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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.12.02 23:40:00 -
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boo hoo Battleships wont be the only thing to fly if you want people to die boo hoo ya breakin me heart
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If this world was supposed to be friendly CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons |

LiverpoolFC
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Posted - 2003.12.03 00:01:00 -
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Guess my looted sensor boosters will come in handy with the new targeting rules, may even be able to sell the spare ones for a good price.
They change the game we got to adapt. The pirates been doing it well since day 1. Maybe its time the the BS miners (like me) had to rethink weapons/device load outs.
All on-line games change as the game and players evolve. Assumptions made by the devs in the early stages of development are proved wrong by the players, the devs have to counteract that in order to maintain the balance.
Hell there are lots of things I think are wrong with this game, but others will disagree with me. Its all a matter of opinion. Many of us agree that there is so much right with the game and are willing to see how things develope.
If people didn't give a **** these forums would be empty.
Lets see how the new patch works out and adapt to the changes. You may even like them and even if you don't you can always cancel you account and move on. We all have that right.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.12.03 00:16:00 -
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here at SPVD HQ, we've done pretty well adapting to the changes so far.
I never expected Eve to stand still. I also never expected to see such huge changes coming together all in one go like this.
I can only hope it goes smoothly. .
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.12.03 00:18:00 -
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"here at SPVD HQ, we've done pretty well adapting to the changes so far."
Yeah, I gotta hand it to exploiters, they are always ahead of the curve...
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2003.12.03 05:49:00 -
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lol...30 seconds to lock and 15 seconds to reload the launchers with FOF missles and let them rip... no probs there
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.12.03 05:56:00 -
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Edited by: Jash Illian on 03/12/2003 05:58:43
Quote: boo hoo Battleships wont be the only thing to fly if you want people to die boo hoo ya breakin me heart
Fetty, you're a semi-respectable guy .
I went over to Chaos and tried locking a Badger with a Vigil. Not scrambling/webifying. Just locking. Chaos has a function that allows you to mark anyone in targetting range in your threat window. So the second they appeared in the system, I could try locking via the threat window. With a 1.43s lock time I failed every time (was a specific test of a module). I won't mention that I was out of web/scramble range 3-4 times due to the random location on the jumpin.
And Overall the changes are okay. But atm, they're in dire need of some tweaking else even you'll be outta work. 
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2003.12.03 06:51:00 -
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Edited by: Dust Puppy on 03/12/2003 06:52:16 Drutort That's not a bad idea imo. Kind of a BS designed to kill frigates, it should ofcourse be vulnerable to BS. __________ Capacitor research |

Pann
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Posted - 2003.12.03 06:52:00 -
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Removed flames and OT posts. Please keep it civil and On Topic or we'll have to shut 'er down. Thanks.
Eve Community Manager [email protected] CCP |

Slithereen
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Posted - 2003.12.03 07:12:00 -
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Once again, its damned if you do, damned if you don't.
The changes---making your locking time dependent on ship radius---came about from complaints about EVE being over-battleshipped and frigates being renegated to sheer uselessness and a mark of noobiedom.
So yeah, I think its a good idea, but it needs some tweaking.
If you like to make changes to the game, at least give realistic, real world justifiable reasons to do so. It would be much more acceptable. ECM having a real range and fall off---that's real and acceptable. Locking time dependent on ship's radius, that is acceptable. Military aviation terms call this radar cross section, and the smaller your radar cross section is, the greater is your inherent "stealth" against radar.
Frigates and small things, naturally, should be much harder to both detect and lock on than big ships.
The game should orient PvP back to the low end---frigates and cruisers. PvP with battleships are far too expensive to be maintainable in the long run and acceptable for the players, when the costs of replacement is exorbitant.
CCP is in the right track but this needs some fine tuning. If you find the length of locking time to be a bit excessive, file a report.
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.12.03 08:59:00 -
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Edited by: Miso on 03/12/2003 09:00:11 I love these sorts of threads, guaranteed to bring out all the kiddies and criers.
Whatever is done, its wrong. Can't you guys just adapt?
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Intensity Green
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Posted - 2003.12.03 09:17:00 -
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PvP will change. For some that's guaranteed to be a bad thing. I however, think this a way to try and fix pvp.
Just because the big badass PvP'ers from beta can't jip camp frigates with their bs's anymore we shouldn't all cry a river.
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Artean
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Posted - 2003.12.03 11:07:00 -
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Do like the changes in principle. Though, they are in need of some tweeking etc, but TomB is pretty aware of that.
Ive never seen a new change bring such a flood of grumble. Tough, as long as TomB keeps his choosen path, it dosent bother me. New will come, old will fall. Adapt.
For the game in generall, I do think these changes are just whats needed. Players will in an earlier stage in their EVE career be usefull in PvP, and thereby willing to participate. PvP should be available for all, without weeks/months of mining, and not considered as a luxury. |

Indira Firebrand
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Posted - 2003.12.03 11:17:00 -
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Quote: I Like that they will remove the insta jump BMs, but i really dont like the "hard to target" on smaller ships, there is no logic at all in that.
no Logic?
It will ALWAYS take a BS with 6+ heavy guns that need to be brought to bear ,MUCH longer to target a tiny little, fast flying frigate then it will take the frigate with its 2 to 3 weeny pea shooters to target a huge, really slow BS that fills half the screen.
You have to actually USE logic to recognise logic. 
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.12.03 11:51:00 -
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"Just because the big badass PvP'ers from beta can't jip camp frigates with their bs's anymore we shouldn't all cry a river"
DAMN STRAIGHT!
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Hatsim
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Posted - 2003.12.05 19:01:00 -
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lol
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