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Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2007.01.11 20:15:00 - [1] Edited by: Rells on 11/01/2007 20:18:51 Originally by: Gharthak Edited by: Gharthak on 11/01/2007 09:47:35 Well for months I've seen advertisements from Agony Unleased for their various courses for their.. PVP University.. This past week and a half or so I've came across quite a handfull of AGONY unleased pilots pirating random members. My observations so far is that they: 1: Run away from a fair fight. 2: Run away from a fight that is numerically in their odds 3: Dock for hours on end afraid that my little drake and hyperion are going to get them (this is like 2 on 6 odds keep in mind). Hmm quite interesting. I wonder if Marauder (executor of NEC alliance) is privy to this post. Ill be sure to link it to him. We have been NAPed with NEC for several weeks now and that MIGHT indicate why AGONY pilots dont fire on you. The smack talk here is disturbing from someone supposed to be our friend. If NEC wants us to engage you, a cancellation of the NAP can be arranged. Originally by: Gharthak Edited by: Gharthak on 11/01/2007 09:47:35 So this mighty university is supposed to teach people how to PVP. Once I figured I might even send a bunch of my newbs their way as I recruit them.. Let them get some training... But my question is.. Did they forget to teach their own? I'm not exactly the jedi master of PVP myself but I have to say.. these guys need some training themselves.. :) They were trying to snipe ships at a stargate 75 km away in destroyers. :) Oh for those in AGONY - this was when I was between into different corps.. different standings. On saturday a fleet of the destroyers and harpys that you despise were rampaging EC-P8R sniping anything snipable on the gates. A total of four interdictors, 5 interceptors and god knows how many other ships and pods were quasi instapopped. So yes, we were trying ... and succeeding, as you heard from the D2 pilot above. Oh and point of Order. AGONY members are not students merely attending courses) but members of the corp. Our class students do not join AGONY. Finally to the Eve Animal Control pilot ... . Try looking up the word "gullible". In the space of three hours we killed an interdictor, raven, 2 battlecruisers, and miscelaneous other ships in return for losing 4 tech 1 fitted tech 1 frigates. Too funny. And BTW carriers with smart bombs is a really stupid way to try and catch a frig fleet. Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2007.01.11 20:30:00 - [2] Originally by: Gharthak The whole intent of this post was not to start a smack fest on forums and maybe I should have made that clear. Oh get off it that was completely your intent, the post can not be interpreted in any other way. Originally by: Gharthak Its simply that the AGONY Unleashed pilots have shown to me bad judgements and bad tactics - example would be the solo brutix pilot who did have the guts to engage my Drake - and he didnt have a single piece of TII gear onboard and somehow thought he could win that fight? In one breath you say we are cowards and another breath you say an Agony pilot took on a fight in which the odds werent in his favor? Which is it? Agony pilots will somethimed engage pilots that have a good chance of killing them for the rush. Killing an ares with a crow is not nearly so much fun as killing the ares with a Merlin. Its a chance to show off skill. The fight you are referring to he lost. The next one he might have won. Or are yo uasserting that you never loose a fight? Originally by: Gharthak In other words. AGONY Unleashed wants to charge tens of millions of isk of pilots/corps to train them how to PVP and their own pilots excercise bad tactics and bad judgement. If your going to pirate - pirate right correctly. :) I cant see sending my newb pilots to their courses in light of this - and several months ago I had considered it but their abilities have proven to me that its a waste of iskies in the future. Quite frankly we dont make a great deal of ISK off the courses. Not nearly the hordes of money most people think we make. This is despite every class being sold out. The fact is we do it to get people into PvP and to have fun. A class is a place to learn, not measure appendages. Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2007.01.11 20:40:00 - [3] Originally by: Kyguard Agony Unleashed are pretty cool, nuff said. Thanks Kyguard ... my complements to you once again. Let me know if you need a job in game. We fought so many fun engagements in Syndicate. I remember the Pilgrim Thorax battle and how we puzzled through scenarios to attempt take out you and Xtreem in your uber-raxes. Great times and great respect. Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2007.01.12 17:13:00 - [4] Mitch is also way too much of a gentleman to point out the fact that it wasnt just your drake vs his brutix but that you called in a friend to help you in the middle of the battle. What's the matter Gharthak? Not so sure you could do it on your own? You bluster falls a little flat on its face there. P.S. I have talked with Marauder, executor of NEC alliance, and he has said to me flat out that Gharthak's views are not shared in any way, shape or form by the NEC alliance. We continue to be friendly with NEC in general. Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2007.01.13 07:54:00 - [5] Originally by: Saint Battalion Originally by: Ragel Tropxe wow I'm famous - my corpse is one of those in the picture earlier in this thread Agony rock as far as I'm concerned - I've flown with them a few times and always had great fun. keep it going Agony! lol I'd love to have been on TS with you guys when that smartboming Megathron let loose on ya. But seriously Agony are ok guys, had good fights with them back in Syndicate and Rells always took it on the chin like a man when he lost. It wouldnt have been very spectacular. It was a bad covops drop. You would have jsut heard me telling people forcefully to get out of range. Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2007.01.22 11:29:00 - [6] I am not going to discuss internal Agony issues on this forum nor would I come here to trash you Elena Bothari if the roles were reversed. You disagree with my leadership and my person and that is fine. But I wont be shouted at and cursed at by you on the vent server. I wish you the best of luck in the future and I hope you find someplace in the game that you enjoy more. Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?

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