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Zuki Ed Gallente Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.10 11:04:00 - [61] Originally by: Zubenelgenubi SE10 didn't tell me he was a celeb Dark Horse that he is >.> He didn't tell me either but it makes a lot of things clearer now . thnx for all the good lucks everybody, good luck to you too. Go POS I cna ytpe 300 wrods pre mniuet!!! Max sig image file size is 24,000 bytes. --Jorauk
Major Stormer Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.01.10 11:08:00 - [62] Good luck guys, have fun!
Banlish Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.10 11:35:00 - [63] From everything I've read and the way the map worked out I have to say great work POS. I've always looked at POS space on the political map as sort of a cornerstone. The rest of the map has changed so many times it isn't funny since the middle of 05 but one thing I loved to see was the Prime Orbital Systems territory in the bright yellow in the south. Alot of people have alot of respect for what you guys have done, how you built your corps, alliance and territory and most importantly how you conducted yourselves during this war. I can remember reading the first ASCN post about how ASCN, AXE and POS were marching into delve and it surprised me. I honestly didn't know at the time that POS was going going to get involved in the war, I thought (mistakenly) that POS and BoB had a relationship much like BoB and ISS have worked together in the past. For a while I thought POS was just a tight group of corps in a small, yet well developed constellation(s?) in Estoria that built all manner of ships and things for the community. I still don't know where that idea came from, but then again I was very new. I have to give special attention to one thing tho, not ONCE did I read of a POS member smack talking on the forums. ASCN and BoB got into it very heavily, which both sides will probably agree now that it's over, but I didn't see dozens of POS members come out in droves to throw mud at their allies nor that their foes. I have to salute you all for that, it's a very hard thing to do when you know what could happen to your space. I'm sorry your space is gone, and I really do hope we see you guys on the map again. You've been one of my favorite alliances since I joined EVE and I hope that after all you've been through you appear on the map again with the hallmark outpost building coming back into play. Well fought, and well conducted. Salutes -Banlish ----------- FLA diplomat
Nero Winger Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.10 11:49:00 - [64] i know some of you guys and those i know are nice ppl. it was fun with you and looks like it will be fun in the future again. Respect to POS for keeping their straight lines in politics and risking everything they had, lose everything they had n 0.0 and stil keeping their politics. -SIG- Personally i do not flame at anybody --- BUT --- If you flame at me, do not expect that i will not return it in the same way....
MrRx7 Amarr Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.10 12:20:00 - [65] Edited by: MrRx7 on 10/01/2007 12:18:25 The war was great fun, Ever single little engagment and battle was fun. Kicked out of our home or not, we're here to stay, MWA good luck to you and see you in WX tomorrow. Edit: Yeah we've know SE10 was a spy, we keep him locked in the basement for that reason
Asylum Seaker Minmatar RONA Corporation	Posted - 2007.01.10 12:45:00 - [66] Originally by: LTD THOR Originally by: Asylum Seaker Have fun. Good to see loseing the stations hasn't damaged your enthusiasm too much. Originally by: Apollyon X It's better to die on your feet then live a lifetime on your knees. -Emiliano Zapata This quote is actually from JosT Martf, a cuban revolutionary, just letting you know. ZOMG wrong Asylum! sry, you dont win teh price. I'm not wrong, damnit. Unfortunatley the only source I can find to back me up is wikipedia, deeply sorry no insult intended http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emiliano_Zapata Down the bottom in the quotes section "The quote Es mejor morir a pie que vivir arrodillado (Translation: It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.),while popularly attributed to Zapata, is actually from Cuban revolutionary JosT Martf. Zapatistas did use this slogan, but it did not originate with Zapata." Memento Mori.
Hysenthlay Minmatar The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.01.10 13:41:00 - [67] Edited by: Hysenthlay on 10/01/2007 13:38:08 Originally by: Ashamar Thanks everyone for your supporting comments. This should be fun. GL MWA See ya in space :) ____________________________ Silflay Hraka U Embleer Rah.
hired thug ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.10 13:43:00 - [68] Originally by: Apollyon X It's better to die on your feet then live a lifetime on your knees. -Emiliano Zapata Regardless of origin for this text i think it is a damn good text. I thank Asylum Seaker for it. I wouldn't be supriced if that line will follow POS for some time.
Sun Ra Godspeed You Black Emperor	Posted - 2007.01.10 14:28:00 - [69] Sucks POS got dragged into this really Arcane Frankologies - 'plz stop guys it's xmas'
DeadDuck Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.10 14:34:00 - [70] Just a question. Was POS involved in the ASCN vs BOB conflict ? Or you kept a neutrality policy during the campaign ? Thank you
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.10 14:42:00 - [71] Originally by: DeadDuck Just a question. Was POS involved in the ASCN vs BOB conflict ? Or you kept a neutrality policy during the campaign ? Thank you If sitting in delve cloaked in some never used system and doing fck all for 2 months, then finally benny hill invasion with towers that they could not fuel counts as active participation, then they were involved. -------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve. McGreedy
Kronarty Amarr Oberon Incorporated Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.10 14:42:00 - [72] Originally by: DeadDuck Just a question. Was POS involved in the ASCN vs BOB conflict ? Or you kept a neutrality policy during the campaign ? From Tabatha's first message in this thread: "[...]We fought BoB since day one of this war[...]" I think that counts as a non-neutrality policy
hired thug ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.10 14:43:00 - [73] Originally by: DeadDuck Just a question. Was POS involved in the ASCN vs BOB conflict ? Or you kept a neutrality policy during the campaign ? Thank you I think this from Tabs original post will give you the answer Originally by: Tabatha We fought BoB since day one of this war and have been fighting even after their victory was more than certain. We have stood with our friends in this dire situation and tried to help where we could in operations coordinated with ASCN leadership (as long as it existed).
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.10 14:43:00 - [74] Originally by: DeadDuck Just a question. Was POS involved in the ASCN vs BOB conflict ? Or you kept a neutrality policy during the campaign ? Thank you ASCN HC considered POS's fleet gathering abilities substandard (oh how ironic that turned out to be), and thus 'requested' POS early on in the whole thing to contribute to the war effort by sitting in UHKL system in delve for weeks on end. That is, unless I'm mistaken and POS came up with that idea themselves. Then there was a small attempt at pos-spamming in nol-m9 I believe, supposedly to be backed up by a large ascn fleet amnouvre in order to draw our forces into esoteria so we wouldn't be able to react in time. So all in all POS was fairly active in the war, and most definately threw their lot in with ASCN from the get go. Not really surprising seeing the past. Old blog Originally by: Vriezuh Naz: John is a realist
Kitia STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.10 15:13:00 - [75] I wish Good luck in the future to all POS members , it was a honor to fly along side you in the conflict. You have my respect for standing up for freedom rather than putting the chains of slavery upon yourself. Look me up in game o/
Jake Noble Amarr OLE Mining Corp	Posted - 2007.01.10 15:25:00 - [76] Good luck to POS Quote: Kicked out of our home or not, we're here to stay, MWA good luck to you and see you in WX tomorrow. Never seen you in WX lol, only your friends. However I must point out how poor your pilots react in local with the smack. Your pilots are rude and the respect that we had is certainly now well and truly gone. I know you are upset about loosing your space, but your poor ganking tactics like logging in bubbles and other goon like tactics show your real colours. And quit the bob slaves crap, ASCN let you have that space, you where slaves to ASCN infact almost every alliance in this game is a "slave" to someone. Some people pay in ships, minerals, and some pay isk all seems to be a form of slavery? I think you need to hit the history books ladies and gentleman; so get a grip ladies and don't troll my reply please!
DeadDuck Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.10 15:26:00 - [77] Originally by: Kronarty Originally by: DeadDuck Just a question. Was POS involved in the ASCN vs BOB conflict ? Or you kept a neutrality policy during the campaign ? From Tabatha's first message in this thread: "[...]We fought BoB since day one of this war[...]" I think that counts as a non-neutrality policy Sorry .. Good luck in your future
Kronarty Amarr Oberon Incorporated Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.10 16:28:00 - [78] Originally by: Jake Noble And quit the bob slaves crap, ASCN let you have that space, you where slaves to ASCN infact almost every alliance in this game is a "slave" to someone. Some people pay in ships, minerals, and some pay isk all seems to be a form of slavery? Let me clear a common(?) misconception on the nature of the POS-ASCN relationship: POS never paid ASCN. Not a single isk, m3 of minerals, ship, module or exotic dancer was paid to ASCN by POS. We were good neighbours and friends, that is all. Now having said that, I hope people understand that the fact MWA are paying top isk to occupy one of our two constellations while being banned from the local 10/10 complex (ouch!) is certainly NOT our problem, it is MWA's problem. So no, we were not ASCN's slaves/pets.
hired thug ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.10 16:34:00 - [79] Originally by: Jake Noble And quit the bob slaves crap, ASCN let you have that space, you where slaves to ASCN infact almost every alliance in this game is a "slave" to someone. Some people pay in ships, minerals, and some pay isk all seems to be a form of slavery? I think you need to hit the history books ladies and gentleman; so get a grip ladies and don't troll my reply please! I tend to agree that slaves are not a 100% good word. Tenants, Bobbits whatever might be better. The fact tho that "BoB-slaves" is a term this forum is pretty much used to. It has been used since the start when BoB lets someone else live in their space in exchange for a rent. Reason is that you do the work so that BoB gets rich. POS have never paid ASCN 1 isk for living in Eso, ever. POS had 100% freedom to produce whatever we wanted, including capital ships. POS had no obligations to help ASCN in any matter, financial nor fleetwise. POS shared the 16P complex with ASCN on a 1 week on 1 week off deal. POS and ASCN are brothers, not landowner and tenants. THAT is the main different between the two of us. BoB offered POS a tenant deal but it was refused on the spot. POS pay CCP to play. POS DO NOT pay another ingame corp isk to play. So again, yeah BoB slaves are maybe a lame term to use, but POS had never the same relationship with ASCN as MWA has with BoB. Regarding the smack in local. Well it will pass. POS has in the future no history of using alot of smack. But sitation is not what is was in the future. Remember that MWA have paid BoB to get control of the outpost POS and specially OI have invested in and built. I will not tell my members to stop smacking in local, cause that will take some of their fun away. But in time this will pass. As for the tactic i think it works perfect. We have a pretty nice killboard atm and it will be like that in the future. This ofc makes is very frustrating for MWA, but again. Dont think it shall come without cost to rent the station POS have built and invested so much in. BoB fought us in their tactic. A tactic that POS had no match in. When ASCN couldn't stand up against BoB how will POS be able to. POS are now using it own tactic to fight BoB-Tenants. This is how it will be and i guess if you dont like it you have always the option of moving out of Eso again.
Dawson Caldari British Space Corporation	Posted - 2007.01.10 16:53:00 - [80] BSC wishes good luck to our old friends good times Ambassador & Admiral
James 315 The Older Gamers	Posted - 2007.01.10 17:42:00 - [81] Much respect to Prime Orbital Systems, a very brave alliance.
245645	Posted - 2007.01.10 17:44:00 - [82] Edited by: 245645 on 10/01/2007 17:40:57
MeatwagonUK M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.10 17:45:00 - [83] Good luck POS, have fun in whatever you do. Nice to see lots of friendly faces in the thread :) o/ niko + matt
DinoC ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.10 18:18:00 - [84] Originally by: ZelRox Originally by: DinoC Originally by: Apollyon X It's better to die on your feet then live a lifetime on your knees. -Emiliano Zapata This quote suits you guys well Good luck POS. Spot On mate. Nice sentence. I told you i would have your corpse that day :D And I knew you would. It was a bit of a "suicide" mission and death was almost certain, but I had a job to do and needed to stay there. I miss my cerberus though Still manage to kill a few before going down, but the amount of T1 frigs you had around me was not even funny lol. Anyway, it was good fun and it was nice to shoot at you for a change :) I'll get you back Jake, as for you comments about our tactics it only shows your frustration since you guys have been maintaining a bubble camp for the last 2 days on a 23/7 basis and still you manage to take a nearly 2 bill isk of losses (estimate) against our losses of about 5 ships. Its not our habit of discussing battles/wars on the forums so please dont drag this thread into that. Battles are won and lost in-game not on the forums... As I told you many times before... Its only a game after all. Great Respect to all others posting on this thread. Its nice to know that there are a lot of people out there that although enemies in-game, have great respect for us. Likewise, we respect all our enemies that play and that polite. Thus why you will notice that a lot of us have great respect for Ricarda M for the way he conducts his gaming experience. An enemy and a friend that we can chat to.
Manus Ghostface Caldari Oberon Incorporated Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.10 18:36:00 - [85] RicardaM is kind of like that gentleman fencer who is slightly evil (perhaps a neat mustache and goatee) but will still discuss wine and politics while slicing you to pieces. That city is well fortified which has a wall of men instead of brick. - Lycurgus
Jake Noble Amarr OLE Mining Corp	Posted - 2007.01.10 18:58:00 - [86] Like I said guys gl to you, I took what you said into consideration and removed the part that you where referencing to but will leave yee oldie slave trade there.
Thesiuss Oberon Incorporated Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.10 20:52:00 - [87] Edited by: Thesiuss on 10/01/2007 20:54:30 It does this ole manÆs heart well to be proud of the way POS and Oberon has conducted themselves not only in this conflict but since the very beginning going all the way back to the Great Northern War. Always steadfast in it's principals and to its friends, regardless of it's changing fortunes good and bad.... My utmost respect to the men and women of a POS and Oberon. Oberon Inc Website--------------Oberon Sales Page
Jumpp Oberon Incorporated Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.10 21:12:00 - [88] Edited by: Jumpp on 10/01/2007 21:10:29 Originally by: Rod Blaine ASCN HC...'requested' POS early on in the whole thing to contribute to the war effort by sitting in UHKL system in delve for weeks on end. That is, unless I'm mistaken and POS came up with that idea themselves. Then there was a small attempt at pos-spamming in nol-m9 I believe, supposedly to be backed up by a large ascn fleet amnouvre in order to draw our forces into esoteria so we wouldn't be able to react in time. So all in all POS was fairly active in the war, and most definately threw their lot in with ASCN from the get go. Not really surprising seeing the past. Mr. Blaine is not mistaken. ASCN asked us to do it, and we were happy to oblige. As the much larger partner, they were entitled to call the shots. Eisenhower was Supreme Allied Commander, not Montgomery. ASCN were good friends in peace and good allies in war. They weren't our landlords. They were our friends. We lived in Esoteria as a free people, without compromise, and we step into the shadow now without complaint. To everyone who's offered kind words: Thanks. To everyone who fought bravely in the war, on either side: /salute To the new tenants in Esoteria: Be seeing you.
Ricarda M Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.11 02:35:00 - [89] i ll miss all the cap recharger II fitted Apocalypse BS :( Good luck guys!Always nice talking in local ;) regards!
DinoC ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.11 02:55:00 - [90] Originally by: Ricarda M i ll miss all the cap recharger II fitted Apocalypse BS :( Good luck guys!Always nice talking in local ;) regards! Unlucky mate... MWA only drops t1 :) heheh

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