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Mr Horizontal
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Posted - 2007.01.13 23:23:00 -
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Guys, I'm getting RSI picking up all the salvage... can we have som salvage drones to do the dirty work, just like the miners have their little helpers?
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Mr Horizontal
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Posted - 2007.01.13 23:23:00 -
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Guys, I'm getting RSI picking up all the salvage... can we have som salvage drones to do the dirty work, just like the miners have their little helpers?
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mightymadmat
Amarr
Ma-Ven Industries
Phobos Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 01:38:00 -
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I like that idea. It will save alot of time
Mighty Mad Mat
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Sir Drake
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Posted - 2007.01.14 08:39:00 -
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Yeah, that would be nice, at least i wouldnt need to either grab the salvage ship i fitted nor mess up my hunting setup.
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I like that. 
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Selaik
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Posted - 2007.03.10 22:10:00 -
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i Agree completely that there should be salvage drones it takes to long going round salvaging everything special on lvl4 missions
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EvilTwin I
Twin Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.12 00:05:00 -
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agree .. good idea
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Otto Maharg
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:13:00 -
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Signed.
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Saint Lazarus
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Posted - 2007.03.12 10:24:00 -
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Tis a cool idea
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Vincent Almasy
Gallente
The Underground
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Posted - 2007.03.12 15:24:00 -
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You have to clal them Collector but also the problem is that would have to be heavy or larger drones as they would need a small cargo bay fo their own to take in all of the rig parts, but also all of the cargo in the wreck.
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Lifewringer
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:48:00 -
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I agree that I personally would like to see a salvage drone but wonder how it will affect the economy for the prices of salvage parts. I predict that prices will fall dramatically when the market gets flooded because salvage materials available go up enormously....maybe that is a good thing.
And since the Drones will have a cargo bay maybe you can put minerals in them to haul more. Probably would only be worthwhile in a carrier but I am sure someone will try it.
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Vincent Almasy
Gallente
The Underground
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Posted - 2007.03.12 19:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Lifewringer
I agree that I personally would like to see a salvage drone but wonder how it will affect the economy for the prices of salvage parts. I predict that prices will fall dramatically when the market gets flooded because salvage materials available go up enormously....maybe that is a good thing.
And since the Drones will have a cargo bay maybe you can put minerals in them to haul more. Probably would only be worthwhile in a carrier but I am sure someone will try it.
Not really have them act like mining drones. No space added. Large drones to account in a 20m3 and even with this items like large SBs would not be able to be picked up as it is 50m3.
Have the drone not be able to take things and become idle if you have a fullbay.
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Imhothar Xarodit
Minmatar
Wolverine Solutions
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.13 01:25:00 -
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Edited by: Imhothar Xarodit on 13/03/2007 01:22:28
Originally by: Vincent Almasy
You have to clal them Collector but also the problem is that would have to be heavy or larger drones as they would need a small cargo bay fo their own to take in all of the rig parts, but also all of the cargo in the wreck.
If you take a look at drones' attributes, they all already have a cargo bay capacity of 1200m¦. All of them. Mining skills only determine how much they can rip of a asteroid.
But I see another problem, what do you do when you cargo cannot hold what the drone salvaged or looted? Right now you can leave it in the wreck to get it later.
Imagine you just killed 4 Battleships and they all carry 10x Cap Booster 800 (1280m¦ total, not including other items and salvage). So after your 4 drones return, they hold more items than you could hold in your battleships. What do they do?
Simply *poof* drop the pretty faction items in space unrecoverable (like mining drones would do it), jettison it into a can or what?
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Vincent Almasy
Gallente
The Underground
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Posted - 2007.03.13 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Imhothar Xarodit
Edited by: Imhothar Xarodit on 13/03/2007 01:22:28
Originally by: Vincent Almasy
You have to clal them Collector but also the problem is that would have to be heavy or larger drones as they would need a small cargo bay fo their own to take in all of the rig parts, but also all of the cargo in the wreck.
If you take a look at drones' attributes, they all already have a cargo bay capacity of 1200m¦. All of them. Mining skills only determine how much they can rip of a asteroid.
But I see another problem, what do you do when you cargo cannot hold what the drone salvaged or looted? Right now you can leave it in the wreck to get it later.
Imagine you just killed 4 Battleships and they all carry 10x Cap Booster 800 (1280m¦ total, not including other items and salvage). So after your 4 drones return, they hold more items than you could hold in your battleships. What do they do?
Simply *poof* drop the pretty faction items in space unrecoverable (like mining drones would do it), jettison it into a can or what?
1200m3 now that is a clear error that needs to be removed because drones only take up 5, 10 or 25m3.. tell me how 1200m3 fits into 5m3?
As for they getting usless items... /me pounders.
How about having them act as mini jetcans then enstead, and once they return they can not unload into you quickly but you open their inventory what what you want them to put into your cargo and then you can make a jetcan and put what you don't want there.
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John McDuff
Caldari
Jovian Labs
The Foundation.
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Posted - 2007.03.13 14:22:00 -
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I like the idea but i don't see why they should get the cargo from the wrecks as well. Pre-wrecks we had to loot missions and there wasn't that much complaining, especially with the introduction of the tractor beam. Its just the damn salvaging that works awkward and costs the huge amounts of time. Drones salvaging all emptied wrecks on their own would be a fine addition imo, just leave the looting to the player like we were used to.
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elohalott
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Posted - 2007.03.16 21:15:00 -
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And its also would be nice, if there were looting drones, which ones collects the loot. 
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Raoden Tanstaafl
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.17 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: Raoden Tanstaafl on 17/03/2007 19:25:18
Can we have looting drones as well?
For all the same reasons you state for Salvaging Drones can be applied to looting as well... Just an idle thought...
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Kitiara Armitage
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Posted - 2007.03.18 04:58:00 -
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/signed
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Strikeclone
The Steel Ravens
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Posted - 2007.03.18 06:12:00 -
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Edited by: Strikeclone on 18/03/2007 06:12:24
Originally by: John McDuff
I like the idea but i don't see why they should get the cargo from the wrecks as well. Pre-wrecks we had to loot missions and there wasn't that much complaining, especially with the introduction of the tractor beam. Its just the damn salvaging that works awkward and costs the huge amounts of time. Drones salvaging all emptied wrecks on their own would be a fine addition imo, just leave the looting to the player like we were used to.
people have been asking for looting drones forever, before and after the introduction of the tractor beam.
The more control we have over the game enviroment and the more choice we have in tactical loadouts the better.
I sigh on for salvage drone that loot as well.
PS we could add a drone command option to
"loot to ship"
Drone continues to loot and salvage bringing items back to the controlling ship. Once cargo space is full on ship the drones return to orbit and await more space in cargo hold or for new orders. If ordered to return to hangar drones will disgard any loot they are carrying and it will be lost (same as for mining drones i think)
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Revolution Rising
Minmatar
Venture Research and Resources
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Posted - 2007.03.18 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: Strikeclone
The more control we have over the game enviroment and the more choice we have in tactical loadouts the better.
Exactly.
RR
CEO Venture Research and Resources.
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raven415
Caldari
Special Projects Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.18 12:00:00 -
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Why not a remote tractor drone. a drone that goes to a wreck and "tows" it back to you
speed would depend on size vs size ie large drone pulling small wreck faster then small drone pulling large wreck. yes i suggest 3 sizes. could also make drones draw power (cap) from its mother ship.
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Galdaron xax
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Posted - 2007.03.20 08:39:00 -
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while we are at it why not make customable drones?? so you could fit a mining laser for mining drones a salvager for salvaging etc (and mod available in frig size)
make the drones small ships with mod slots.
defining the role they are going to do
the bigger the drone the bigger the mod that can be installed
1 issue I haven't figured out is ammo but perhaps let them use the noobs version (they always have ammo)
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minerdave
Gallente
Ma-Ven Industries
Phobos Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.20 10:26:00 -
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agreed signed
(shame the would be no good on indys though  )
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Tian Xiao
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.20 12:39:00 -
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Great idea.
The only problem from a balance level, is that ships without drone bays are at a significant disadvantage.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2007.03.20 14:04:00 -
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Collector drones I think is a good idea. However limit it where they can't loot, they can just salvage the ship. Salvage itself doesn't take much space.
I'd make them large drones.
Anyway a good idea.
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Simuun
Dark Future Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.20 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: Simuun on 20/03/2007 14:47:32
Revelation 1.4
Wrecks that contain loot can now be salvaged without having to remove the loot first.
Drones can salvage the wreck and leave the loot in a can
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My Li
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Posted - 2007.03.20 19:25:00 -
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Now that you can Salvage without Looting a wreck (latest Patch) make Salvage Drones available.
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Galdaron xax
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Posted - 2007.03.21 10:35:00 -
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to solve the no-drone bay problem on certain ships.insert a low slot mod that adds a certain amount of drone space.A sort of drone cargo pod
you would get 5m3 for a small mod
10m3 for medium 20m3 for a large mod
this would allow for ships to have at least one drone :) (or a few depending on the size)
not sure many would be happy to offer up a low slot for it but we already offer a high slot for range on these drones
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velocity7
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Posted - 2007.03.21 13:22:00 -
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/signed
Give us drones that salvage and loot.
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Surana Koburo
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Posted - 2007.03.25 16:01:00 -
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Salvaging and Looting drones would be cool, I think when they come back and there's no more space in the hold, the basic ones should lose the loot, but advanced ones could have pods that are jettisoned. Mining drones could be set up the same way. Give them a maximum number of pods (maybe just one) and a maximum pod size that would be the most they could fill. So basically if they all come back from a trip and there's no room, they could drop their pod and continue to fill it, if you aren't around to stop them anything they bring back after their pod is filled is lost.
Basically it gives you one chance to stop them from losing your loot. I wouldn't make them stop because if they did that you couldn't lose any loot and it would promote walking away. Making them lose all the loot automatically is a little unfair (but ok for low level drones) because you don't know what is out there until you get it back to the ship, but if you're dumb enough to leave a drone salvaging after your hold is filled up and the drone has dropped it's pod you're taking your chances. Oh and once a drone drops their pod they can only grab 1 item per trip. (they use the arms that hold the pod).
Oh and as for how a drone can have 1200 m3 of cargo space when they only take up 4 m3, I've always seen them as carrying the stuff outside of their hulls, which is why you can't use that space for storage while travelling, they just strap the minerals to the outside of the drone in a big collapsible bag.
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Trovax
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Posted - 2007.03.27 16:26:00 -
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1200m3 now that is a clear error that needs to be removed because drones only take up 5, 10 or 25m3.. tell me how 1200m3 fits into 5m3?
As for them getting usless items... /me pounders.
How about having them act as mini jetcans then enstead, and once they return they can not unload into you quickly but you open their inventory what what you want them to put into your cargo and then you can make a jetcan and put what you don't want there.
The same way you can fit 27500m3 into a floaty can, when a 25m3 drone is visbly bigger
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