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Goca Minmatar Steel Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.14 21:33:00 - [31] Originally by: El*** Ethenwe* Fla. its a game. A game your losing fast. death threts are petty and foolish. Progect gemini are now blue to us, and you are red. (youve been neutral for the last month of us shooting you. now we'll make an effort :) well let's hope it's a little more effort then the last month then.. I think rats have killed more FLA ships then u guys... I is Goca
Daedal Virtu Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.14 21:34:00 - [32] As the leader of FLA I can confirm that Demarcus and PG stole alliance assets and ran. I can also confirm that the loss has already been largly replaced by the great people of FLA. Its also true that after a shaky start we have one of the best track records against Burn Eden. People keep thinking were down and out, think again. All this did is concrete our resolve and encourage us to work together more. To whoever hired Burn Eden, we thank you for helping us prepare for war. Our internal problems have faded away to create and alliance that works together for common goals. To our allies and friends, we will still be here holding our space when BoB comes and helping you hold yours. To Demarcus and PG we have nothing more to say. FLA One http://fla.killerspace.com/forum/ <No tree's were harmed during this transmission. However, a great number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced>
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.01.14 21:38:00 - [33] Originally by: Demarcus FLA, thank you for your 8 billion isk and the two dreads. That was way to kind of a going away present. But no worries you will get to see your isk in space soon. We were going to leave it with robbing you blind but real life death threats are something I will not accept. Quote: [ 2007.01.14 19:02:47 ] Stitcher > btw Demarcus - you're a dead man. [ 2007.01.14 19:02:58 ] Demarcus2 > lol [ 2007.01.14 19:03:01 ] Stitcher > not in0game, in real life. I made a call Demarcus Well, I guess you're dirty thieves. But Sticher is an idiot. Somehow I don't expect them to have really put a hit on you. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The A-Team. EvePlayer3878984 - Hi. Is that the A-Team? Hannibal (Dressed as an alligator) - Yeah EvePlayer3878984 - Someone blew up my hauler. Hannibal (Lighting a cigar) - When, where, we need times, dates and the lossmail! EvePlayer3878984 - It was full of torpedoes for my raven :( Hannibal (Blowing out smoke) - I'll get in my Absolution, Face will get in his Taranis, BA will get in his Carrier and Murdock will get in his Bantam, and we'll be right on it. EvePlayer3878984 - You're my savior! Hannibal (Cigar between teeth) - I love it when a plan comes together! Galaxian Recruitment Info
Laboratus Gallente BGG	Posted - 2007.01.14 21:51:00 - [34] Somehow the descisions ppl make never stop to amaze me. In this game, the only things you really have and can not be replaced are your word, honor and reputation. Once they are gone, that's it. The loss of credibility is kinda worse than any financial loss you can suffer in the game. After that. Good luck using that character. __ These are all my opinions, I do not represent my corp in this matter. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
WolfRavage	Posted - 2007.01.14 21:55:00 - [35] First off if people are smart and not stupid and selfishe or hotheaded they will never or ever thrust people like demarcus ever !! , cause for all you know he's gonna do the same thing with the new alliance he's gonna join and it's also a kinda warning for the people who let them in a alliance or gonna create a alliance with him , people trusted him all the way and doing a thing like this it makes the person have a bad ego from himself and he has himself to tank for, that was one of the really lowest of the lowest thing someone can do who does not have any honor at all or dignity what so ever. , People like this are not needed in this game it ruines people game of playing like i said we don't want people like that on this game , many people in the alliance are **ed off at demarcus of doing this stunt i can't blame him ,what would you do if you know someone well and that you thrust 110% all the way and then stole ever or a item that you only wanted for your self ?? (IMO i would be very ed off)but back to the demarcus subject eum yea not mutch more to say to this but let this be a warning to the next people or even he's corp members that trusted him or still do i would reconsider thinking twice now if i were you and for the next people cause i would not trust him for now or forever and if someone does or a alliance does or a corp that wants to make a alliance with him then it's your problem at the end but i warned ya. nothing for me more to say. -Wolf Originally by:** Demarcus FLA, thank you for your 8 billion isk and the two dreads. That was way to kind of a going away present. But no worries you will get to see your isk in space soon. We were going to leave it with robbing you blind but real life death threats are something I will not accept. Quote: [ 2007.01.14 19:02:47 ] Stitcher > btw Demarcus - you're a dead man. [ 2007.01.14 19:02:58 ] Demarcus2 > lol [ 2007.01.14 19:03:01 ] Stitcher > not in0game, in real life. I made a call Demarcus
Elfaen Ethenwe Eternal Rising	Posted - 2007.01.14 21:55:00 - [36] Sadly elf, paltar, even Demarcus and your little followers it's not working, all you have achieved is making FLA run more efficientlythe Fantastic. i got mentioned. To bring those up to speed who havnt been in game long, myself, paltar and xxangelxx were the fleet commanders for the fla. the As during the time we were the, the pilots who were willing to pvp were not as experienced as other through no fault of there's. we blobbed our way o securing the north for a few months at least. we were for the most part un-opposed and forged relations with other, newer corps within the north (not just us alone. this was a group effort). I dont believe in airing your personal problems with the world. but for ligitimate reason we left. Setting the north red. If you care to view your own killboards fla. you'll see why im struggling to find this efficiancy you speak of. in fact. you are the softest targets in eve. We spent the past few weeks using you to train new pilots, develop new tactics and try proven ones that others use in game. we have a 74% efficiancy on you. in short, you suck. you spend far too long arguing amoungst yourself over who gets to be wing leader. while we wander unopposed through your systems. im only typing this as our pilots have now developed to an extent that we need a bigger challange. if ou cant do that. we'll happily help having you removed from your home systems. so someone else with the skill to hold it can have a go.
Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.14 21:59:00 - [37] setting FLA to red. Thieving is one tihng, silly RL stuff is just that - silly. _
DarkShakkra	Posted - 2007.01.14 21:59:00 - [38] Well soory for saying but .PG. had once of most profitable day. To you, it's the lost of big assets, and a corp that tried to help in situation were nothing could be done to begin with. In reality and you know it ...FLA alliance hardly have more than 200 active player, where the 3/4 of them are industralist that hide during ""CALL TO ARM"", leaving you with 30-40 ppl at most anyway. Internal discord was going on even before we left and some of your member corp couldnt refrain from doing stupid mistake all the time. As a corp we did what was the best for us And being BAD GUYS is soo much more fun than trying to defend the carebear mining in o-2/3jn There is still too much to be made for me to call what is left a alliance anyway.....NO you are NOT ready for a War agaisnt BOB and you know it.......unless IRON AND D2 help. Look foward to us P.S: Nothing refrain you from wardecing us if you guys are so angry....and sooooo powerfull A GAME IS A GAME. DaRkShAkKrA
Domosan Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:06:00 - [39] Originally by: DarkShakkra Well soory for saying but .PG. had once of most profitable day. To you, it's the lost of big assets, and a corp that tried to help in situation were nothing could be done to begin with. In reality and you know it ...FLA alliance hardly have more than 200 active player, where the 3/4 of them are industralist that hide during ""CALL TO ARM"", leaving you with 30-40 ppl at most anyway. Internal discord was going on even before we left and some of your member corp couldnt refrain from doing stupid mistake all the time. As a corp we did what was the best for us And being BAD GUYS is soo much more fun than trying to defend the carebear mining in o-2/3jn There is still too much to be made for me to call what is left a alliance anyway.....NO you are NOT ready for a War agaisnt BOB and you know it.......unless IRON AND D2 help. Look foward to us P.S: Nothing refrain you from wardecing us if you guys are so angry....and sooooo powerfull A GAME IS A GAME. DaRkShAkKrA Live by the sword, die by the sword. The largest part of the assets you stole were my personal donations to the alliance. You have now totally and completely ****ed me off. Be prepared to be hounded for as long as my wallet allows me, and just to let you know, my wallet will allow me to hound you for a very, very long time. Any mercs out there need work? Feel free to send me mails with any offers, both 0.0 and empire See you in space
WolfRavage Shadow Eden Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:06:00 - [40] Name 1 reason ? they been talking about making the fla better and all athor crap to say to our allinace member to believe in Lib and Dem , i want to see how you would be when someone does that to you and Look who's talking Originally by: XxAngelxX Wow, been quite a ride for FLA recently. I've watched an alliance I once put my all into fall apart from the inside. I've seen great leaders step down, and those with false hopes and over-zealous opinions of themselves take their place. Dem & Lib, Im sure you had your reasons, and I hope the game is more fun for you now you aren't fighting for something FLA could never obtain.
Otto Torivus Species 5618	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:09:00 - [41] Well, I guess you're dirty thieves. But Sticher is an idiot. Somehow I don't expect them to have really put a hit on you. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The A-Team. EvePlayer3878984 - Hi. Is that the A-Team? Hannibal (Dressed as an alligator) - Yeah EvePlayer3878984 - Someone blew up my hauler. Hannibal (Lighting a cigar) - When, where, we need times, dates and the lossmail! EvePlayer3878984 - It was full of torpedoes for my raven :( Hannibal (Blowing out smoke) - I'll get in my Absolution, Face will get in his Taranis, BA will get in his Carrier and Murdock will get in his Bantam, and we'll be right on it. EvePlayer3878984 - You're my savior! Hannibal (Cigar between teeth) - I love it when a plan comes together! We have a winner! Four out of five Minmatar say the signature sucks. Film at eleven.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:11:00 - [42] Edited by: Patch86 on 14/01/2007 22:11:48 Oh well, its just a few billion. A bugger, but nothing to write to the grandparents about. Ont eh other hand, good luck getting any alliance to trust you with funds again, you pesky thief, you. On the whole, most decent alliances don't touch corp theives with 10 foot poles, so good luck with that EDIT: Also, for anyone who REALLY needs it spelling out to them- Stitcher wasn't actually being serious A thousand and one apologies, Demarcus, if he offended your fragile little senses, he will be taken out back and given a thorough talking to immediately.............. -----------------------------------------------
Stitcher Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:18:00 - [43] Originally by: Sergio Ling setting FLA to red. Thieving is one tihng, silly RL stuff is just that - silly. I'm sorry, but are you sure you aren't overreacting? I've apologized. The so-called "Death Threat" was a joke that Demarcus has taken and blown WAY out of proportion for the sole purpose of getting me into trouble that I don't deserve. It's taken out of context, and is being used as a weapon to make the whole alliance look bad, unfairly. I appreciate full well that it was a tasteless and stupid joke, but honestly, setting a whole alliance to red because one guy ran his mouth off? That's not justice, to me that smacks of just grabbing hold of the first weak excuse that came your way. If that's an inaccurate assessment, then I apologise further, but nevertheless, this whole thing is making a mountain out of a molehill. Which is made even worse because some people seem to be taking it as being more important than the theft perpetrated against us by Project Gemini. It seems to me that your priorities are askew. +++ FLA - The hardest thing in EVE is to be the good guys.
Tarphon Caldari Realm of Majestic Empire	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:22:00 - [44] Well TBH the FLA had made some great improvements, when the arrogant blame laying want to be leaders left the alliance after causing a lot of internal strife. Jacor and Demarcus were elected as president and vice president. The diplomatic corps were reconstituted and the fleet started getting a fresh overhaul. Undergoing a cleaning to remove alt spies left in the alliance by the disgruntled ex-members and the constant attacks from those bent on trying to stop FLA from achieving what they themselves could not, FLA has continued to fight and work forward regardless of the obstacle. We took our lumps and considered that training or just lessons learned. FLA has taken everything in stride and tried to learn and grow from it, and this will continue. FLA has been betrayed before and has been attacked too many times to count. Perhaps itÆs a curse, but you have to respect the fact that everyone in FLA gets back up, dust themselves off and tries again, a little harder and a little smarter having learned a new lesson. Demarcus what you have done is worse than anything that has happened to FLA, you as a elected leader, someone that was respected and trusted. Decided you werenÆt having fun and wanted to ruin the trust and hard work of others. You really hurt those that trusted and cared about you, Slink worked very hard to help the people in FLA in and out of the game and it takes a sick individual to make her cry like you did. I pity you and I pity those that would trust you in the future who might become your next victim if you get bored again. You werenÆt paid to do this, you werenÆt role playing, this is just who you areà who you truly are. You shouldnÆt be proud of what you accomplished, anybody can steal from their family and friends. Most donÆt because they know its crossing a line, just like in this game, you crossed that line. As for Stitchers comment it mirrored a joke on the FLA forums that was quite funny if taken in context with the rest of the tread, it gave people a quick laugh they needed after the betrayal. TBH IÆm still not convinced that he didnÆt still have access at that point and know about the joke, wouldnÆt be the first time he lied now would it. Oh and Elf, you canÆt count your kills while you were in FLA as part of your ôefficiencyö __________________________________ ISD broke my sig :(
Nimbu Gallente J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:22:00 - [45] Firstly I dont condone what Stitch said and will be having words with him. Second I doubt that being a northerner he has the contacts to do that, you gotta be down south for that. I can understand his fustration, as he has been giving it his all. I couldnt actually make the meeting saturday, and had told both Stitch and Tec to be there in my absence. I had said to them point blank, back whatever Demarcus wants to do, I have faith in him. Shows how wrong I was. The heist you pulled was wrong regardless of how you try and glorify it and I sincerely hope that the isk last you guys a long time, when the dust settles thast all you will have left. Nims 99% of the above is said in RP. The Other 1% is personal, and should be taken that way. :P
Kam SingDu'k Singularity. The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:23:00 - [46] Can someone please explain to me how robbing your alliance, corp is something to be proud of? I mean sure the guy may have made a rl death threat and **ed you off or whatever, but theres other more honourable things you could have done, like left the alliance/corp and war decced them for **ing you off .
LC Sulla BGG	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:23:00 - [47] Good luck finding trust again Demarcus and the PG guys. I wouldn't trust you as far as I could vomit you but then again I never did. As for the moral justifications. Why didn't you just leave quietly and with dignity like we did when we felt it was time to move on. Well I guess some people have moral fortitude and others don't. You don't... more fool you.
Novas Wordo Karjala Inc. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:25:00 - [48] Originally by: Stitcher Originally by: Sergio Ling setting FLA to red. Thieving is one tihng, silly RL stuff is just that - silly. I'm sorry, but are you sure you aren't overreacting? I've apologized. The so-called "Death Threat" was a joke that Demarcus has taken and blown WAY out of proportion for the sole purpose of getting me into trouble that I don't deserve. It's taken out of context, and is being used as a weapon to make the whole alliance look bad, unfairly. When speaking under tag of alliance, you are representing your alliance. It's extremely bad idea to loose your temper, or even land a sarcasting joke in an incident that you know is going to gain publicity. --------------------------------- In protest for Guristas' rights, this character has no signature.
Xenofur Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:26:00 - [49] Originally by: Kam SingDu'k Can someone please explain to me how robbing your alliance, corp is something to be proud of? I mean sure the guy may have made a rl death threat and **ed you off or whatever, but theres other more honourable things you could have done, like left the alliance/corp and war decced them for ing you off . It happened the other way around. PG first stole from us and when Demarcus showed up with an alt in alliance chat the above snippet was created in a real **storm of spam. ;)
Stitcher Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:27:00 - [50] Edited by: Stitcher on 14/01/2007 22:24:54 Just to clarify - the theft came first, the "threat" came second. Not the other way around. Originally by: Novas Wordo When speaking under tag of alliance, you are representing your alliance. It's extremely bad idea to loose your temper, or even land a sarcasting joke in an incident that you know is going to gain publicity. Fully agreed. +++ FLA - The hardest thing in EVE is to be the good guys.
Rodrom Caldera Gallente Lords Of Guile	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:27:00 - [51] With my past in FLA i would do alot. But Stealing would be the last thing i would do to them. Somethings you never do. and stealing is one of them! you are becoming red to me now. this you may not find threatning. but i have time and revenge is sweet. Gaining trust Would be hard now. as corp and allaince thiefs are never liked in and around eve. Expect also a wardec from my corp soon. Tnx for giving us a reason. Greets Rodrom Caldera ceo Lords of guile -------------* I'm writing a evolving Epic story with side story's to support the whole. Story
Tarphon Caldari Realm of Majestic Empire	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:30:00 - [52] Originally by: Kam SingDu'k Can someone please explain to me how robbing your alliance, corp is something to be proud of? I mean sure the guy may have made a rl death threat and **ed you off or whatever, but theres other more honourable things you could have done, like left the alliance/corp and war decced them for **ing you off . He stole the stuff first, somebody posted a funny tread to cheer people up, then stitcher told just part of the punch line. No real threat, except from Theives like Project Gemini __________________________________ ISD broke my sig :(
Elfaen Ethenwe Eternal Rising	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:37:00 - [53] can we resume the killing each other now? i love a nice forum spam like the rest of us. however, i dont usually post here because it very rarly achieves anything. bar maybe a few extra grey hairs and a bit of chest beating. Although i do not condone theft from anywhere. Demarcus and prjoect gemini are friends of ours. so... can you put whats left of your money where your spam is and actually war dec them? cause im rather bored at the moment and as i said yesterday. we never turn down more reds :D
Slinktress Gallente legion of qui Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:37:00 - [54] To the Moderators. Please do what you would with a thread that starts with an EDITED quote from chat logs. I appreciate some of the comments, but this thread is based on yet another attempt to skew the truth. Best wishes, ~~Slinktress~~
WolfRavage Shadow Eden Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:38:00 - [55] no one said you need to read this in the first place and keep on coming back reading it ... Originally by: El*** Ethenwe* can we resume the killing each other now? i love a nice forum spam like the rest of us. however, i dont usually post here because it very rarly achieves anything. bar maybe a few extra grey hairs and a bit of chest beating. Although i do not condone theft from anywhere. Demarcus and prjoect gemini are friends of ours. so... can you put whats left of your money where your spam is and actually war dec them? cause im rather bored at the moment and as i said yesterday. we never turn down more reds :D
Tarphon Caldari Realm of Majestic Empire	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:47:00 - [56] Originally by: El*** Ethenwe* can we resume the killing each other now? i love a nice forum spam like the rest of us. however, i dont usually post here because it very rarly achieves anything. bar maybe a few extra grey hairs and a bit of chest beating. Although i do not condone theft from anywhere. Demarcus and prjoect gemini are friends of ours. so... can you put whats left of your money where your spam is and actually war dec them? cause im rather bored at the moment and as i said yesterday. we never turn down more reds :D Yes they are friends of your Elf, and they were friends of ours too and you see what that got us. So umm good luck with your friends, by the way I hear Demarcus is a great accountant you should let him look at your books. Also Elf war decs arenÆt needed in 0.0, we havenÆt moved. Feel free to visit us anytime. __________________________________ ISD broke my sig :(
thoradh AirHawk Alliance Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:50:00 - [57] Only recently joined FLA, and they've gone from to in a few short weeks, and so long as this process continues I'm very happy to be in FLA . Whoever hired BE, considering the galvanizing effect their presence has had, has managed to hand us in FLA the one comodity that isk cannot, and will never able to afford, and that is solidarity. As to Stitcher's comment, well I have seen on many occasions stuff in local that for me is a lot more unpleasent. Oh the drama, how could he say such a thing, I would never say anything like that, and its high time I jumped on my little soapbox and showed my outrage at such dastardly things being uttered in an online game that allows me to do unspeakable things myself and get away with it so long as noone finds it objectionable! Yeah right, whatever. Stitcher was reacting to a dirty backstabbing petit thief. Would I have said the same thing in local? No, probably because I don't care for FLA as much as Stitcher does, although to be honest I probably would have thought exactly the same as Stitcher did, and would have silently sworn vengence. And in the same fashion as BE has been unwittingly a huge positive asset to FLA, this piece of villany will of course have precisely the opposite effect as was intended. FLA is much better without attention addicted meme types, let someone else have the misfortune to deal with it, and of course your time will come > > Noli illegitimi carborundum! >
Elfaen Ethenwe Eternal Rising	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:54:00 - [58] Originally by: Tarphon Originally by: El*** Ethenwe* can we resume the killing each other now? i love a nice forum spam like the rest of us. however, i dont usually post here because it very rarly achieves anything. bar maybe a few extra grey hairs and a bit of chest beating. Although i do not condone theft from anywhere. Demarcus and prjoect gemini are friends of ours. so... can you put whats left of your money where your spam is and actually war dec them? cause im rather bored at the moment and as i said yesterday. we never turn down more reds :D Yes they are friends of your Elf, and they were friends of ours too and you see what that got us. So umm good luck with your friends, by the way I hear Demarcus is a great accountant you should let him look at your books. Also Elf war decs arenÆt needed in 0.0, we havenÆt moved. Feel free to visit us anytime. i love the rom3 guys and have a lot of respect for you all. however. whenever we come north. you seem to be offline! we'll come when your on next time. and as stated above demarcus is a friend. and you war dec him.. do us too please
Goca Minmatar Steel Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:54:00 - [59] Edited by: Goca on 14/01/2007 22:51:59 Originally by: El*** Ethenwe* can we resume the killing each other now? i love a nice forum spam like the rest of us. however, i dont usually post here because it very rarly achieves anything. bar maybe a few extra grey hairs and a bit of chest beating. Although i do not condone theft from anywhere. Demarcus and prjoect gemini are friends of ours. so... can you put whats left of your money where your spam is and actually war dec them? cause im rather bored at the moment and as i said yesterday. we never turn down more reds :D TBH I don't recall you killing to many of us to begin with, maybe some ganking of ratters and miners, dunno, whatever.. Like seriously as far as I can tell,you guys killed off alot more FLA when you were IN the alliance leading ops then after you left.. I'm not totally sure that is a GOOD thing.. maybe you think it is, not sure.. Say.. thought you were going to LV? what happened they laughed at your resume? as to your "friends", good company you keep their elf, watch your wallet strings and your back.. As to the little post Elfie made about Stitcher's comments.. good christ.. One nicely editted quote taken from a sarcastic comment.. Are people that retarded that they believe he was actually threatening him with personal harm? Guess people need something to jump on... I is Goca
Tarphon Caldari Realm of Majestic Empire	Posted - 2007.01.14 23:02:00 - [60] Originally by: El*** Ethenwe* Originally by: Tarphon Originally by: El*** Ethenwe* can we resume the killing each other now? i love a nice forum spam like the rest of us. however, i dont usually post here because it very rarly achieves anything. bar maybe a few extra grey hairs and a bit of chest beating. Although i do not condone theft from anywhere. Demarcus and prjoect gemini are friends of ours. so... can you put whats left of your money where your spam is and actually war dec them? cause im rather bored at the moment and as i said yesterday. we never turn down more reds :D Yes they are friends of your Elf, and they were friends of ours too and you see what that got us. So umm good luck with your friends, by the way I hear Demarcus is a great accountant you should let him look at your books. Also Elf war decs arenÆt needed in 0.0, we havenÆt moved. Feel free to visit us anytime. i love the rom3 guys and have a lot of respect for you all. however. whenever we come north. you seem to be offline! we'll come when your on next time. and as stated above demarcus is a friend. and you war dec him.. do us too please The differant time zones does throw a wench in things doesnt it. __________________________________ ISD broke my sig :(

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