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Blitz'Krieg Caldari SkyMarshal Logistics	Posted - 2007.01.09 13:50:00 - [1] Edited by: Blitz''Krieg on 09/01/2007 13:50:32 > 2007.01.09 13:36:08 Notify The station ISS Marginis has been captured by Infinity Enterprises corporation! This confirmed, and could we have a lowdown on how the battle went down? Enter the ONE million for ONE billion lottery. details in bio or Linkage
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.01.09 13:52:00 - [2] who are they? just curious, new to all this political stuff However. when i joined eve, it was after seeing a video of players building the first starbase, and all the details about this fantastic achievement this starbase was ISS Marginis... and well if it is actually true it changed hands, thats a big page of history turning. i just hope ISS lives through this. I wonder how many alliance pilots at war with them learnt 0.0 ropes in ISS stations, thanks to their public access ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Blitz'Krieg Caldari SkyMarshal Logistics	Posted - 2007.01.09 13:54:00 - [3] they are IAC (Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate) Enter the ONE million for ONE billion lottery. details in bio or Linkage
Anna Neura D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.01.09 13:55:00 - [4] poor ISS :'(
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:01:00 - [5] Now how stupid do the ISS/KIA negotiation team look. I told you so...
Commander Thrawn Tarnak inc.	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:03:00 - [6] lol
xh'duality Caldari Caldari Luftwaffe Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:05:00 - [7] Edited by: xh''duality on 09/01/2007 14:02:04 It was a hard and long fight. Bluttlet's only flying one way. Station just didnt wonna give up wile JNR's ego was there trying to Conquer it. Instea a CARA got the finlay blow --------------------------------------------------- It take's 10 finger's for to smacktalk and ONLY ONE TO WIN [The all mighty "I WIN BOTTON"]
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:06:00 - [8] This isn't an alliance announcement in regards to IAC or our allies move to take this station however I will provide information pertaining to station services whilst under the control of IAC. - IAC will NOT allow docking of known enemies of this campaign - IAC will NOT allow docking of those who actively shoot IAC or neutrals in our constellation in the past - IAC WILL allow docking by ALL other EVE entities For those who can dock, all station services will remain open, except jump clones which will be made available should the station remain in our control. In the short term, docking will be free, until the station can be moved to the correct IAC holding corp under which time they will be set in-line with IAC's current stations fees. All original office leases in KDF rented by entities that have nothing to do with this campain will remain valid. If circumstances change, you will be contacted. As this war is most likely far from over, solar systems around the outpost are under NBSI rules. IAC will resume NRDS as soon as it is reasonably possible. Should ownership of the station change again (we're expecting it), or circumstances change, IAC will inform the greater public. Enjoy the free beer! :) -n sx
THX 1138 D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:12:00 - [9] Edited by: THX 1138 on 09/01/2007 14:13:58 double post hax ----- Individuality is underrated
Metacannibal Gekidoku	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:12:00 - [10] nice to see that IAC/D2/RAGOON are using the opportunity to make isk and get experience in coordinating each others efforts before they do the "great push"
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:13:00 - [11] Originally by: Shin Ra Now how stupid do the ISS/KIA negotiation team look. I told you so... Heh, well this is not over yet. But I thought the same back when ISS and KIA acted all mighty and suggesting IAC should crawl back to the table.
THX 1138 D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:16:00 - [12] This really is sad. I always liked what ISS was trying to do but they have clearly spread themselves way too thin across the map. I hope you guys can recover - Cassini was a constant thorn in your side and frankly you were better without it. But Marginis was the flagship. Edit: Well, IAC are offering free beer so it's maybe not as sad as I first thought ----- Individuality is underrated
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:39:00 - [13] This happens when you get me banned ____________
Mandrake Knight F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:42:00 - [14] DEATH TO ISS LONG LIVE THE NORTH ----------------------------- Excuse me, I have to pew pew.
Luthien Firefoot Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:44:00 - [15] ConGrolschulations IAC...
patteSatan Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:48:00 - [16] Originally by: maGz This happens when you get me banned Hmmm, get banned more often, pls!!!! Congrats IAC.
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:58:00 - [17] /signed I approve this message! New NPC NPC Market
DeckardIRL Gallente Bravehearts Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:59:00 - [18] Seems the offer Count TeSassine made a week or so ago and was too little too late. It was seen for what it was and maybe if he offered Tyrrax an Imp Apoc right at the start of this campaign like I suggested he might still have ISS Marginis (the shining star off ISS, their first outpost, a place that I visited many times in my IAC days). Word was ISS were on their own and it was only a matter of time. Kudos to IAC who held firm at the start of the campaign under onslaught to turn it around to this current stage. Deck _____________________________________________ Watchin' the Game.... Havin' a Bud.... I shoot better on Bud..... Eve Info- All you need to know
Tjakka KIA Corp	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:04:00 - [19] Edited by: Tjakka on 09/01/2007 15:01:10 Originally by: Shin Ra Now how stupid do the ISS/KIA negotiation team look. I told you so... umm since wenn do kia have anything to do with ISS? we have never been hired by em afaik. and what is your intrest wtih KIA you dont have a hard enough job to fake some pictures? PS last time i checked we wre killing ISS so dunno what peace with them has anything to do with us
Tjakka KIA Corp	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Fred0 Heh, well this is not over yet. But I thought the same back when ISS and KIA acted all mighty and suggesting IAC should crawl back to the table.[/quote Can i NAP with your allaince too i wanna be 101th on the list pls my favorite spot
Muadeeb Ousil Minmatar Office linebackers Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:07:00 - [21] Congrats IAC. Off course as an entity ISS won't die, they real strength of ISS in terms of manpower is tucked away down in Tenerifs and ever since they moved manpower down there the outposts at KDF and ZXIC have always had a limited future. TBH they do not deserve to die, however if i was a shareholder i certainly would be looking for a management review. ISS needs to move back to what it was and always should be. A strong public industrial Alliance. Count Tess do whats best for ISS, if that means stepping down step down. While ISS maintained the image of being a public industrial Alliance they were neutral to all. The taking of Trust outpost set them down a rocky road which has lead them to where they are today, on the way to their current position they got a taste for the things that took away their neutrality - Large Scale Alliance Warfare - whether for good or bad. You have to step away from that, remember your strengths not your current failures. Most importantly remember your neighbours first and formost. They have to accept you under a flag of faith, your part in the seige of IAC first time around was a break of that trust, this has been the result. D2 secured its own border up north because it was no longer sure it could trust your neutrality. There was a distinct possibility you could be used as a staging point for invasion from another force and now IAC down south for that very same reason has taken control and a touch of revenge it felt it was due for several instances of that breakdown in trust over 6 months. 1 Year ago BOB themselves removed your PoS from their lands for that very same reason, history is repeating itself. You have Providence - work with your neighbours there (i think CVA/UK balancing act might need some loving at some point if your not careful). And you have your own corner of the world at Tenerifs which has semi protection from LV. Enjoy your remaining space i honestly do hope you keep it.
Hudsonn Minmatar FireTech Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:14:00 - [22] Good work to all involved. Not over by a long shot though. --Imperium--
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:18:00 - [23] I honestly don't fault the ISS ideology, they achieved what they set out to achieve and they did something that no-one else did. The problem is partly down to casting their net too far and too wide, but that's not it. The problem was that they allowed political gangrene to set in; and rather than sever the affected limb, they only treated the wound. By the time that anyone realised the blood was poisoned, it was too late. Passing intel between hostile entities, taking questionable ownership of outposts, providing safe harbour for those who asked first, some pilots firing on neutrals, and allowing some members to make very strong/wrong statements time and time again on the forums; are some of the elements of this rot. Whilst ISS have been open about this and have tried to stop it; they are examples of how political and mortal ISS actually is, regardless of them achieving something that no-one else had. On a personal level, I knew ISS were doomed when Butter Dog was continually allowed back into ISS; culminating with his startling public attack on MC/ISS/IAC. I think any bridges that ISS had up until that point, had been well and truly burnt. It's not the fact that someone is lying, but the tarnish that someone had the potential to lie; that does the damage. In my opinion, ISS needed to be regionally divided. ISS 'Pure Blind' cannot be as easily accused of passing intel to ISS 'Providence'; as has been mentioned in the past. ISS 'Providence' could negotiate favourable terms with neighbouring alliances, and so on. Yes, this would make ISS a more political entity, but each element would fit better within its geography; than hoping a 'catch all' alliance could. ISS could still maintain its Navy, or allow for each element to maintain its own fighting force. I am not saying that loosing two outposts is the end for ISS. But they will have to take rapid and severe action in order to prevent the situation getting worse; and I don't mean in terms of military action. And being completely honest, I will be sad to see them go; if indeed this is the end of them. Oh, and please take this as my personal and official opinion of this all, not of my corporation or alliance. I am sure people will accuse me of getting facts wrong, or of having favouritism. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Itaro Flagg The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.09 16:06:00 - [24] Originally by: maGz This happens when you get me banned Indeed. The fate of ISS was sealed the moment you got maGz banned. Everything since that point was inevitable.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.09 16:16:00 - [25] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 09/01/2007 16:15:45 So is ISS going to try to actually take the station back once the bandwagon falls apart, or are they going to give up right now and not even try? I sense a lack of balls. Perhaps if it was ISS's money, rather than shareholders', they might care a bit more. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Alex Under Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.09 16:27:00 - [26] Congrats IAC for taking the station. Glad to see you've come out on top. Now where our kegs of Ale? To ISS - hopefully you have learned from this experience and will continue on and persevere. I have utmost respect for the amount of dedication you show in the game. Unfortunately, this is what happens when a self-proclaimed neutral entity tries to play the political game. "...Amateurs do it until they get it right, Professionals do it until they can't get it wrong..."
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.01.09 16:28:00 - [27] Edited by: Splagada on 09/01/2007 16:24:57 any "politics for dummies" sumup somewhere? i see a lot of stuff there and well what happened, any summary exists? didnt know iss had that many enemies is this a isk thing or did they do something to **** off that many people ? just curious, living around catch/providence and well never had a prob with them. nyphur and co were always nice, at least to us non-factors, helping and generally fun (even found french buddies in trantor corp). but im not much into groups/politics so that could be why any info or links about what happened to set all on fire like this? ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Dr Ming Mindworks	Posted - 2007.01.09 16:34:00 - [28] How did the battle for ZXIC go? I saw a bunch of ships destroyed there on the map.
patteSatan Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.09 16:40:00 - [29] Originally by: FireFoxx80 Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 09/01/2007 15:16:29 Edit: On the other hand, ISS cannot be held entirely accountable. Their war with IAC is down to IAC believing them to be 'too close' I don't see where you got that from? My view of it is that the backstabbing ISS did time and time again, and the nonexisting control of ISS pilots is what have brought it to this, alongside with Count's nose up in the air. And, yes, I'mm entitled to write about this, as I was a member of IAC a long time, and was a member when some of those backstabbings occured.
Hehulk Black Sea Industries	Posted - 2007.01.09 17:14:00 - [30] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 09/01/2007 16:15:45 So is ISS going to try to actually take the station back once the bandwagon falls apart, or are they going to give up right now and not even try? I sense a lack of balls. Perhaps if it was ISS's money, rather than shareholders', they might care a bit more. Where have ISS said they won't attempt to re-take marginis? And they do care, otherwise there woudn't have been a defence fleet in ZXIC last night. Further more, you might want to ask the goons if ISS have any military ability these days at all (even if it's not the best in-game). ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it

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