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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:15:00 -
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I am announcing to the EVE Community my possible absense from EVE for an uncertain length of time. My 3 week old son is in the hospital, and to make a long story short it could be a fatal encounter. The Doctors dont know whats going on, and are obviously doing their best.
When I play this game I am, for the most part able to seperate friendships and people from Corp/Alliance tickers, because at the end of the day regardless of what ticker you bear, you are a real person sitting behind a Computer screen. I think most people understand this to some extent
With that being said I feel it is right to name Ender Hawks as a truly insensitive individual, among other things that I cannot say on these forums. After approaching the man, letting him know about my son and to let him know that he wouldnt be matching wits with me personally the first thing to come out of his mouth was "Why are you telling me this? Apparently all some people have in life is EVE and 9 accounts. You are a work of art bro.
Before you in the community ask, no I ofc wasnt looking for sympathy, and I wasnt looking for him to pull out or call a ceasefire. Thats not my style. When a Leader has to leave the theatre of war I feel it is prudent to send the word to the Opposing Leader. Simple
Forsaken Empire. This is the man you follow?
Storm Armada is in good hands until my fulltime return. My XOs know the deal, and my men are good to go. We will continue the fight against FE/CRUEL/UNASSOCIATED for IPS without falter.
The reason for this post is to let ESA enemies know that they will not be matching wits or playing chess with me as we have been doing in the past. I thank the EVE Community for everything you guys have done for me over the course of 2 and a half years, and I hope that this is something that my son can recover from so that I can get back to kicking ass, and taking names alongside my boys again.
Ill be around as I can be, but not at full force. Take it easy EVE, and keep it exciting. Please direct all ingame related questions to my XOs
Vendetta X Peter Principle Wraith Carthage TraderJohn
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Urrorur
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Urrorur on 12/01/2007 18:16:19 stupid alt default post... /delete
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James Damar
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:20:00 -
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Very sorry to hear about your son Wraith :( I wish you and your family all the best and hope it will all end well.
Cya when you get back in the game old friend
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Royaldo
Old Farts Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:21:00 -
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Edited by: Royaldo on 12/01/2007 18:23:13 I really hope everything goes well for your son.
You and me haven't always been best of friends, but hey, its a game, its about having fun right? irl>eve. Hope to see you back soon.
sidenote(my, tomorrow, 59 year old dad finally got into pvp after hooking up with you again is atm doing alot better than me on the killboard)
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Saint Battalion
Decepticons of War
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:21:00 -
[5]
GL Wraith, hope everything works out ok and your new born gets better soon.
ESA will sorly miss your leadership.
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Schmobag
Southern Cross Incorporated Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:21:00 -
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RL always first man, especially in matters as serious as this. GL to you and yours, I'm sure the boys will keep things tidy in IPS while your gone.
We'll be around as well 
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Dust Angel
Harvest System Eden's Fire
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:22:00 -
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I hope everything ends well, And your son will be in our thoughts and prayers.
mirel yirrin > "DU HAST VERBROKEN DAS FORUMERN RULEN! DU SWINE!" |

oodin
Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:22:00 -
[8]
best wishes to you and your family in rl o/
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dodge2005
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:26:00 -
[9]
best wishes to you
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HuDDy
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:29:00 -
[10]
Thoughts are with u bud and ya Family hope it turns around for you
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Lothnaug
Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:30:00 -
[11]
My thoughts are with you and your family, bud.
I truly do hope your son recovers.
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:32:00 -
[12]
I hope your son gets well 
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Al Haquis
Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:33:00 -
[13]
My thoughts are with you and your family , hope all goes well.
With love from Al Haquis
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Alphamarine
Minmatar Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:35:00 -
[14]
Hey Wraith, I can say this for the whole or EU, hope things work out mate, Life can be a total asshat sometimes.
All our best wishes go out to you and your family.
The eve stuff you wrote about is not important at this time, go be with your family.
CEO Euphoria Released |

Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:35:00 -
[15]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 12/01/2007 18:32:03
Best wishes for your son Wraith, my thoughts are with you and your family.
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:35:00 -
[16]
GL with the kid, hopefully everything turns out alright. Enemies ingame don't need to be enemies out of game.
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Calisto Cody
Minmatar The Black Swan Society
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:38:00 -
[17]
gl
Originally by: subvert
Originally by: Pwny McPwnerson I would not put a bounty on a washing machine, for instance.
if your washing machine was going around killing people you would
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Wizie
Minmatar Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:42:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Graalum GL with the kid, hopefully everything turns out alright. Enemies ingame don't need to be enemies out of game.
Or for that matter tards. (Ender)
Best wishes Wraith. ----------------- Sig removed by some noob |

Overdriver
M'8'S
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:44:00 -
[19]
Very sorry to hear about your son's problems Wraith.
I hope that he pulls through it and that he will be back home with you in good health as soon as possible. My best wishes to you and your family.
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Pallidum Treponema
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:49:00 -
[20]
My best wishes to you and your family. Take some time off. Real Life is a lot more important than Eve.
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Avernus
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:54:00 -
[21]
Best wishes from me and the lads in FIX Wraith, hoping all turns out for the best.
Av.
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Canine Fiend
Minmatar Gekidoku
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:57:00 -
[22]
I don't think I've ever run into you or your corp, but I can say with absolute certainty that no matter what goes on between two people in game, real life comes first.
Best wishes to you and your family, and I wish your son the best, from all of Gekidoku.
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Electric Cucumber
Amarr coracao ardente Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:59:00 -
[23]
GL 
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Remmington Daniels
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:00:00 -
[24]
Best wishes |

MindBender
Acheron Vanguard Armada Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:02:00 -
[25]
Hey man, best wishes. For the short time I've known ya, it's been awesome. I wish your son and your family the best. You already know ESA is behind ya all the way man... I know I will look forward to your return. --- Place Sig here (Help a man with no Sig, Eve-Mail me if you can make me one.) |

Broska
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:03:00 -
[26]
Best Wish's and from the sound of it Ender Hawks is such a Jackass it isn't worth being concened about. ------------------------------
Originally by: Tovarishch flying a Scorp into a fleet battle is like parking a pink moped in front of a biker bar - you will die... quickly.
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Butter Dog
Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:11:00 -
[27]
forgive me if I sound insenstive but why is this post needed?
if everyone in EVE came here and posted about personal RL stuff which prevents them playing, this forum would be flooded
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:13:00 -
[28]
I posted it here because RL has interfered with my EVE. Im an Alliance Leader, and semi Known to the EVE Community. ESA is entrenched in multiple wars on multiple fronts to include your very Corporation, and Alliance.
Therefore I think the post is warranted. You dont like it, I really dont give a ****
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JP Moregain
Gallente EVE Reserve Bank
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:14:00 -
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Edited by: JP Moregain on 12/01/2007 19:12:00 As a father of three (including a set of 4 month old twins) I can honestly say best wishes and Godspeed to you Wraith.
No worries on the FE, they are after all Forsaken...
JP
edit: P.S. don't respond to the bitter dog, not worth your time
http://www.evereserve.com |

Crucifier
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:17:00 -
[30]
Im sorry man  ------
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Butter Dog
Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:18:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Wraithstorm I posted it here because RL has interfered with my EVE. Im an Alliance Leader, and semi Known to the EVE Community. ESA is entrenched in multiple wars on multiple fronts to include your very Corporation, and Alliance.
Therefore I think the post is warranted. You dont like it, I really dont give a ****
ever heard of alliance mail?
sorry i just dont see why its needed or relevant to this forum
I moved house recently, I might start a thread about that
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Orion Tempest
Gallente Steel Frontier Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:19:00 -
[32]
Good luck Wraith, to you and your family.
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crice
Caldari CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:20:00 -
[33]
Quote: Forsaken Empire. This is the man you follow?
There are alot of good people in that corp as well. I have always wondered the same. Sometimes leaders are leaders in MMORPG because they have no RL, so it is by default because they have the most time.
I wish the best for your family. Let the gamer play the game, because you know you have the "IWIN" button in RL and that is more important.
crice
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Chewan Mesa
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:21:00 -
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Hope your son is getting better soon m8, g'luck. Siganture removed due to profanity - Serathu ([email protected]) |

Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:22:00 -
[35]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 12/01/2007 19:19:23
Originally by: Butter Dog
ever heard of alliance mail?
sorry i just dont see why its needed or relevant to this forum
I moved house recently, I might start a thread about that
Well you know what to do don't you.. e-mail the mods.
Maybe they will agree with you, maybe they won't. Either way you are coming across as highly insensitive, whatever your motivations are.
Its gonna be pretty sad if this thread degenerates into the usual.
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Christopher Multsanti
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Wraithstorm I posted it here because RL has interfered with my EVE. Im an Alliance Leader, and semi Known to the EVE Community. ESA is entrenched in multiple wars on multiple fronts to include your very Corporation, and Alliance.
Therefore I think the post is warranted. You dont like it, I really dont give a ****
ever heard of alliance mail?
sorry i just dont see why its needed or relevant to this forum
I moved house recently, I might start a thread about that
Don't be an arse, wether you agree with the post or not at least have a little respect.
It's great being Amarr that flys Minmintar aint it?
EVIL SYNNs > Bob are the best, we have to pay them to use the plexs...
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Helplessandlost
Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:24:00 -
[37]
Best wishes for a speedy recovery, take care of what is important...
"Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!"
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Alastorr Frost
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:25:00 -
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best of luck Wraith. Hope all goes well. Our thoughts are with you and your family.... Regards,
Frosty
U.N.A Recruitment |

zykerx
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:27:00 -
[39]
Good luck with your son m8
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Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:28:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Butter Dog
ever heard of alliance mail?
sorry i just dont see why its needed or relevant to this forum
I moved house recently, I might start a thread about that
The reason why it's ok for him to post a thread like this, and not for you to do it is simple.
He's an the leader of an alliance currently at war with several others.
You're a smacktard nub who needs a cold glass of STFU.
Galaxian Recruitment Info |
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Firane
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:29:00 -
[41]
Good luck Wraith, hope everything works out for your son.
Leave it to BD to troll a thread like this. |

Sinlare
Gallente Sinlare Auditorium
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Wraithstorm I posted it here because RL has interfered with my EVE. Im an Alliance Leader, and semi Known to the EVE Community. ESA is entrenched in multiple wars on multiple fronts to include your very Corporation, and Alliance.
Therefore I think the post is warranted. You dont like it, I really dont give a ****
ever heard of alliance mail?
sorry i just dont see why its needed or relevant to this forum
I moved house recently, I might start a thread about that
Stop being a whining inconsiderate tard. |

MindBender
Acheron Vanguard Armada Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Stamm
Originally by: Butter Dog
ever heard of alliance mail?
sorry i just dont see why its needed or relevant to this forum
I moved house recently, I might start a thread about that
The reason why it's ok for him to post a thread like this, and not for you to do it is simple.
He's an the leader of an alliance currently at war with several others.
You're a smacktard nub who needs a cold glass of STFU.
Here here... he's showing respect to all the other alliances out there that we have relations with, be it at war, or those that are our friends. Wraith has worked his ass off with this alliance and it's in damn good hands while he's away... --- Place Sig here (Help a man with no Sig, Eve-Mail me if you can make me one.) |

Logan Williams
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:33:00 -
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Best of luck, Wraith. You and your family will be in my thoughts and prayers.
To the discontents...... It freaking amazes me that just about every major alliance and corporation considers Ginger Magician a retard. Yet here, in this thread, I have seen no disrespect from him. If your so into the game that you have to belittle a man for a post about his real life, you really should go find a clinic. |

Balistic Void
Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:37:00 -
[45]
Are you the same guy that keeps making harassment petitions against us? If so Ender's reply is hardly surprising. |

ParMizaN
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:41:00 -
[46]
I find it incredibly unfathomable that Ender would be specifically malicious towards you with regards to your RL situation; Ender is a great guy, one of the best.
That's all I will say apart from that I wish you the best
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Borg017
BIG Advanced Assault
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:42:00 -
[47]
That really sux . Hope your son gets well soon. ----------------------------------------------- "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" |

Verone
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:45:00 -
[48]
All the best from Veto, and good luck to your son, here's hoping he recovers.
Take it easy mate, RL > Eve any day of the week.
NEWEST MOVIE : VETO FOR HIRE
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Gaunty
Lunar Dawn Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:46:00 -
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Wraith best of luck from the guys in ENB. I hope your kid is ok. Can i mind the exotic dancers while your gone?
This post does not represent my corp, alliance or pet cat. |

AlvynNevins
Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.12 19:54:00 -
[50]
Edited by: AlvynNevins on 12/01/2007 19:52:21 I think i speak for everyone in RATEL,
i hope your son will get well soon (asap).
Best wishes,
Alvyn
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Jhonen Senraedi
Minmatar Decimus Corp Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.01.12 20:02:00 -
[51]
Hope everything turns out well for you mate..and that in years to come..your son will be flying alongside you across our virtual galaxy.
Good Luck and Godspeed
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Baddias Mongo
Caldari Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.12 20:04:00 -
[52]
Best wishes and gl to you and your son.
----------------------------------------------- Bad Mongo |

Darknesss
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.12 20:04:00 -
[53]
I hope your kid gets better.
Butter dog, your obviously a disrespectful inconsiderate w**nker.
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.12 20:13:00 -
[54]
We all wish the youngster to get well soon.
To the smakplank butter dog - next time someone in your family is seriously ill, remember your insensitivity here and wonder open mouthed if fate has kicked you in your ugly face.
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Djihn
Caldari AirHawk Alliance Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.12 20:15:00 -
[55]
GL man, don't know ya & your post is appreciated.
in the end we're all a big love & hate family in EVE & that's why this post is warranted Butter you inconsiderate *****.
Best wishes Wraith I'm sure you & your family will be in the thoughts of many here. Hope everything works out.
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Modok Strongsauce
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.01.12 20:15:00 -
[56]
Hey Wraith,
Sorry to hear about this bud. Always have had a lot of respect for ya. EVE will be here when you get back.
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Reason Taki
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.12 20:19:00 -
[57]
Our thoughts are with you Wraith, we hope the best for your son and that he makes a speedy recovery.
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Gazmus
Caldari Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.12 20:25:00 -
[58]
Good luck mate hope everything works out well in the end.
And BD go away
Gaz
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Tissa
Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.12 20:26:00 -
[59]
My heart goes out to you wraith and my thoughts will be with you and your family.
I don't know you personally but I do know you by reputation - I have heard you described as one of the best men in eve and your word is better than all the isk in game. It is a real shame to see you leave.
My views do not represent those of my corp or alliance. (Joined UKC 19/09/06) |

britishfish
Minmatar PAX Interstellar Services Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.12 20:27:00 -
[60]
i can only hope for a full recovery for your son
all the best for you and your family
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge. - Daniel J. Boorstin |
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.01.12 20:34:00 -
[61]
Speedy recovery for your kid from StarHunt. RL comes first.
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Kespii
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.12 21:02:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Wraithstorm I posted it here because RL has interfered with my EVE. Im an Alliance Leader, and semi Known to the EVE Community. ESA is entrenched in multiple wars on multiple fronts to include your very Corporation, and Alliance.
Therefore I think the post is warranted. You dont like it, I really dont give a ****
ever heard of alliance mail?
sorry i just dont see why its needed or relevant to this forum
I moved house recently, I might start a thread about that
You have no sense of decency at all. The IAC/ISS war, the MC fiasco, and now this.....I feel sorry for you
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DirtyHarry
Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.12 21:06:00 -
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You took what he said out of context, he was merely wondering why you would contact him (out of all people) in game to tell him something so personal.
TBH it should be kept between yourself and your close online friends.
Anyhow, even though you use something so serious to try and throw dirt at our name in an online game while you should be at the hospital, I will wish you and your family all the best in this hard time.
Havocide - DirtyHarryF-E Homepage F-E Killboard |

Captain 5h4ggy
The Weavers
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Posted - 2007.01.12 21:14:00 -
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Sorry To hear about your son Wraith, i truely hope ur son Make a good recovery and get back to eve soon so i can shoot at ya some more.
Best Wishes C5 --- Keep ur Friends Close and ur Enemy's Closer
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B1G DAVE
Mining and Research Industrial Organisation Hell Hounds
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Posted - 2007.01.12 21:19:00 -
[65]
That sucks :(
BEst of luck and hope your son gets well soon
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Machiavelli7
Gallente Obsidian Asylum Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.12 21:33:00 -
[66]
Sh1t Wraith - hope it all works out ok. Was fun to fly with you again the other day.. been a while.
Mach
PS. Butter Dog - how else is he gonna provide a one-stop way of letting peeps know? He's the head of a 1300 peep alliance, with relations ( + and - ) with 1000s more. And you are? Oh.. a forum w***e. Objectivity's a ***** sometimes. |

Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.12 21:39:00 -
[67]
Good luck, Wraithstorm. I hope your son recovers and you're back soon.
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Wraithstorm I posted it here because RL has interfered with my EVE. Im an Alliance Leader, and semi Known to the EVE Community. ESA is entrenched in multiple wars on multiple fronts to include your very Corporation, and Alliance.
Therefore I think the post is warranted. You dont like it, I really dont give a ****
ever heard of alliance mail?
sorry i just dont see why its needed or relevant to this forum
I moved house recently, I might start a thread about that
Butter Dog, please learn to stop posting sometimes. You've been digging yourself a hole so deep you'll be able to fit Molle's ego in it four times over.
-[23] Member-
Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame) |

Kithren
Gallente Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.12 21:43:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Wizie
Originally by: Graalum GL with the kid, hopefully everything turns out alright. Enemies ingame don't need to be enemies out of game.
Or for that matter tards. (Ender)
Best wishes Wraith.
Get a clu **** face.
and ender is a nice guy no doubt, and your taking this all wrong m8
all that a side i hope your kid gets better ASAP and stay strong what ever happens.
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Ender Hawks
Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.12 21:43:00 -
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[ 2007.01.12 17:53:31 ] Ender Hawkins > lo [ 2007.01.12 17:53:47 ] Wraithstorm > From 1 Alliance Leader to another Im letting you know that I may not be around to match wits with you for a bit [ 2007.01.12 17:53:53 ] Wraithstorm > My son is in the hospital [ 2007.01.12 17:53:58 ] Wraithstorm > and it could be fatal [ 2007.01.12 17:54:18 ] Ender Hawkins > without sounding insensitive, why are you telling me this m8? [ 2007.01.12 17:54:18 ] Wraithstorm > So I wish you luck on the campaign, You guys are worthy opponents and ESA is better for fighting you [ 2007.01.12 17:54:32 ] Wraithstorm > Because You wont be matching wits with the top dog [ 2007.01.12 17:54:38 ] Wraithstorm > and I want you to know that [ 2007.01.12 17:54:40 ] Ender Hawkins > like I said, not here for you [ 2007.01.12 17:54:45 ] Ender Hawkins > I hope your son gets better though [ 2007.01.12 17:54:52 ] Wraithstorm > As obviously Im in Command of ESA [ 2007.01.12 17:54:59 ] Wraithstorm > I dont want you here for me bud [ 2007.01.12 17:55:04 ] Wraithstorm > Im just letting you know is all [ 2007.01.12 17:55:21 ] Wraithstorm > So you dont think youre going against the top dog [ 2007.01.12 17:55:22 ] Wraithstorm > o7
I gave my condolences and I even stated I didnt mean to sound insensitive but it struck me as odd that he would tell me this after all of the animosity he and his alliance have shown ingame.
He and his guys have been smacking me accross all of my accounts every chance they get. I alt-tab to my Hawk account in Oija and its 10 hrs of personal insults from ESA. I was amazed he would tell me this after all of the smack and personal insults his guys have thrown my way.
His son is in the hospital and yet all he can think about is letting me know I wont be "matching wits" with him anymore? That convo was not to inform me of his personal dilemma, which I am not insensitive to, it was to ensure I knew that his excuse for us pounding his dirt bag alliance into oblivion is that he was away attending to personal matters.
Comments like those from Crice only compliment the bitterness they show on TS and ingame towards F-E and myself. Both Wraithstorm and crice have insulted me personally with out of game attacks in this thread and yet its at page 4? I made a statement the other day regarding stupid individuals posting nonsense about F-E and my post was deleted five minutes later.
I have three children of my own and this outrageous slander is quite disturbing. CCP, I suggest you handle this now before I do...
 Sig nerfz0rd. Remember kids, it's 400x120 and less than 24,000 bytes (not kbytes) -Conuion Meow |

Machiavelli7
Gallente Obsidian Asylum Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.12 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Good luck, Wraithstorm. I hope your son recovers and you're back soon.
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Wraithstorm I posted it here because RL has interfered with my EVE. Im an Alliance Leader, and semi Known to the EVE Community. ESA is entrenched in multiple wars on multiple fronts to include your very Corporation, and Alliance.
Therefore I think the post is warranted. You dont like it, I really dont give a ****
ever heard of alliance mail?
sorry i just dont see why its needed or relevant to this forum
I moved house recently, I might start a thread about that
Butter Dog, please learn to stop posting sometimes. You've been digging yourself a hole so deep you'll be able to fit Molle's ego in it four times over.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.12 21:46:00 -
[71]
I hope your son pulls through m8! Best of luck and godspeed on his recovery.
Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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Boci
The Legion.
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Posted - 2007.01.12 21:47:00 -
[72]
My sincere hope is that your son gets well.
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nightjackel
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.12 21:50:00 -
[73]
Wraithstorm my prayers are with you and your family. I wish you all the best man, Be with your Family.
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Dregena
Amarr Regalis Industria Scientia Entreprendre Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.12 22:06:00 -
[74]
Best of Luck! Hope your son gets well soon.
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Brox
S.A.S Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.01.12 22:07:00 -
[75]
wish ur son well wrath.
but dont accuse ender of anything like that again, cos its clearly not true. maybe the situation in hand made u think the worst out of ur chat. read again and maybe it will become clear where he wishes ur son all the best 
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Mandrake Knight
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.01.12 22:07:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Mandrake Knight on 12/01/2007 22:04:25 Good luck, I will say a prayer.
You should expect responses like that from f-e, respect is something they don't understand, which is why I and most of eve pity them so. They just need a hug.
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Tirg
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.01.12 22:09:00 -
[77]
Thread cleaned up, and trolling removed. Please read the forum rules before posting. Don't allow a troll to get the better of you, and cause you to post things that you can be warned for. Email us a link to said post, at [email protected], and we will cheerfully take care of it:)
Erm, yeah, Wrangler says I have to say please.
Please.
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Selpy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.12 22:20:00 -
[78]
Sorry to hear something is wrong with you lad wraith 
My thought's and prayers from my family go out to you old friend.
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rodgerd
ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.12 22:32:00 -
[79]
Good luck with your son. -- Not the opinions of my corp or my alliance. |

Xanorok
Minmatar mega mining corporation Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.01.12 22:40:00 -
[80]
Wish you all the best, man.
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thebold
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2007.01.12 22:41:00 -
[81]
Wraith, Though we was once enemies, I truly hope your new child gets better!
I wouldent worry about EVE, though admirable that you still try to play, Real life can not compare to pixels!
I'd be pretty sure that all the EVE Community is behind you on that one.
Again all the best for your son.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.01.12 22:44:00 -
[82]
Good luck.
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XoPhyte
Vanguard Frontiers
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Posted - 2007.01.12 22:47:00 -
[83]
That must be really hard Wraith, best wishes to your family and son.
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Most people in eve would rather win than have a good fight 
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jenan Hyswa
Roid Terminators Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.12 22:48:00 -
[84]
Wraith, our thoughts and prays are with you and you family, we've got your back mate.
Regarding the unpleasantness on this threat, just turn your back on it, and just let them talk to your arse as you walk away.
To the rest of you, the best way to deal with the unpleasant responses is to ignore them.
"A fire without fuel and just wind soon dies."
Regards
Jenan Hyswa
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EnglishBob
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.12 23:00:00 -
[85]
Hang in there Wraith. ------------------
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Skrypt
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.12 23:03:00 -
[86]
You and your son will be in my prayers.
Take it easy, mate. ___________
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Attak
Trioptimum FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.12 23:07:00 -
[87]
All of us here in FREGE hope your son pulls through, and we wish you the best.
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Ender Hawks
Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.12 23:19:00 -
[88]
You delete my post which clearly shows Wraith as being a liar and completely blowing my comment out of proportion. Not to mention the fact that his comments were out-of-game references, harsh personal attacks, and blatent slander.
You disgust me, take your forum moderation team and go **** yourselves.
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Jezala
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe
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Posted - 2007.01.12 23:49:00 -
[89]
I have a problem with this thread. I originally thought the OP was announcing a leave of absence from the game due to a RL crisis, but after re-reading the OP I am now of the opposite opinion.
Originally by: Wraithstorm
When I play this game I am, for the most part able to seperate friendships and people from Corp/Alliance tickers, because at the end of the day regardless of what ticker you bear, you are a real person sitting behind a Computer screen. I think most people understand this to some extent
With that being said I feel it is right to name Ender Hawks as a truly insensitive individual, among other things that I cannot say on these forums. After approaching the man, letting him know about my son and to let him know that he wouldnt be matching wits with me personally the first thing to come out of his mouth was "Why are you telling me this? Apparently all some people have in life is EVE and 9 accounts. You are a work of art bro.
Before you in the community ask, no I ofc wasnt looking for sympathy, and I wasnt looking for him to pull out or call a ceasefire. Thats not my style. When a Leader has to leave the theatre of war I feel it is prudent to send the word to the Opposing Leader. Simple
Forsaken Empire. This is the man you follow?
Storm Armada is in good hands until my fulltime return. My XOs know the deal, and my men are good to go. We will continue the fight against FE/CRUEL/UNASSOCIATED for IPS without falter.
Everything in that quote was a direct attack on Ender Hawks. I'm on the opinion that Ender Hawks should be allowed to defend himself without gagging by the moderators. In addition, Wraithstorm should not be shielded from rebuke for attempting to use our sympathies of his situation and paint Ender Hawks in a negative light.
That being said, Wraithstorm, you have my sympathies and prayers that you and your family navigates through this crisis unscathed.
...and yes, we do sell and deliver ammo. 425 Express Delivery is available upon request, please see Hans Gates and Marcus Grisbius regarding this option. |

Charlie Crocodile
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.12 23:51:00 -
[90]
Good luck Wraith, I truly hope that it all works out ok
Regards,
CC
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Peeeeet
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Posted - 2007.01.12 23:55:00 -
[91]
I hope he pulls through mate!
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Sir Mumm
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Posted - 2007.01.13 00:01:00 -
[92]
My son is now 8 weeks old. Reading your lines makes me sad. Best wishes and the luck you need.
Mumm
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2007.01.13 00:13:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Jezala I'm on the opinion that Ender Hawks should be allowed to defend himself without gagging by the moderators. In addition, Wraithstorm should not be protected from rebuke for attempting to use our sympathies of his situation as a shield and be allowed paint Ender Hawks in a negative light.
E-mail the mods, discussing moderation is a pointless exercise... particularly in this thread. No good will come of it, and its against the forum rules.
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La Mila
Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.01.13 00:17:00 -
[94]
gl with your son Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serath |

DaHeaVYFo
Gallente Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.13 00:26:00 -
[95]
That's awfull to hear man. Hope to hear back from you with some good news. All the best!
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Xaintrix
The Shadow Order Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.13 00:34:00 -
[96]
#1 (as it should be) - Take care of family. RL > All.
#2 While I don't think the retort on Ender specifically was warranted, the counter response wasn't much better. Even if it were the other way around I would still see it that way. Thankfully many people responding don't even care about what may/may not have happened in-game and are only expressing their concern with that child's plight.
Let's move forward and play the game the best we can, the way we all want to. That is the only real way we will have no regrets.
Cheers,
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.13 00:51:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Wraithstorm on 13/01/2007 00:52:28 Guys, I was at the hospital all day so just did some catching up. Some of you raise a good point. In my post I do paint Ender in a negative light. That shouldnt have even been posted in the same post. I apologize to you the community, and to Ender Hawks. Regardless of what I may think of the guy it wasnt right to slander him in the same post that clearly has nothing to do with the man
Obviously I was extremely upset at what I percieved as coldheartedness of his response to me ingame, and my emotions got the better of me.
Anyone who knows me knows that I do not use underhanded tactics to put myself, my Corp and my Alliance in a better position.
With that being said I am happy to say that he is now in stable condition. The threat was Spinal Meningitis(sp?) which could ofc be fatal. This has been ruled out of what could be wrong with him. He is hospitilized under Serious, but stable condition. I thank all of you for your prayers, and your support in one of the scariest moments of my life.
Edited* Original Post edited and personal attack removed.
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Cartiff
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:02:00 -
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hope you and your family are ok wraith, take it easy fella ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
Originally by: Milivikal DeWrar GoonSwarm: powered by static electricty from polysci and law nerds rubbing stubble in thought.
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Jezala
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:05:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Wraithstorm
With that being said I am happy to say that he is now in stable condition.
Excellent news.
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Ender Hawks
Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:18:00 -
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Apology not accepted.
This was nothing more than a personal attack on my out of game personan and I will not tolerate such abuse.
In the span of six hours you went from believing your child would die and insulting me in real life to everything being okay and suddently you can play the game full-time again?
This was nothing more then a spinless propaganda attempt that seems to have worked as the community has gobbled your trash.
Going to the forums and blatantly lying about an ingame conversation and then hatefully insulting me in real life is low and disturbing. Even more disturbing is the fact that it was allowed to remain in the corporation and alliance forum and not moved to out pod.
Even more disturbing is that you and crice still have posting privileges after such hateful and spineless remarks at my personal life. I've lost all respect for this forum team and CCP in general and if the community is going to sit by and allow such behavior then I do no wish to remain apart of such a community.
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Channel ID: 2115558509 Channel Name: Private Chat (Wraithstorm) Listener: Ender Hawkins Session started: 2007.01.12 17:53:19 ---------------------------------------------------------------
[ 2007.01.12 17:53:27 ] Wraithstorm > Hey man [ 2007.01.12 17:53:31 ] Ender Hawkins > lo [ 2007.01.12 17:53:47 ] Wraithstorm > From 1 Alliance Leader to another Im letting you know that I may not be around to match wits with you for a bit [ 2007.01.12 17:53:53 ] Wraithstorm > My son is in the hospital [ 2007.01.12 17:53:58 ] Wraithstorm > and it could be fatal [ 2007.01.12 17:54:18 ] Ender Hawkins > without sounding insensitive, why are you telling me this m8? [ 2007.01.12 17:54:18 ] Wraithstorm > So I wish you luck on the campaign, You guys are worthy opponents and ESA is better for fighting you [ 2007.01.12 17:54:32 ] Wraithstorm > Because You wont be matching wits with the top dog [ 2007.01.12 17:54:38 ] Wraithstorm > and I want you to know that [ 2007.01.12 17:54:40 ] Ender Hawkins > like I said, not here for you [ 2007.01.12 17:54:45 ] Ender Hawkins > I hope your son gets better though [ 2007.01.12 17:54:52 ] Wraithstorm > As obviously Im in Command of ESA [ 2007.01.12 17:54:59 ] Wraithstorm > I dont want you here for me bud [ 2007.01.12 17:55:04 ] Wraithstorm > Im just letting you know is all [ 2007.01.12 17:55:21 ] Wraithstorm > So you dont think youre going against the top dog [ 2007.01.12 17:55:22 ] Wraithstorm > o7
What part of "I hope your son gets better" were you confused by? I'm seriously offended by your remarks (and that of others) and that they were allowed to remain for so long....
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Balistic Void
Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:24:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Balistic Void on 13/01/2007 01:24:23 We aren't insensitive at all Wraith. We just don't believe most of the bull**** people spew at us. Your alliance smacktalks in local all the time, and you seem to be giving the whole character assassination thing on forums a go as well. Keep it in game (and NO that doesn't mean local).
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:28:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Wraithstorm on 13/01/2007 01:26:04 I can see that this is going to go downhill pretty quickly.
1- Yep, youre absolutely right this morning I was told that my son could have spinal Meningitis which is a very very bad thing. Within the 6 hours you speak of he was poked, prodded, stuck, and pinned to eliminate the possibility of this, however he still remains in serious condition. Where do I say that I will be playing fulltime right now? Where do I say that he is out of the woods yet?
2- You can post the chatlog all you want bud. The community jumped on me for including my thoughts on you, and as such I have done what I could to rectify the situation. I clearly state that my emotions got the best of me. Has this never happened to you?
3- Dont flatter yourself. You are NOWHERE near important enough for me to base such a post on. I dont need to come on the forums and slander you Ender. Most of the community know what kind of person you are.
My apology was genuine. You dont accept it thats fine bro. I have bigger things in my life to worry about right now then you.
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Balistic Void
Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:29:00 -
[103]
No he doesn't look insensitive. You look like a fool now.
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Fulmen
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:31:00 -
[104]
Regardless of what this thread has turned into, I will pray for you and your son. I do not know you, but I do know your pain. I'm glad that he's in stable condition but even still, the following prayer is very powerful as it teaches us that struggles in life make us stronger.
Build me a son, O Lord, who will be strong enough to know when he is weak, brave enough to face himself when he is afraid,
Build me a son, whose wishes will not take the place of deeds...
Lead him, I pray, not in the path of ease and comfort, but under the stress and spur of difficulties and challenges.
Let him learn to stand in the storm; let him learn compassion for those who fall.
Build me a son, whose heart is clear, whose goals will be high a son who will master himself before he seeks to master others; who will reach into the future, yet never forget the past.
And after all these things are his, I pray, he has enough of a sense of humor so that he may always be serious yet never take himeself too seriously... Then, I, his father will dare to whisper, "I have not lived in vain."
I have prayed this for you and your family in your time of need.
Be strong m8.
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Stonie001101
Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:33:00 -
[105]
I feel sorry for your situation Wraith n i hope your kid gets better but i am extremely offended how you have exploited this in attempt to give my ceo Ender hawks and F-E in general bad puplicity.
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Ender Hawks
Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:34:00 -
[106]
You've achieved your objective, Wraith.
I dont give a **** what the community thinks ingame, but to come to such conclusions, that I'm an insensitive individual and "other things you cant mention on these forums", seems very insensitive and without warrant.
I said I hope your child gets better, period. There is not disputing that, its in teh chat log. You have no ground to stand on as I made no personal attack against you are your son.
Whatever reason for your insults it seems to stem from some "other" personal grievence you have for me as it surely cannot be in regards to your son.
I am not the hateful, insensitive bastard here, you are buddy. It sickens me that you still come here with your propaganda and conjecture.
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:40:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Stonie001101 I feel sorry for your situation Wraith n i hope your kid gets better but i am extremely offended how you have exploited this in attempt to give my ceo Ender hawks and F-E in general bad puplicity.
Once again Stonie I apologize to you, and your Corporation. I did not in my original post mention Forsaken Empire as a whole, but I can see how I may have given you bad light.
There is obviously bad blood between Ender, and myself and I shouldnt have entered it into the equation. I have to live with that, however for him to insinuate that my post was an attempt to get at him is ridiculous when I post on these forums less then most people.
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Carebear1980
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:40:00 -
[108]
I hope your kid gets better Wraithstorm. ::Definition of a Tool::
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Balistic Void
Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:40:00 -
[109]
Things that cannot be mentioned: ESA getting all their members to petition everything we say. Extremely lame. GMs siding against FE in this matter (oops discussing moderation).
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:43:00 -
[110]
Ill reply to you Ender once more before letting this die as the thread is sure to be locked momentarily.
Have you ever been in a conversation, and you hear something that ticks you off so bad that you arent listening to anything else the person is saying? You are so upset that you just arent paying attention. Well bud thats what Happened to me. I apologized to you for it, however at this point it makes no sense to do so again.
I didnt even realize that you said Good luck with my son bro, and thats the truth. My mistake, and as I said if it paints me in a negative light then I have to live with that.
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:44:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Balistic Void Things that cannot be mentioned: ESA getting all their members to petition everything we say. Extremely lame. GMs siding against FE in this matter (oops discussing moderation).
Do you really want to go there with me bro? You have your allies bumping my men off gates in Empire during our war, and you say we are lame? You hack onto our TS server right BEFORE we jump into your fleet and ban all of the people and we are lame? We STILL defeated you, without voice comms, and we are lame?
Take that stuff elsewhere bud. You have no grounds to talk.
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Balistic Void
Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:50:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Balistic Void on 13/01/2007 01:47:09 We must be playing a different game.
At least we don't include "teh petition" in our arsenal.
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Choi
Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:50:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Choi on 13/01/2007 01:47:08
Originally by: Wraithstorm
Do you really want to go there with me bro? You have your allies bumping my men off gates in Empire during our war, and you say we are lame? You hack onto our TS server right BEFORE we jump into your fleet and ban all of the people and we are lame? We STILL defeated you, without voice comms, and we are lame?
Take that stuff elsewhere bud. You have no grounds to talk.
Dont forget our bob dev alts you claim we have as well.
oh and our magic pixie hats that make insta lag.
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:51:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Wraithstorm You have your allies bumping my men off gates in Empire during our war
thats called "tactics"
and since this thread has descended into oblivion, we need some heavy moderation and/or lock.
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Balistic Void
Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:51:00 -
[115]
Oh and I have hax that make u never catch meH  
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:52:00 -
[116]
If I have any grounds to I request this thread locked at the mods earliest convenience. It has turned into a sausage fest, and I apologize for any part I played in it.
Thank you
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Stonie001101
Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.13 01:53:00 -
[117]
I know we all make mistakes mate, i can understand why you could get mad in this situation. But looking at the original post you get the feeling you just made that post to shoot at ender.
The hacking is plain wrong as far as i know. Don't accuse us of cheap tricks when your own members have been mass convo'ing our pilots as well during fights.
The results of 1 battle does not decide the winner. Looking at the overall kill/death ratio we come on top by far. I am going to sleep now. Tbh i hardly ever post to the forums, this must be my 4th or 5th post. I felt compelled to respond to your attacks on Ender since they were quite harsh and uncalled for.
Again i hope your kid will be ok but please stop this nonesense and grudge against ender :)
Stonie
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civari
Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.01.13 02:16:00 -
[118]
Hey Wraith,
Hope your son is getting better, and you and your family gets through this on top of things.
Best wishes from your two buddies in Norway.
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Gabba
Species 5618
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Posted - 2007.01.13 02:17:00 -
[119]
Hope all goes well.
Gabba
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Gaunty
Lunar Dawn Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.13 02:25:00 -
[120]
Peace guys, flames don't belong in this topic, apologies have been made, any problems lets sort them out on the battlefield in game. 
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Balistic Void
Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.13 02:26:00 -
[121]
Sure, but that means no "local fighting" and no F12 ok?
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.13 02:35:00 -
[122]
I'll spare a prayer that your son will be okay mate, family 1st, always
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Conuion Meow
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.01.13 02:44:00 -
[123]
Locked at the request of the OP *clickety*
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