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Bluebear8
Orion Ore International Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Vensa Heckler
Originally by: Ace101
Originally by: solarwinds
Originally by: Dr Ming Is this what happend in ZXIC?
did you include the IAC gang chasing you 3 jumps from ZXIC and that fight?.... oh no.
did anyone say that was the whole footage?..... oh no
Thanks for FRAPS, as I arrived late yesterday and missed that earlier battle. But, as for the second engagement ...
Kudos for ISS Fleet moving so fast away from ZXIC to GE. Probably saved yourself some losses by advancing to the rear (retreat?). You succeeded to evade IAC's BS Fleet, at least for awhile. You even convinced some IAC fleet to slow pursuit under belief you were all running away to Empire.
I believe you Algae, when you say you intended to fight, because I listened during the pursuit while your fleet lined up in GE, turned, and commenced to fight IAC's faster ships on their arrival.
However, by the time my BS caught up and finished an emergency warp back into GE, there wasn't much left of a battle. No FRAPs. :-( By this time, IAC was mostly mopping up the left overs.
Anyways, GF to you all. We hope for less lag next time, and no emergency warps for anyone!
Meanwhile, ISS should not complain about IAC friends being around. We REMEMBER the broken glass from IAC's BOTTLESHOP outpost that ISS took from us in F-4... I REMEMBER a lot of hired gun alliances being around on the ISS side when ISS stole IAC's BOTTLESHOP outpost, and we are still fighting for return of what was taken from us by ISS.
ISS policy of neutrality = pre-emptive strike, succeeded in converting a bit of fun "pew pew" into "pos warz".
It's been a long few weeks (typical protracted pos warfare), but very nice to see the pendulum swing. CHEERS and BEERS!
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xh'duality
Caldari Caldari Luftwaffe Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Algey ISS will cease smack posting in this thread. The simple fact is that we won a battle, however we usually chase off their inty fleets.
It is the first time they've brought out the battleships and not pasted us, which was nice :)
Lets not get into isk measuring. The shareholders have taken quite a hammering from losing these stations, and I don't think they really want to hear about this.
Actualy ur wrong. Reason why we came here and there for some target practice was to keep ya occupied there wile we where killing all mod's on the Offlined pos. and it worked cause we never saw one of ya guys come to it. So all in all we have done yet again some pretty dmg and yes I do have some fraps and pic's to soon
--------------------------------------------------- It take's 10 finger's for to smacktalk and ONLY ONE TO WIN [The all mighty "I WIN BOTTON"] |

BlackHorizon
Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 21:54:00 -
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Edited by: BlackHorizon on 09/01/2007 21:51:06
Originally by: xh'duality
Actualy ur wrong. Reason why we came here and there for some target practice was to keep ya occupied there wile we where killing all mod's on the Offlined pos. and it worked cause we never saw one of ya guys come to it. So all in all we have done yet again some pretty dmg and yes I do have some fraps and pic's to soon
Shhh! 
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shanda captison
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ace101
Originally by: solarwinds
Originally by: Dr Ming Is this what happend in ZXIC?
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0701/iac_0001.wmv
Footage from last nights transpirings, yes.
did you include the IAC gang chasing you 3 jumps from ZXIC and that fight?.... oh no.
No the footage from that fight was pretty boring, i.e my overview lighting up and me warping out at 10% structure then getting killed by a AF at a planet! 
I also missed off the footage of us trapping a IMP gang in a bubble on the F4R gate (comes in after the vid ends) as i couldnt be arsed putting it in as it meant another song. And I didnt intend it to be posted anywhere besides our forum for the AAR hence why its not edited nicely or anything. However i think Tink is working on a fancier version.
The last fight was the best though, we re screaming through systems trying to string your fleet out, you and your flippin 10000km/s crow chasing us! As you started to overtake we were like, "humm ok time to fight"!
Was a lot of fun, gf. 
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 22:02:00 -
[65]
Originally by: jernej
Quote: - IAC will NOT allow docking of known enemies of this campaign - IAC will NOT allow docking of those who actively shoot IAC or neutrals in our constellation in the past
- IAC WILL allow docking by ALL other EVE entities
So we get docking rights ?
BoB are not neutral in IAC space. You've came on raids here before and that sealed the deal long time ago.
Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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Kadarin
Wolfenrecon Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2007.01.09 22:02:00 -
[66]
Congrats to my old corp, INE \o/
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Butter Dog
Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.01.09 22:34:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Butter Dog on 09/01/2007 22:34:15
Originally by: FireFoxx80
On a personal level, I knew ISS were doomed when Butter Dog was continually allowed back into ISS; culminating with his startling public attack on MC/ISS/IAC. I think any bridges that ISS had up until that point, had been well and truly burnt. It's not the fact that someone is lying, but the tarnish that someone had the potential to lie; that does the damage.
This is plain wrong.
I spoke for myself. My attack on MC was 100% personal, nothing whatsoever to do with ISS and certainly not an official standpoint.
ISS only had one official spokesman on the forum, and that was Count. James Lyrus and Nyphur also spoke in an official capacity. I did not.
At the end of the day, this particular forum on eve-o is just an interesting flamefest. Although regular readers of this forum probably think its important and special, 95% of EVE players don't even bother reading it, nor care for its existance. Don't overestimate it.
If you're looking for a reason why ISS failed in this war, its simple: they went for a decapitation of IAC, but their mercs/allies did not have the momentum to carry through the execution. You had a bruised but very angry IAC, and that led directly to what we see now.
PS - not sure who are you referring to with regards to the 'lying' but that was Count, not me. I was completely and utterly exonerated (sp?) in a very public manner. There is not even a hint that I lied, quite the opposite - the problem for ISS and particularly Count was that I told the truth.
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Montaire
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.09 22:44:00 -
[68]
Better learn that what you say when in a corp can affect other people then.
The reason I diddnt root for ISS was you.
When I was asked "what do you think of attacking ISS?" I replied in the possitive because of YOUR posts.
Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 09/01/2007 22:34:15
Originally by: FireFoxx80
On a personal level, I knew ISS were doomed when Butter Dog was continually allowed back into ISS; culminating with his startling public attack on MC/ISS/IAC. I think any bridges that ISS had up until that point, had been well and truly burnt. It's not the fact that someone is lying, but the tarnish that someone had the potential to lie; that does the damage.
This is plain wrong.
I spoke for myself. My attack on MC was 100% personal, nothing whatsoever to do with ISS and certainly not an official standpoint.
ISS only had one official spokesman on the forum, and that was Count. James Lyrus and Nyphur also spoke in an official capacity. I did not.
At the end of the day, this particular forum on eve-o is just an interesting flamefest. Although regular readers of this forum probably think its important and special, 95% of EVE players don't even bother reading it, nor care for its existance. Don't overestimate it.
If you're looking for a reason why ISS failed in this war, its simple: they went for a decapitation of IAC, but their mercs/allies did not have the momentum to carry through the execution. You had a bruised but very angry IAC, and that led directly to what we see now.
PS - not sure who are you referring to with regards to the 'lying' but that was Count, not me. I was completely and utterly exonerated (sp?) in a very public manner. There is not even a hint that I lied, quite the opposite - the problem for ISS and particularly Count was that I told the truth.
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Butter Dog
Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.01.09 22:51:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Montaire Better learn that what you say when in a corp can affect other people then.
The reason I diddnt root for ISS was you.
When I was asked "what do you think of attacking ISS?" I replied in the possitive because of YOUR posts.
Well, without meaning to be at all disrepsectful: so what?
This is not a beauty parade. I don't care if you agree or disagree with what I am saying or how I say it. Its a discussion forum. Don't agree? Engage in debate.
You are entitled to disagree with me, even form an opinion based on what I say. But here is a simple fact: I spoke for myself, not ISS. If you can't seperate the two things in your mind, thats not my problem.
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Montaire
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.09 22:56:00 -
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What people say shapes opinion. What you said shaped my opinion of ISS.
Originally by: Butter Dog
This is not a beauty parade. I don't care if you agree or disagree with what I am saying or how I say it. Its a discussion forum. Don't agree? Engage in debate.
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Butter Dog
Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:00:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Montaire What people say shapes opinion. What you said shaped my opinion of ISS.
I honestly do not care in the slightest.
I'm flattered that you think I somehow 'am' ISS. Its a little delusional, but I'll take it as a warped compliment. Thank you.
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:01:00 -
[72]
got to love all this e-thungin.
For your tech 2 needs www.evetrust.com
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Montaire
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:05:00 -
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I think perhaps you mis understand. What Im trying to say is that the things you wrote negativly impacted ISS.
Not because you ARE ISS, not because you represent them.
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Montaire What people say shapes opinion. What you said shaped my opinion of ISS.
I honestly do not care in the slightest.
I'm flattered that you think I somehow 'am' ISS. Its a little delusional, but I'll take it as a warped compliment. Thank you.
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:08:00 -
[74]
Free Beer???? 
ohh wait.. umm can you leave some outside so i can pick it up  -----------------------------------------------
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Youlla
Caldari ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:36:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Youlla on 09/01/2007 23:33:30
Originally by: shanda captison
The last fight was the best though, we re screaming through systems trying to string your fleet out, you and your flippin 10000km/s crow chasing us! As you started to overtake we were like, "humm ok time to fight"!
Was a lot of fun, gf. 
Yeah, that last fight was a lot of fun. Caught us a little off guard, with 1/2 of our fleet in KDF trying to grab some stuff from Marginis before withdrawing for the evening.
Very laggy though. When the real fighting started in GE, FC was calling targets that didn't appear on my screen or in my overview, and when I went down at the end of the fight, my EVE client just showed me sitting there at 0 hull for like 10 minutes.
GF to the IAC guys. Lets have more of those.
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w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:41:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Montaire Better learn that what you say when in a corp can affect other people then.
The reason I diddnt root for ISS was you.
When I was asked "what do you think of attacking ISS?" I replied in the possitive because of YOUR posts.
Well, without meaning to be at all disrepsectful: so what?
This is not a beauty parade. I don't care if you agree or disagree with what I am saying or how I say it.
Your actions reflect on your corp.
You obviously have no respect of concern for your corp members, as your actions directly effected them.
I agree with Montaire, ISS had my vote.... till you started speaking.
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Dark Shikari
What single item is larger than a jetcan?
My ego?
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Jnr Rau
The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: xh'duality Edited by: xh''duality on 09/01/2007 14:02:04 It was a hard and long fight. Bluttlet's only flying one way. Station just didnt wonna give up wile JNR's ego was there trying to Conquer it. Instea a CARA got the finlay blow
Awe.... nsx's SMS to me could have been more specific... :P
Great showing by IAC and <3 to all our friends...
May many more victories lie in our destiny
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:48:00 -
[78]
YARRR!
great work, IAC 
- Igneus Auctorita Video - |

Tarsha Listur
Glamour Bunnies Glamour Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Montaire Better learn that what you say when in a corp can affect other people then.
The reason I diddnt root for ISS was you.
truth
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 00:27:00 -
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That'd explain the 'clone move' email I guess.
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Orochimaru
Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 05:26:00 -
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Opps I didn't mean to take the station all I did was shoot at it once "major epeen"
Orochimaru [Infinity Enterprises] Director of PEW PEW
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IntegralHellsing
Gallente The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2007.01.10 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Orochimaru Opps I didn't mean to take the station all I did was shoot at it once "major epeen"
Orochimaru sama! you've got the biggest epeen i've ever seen! ------------------------------
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patteSatan
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.10 09:15:00 -
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I don't know what has happened to you Butter Dog, and I don't know if I even like it, but you write more truthful things now, than you did before.
And, you do write now as a player towards other players, not as it was before (I mean, what you wrote was easily [mis]understood as ISS standings in the matter at hand)
I still dont like the way you can bend words and actions, but its prolly just me...
And cheers again IAC, pls leave some beers for me in Doril, I might need them when killing Tyrell.
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U Fester
Amarr Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Youlla Yeah, that last fight was a lot of fun. Caught us a little off guard, with 1/2 of our fleet in KDF trying to grab some stuff from Marginis before withdrawing for the evening.
Very laggy though. When the real fighting started in GE, FC was calling targets that didn't appear on my screen or in my overview, and when I went down at the end of the fight, my EVE client just showed me sitting there at 0 hull for like 10 minutes.
GF to the IAC guys. Lets have more of those.
I have to agree on all three: Was a good fight, had fun and the LAG was unbelievable. We had several members drop from the raid becuase of the lag was so bad. On one gate I warped through, waited 5 minutes for lag and then I was in a pod. Two minutes of lag later I had a new clone 
Nothing new for me being in a podded, I just preffer to actual see me getting podded 
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.10 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: ScreamingLord Sutch It's reference to one of the threads made by KiaEddz imploring IAC to negotiate with ISS and make friends.
For the record, it was imploring ISS and IAC to get together. The make peace threads were made when both ISS and IAC were on top.
I didnt expect ISS to crumble or IAC to be in such a commanding position. But in this skirmish KIA has shot both IAC and ISS. We watch with interest as this tale unfolds, nothing more.
KIA EVE Home
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Montaire What people say shapes opinion. What you said shaped my opinion of ISS.
I honestly do not care in the slightest.
And that's why, IMHO, ISS shouldn't let you back in again  -----
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Butter Dog
Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.01.10 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Montaire I think perhaps you mis understand. What Im trying to say is that the things you wrote negativly impacted ISS.
You forgot to add 'in my opinion' at the end of your sentance.
Look, this is a discussion forum. If you don't agree with what I say, engage in the discussion - make me justify what I say. Sitting there and just passively observing, even if you disagree with an opinion, doesnt serve you very well - as I said before: its a discussion forum!
Anyway, I think you mistunderstand me and what I was seeking to achieve in that thread about MC - it was MEANT to ultimately make ISS and particularly its leadership look bad. If I succeeded in doing that, great - you telling me it worked is a compliment.
The whole way ISS conducted the war was pretty shameful - when they should have been brokering for peace, they got greedy and wanted more. That led to what we have now.
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Butter Dog
Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.01.10 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: James Snowscoran
And that's why, IMHO, ISS shouldn't let you back in again 
lol
please tell me why I would want to rejoin an Alliance whos leader publically lied about me (and was proved beyond all doubt to be lying)?
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: James Snowscoran
And that's why, IMHO, ISS shouldn't let you back in again 
lol
please tell me why I would want to rejoin an Alliance whos leader publically lied about me (and was proved beyond all doubt to be lying)?
fortune and glory indy... fortune and glory
Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: James Snowscoran
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Montaire What people say shapes opinion. What you said shaped my opinion of ISS.
I honestly do not care in the slightest.
And that's why, IMHO, ISS shouldn't let you back in again 
In case there's some confusion, Butter Dog did not leave ISS of his own accord. He was ordered to stop posting when he rejoined ISSN and he knew he had to (even posted to that effect). I personally thought he would stop posting but he didn't and he was booted from the alliance.
That wasn't the only reason but it was a pretty big one. He will not be permitted to return to ISSN and ISS member corps should know that it is not acceptable to let him into their corps. AFAIK, he is out for good this time. I would be shocked if he was allowed back in.
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