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baltec1
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Posted - 2015.12.11 17:17:14 -
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All of these ideas are terrible.
Battleships are fine, the reason why a lot of people think they are no good is because they don't take the time to learn to use them. For example;
Valacus wrote:
Only interceptors shouldn't be able to tackle with impunity. RLML and RHML weapons are the only option for defending yourself against frigate sized ships, which means there needs to be MORE weapons like them, not less.
I alpha'ed a MWDing bomber using citadel cruise missiles. Close range turret BS will also work on frigates if you fly and fit your battleship so it can do the job.
Valacus wrote: And just because you can fit medium sized guns or launchers on a battleship doesn't make it viable, because you don't carry over your gun bonuses that cruiser sized ships have, meaning a cruiser has both more alpha and more dps than you. Well, that isn't gonna cut it. Not even against frigates.
One of the most fun ships I have ever flown was an armour buffer, rapid light missile spewing neut raven armed with a whole raft of tackle gear. Chewed up frigates like no tomorrow.
All battleships are viable and there are a lot of options for things to do with them from solo to small gang to fleet engagements. The only problem is frigate and cruiser pilots don't want to take the time and spend the isk learning how to fly battleships
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baltec1
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Posted - 2015.12.11 19:37:53 -
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Linna Excel wrote:
For PvP purposes, using a battleship when you aren't in the richest alliance in the game that can reimburse anything short of a supercarrier or titan is very risky. If you can make 100 million isk/hour or more, sure you can afford to lose a battleship or two in pvp.
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I don't get strategic ship replacement and I earn my isk in highsec level 4s and level 3s.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2015.12.22 08:23:45 -
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Vailen Sere wrote:Reaver Glitterstim wrote: I would agree that almost all battleships are viable...there's just one that I wouldn't call viable. That one is the Scorpion.
It isn't merely viable. It is extraordinarily powerful for how cheap it is. Viable is an understatement of epic proportions. Be very afraid of the armor Scorpion because it heralds a time when Caldari ships can drop their shields and still kill you harder than you've ever been killed before.
This Viability rests solely in the pilots training though, because with poor skills, it is merely a cheaper BS coffin. And it does very poorly against BS's what it's designed to do.
BS aren't supposed to be flown in pvp with low skills
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baltec1
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Posted - 2015.12.24 12:05:13 -
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Vailen Sere wrote: You must not check killboards, but we are talking about a caldari with an Armor tank. How often you see one with that?
I once did an armour raven for anti frig work, lots of fun.
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Posted - 2015.12.24 17:27:01 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:
I have a RLML Barghest I fit out 2 days ago. I'm just waiting for the chance to use it. You (especially you) need to look into one of these bad girls.
Its a ship I have never had the chance to try out in my own special way yet.
[Raven, Nevermore] 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive Large Micro Jump Drive Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Warp Scrambler II Heavy Capacitor Booster II,Cap Booster 400
Heavy Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer Heavy Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer Heavy Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer Rapid Light Missile Launcher II,Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II,Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II,Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II,Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Give it a try, brilliant fun.
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Posted - 2015.12.24 17:43:01 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:I wasnt arguing that a purpose fit BS can kill a T3 with a generalised fit. I was telling moac tor that hes never put a typical mega against a typical proteus. Cause if he did he'd realise that a mega does not stomp a proteus in a brawl, let alone all the other things the T3 has going for it.
As for your reply, i seem to have a broader knowledge of BS's and the T3's than yourself since the 'reasonably fit mega' comes with no neuts. The only reason it would is if you were expecting to need neuts so badly you'd drop a turret hard point. Like wise, the proteus probably wouldnt even have the mid slots to fit a cap booster. Typical brawl fits have three mids.
If I'm taking a mega out solo I would fit a neut
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