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Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1685	Posted - 2015.11.30 16:47:57 - [61] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Well.... Can't say I didn't try. I think my personal preference on the matter is pretty solidly established by now... but yeah, supply issues aside, I'd really love a two-month 'we are all MinFac now' deployment. It might make it a little difficult to keep our stockpiles in Amarr tended, but eh, that's what cut-out and shell corps are for.
Mika Snow Cyber Knights 0	Posted - 2015.11.30 20:16:37 - [62] - Quote Utari Onzo wrote: As much as I'd love to dogpile on the Grr Null pilot agenda, Ms Vea showed her capabilities at the Amarr Championships. Now, to the OP, might I recommend looking at the 'other' alliance in the Militia, the Praetorians? PIE are the only alliance I have been flying with lately. Have nothing but good things to say about them. Friendly, competent and dedicated pilots.
Alizabeth Vea Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 641	Posted - 2015.11.30 20:37:40 - [63] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Alizabeth Vea is one of the most capable logistics pilots and anchors that I've ever had the pleasure of working with - and for. In addition to the personal piloting skills she displayed in the Succession Trials, she's proven herself able to maintain her cool and keep the pilots under her direction focused and effective in prolonged, heavy fighting. There are very few people I'd trust to watch over me as readily. She's probably one of the top five in the cluster at what we do. Thank you, madame Repswarm Director. Forged in the fires of the forth Delve war, I've been to hell, and I'm back for more, so cap the gas and push back the door, turn fuel to fire, let the monster roar. Retainer of House Sarum
Kalo Askold Sanguis Inceptum 19	Posted - 2015.12.02 09:11:42 - [64] - Quote Mika Snow wrote: Utari Onzo wrote: As much as I'd love to dogpile on the Grr Null pilot agenda, Ms Vea showed her capabilities at the Amarr Championships. Now, to the OP, might I recommend looking at the 'other' alliance in the Militia, the Praetorians? PIE are the only alliance I have been flying with lately. Have nothing but good things to say about them. Friendly, competent and dedicated pilots. Just dont mention the Empress
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 5810	Posted - 2015.12.02 15:55:32 - [65] - Quote Kalo Askold wrote: Mika Snow wrote: Utari Onzo wrote: As much as I'd love to dogpile on the Grr Null pilot agenda, Ms Vea showed her capabilities at the Amarr Championships. Now, to the OP, might I recommend looking at the 'other' alliance in the Militia, the Praetorians? PIE are the only alliance I have been flying with lately. Have nothing but good things to say about them. Friendly, competent and dedicated pilots. Just dont mention the Empress I don't remember Matari having much of a sense of humour about Karen Midular's assassination, either. "Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
Anyanka Funk Hematology Advancement Program Sani-Sabik 337	Posted - 2015.12.02 17:02:29 - [66] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Kalo Askold wrote: Mika Snow wrote: Utari Onzo wrote: As much as I'd love to dogpile on the Grr Null pilot agenda, Ms Vea showed her capabilities at the Amarr Championships. Now, to the OP, might I recommend looking at the 'other' alliance in the Militia, the Praetorians? PIE are the only alliance I have been flying with lately. Have nothing but good things to say about them. Friendly, competent and dedicated pilots. Just dont mention the Empress I don't remember Matari having much of a sense of humour about Karen Midular's assassination, either. I believe they threw her naked corpse on the side of a plateau to rot and feed the wilderness. It would've of been much more respectful to at least drain her blood and consume her flesh. Giving her death a purpose instead of being thrown away like trash.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 882	Posted - 2015.12.03 01:31:17 - [67] - Quote Anyanka Funk wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Kalo Askold wrote: Mika Snow wrote: Utari Onzo wrote: As much as I'd love to dogpile on the Grr Null pilot agenda, Ms Vea showed her capabilities at the Amarr Championships. Now, to the OP, might I recommend looking at the 'other' alliance in the Militia, the Praetorians? PIE are the only alliance I have been flying with lately. Have nothing but good things to say about them. Friendly, competent and dedicated pilots. Just dont mention the Empress I don't remember Matari having much of a sense of humour about Karen Midular's assassination, either. I believe they threw her naked corpse on the side of a plateau to rot and feed the wilderness. It would've of been much more respectful to at least drain her blood and consume her flesh. Giving her death a purpose instead of being thrown away like trash. Why yes, it's disrespectful to return the body back to nature so that it can contribute to the natural cycle of birth, growth and decay. At least we aren't risking a prion or a blood disease with this practice. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Deitra Vess Khushakor Clan Of Questionable Repute 802	Posted - 2015.12.03 01:33:20 - [68] - Quote Burn!
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1699	Posted - 2015.12.03 01:44:46 - [69] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Just so you know, we do not just toss bodies onto the side of a plateau. There are rituals to put the spirit to rest, a moment of silence and other things. And we don't toss them. We're Sebiestor for crying out loud... ... we use home-made catapults.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 882	Posted - 2015.12.03 01:56:02 - [70] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: Just so you know, we do not just toss bodies onto the side of a plateau. There are rituals to put the spirit to rest, a moment of silence and other things. And we don't toss them. We're Sebiestor for crying out loud... ... we use home-made catapults. Not helping. We actually just laid them on top of the plateau on a flat surface, either a man-made pedestal or a natural-occurring flat boulder. Then after all the rituals are done, we leave the corpses to the corovids. At least that's how it's done on Matar. The practice is still the same we leave the corpse to the slave hounds or some other scavenger or animals with scavenging habits. There are no corovids on Skarkon II. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1699	Posted - 2015.12.03 05:42:03 - [71] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Not helping. We actually just laid them on top of the plateau on a flat surface, either a man-made pedestal or a natural-occurring flat boulder. Then after all the rituals are done, we leave the corpses to the corovids. At least that's how it's done on Matar. In my hometown, the practice is still the same we leave the corpse to the slave hounds or some other scavenger or animals with scavenging habits. There are no corovids on Skarkon II. C'mon, you really think she's going to listen to the truth? Just let her keep her bigoted notions - she's no more our friend than her erstwhile idol, Nauplius. But as actual funerary proceedings go? There are even fewer scavengers on stations - but for us, the immediate family accompanies the dead to the surface. I haven't had the misfortune yet - my grandparents died before I was born, and my uncles are either alive, or in the State and not telling us if he's dead. I assume Cailyn would get in touch, though.
Alizabeth Vea Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 646	Posted - 2015.12.03 05:54:03 - [72] - Quote Wait, you're serious? That's what you do with the dead? Forged in the fires of the forth Delve war, I've been to hell, and I'm back for more, so cap the gas and push back the door, turn fuel to fire, let the monster roar. Retainer of House Sarum
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 883	Posted - 2015.12.03 06:33:05 - [73] - Quote Alizabeth Vea wrote: Wait, you're serious? That's what you do with the dead? Yes, that's what we do to our dead. At least that's what we Sebiestor do to our dead. I cannot speak for the other Tribes. As one of your priests preached, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." Our funerary rites is based on a similar idea, except we believe not in God but in the Great Mother, and we also believe that the spirit of our forebears do return to the realm of the living once a year. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Leopold Caine Stillwater Corporation 619	Posted - 2015.12.03 07:34:47 - [74] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Alizabeth Vea wrote: Wait, you're serious? That's what you do with the dead? Yes, that's what we do to our dead. At least that's what we Sebiestor do to our dead. I'm curious to hear how that fits in with Federation's sanitation laws and protocols. Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 884	Posted - 2015.12.03 08:22:30 - [75] - Quote Leopold Caine wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: Alizabeth Vea wrote: Wait, you're serious? That's what you do with the dead? Yes, that's what we do to our dead. At least that's what we Sebiestor do to our dead. I'm curious to hear how that fits in with Federation's sanitation laws and protocols. Not my problem. I'm not a citizen. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Leopold Caine Stillwater Corporation 619	Posted - 2015.12.03 08:48:44 - [76] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Not my problem. I'm not a citizen. Oh, I must've jumped to a conclusion there - given your corporate employment and all. I'm curious as to how do ethnic Matari living in the Federation get around this issue - do they just send all their corpses to the Republic? Someone has to move all those corpses after all - sounds like a lucrative business, even if you're not tied in with Quafe. Elmund Egivand wrote: For now it's Skarkon II. Who knows where our Enclave end up in the a generation or two later. Interesting little planet, isn't it. Feel invited to join us during our annual humanitarian event over Skarkon II next May; I hadn't known you were related to it. Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc
Skyweir Kinnison Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords 151	Posted - 2015.12.03 08:49:28 - [77] - Quote Leopold Caine wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: Alizabeth Vea wrote: Wait, you're serious? That's what you do with the dead? Yes, that's what we do to our dead. At least that's what we Sebiestor do to our dead. I'm curious to hear how that fits in with Federation's sanitation laws and protocols. The Federation stands for individual freedom. That includes religious freedoms. As long as you don't infringe other people's rights, you are good to go. There is however, usually a process of authorisation required from the local governing body. Such rituals are clearly not allowed on the streets or rooftops of great cities - anymore than the Minmatar allow their dead to be consumed in the village centre - there are plenty of planets and continents far away from human habitation which can be licensed for the ceremonies. I understand that in the great population centres, many Minmatar groups have bought their own lands on nearby planets for providing services. On our Estates, we have set aside several places in the southern mountains for our Minmatar employees. It must also be noted that many Minmatar families across the Federation have enough money to take the deceased back to their ancestral homes in the Republic, and this seems to be the preferred approach if affordable. There are probably more than a million different rituals for disposing of the dead available in the Federation. And a very flourishing funerary business to service those varied needs. Infinite diversity in infinite decomposition, if you will. Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
Tamiroth Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 179	Posted - 2015.12.03 09:08:04 - [78] - Quote That's unhealthy and outright scary. I had no idea that the Minmatar do this... Thought they either bury or burn their dead, like most civilized people do. And what if there's a plague? ...People are weird.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 884	Posted - 2015.12.03 09:14:43 - [79] - Quote Leopold Caine wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: For now it's Skarkon II. Who knows where our Enclave end up in the a generation or two later. Interesting little planet, isn't it. Feel invited to join us during our annual humanitarian event over Skarkon II next May; I hadn't known you were related to it. The planet is crap. It's a miracle we survived and somehow managed to thrive on this desolate backwater where the water is so briny you can't even sink a pebble in it and the commodities so scarce even the Republic figured that further investment on this planet is like flushing ISK down a sink. Sometimes had to wonder if the Clan crash-landing on the planet was a miracle or a curse. We are well aware of the Cartel efforts on this planet and will gladly refuse your fruit, no matter how sweet and succulent. We are doing okay on this dustbowl, thanks. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 884	Posted - 2015.12.03 09:16:28 - [80] - Quote Tamiroth wrote: That's unhealthy and outright scary. I had no idea that the Minmatar do this... Thought they either bury or burn their dead, like most civilized people do. And what if there's a plague? ...People are weird. Sky burials are done out in the mountains or wilderness or wasteland, depending on planet, and far enough away from population centers. Without a dense population around the corpse, diseases can't find a host to incubate and spread. We are well aware of the current advances in medical science, you know. Wouldn't be able to survive long enough to reach the stars if we didn't. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1700	Posted - 2015.12.03 13:28:54 - [81] - Quote Tamiroth wrote: That's unhealthy and outright scary. I had no idea that the Minmatar do this... Thought they either bury or burn their dead, like most civilized people do. And what if there's a plague? ...People are weird. Burying the dead only limits which scavengers get the remains. And burning... that's supposed to be civilized? There's energy bound up in your meat - no mysticism there, either, I'm talking pure caloric content. It's going to be released one way or another. Life itself is a process by which chemical compounds are broken down and converted into waste heat, with the (for us) useful side-effect of fueling self-propagating organisms. Burning the body only streamlines the process, efficiently producing heat, with none of the side effects we rely on. As for diseases, that's been answered already. It's not like we do this stuff in the middle of population centers and invite all the vermin in town.
Tamiroth Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 180	Posted - 2015.12.03 13:46:21 - [82] - Quote Arrendis wrote: And burning... that's supposed to be civilized? There's energy bound up in your meat - no mysticism there, either, I'm talking pure caloric content. It's going to be released one way or another. Life itself is a process by which chemical compounds are broken down and converted into waste heat, with the (for us) useful side-effect of fueling self-propagating organisms. Burning the body only streamlines the process, efficiently producing heat, with none of the side effects we rely on.. Hm, won't technically using one's ashes as organic fertilizer also count as "fueling self-propagating organisms" and/or "return to nature"?
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 885	Posted - 2015.12.03 14:09:18 - [83] - Quote Tamiroth wrote: Arrendis wrote: And burning... that's supposed to be civilized? There's energy bound up in your meat - no mysticism there, either, I'm talking pure caloric content. It's going to be released one way or another. Life itself is a process by which chemical compounds are broken down and converted into waste heat, with the (for us) useful side-effect of fueling self-propagating organisms. Burning the body only streamlines the process, efficiently producing heat, with none of the side effects we rely on.. Hm, won't technically using one's ashes as organic fertilizer also count as "fueling self-propagating organisms" and/or "return to nature"? Burning breaks the bonds in our biochemical molecules and release that energy as waste heat, the same bonds which can be used as energy to fuel metabolism and many other important chemical processes. Ashes are very inefficient fertilisers. Corovid droppings are better. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1700	Posted - 2015.12.03 14:29:16 - [84] - Quote Tamiroth wrote: Hm, won't technically using one's ashes as organic fertilizer also count as "fueling self-propagating organisms" and/or "return to nature"? The ashes have already had most of the calories consumed - that's what fueled the fire that reduced them to ashes, after all. The more efficiently you convert complex organic molecules to carbon and released energy, the less effective the results are for.. well, more or less anything but being carbon. To nurse the maximum return from the energy stored in the molecular bonding, you want as inefficient a process as is feasible, and when it comes to energy release, chemical corrosion (ie: cellular digestion) is about the break-even point. For maximum 'how much life do you get from X molecules', you probably want anaerobic life, but then you don't get complex forms, and for our purposes as a species... we're kinda biased toward complex forms.
Anyanka Funk Hematology Advancement Program Sani-Sabik 337	Posted - 2015.12.03 16:29:02 - [85] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Anyanka Funk wrote: I believe they threw her naked corpse on the side of a plateau to rot and feed the wilderness. It would've of been much more respectful to at least drain her blood and consume her flesh. Giving her death a purpose instead of being thrown away like trash. Why yes, it's disrespectful to return the body back to nature so that it can contribute to the natural cycle of birth, growth and decay. Just so you know, we do not just toss bodies onto the side of a plateau. There are rituals to put the spirit to rest, a moment of silence and other things. Our practice also doesn't have us risking a prion or a blood disease either. I see why Diana calls you stupid all the time. People are not always bound to a planet. People with diseases including prions, and especially Sabik's Sepsis, are not fit for consumption or blood donation. The blood should be drained and certified clean as well as the body. I wouldn't expect you to know how cleaning a carcass is done or why. Do you even farm at all? Our religion is very clean. The Blood Raiders pride ourselves in our cleanliness. Even Omir Sarikusa, in his video debut, is taking his shower in clean fresh blood. The carcasses of your dead stink up the country side. I know very well. I'm from Hek V! And when food is scarce.. Guess what? The poor minmatar eat the dead.
Neph Operation Meatshield Plexodus 222	Posted - 2015.12.03 16:37:38 - [86] - Quote Anyanka Funk wrote: The carcasses of your dead stink up the country side. I know very well. I'm from Hek V! And when food is scarce. Guess what? The poor minmatar eat the dead. Where'd you buy that lie, Funk? Even Jita rumor-sellers don't stock such garbage. ~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 885	Posted - 2015.12.03 16:46:19 - [87] - Quote Anyanka Funk wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: Anyanka Funk wrote: I believe they threw her naked corpse on the side of a plateau to rot and feed the wilderness. It would've of been much more respectful to at least drain her blood and consume her flesh. Giving her death a purpose instead of being thrown away like trash. Why yes, it's disrespectful to return the body back to nature so that it can contribute to the natural cycle of birth, growth and decay. Just so you know, we do not just toss bodies onto the side of a plateau. There are rituals to put the spirit to rest, a moment of silence and other things. Our practice also doesn't have us risking a prion or a blood disease either. I see why Diana calls you stupid all the time. People are not always bound to a planet. People with diseases including prions, and especially Sabik's Sepsis, are not fit for consumption or blood donation. The blood should be drained and certified clean as well as the body. I wouldn't expect you to know how cleaning a carcass is done or why. Do you even farm at all? Our religion is very clean. The Blood Raiders pride ourselves in our cleanliness. Even Omir Sarikusa, in his video debut, is taking his shower in clean fresh blood. The carcasses of your dead stink up the country side. I know very well. I'm from Hek V! And when food is scarce.. Guess what? The poor minmatar eat the dead. Because the food is scarce. I see grotesque practices like that in the more impoverished and practically abandoned parts of Black Rise, but I do not go ahead and label the Caldari as cannibals for that few exceptional instances of desperate cannibalism. Why don't you go walk in some other planet where food is more plentiful? The carcases of our dead only stink our traditional sky burial sites for just a couple days anyway. The scavengers will clean out the bones, consume the organs and suck the marrows, leaving scraps for the bacteria. Once that is done, all that is left are cleaned out marrow-less bones and those things do not have an odour. We know, because we also collect the bones of our dead after a few days of the sky burial, pound them into gravel, mix that into milk or gruel or whatever, depending on availability, and leave that for the second round of scavengers. The only thing we leave to remember the dead by are the chronicles of their lives, heirlooms and, for some of the Clans, the hair. Also, had you missed the detail of having our dead returned to their Clan or their traditional burial grounds? We spare no expenses for that sort of thing. Many of the Republic worlds have funerary services that will ferry the corpses to their families and Clans, and such businesses are also available in Federation space. If such a service is not available, either a passer-by kin will collect the corpse and arrange for the corpse to be returned to family or Clan, or we will cremate them if such measures are deemed infeasible and return the ashes to the family or Clan, if able. Us Sebiestor take the matter of recovering bodies very seriously. On the note of screening, there is always that chance that the screening will give you false negatives. A point zero five percent error rate still means that there are errors, albeit rare. Otherwise, Sabik's Sepsis would had been eradicated generations ago. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Tyrel Toov Delusions of Granduer SpaceMonkey's Alliance 665	Posted - 2015.12.03 16:48:46 - [88] - Quote Wtf? How did this go from the Amarr Militia to Minmatar eating their dead? And no, we don't eat our dead. I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Anyanka Funk Hematology Advancement Program Sani-Sabik 337	Posted - 2015.12.03 17:21:07 - [89] - Quote Neph wrote: Anyanka Funk wrote: The carcasses of your dead stink up the country side. I know very well. I'm from Hek V! And when food is scarce. Guess what? The poor minmatar eat the dead. Where'd you buy that lie, Funk? Even Jita rumor-sellers don't stock such garbage. I grew up on Hek V, not in Jita. But I wouldn't doubt the slum lords in Jita use low grade biomass in their products just to keep prices low... If I recall some Quafe products even use low grade biomass accrued from ship wrecks.
Utari Onzo Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 825	Posted - 2015.12.03 18:18:16 - [90] - Quote Tyrel Toov wrote: Wtf? How did this go from the Amarr Militia to Minmatar eating their dead? And no, we don't eat our dead. Welcome to the IGS. I hear this sort of thing (going off on tangents, not cannibalism that is) is sadly all too common on the GalNet. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

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