initial friend in game (down in lowsec) would have never been met/made had there been no local. __ Weirda Join QotSA
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:42:00 - [28] Edited by: Ithildin on 08/01/2007 21:41:26 Originally by: Seroster D-Day, the Allied blob would be immediately detected and the German army would logoffski. D-Day is a classical example of near-D/T fleet movement, obviously! Originally by: Gryphin Rambaldi Rome: Brutus pops up in local. Caesar logoffskis. The Ubiqus Seraph (sp?) incident is more like it. Remember, Brutus was part of Ceasar's corp! - EVE is sick.
smashsmash	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:54:00 - [29] i ignore local most of the time. sometimes i wish i could leave it since it flashes and annoys me. i have a "it's a piece of crap but its paid for" bumper sticker on my ship so i don't really need a heads up about evil pirates. ---- Would you like some cries with your whaaamburger?
Zardenim	Posted - 2007.01.08 21:56:00 - [30] Maybe if local just displayed the number of people and the rest is up to the pilot's scanning capabilities. In lowsec anyways. Like they don't have enough tracking eq to provide full details on everyone.



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