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Demarcus
Project Gemini
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Posted - 2007.01.14 19:49:00 -
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FLA, thank you for your 8 billion isk and the two dreads. That was way to kind of a going away present. But no worries you will get to see your isk in space soon. We were going to leave it with robbing you blind but real life death threats are something I will not accept.
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[ 2007.01.14 19:02:47 ] Stitcher > btw Demarcus - you're a dead man.
[ 2007.01.14 19:02:58 ] Demarcus2 > lol
[ 2007.01.14 19:03:01 ] Stitcher > not in0game, in real life. I made a call
Demarcus
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You are all worthless, and weak.
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Demarcus
Project Gemini
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Posted - 2007.01.14 19:49:00 -
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FLA, thank you for your 8 billion isk and the two dreads. That was way to kind of a going away present. But no worries you will get to see your isk in space soon. We were going to leave it with robbing you blind but real life death threats are something I will not accept.
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[ 2007.01.14 19:02:47 ] Stitcher > btw Demarcus - you're a dead man.
[ 2007.01.14 19:02:58 ] Demarcus2 > lol
[ 2007.01.14 19:03:01 ] Stitcher > not in0game, in real life. I made a call
Demarcus
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Arrgs
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.14 19:51:00 -
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Very silly on his part tbh. Give 'em hell.
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Arrgs
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.14 19:51:00 -
[4]
Very silly on his part tbh. Give 'em hell.
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Elfaen Ethenwe
Eternal Rising
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:01:00 -
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Fla. its a game. A game your losing fast. death threts are petty and foolish. Progect gemini are now blue to us, and you are red. (youve been neutral for the last month of us shooting you. now we'll make an effort :)
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Alski
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:01:00 -
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Oh please, as if ripping of the alliance wasn’t enough your now gonna go pew pew at us because of a little sarcasm in local? pfffff. 
I guess if you can’t be a leader, being a thief and letting the isk make you brave can work. 
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Elfaen Ethenwe
Eternal Rising
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:01:00 -
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Fla. its a game. A game your losing fast. death threts are petty and foolish. Progect gemini are now blue to us, and you are red. (youve been neutral for the last month of us shooting you. now we'll make an effort :)
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Alski
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:01:00 -
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Oh please, as if ripping of the alliance wasn’t enough your now gonna go pew pew at us because of a little sarcasm in local? pfffff.
I guess if you can’t be a leader, being a thief and letting the isk make you brave can work.
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XxAngelxX
Amarr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:05:00 -
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Wow, been quite a ride for FLA recently. I've watched an alliance I once put my all into fall apart from the inside. I've seen great leaders step down, and those with false hopes and over-zealous opinions of themselves take their place.
Dem & Lib, Im sure you had your reasons, and I hope the game is more fun for you now you aren't fighting for something FLA could never obtain.
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LiBraga
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:05:00 -
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We, the members of PG, fully supported this action. Infact, it was some of us that planned it.
We had tried to improve FLA, but it's a losing battle.
Just helping you to the end quicker.
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XxAngelxX
Amarr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:05:00 -
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Wow, been quite a ride for FLA recently. I've watched an alliance I once put my all into fall apart from the inside. I've seen great leaders step down, and those with false hopes and over-zealous opinions of themselves take their place.
Dem & Lib, Im sure you had your reasons, and I hope the game is more fun for you now you aren't fighting for something FLA could never obtain.
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LiBraga
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:05:00 -
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We, the members of PG, fully supported this action. Infact, it was some of us that planned it.
We had tried to improve FLA, but it's a losing battle.
Just helping you to the end quicker.
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Alski
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: LiBraga
We, the members of PG, fully supported this action. Infact, it was some of us that planned it.
We had tried to improve FLA, but it's a losing battle.
Just helping you to the end quicker.
I was kinda hopeing to be there when BoB ways waste to the entire north...
...anouther month would be good
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Demarcus
Project Gemini
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Alski
Originally by: LiBraga
We, the members of PG, fully supported this action. Infact, it was some of us that planned it.
We had tried to improve FLA, but it's a losing battle.
Just helping you to the end quicker.
I was kinda hopeing to be there when BoB ways waste to the entire north...
...anouther month would be good
The FLA couldn't fight it's way out of a wet paper bag. If BoB does come they will probably just send their miners so their PvP wing can go after an legitimate target.
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Alski
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Demarcus
Originally by: Alski
Originally by: LiBraga
We, the members of PG, fully supported this action. Infact, it was some of us that planned it.
We had tried to improve FLA, but it's a losing battle.
Just helping you to the end quicker.
I was kinda hopeing to be there when BoB ways waste to the entire north...
...anouther month would be good
The FLA couldn't fight it's way out of a wet paper bag. If BoB does come they will probably just send their miners so their PvP wing can go after an legitimate target.
Maybe you misread me, I said I wanted to be there, I never said anything about winning.
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Dave White
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:18:00 -
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I don't understand sup?
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Eurydyke
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dave White
I don't understand sup?
Someone is proud of being a thief it seems?
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Demarcus
Project Gemini
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Eurydyke
Originally by: Dave White
I don't understand sup?
Someone is proud of being a thief it seems?
Someone is scared of posting with their main it seems.
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Riley Craven
Caldari
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Riley Craven on 14/01/2007 20:42:19
Originally by: Demarcus
Originally by: Alski
Originally by: LiBraga
We, the members of PG, fully supported this action. Infact, it was some of us that planned it.
We had tried to improve FLA, but it's a losing battle.
Just helping you to the end quicker.
I was kinda hopeing to be there when BoB ways waste to the entire north...
...anouther month would be good
The FLA couldn't fight it's way out of a wet paper bag. If BoB does come they will probably just send their miners so their PvP wing can go after an legitimate target.
TBH you should look at the BNC.E corp killboard stats.... there is truth to the rumor that we kick butt in both industry and PVP.
Sadly alot of people fail to realize this simple truth.
Not sure if this link will fly but this is our total corp stats for us.
http://www.killboard.net/?p=corp&c=Black%20Eclipse%20Corp
if the link gets booted do a search for "Black Eclipse Corp" on killboard.net
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr
Karjala Inc.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dave White
I don't understand sup?
Short summary of events already mentioned in this thread:
FLA starts losing people and a few corps, oddly enough several of them find their way to Lotka Volterra.
FLA restructures itself to be more "fair" among member corporations to avoid any additional internal strife.
Some time passes on.
FLA loses two of its biggest PvP corporations (namely, BGG and Karjala) over a short period of time. Several other corps leave the alliance too during the hassle.
_Something_ happens over the course of 3 weeks or so.
Project Gemini stole a pile of Freelancer Alliance's assets and brags about it everywhere.
I'm not stating these as a facts, just as how I remember them (hint: I'm in KAR as you can see). I believe other press releases will follow if such are needed, however we (=Northern entities) do not play the forum game that much so I wouldn't count on seeing anything worth reading in here.
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Samiloth Justinian
AirHawk Alliance
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Demarcus
The FLA couldn't fight it's way out of a wet paper bag. If BoB does come they will probably just send their miners so their PvP wing can go after an legitimate target.
When reading this I believe I understand why you steal what you can and run for the hills.
I guess I should say “Wow, you guys are so cool”? I can see no other reason why you come bragging on the forum how your corp planned to steal from your alliance. Betraying the trust of your fellow alliance members is hardly a golden star in my book, no matter the corp or the alliance. I sure hope other alliances out there take note about the integrity and honor of the Project Gemini corporation.
With that said, that tasteless joke in local is nothing I can support, rather the other way around. That is another matter entirely though and it will in no way justify your theft that predates that comment, no matter how much you would want it to.
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Xenofur
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:51:00 -
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In short, end of last year Jacor Takor and Demarcus were voted president and vice president of FLA. At the beginning of this year Jacor had some real life issues and had to turn over control to someone else. Due to position and alliance-wide trust control of the main assets were given over to Demarcus for the interim.
After that votings began and Demarcus even ran as vice again in combination with our (now) president Daedal V.
At this moment he pretty much decided: "I want to have fun now.", asked his corp: "Hey let's steal 11 billion ISK from FLA and run away." to which they seemingly agreed happily.
[21:30:35] Demarcus > you can throw the feathers as well none here give a ****, this is the most fun we have had as a corp in 6 months
FLA in itself isn't hurt very much, the ISK will be regained. What hurt most is being lied to and being betrayed by one who pretended to want to lead the alliance.
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Regarding stitcher's comment: It was a joke based on a forum post on the FLA forums. He doesn't even know who Demarcus is in RL.
Regardless, pretty much everyone here agrees that it was a quite stupid (and dangerous) joke.
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James Potkukelkka
Karjala Inc.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:53:00 -
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I'd be intrested in your reasons for what you did, if possible. I always tought you were the good guys.
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Xenofur
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:00:00 -
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to quote himself:
[21:35:56] Demarcus > I have been the ******* persistant good guy for two years and it is old
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Darko1107
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:01:00 -
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If this guy is in the mafia... probly not the best idea to steal 8 bill from his corp.
Give it back u mentalist!
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RemDakar
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: RemDakar on 14/01/2007 21:13:10
It takes a special kind of pathetic individual to betray someone's trust.
Yeah this is a game, but for alot of people they still hold thier real life morals to many things, and alliances are built around those morals. when a corp or player joins an alliance under this pretense of accepting those morals and claiming them as their own, then betrayal such as this as just as real if he claimed to be a close friend of yours and he had snuck into your garage and stole your car, or money from your wallet.
Just because this is a game, betrayal isn't any more acceptable to many people.
I am sure many people will consider this player and his corp kill on sight. I will be bringing this to the attention of my corp leaders for a permanent negative standings change.
Theft is theft, and shows the true color of a person, whether in game or not. If a person can justify causing hardships upon others, then they deserve whatever ill fate falls upon them.
KARMA does exsist, and what goes around comes around. after all look at what happened to ASCN.
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Stitcher
Caldari
J.I.T. Enterprises
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:17:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 14/01/2007 21:28:16
Edited by: Stitcher on 14/01/2007 21:14:17
Originally by: Arrgs
Very silly on his part tbh. Give 'em hell.
Yes, in retrospect it was a pretty dumb thing for me to say, wasn't it? Even in jest.
On a more serious note, the fact that EVE is a game in this case is irrelevant. The entirety of Project Gemini that has gone along with this crime - not just Demarcus and LiBraga - have shown that they have no loyalty to anyone, and I for one consider that your behaviour in the anonymous setting of the internet and the game reflect very much the kind of person you are in real life. The setting may be fictional, but you are still dealing with REAL people - people you pledged to aid, stand with, and in some cases lead.
YOU betrayed that vow. Not your character. Not some fictional entity or construct in the game. A real person sitting in a chair behind a computer sat down and deliberately and maliciously planned and enacted this betrayal. That takes this beyond "just a game". Real principles of honour and trust have been ignored here.
I apologize for my "made a call" comment. It was ill-considered, and such things should NEVER be taken lightly. I appreciate that it was, in fact, an incredibly stupid thing to say. If I ever meet you in real life, you will find me friendly and unwilling to bear a grudge.
That said, I am still entitled to pod you mercilessly.
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FLA - The hardest thing in EVE is to be the good guys.
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Goca
Minmatar
Steel Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:17:00 -
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I wasn't going to comment on this, but, since Demarcus seems to think he's some kind of god of Eve, because he lied, stole and backstabbed people who had placed a trust in him, I see no reason why I should not.
FLA has HAD and I will repeat HAD problems in the past, seemingly those problems are lessening as we get rid of some of these corps and moronic people who have left.
FLA might not have 1500 members anymore, but strangely the one's who are here and yes there is still quit a few left :) are pulling together like many will not believe (except the Tri gang who on the verge of being obliterated the other day and the BE gang who have have given us some incredible training (whomever hired them, I must say thank you, you can NOT believe how are PVP knowledge has increased because of them).
TBH we are leaner and meaner then FLA has been in a long time, without the deadweight of our supposed "uber" PVPers who for the most part did and are now trying to do more to break up this alliance then any external forces could ever hope to achieve.
Sadly elf, paltar, even Demarcus and your little followers it's not working, all you have achieved is making FLA run more efficiently.
We no longer have 150 man gate camps that get obliterated by 15 people because of total ineptness by FC's. we now have 20-30 man gangs who go up against groups such as BE and give them a damn good run for their money, with or without senior FC's online..
We have people stepping up that may have never stepped up under the old FLA.
You can steal some money, that's easily replaceable, you can even kill some of our ships, again easily replaceable (tbh far as I can tell for all the talk from elf and his minions, you guys ain't done squat, nor will you ever) .
But the saddest thing and worst thing you can do is hurt people who had gained a trust in you, this might be a game, but it shows what kind of people you truly are..
All the rest can be gained back easily, trust, well tbh good luck..
You little boys who are slamming FLA and hoping it fails wanna a fight?
I think you know where we are located, we are waiting, next time come up yourself, don't get BE to do it for you.
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Nikerym Selugion
Gallente
AirHawk Alliance
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:20:00 -
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After having quite a few of our members step up to the plate, FLA has almost fully recovered from the blow demarcus dealt us in less then 24 hours. as for the comments by stitcher, unfortunatly tempers were running high, 8Bil + 2 Dreads is not something to laugh at. we felt betrayed and unfortunatly some people lost control of thier anger.
as for FLA's strength, we grow stronger every day. we may be shedding members and corps, but that being said we are growing closer together, flying with the same people every day allows us to learn to fly as a team alot closer and alot stronger. (not ment as smack, simply an example) yesterday for example, we repeled a Burn Eden attack with only 1 cruiser loss, compared to thier 2 T2 BS losses. FLA is stronger now then it was previously, i'll end this with a beutiful quote from the Triumverite(SP) TS after they limped home from a recent raid "When the F*** did FLA learn to fight like that?" (spies/intel FTW...) and the answer is recently, and we learn more and more every day.
later all, Fly Safe friends , Fly Smart hostiles
Nikerym
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Goca
Minmatar
Steel Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: James Potkukelkka
I'd be intrested in your reasons for what you did, if possible. I always tought you were the good guys.
One word, Greed...
yeah I've heard lottsa people ask about the comments from former members who were "supposed" to be the good guys, seems their definition of Good is not what others think...
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Goca
Minmatar
Steel Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: El**** Ethenwe
Fla. its a game. A game your losing fast. death threts are petty and foolish. Progect gemini are now blue to us, and you are red. (youve been neutral for the last month of us shooting you. now we'll make an effort :)
well let's hope it's a little more effort then the last month then.. I think rats have killed more FLA ships then u guys...
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Daedal Virtu
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:34:00 -
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As the leader of FLA I can confirm that Demarcus and PG stole alliance assets and ran.
I can also confirm that the loss has already been largly replaced by the great people of FLA.
Its also true that after a shaky start we have one of the best track records against Burn Eden.
People keep thinking were down and out, think again. All this did is concrete our resolve and encourage us to work together more. To whoever hired Burn Eden, we thank you for helping us prepare for war. Our internal problems have faded away to create and alliance that works together for common goals.
To our allies and friends, we will still be here holding our space when BoB comes and helping you hold yours.
To Demarcus and PG we have nothing more to say.
FLA One
http://fla.killerspace.com/forum/
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Stamm
Amarr
Three Holdings
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Demarcus
FLA, thank you for your 8 billion isk and the two dreads. That was way to kind of a going away present. But no worries you will get to see your isk in space soon. We were going to leave it with robbing you blind but real life death threats are something I will not accept.
Quote:
[ 2007.01.14 19:02:47 ] Stitcher > btw Demarcus - you're a dead man.
[ 2007.01.14 19:02:58 ] Demarcus2 > lol
[ 2007.01.14 19:03:01 ] Stitcher > not in0game, in real life. I made a call
Demarcus
Well, I guess you're dirty thieves. But Sticher is an idiot. Somehow I don't expect them to have really put a hit on you.
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The A-Team.
EvePlayer3878984 - Hi. Is that the A-Team?
Hannibal (Dressed as an alligator) - Yeah
EvePlayer3878984 - Someone blew up my hauler.
Hannibal (Lighting a cigar) - When, where, we need times, dates and the lossmail!
EvePlayer3878984 - It was full of torpedoes for my raven :(
Hannibal (Blowing out smoke) - I'll get in my Absolution, Face will get in his Taranis, BA will get in his Carrier and Murdock will get in his Bantam, and we'll be right on it.
EvePlayer3878984 - You're my savior!
Hannibal (Cigar between teeth) - I love it when a plan comes together!
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Laboratus
Gallente
BGG
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:51:00 -
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Somehow the descisions ppl make never stop to amaze me.
In this game, the only things you really have and can not be replaced are your word, honor and reputation.
Once they are gone, that's it.
The loss of credibility is kinda worse than any financial loss you can suffer in the game.
After that. Good luck using that character.
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These are all my opinions, I do not represent my corp in this matter.
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WolfRavage
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:55:00 -
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First off if people are smart and not stupid and selfishe or hotheaded they will never or ever thrust people like demarcus ever !! , cause for all you know he's gonna do the same thing with the new alliance he's gonna join and it's also a kinda warning for the people who let them in a alliance or gonna create a alliance with him , people trusted him all the way and doing a thing like this it makes the person have a bad ego from himself and he has himself to tank for, that was one of the really lowest of the lowest thing someone can do who does not have any honor at all or dignity what so ever. , People like this are not needed in this game it ruines people game of playing like i said we don't want people like that on this game , many people in the alliance are ****ed off at demarcus of doing this stunt i can't blame him ,what would you do if you know someone well and that you thrust 110% all the way and then stole ever or a item that you only wanted for your self ?? (IMO i would be very ****ed off)but back to the demarcus**** subject eum yea not mutch more to say to this but let this be a warning to the next people or even he's corp members that trusted him or still do i would reconsider thinking twice now if i were you and for the next people cause i would not trust him for now or forever and if someone does or a alliance does or a corp that wants to make a alliance with him then it's your problem at the end but i warned ya. nothing for me more to say.
-Wolf
Originally by: Demarcus
FLA, thank you for your 8 billion isk and the two dreads. That was way to kind of a going away present. But no worries you will get to see your isk in space soon. We were going to leave it with robbing you blind but real life death threats are something I will not accept.
Quote:
[ 2007.01.14 19:02:47 ] Stitcher > btw Demarcus - you're a dead man.
[ 2007.01.14 19:02:58 ] Demarcus2 > lol
[ 2007.01.14 19:03:01 ] Stitcher > not in0game, in real life. I made a call
Demarcus
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Elfaen Ethenwe
Eternal Rising
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:55:00 -
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Sadly elf, paltar, even Demarcus and your little followers it's not working, all you have achieved is making FLA run more efficientlythe
Fantastic. i got mentioned. To bring those up to speed who havnt been in game long, myself, paltar and xxangelxx were the fleet commanders for the fla. the As during the time we were the, the pilots who were willing to pvp were not as experienced as other through no fault of there's. we blobbed our way o securing the north for a few months at least. we were for the most part un-opposed and forged relations with other, newer corps within the north (not just us alone. this was a group effort). I dont believe in airing your personal problems with the world. but for ligitimate reason we left. Setting the north red. If you care to view your own killboards fla. you'll see why im struggling to find this efficiancy you speak of. in fact. you are the softest targets in eve. We spent the past few weeks using you to train new pilots, develop new tactics and try proven ones that others use in game. we have a 74% efficiancy on you.
in short, you suck. you spend far too long arguing amoungst yourself over who gets to be wing leader. while we wander unopposed through your systems. im only typing this as our pilots have now developed to an extent that we need a bigger challange. if ou cant do that. we'll happily help having you removed from your home systems. so someone else with the skill to hold it can have a go.
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:59:00 -
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setting FLA to red. Thieving is one tihng, silly RL stuff is just that - silly.
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DarkShakkra
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Posted - 2007.01.14 21:59:00 -
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Well soory for saying but .PG. had once of most profitable day.
To you, it's the lost of big assets, and a corp that tried to help in situation were nothing could be done to begin with.
In reality and you know it ...FLA alliance hardly have more than 200 active player, where the 3/4 of them are industralist that hide during ""CALL TO ARM"", leaving you with 30-40 ppl at most anyway.
Internal discord was going on even before we left and some of your member corp couldnt refrain from doing stupid mistake all the time.
As a corp we did what was the best for us
And being BAD GUYS is soo much more fun than trying to defend the carebear mining in o-2/3jn
There is still too much to be made for me to call what is left a alliance anyway.....NO you are NOT ready for a War agaisnt BOB and you know it.......unless IRON AND D2 help.
Look foward to us 
P.S: Nothing refrain you from wardecing us if you guys are so angry....and sooooo powerfull
A GAME IS A GAME.
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Domosan
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: DarkShakkra
Well soory for saying but .PG. had once of most profitable day.
To you, it's the lost of big assets, and a corp that tried to help in situation were nothing could be done to begin with.
In reality and you know it ...FLA alliance hardly have more than 200 active player, where the 3/4 of them are industralist that hide during ""CALL TO ARM"", leaving you with 30-40 ppl at most anyway.
Internal discord was going on even before we left and some of your member corp couldnt refrain from doing stupid mistake all the time.
As a corp we did what was the best for us
And being BAD GUYS is soo much more fun than trying to defend the carebear mining in o-2/3jn
There is still too much to be made for me to call what is left a alliance anyway.....NO you are NOT ready for a War agaisnt BOB and you know it.......unless IRON AND D2 help.
Look foward to us
P.S: Nothing refrain you from wardecing us if you guys are so angry....and sooooo powerfull
A GAME IS A GAME.
DaRkShAkKrA
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
The largest part of the assets you stole were my personal donations to the alliance.
You have now totally and completely ****ed me off.
Be prepared to be hounded for as long as my wallet allows me, and just to let you know, my wallet will allow me to hound you for a very, very long time.
Any mercs out there need work? Feel free to send me mails with any offers, both 0.0 and empire
See you in space
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WolfRavage
Shadow Eden
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:06:00 -
[40]
Name 1 reason ? they been talking about making the fla better and all athor crap to say to our allinace member to believe in Lib and Dem , i want to see how you would be when someone does that to you and Look who's talking
Originally by: XxAngelxX
Wow, been quite a ride for FLA recently. I've watched an alliance I once put my all into fall apart from the inside. I've seen great leaders step down, and those with false hopes and over-zealous opinions of themselves take their place.
Dem & Lib, Im sure you had your reasons, and I hope the game is more fun for you now you aren't fighting for something FLA could never obtain.
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Otto Torivus
Species 5618
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:09:00 -
[41]
Well, I guess you're dirty thieves. But Sticher is an idiot. Somehow I don't expect them to have really put a hit on you.
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The A-Team.
EvePlayer3878984 - Hi. Is that the A-Team?
Hannibal (Dressed as an alligator) - Yeah
EvePlayer3878984 - Someone blew up my hauler.
Hannibal (Lighting a cigar) - When, where, we need times, dates and the lossmail!
EvePlayer3878984 - It was full of torpedoes for my raven :(
Hannibal (Blowing out smoke) - I'll get in my Absolution, Face will get in his Taranis, BA will get in his Carrier and Murdock will get in his Bantam, and we'll be right on it.
EvePlayer3878984 - You're my savior!
Hannibal (Cigar between teeth) - I love it when a plan comes together!
We have a winner!
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:11:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Patch86 on 14/01/2007 22:11:48
Oh well, its just a few billion. A bugger, but nothing to write to the grandparents about.
Ont eh other hand, good luck getting any alliance to trust you with funds again, you pesky thief, you. On the whole, most decent alliances don't touch corp theives with 10 foot poles, so good luck with that
EDIT: Also, for anyone who REALLY needs it spelling out to them- Stitcher wasn't actually being serious
A thousand and one apologies, Demarcus, if he offended your fragile little senses, he will be taken out back and given a thorough talking to immediately..............
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Stitcher
Caldari
J.I.T. Enterprises
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:18:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Sergio Ling
setting FLA to red. Thieving is one tihng, silly RL stuff is just that - silly.
I'm sorry, but are you sure you aren't overreacting?
I've apologized. The so-called "Death Threat" was a joke that Demarcus has taken and blown WAY out of proportion for the sole purpose of getting me into trouble that I don't deserve. It's taken out of context, and is being used as a weapon to make the whole alliance look bad, unfairly.
I appreciate full well that it was a tasteless and stupid joke, but honestly, setting a whole alliance to red because one guy ran his mouth off? That's not justice, to me that smacks of just grabbing hold of the first weak excuse that came your way. If that's an inaccurate assessment, then I apologise further, but nevertheless, this whole thing is making a mountain out of a molehill.
Which is made even worse because some people seem to be taking it as being more important than the theft perpetrated against us by Project Gemini. It seems to me that your priorities are askew.
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Tarphon
Caldari
Realm of Majestic Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:22:00 -
[44]
Well TBH the FLA had made some great improvements, when the arrogant blame laying want to be leaders left the alliance after causing a lot of internal strife. Jacor and Demarcus were elected as president and vice president. The diplomatic corps were reconstituted and the fleet started getting a fresh overhaul.
Undergoing a cleaning to remove alt spies left in the alliance by the disgruntled ex-members and the constant attacks from those bent on trying to stop FLA from achieving what they themselves could not, FLA has continued to fight and work forward regardless of the obstacle. We took our lumps and considered that training or just lessons learned.
FLA has taken everything in stride and tried to learn and grow from it, and this will continue. FLA has been betrayed before and has been attacked too many times to count. Perhaps itĘs a curse, but you have to respect the fact that everyone in FLA gets back up, dust themselves off and tries again, a little harder and a little smarter having learned a new lesson.
Demarcus what you have done is worse than anything that has happened to FLA, you as a elected leader, someone that was respected and trusted. Decided you werenĘt having fun and wanted to ruin the trust and hard work of others. You really hurt those that trusted and cared about you, Slink worked very hard to help the people in FLA in and out of the game and it takes a sick individual to make her cry like you did. I pity you and I pity those that would trust you in the future who might become your next victim if you get bored again.
You werenĘt paid to do this, you werenĘt role playing, this is just who you areą who you truly are. You shouldnĘt be proud of what you accomplished, anybody can steal from their family and friends. Most donĘt because they know its crossing a line, just like in this game, you crossed that line.
As for Stitchers comment it mirrored a joke on the FLA forums that was quite funny if taken in context with the rest of the tread, it gave people a quick laugh they needed after the betrayal. TBH IĘm still not convinced that he didnĘt still have access at that point and know about the joke, wouldnĘt be the first time he lied now would it. 
Oh and Elf, you canĘt count your kills while you were in FLA as part of your ōefficiencyö
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Nimbu
Gallente
J.I.T. Enterprises
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:22:00 -
[45]
Firstly I dont condone what Stitch said and will be having words with him. Second I doubt that being a northerner he has the contacts to do that, you gotta be down south for that.
I can understand his fustration, as he has been giving it his all. I couldnt actually make the meeting saturday, and had told both Stitch and Tec to be there in my absence. I had said to them point blank, back whatever Demarcus wants to do, I have faith in him. Shows how wrong I was.
The heist you pulled was wrong regardless of how you try and glorify it and I sincerely hope that the isk last you guys a long time, when the dust settles thast all you will have left.
Nims
99% of the above is said in RP. The Other 1% is personal, and should be taken that way. :P
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Kam SingDu'k
Singularity.
The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:23:00 -
[46]
Can someone please explain to me how robbing your alliance, corp is something to be proud of? I mean sure the guy may have made a rl death threat and ****ed you off or whatever, but theres other more honourable things you could have done, like left the alliance/corp and war decced them for ****ing you off .
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LC Sulla
BGG
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:23:00 -
[47]
Good luck finding trust again Demarcus and the PG guys. I wouldn't trust you as far as I could vomit you but then again I never did.
As for the moral justifications. Why didn't you just leave quietly and with dignity like we did when we felt it was time to move on. Well I guess some people have moral fortitude and others don't. You don't... more fool you.
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Novas Wordo
Karjala Inc.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:25:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: Sergio Ling
setting FLA to red. Thieving is one tihng, silly RL stuff is just that - silly.
I'm sorry, but are you sure you aren't overreacting?
I've apologized. The so-called "Death Threat" was a joke that Demarcus has taken and blown WAY out of proportion for the sole purpose of getting me into trouble that I don't deserve. It's taken out of context, and is being used as a weapon to make the whole alliance look bad, unfairly.
When speaking under tag of alliance, you are representing your alliance. It's extremely bad idea to loose your temper, or even land a sarcasting joke in an incident that you know is going to gain publicity.
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Xenofur
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:26:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Kam SingDu'k
Can someone please explain to me how robbing your alliance, corp is something to be proud of? I mean sure the guy may have made a rl death threat and ****ed you off or whatever, but theres other more honourable things you could have done, like left the alliance/corp and war decced them for ****ing you off .
It happened the other way around. PG first stole from us and when Demarcus showed up with an alt in alliance chat the above snippet was created in a real ****storm of spam. ;)
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Stitcher
Caldari
J.I.T. Enterprises
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:27:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Stitcher on 14/01/2007 22:24:54
Just to clarify - the theft came first, the "threat" came second.
Not the other way around.
Originally by: Novas Wordo
When speaking under tag of alliance, you are representing your alliance. It's extremely bad idea to loose your temper, or even land a sarcasting joke in an incident that you know is going to gain publicity.
Fully agreed.
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Rodrom Caldera
Gallente
Lords Of Guile
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:27:00 -
[51]
With my past in FLA i would do alot. But Stealing would be the last thing i would do to them. Somethings you never do. and stealing is one of them!
you are becoming red to me now. this you may not find threatning. but i have time and revenge is sweet.
Gaining trust Would be hard now. as corp and allaince thiefs are never liked in and around eve.
Expect also a wardec from my corp soon. Tnx for giving us a reason.
Greets Rodrom Caldera
ceo
Lords of guile
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Tarphon
Caldari
Realm of Majestic Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:30:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Kam SingDu'k
Can someone please explain to me how robbing your alliance, corp is something to be proud of? I mean sure the guy may have made a rl death threat and ****ed you off or whatever, but theres other more honourable things you could have done, like left the alliance/corp and war decced them for ****ing you off .
He stole the stuff first, somebody posted a funny tread to cheer people up, then stitcher told just part of the punch line. No real threat, except from Theives like Project Gemini
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Elfaen Ethenwe
Eternal Rising
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:37:00 -
[53]
can we resume the killing each other now? i love a nice forum spam like the rest of us. however, i dont usually post here because it very rarly achieves anything. bar maybe a few extra grey hairs and a bit of chest beating. Although i do not condone theft from anywhere. Demarcus and prjoect gemini are friends of ours. so... can you put whats left of your money where your spam is and actually war dec them? cause im rather bored at the moment and as i said yesterday. we never turn down more reds :D
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Slinktress
Gallente
legion of qui
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:37:00 -
[54]
 To the Moderators. Please do what you would with a thread that starts with an EDITED quote from chat logs.
I appreciate some of the comments, but this thread is based on yet another attempt to skew the truth.
Best wishes,
~*~Slinktress~*~
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WolfRavage
Shadow Eden
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:38:00 -
[55]
no one said you need to read this in the first place and keep on coming back reading it ...
Originally by: El**** Ethenwe
can we resume the killing each other now? i love a nice forum spam like the rest of us. however, i dont usually post here because it very rarly achieves anything. bar maybe a few extra grey hairs and a bit of chest beating. Although i do not condone theft from anywhere. Demarcus and prjoect gemini are friends of ours. so... can you put whats left of your money where your spam is and actually war dec them? cause im rather bored at the moment and as i said yesterday. we never turn down more reds :D
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Tarphon
Caldari
Realm of Majestic Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:47:00 -
[56]
Originally by: El**** Ethenwe
can we resume the killing each other now? i love a nice forum spam like the rest of us. however, i dont usually post here because it very rarly achieves anything. bar maybe a few extra grey hairs and a bit of chest beating. Although i do not condone theft from anywhere. Demarcus and prjoect gemini are friends of ours. so... can you put whats left of your money where your spam is and actually war dec them? cause im rather bored at the moment and as i said yesterday. we never turn down more reds :D
Yes they are friends of your Elf, and they were friends of ours too and you see what that got us. So umm good luck with your friends, by the way I hear Demarcus is a great accountant you should let him look at your books.
Also Elf war decs arenĘt needed in 0.0, we havenĘt moved. Feel free to visit us anytime.
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thoradh
AirHawk Alliance
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:50:00 -
[57]
Only recently joined FLA, and they've gone from to in a few short weeks, and so long as this process continues I'm very happy to be in FLA . Whoever hired BE, considering the galvanizing effect their presence has had, has managed to hand us in FLA the one comodity that isk cannot, and will never able to afford, and that is solidarity.
As to Stitcher's comment, well I have seen on many occasions stuff in local that for me is a lot more unpleasent. Oh the drama, how could he say such a thing, I would never say anything like that, and its high time I jumped on my little soapbox and showed my outrage at such dastardly things being uttered in an online game that allows me to do unspeakable things myself and get away with it so long as noone finds it objectionable! Yeah right, whatever.
Stitcher was reacting to a dirty backstabbing petit thief. Would I have said the same thing in local? No, probably because I don't care for FLA as much as Stitcher does, although to be honest I probably would have thought exactly the same as Stitcher did, and would have silently sworn vengence.
And in the same fashion as BE has been unwittingly a huge positive asset to FLA, this piece of villany will of course have precisely the opposite effect as was intended. FLA is much better without attention addicted meme types, let someone else have the misfortune to deal with it, and of course your time will come
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> Noli illegitimi carborundum!
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Elfaen Ethenwe
Eternal Rising
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:54:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Tarphon
Originally by: El**** Ethenwe
can we resume the killing each other now? i love a nice forum spam like the rest of us. however, i dont usually post here because it very rarly achieves anything. bar maybe a few extra grey hairs and a bit of chest beating. Although i do not condone theft from anywhere. Demarcus and prjoect gemini are friends of ours. so... can you put whats left of your money where your spam is and actually war dec them? cause im rather bored at the moment and as i said yesterday. we never turn down more reds :D
Yes they are friends of your Elf, and they were friends of ours too and you see what that got us. So umm good luck with your friends, by the way I hear Demarcus is a great accountant you should let him look at your books.
Also Elf war decs arenĘt needed in 0.0, we havenĘt moved. Feel free to visit us anytime.
i love the rom3 guys and have a lot of respect for you all. however. whenever we come north. you seem to be offline! we'll come when your on next time. and as stated above demarcus is a friend. and you war dec him.. do us too please
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Goca
Minmatar
Steel Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.14 22:54:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Goca on 14/01/2007 22:51:59
Originally by: El**** Ethenwe
can we resume the killing each other now? i love a nice forum spam like the rest of us. however, i dont usually post here because it very rarly achieves anything. bar maybe a few extra grey hairs and a bit of chest beating. Although i do not condone theft from anywhere. Demarcus and prjoect gemini are friends of ours. so... can you put whats left of your money where your spam is and actually war dec them? cause im rather bored at the moment and as i said yesterday. we never turn down more reds :D
TBH I don't recall you killing to many of us to begin with, maybe some ganking of ratters and miners, dunno, whatever..
Like seriously as far as I can tell,you guys killed off alot more FLA when you were IN the alliance leading ops then after you left..
I'm not totally sure that is a GOOD thing.. maybe you think it is, not sure..
Say.. thought you were going to LV? what happened they laughed at your resume?
as to your "friends", good company you keep their elf, watch your wallet strings and your back..
As to the little post Elfie made about Stitcher's comments.. good christ..
One nicely editted quote taken from a sarcastic comment..
Are people that retarded that they believe he was actually threatening him with personal harm?
Guess people need something to jump on...
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Tarphon
Caldari
Realm of Majestic Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.14 23:02:00 -
[60]
Originally by: El**** Ethenwe
Originally by: Tarphon
Originally by: El**** Ethenwe
can we resume the killing each other now? i love a nice forum spam like the rest of us. however, i dont usually post here because it very rarly achieves anything. bar maybe a few extra grey hairs and a bit of chest beating. Although i do not condone theft from anywhere. Demarcus and prjoect gemini are friends of ours. so... can you put whats left of your money where your spam is and actually war dec them? cause im rather bored at the moment and as i said yesterday. we never turn down more reds :D
Yes they are friends of your Elf, and they were friends of ours too and you see what that got us. So umm good luck with your friends, by the way I hear Demarcus is a great accountant you should let him look at your books.
Also Elf war decs arenĘt needed in 0.0, we havenĘt moved. Feel free to visit us anytime.
i love the rom3 guys and have a lot of respect for you all. however. whenever we come north. you seem to be offline! we'll come when your on next time. and as stated above demarcus is a friend. and you war dec him.. do us too please
The differant time zones does throw a wench in things doesnt it.
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Elfaen Ethenwe
Eternal Rising
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Posted - 2007.01.14 23:03:00 -
[61]
bring on your smack, i put up with worse from you while in the alliance. If you died on an op i ran. id say its a lot more likley that its because of your own stupidity. not mine. getting you guy to not shoot each other when hostiles were in the next system? jumping through gates when told not to? i could go on. but thats how a lot of you died. ill take great comfort at laughing at your stupidity
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sakana
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.14 23:04:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Eurydyke
Originally by: Dave White
I don't understand sup?
Someone is proud of being a thief it seems?
indeed, it takes a big man to what Demarcus did...
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Tarphon
Caldari
Realm of Majestic Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.14 23:09:00 -
[63]
Originally by: El**** Ethenwe
getting you guy to not shoot each other when hostiles were in the next system
That was us, we were bored, didnt think they were really coming. Oops
In our defence, you didnt see what he typed in corp chat tho, we had to shoot him. honest
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Rhianna Desaille
Gallente
J.I.T. Enterprises
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 23:24:00 -
[64]
Ah, the big man steps forth to proclaim his prize. But what exactly has Demarcus and co gained from this little venture into the realms of total betrayal?
Well overall id say you made a massive loss, since trust and friendship is an imeasurable source in terms of profit both financialy and mentally.
You sir, have stripped yourself of any truly valuable asset you had remaining: your credability.
Perhaps, in time when your pocket change runs dry, and nobody is there to support whatever minor endeavours you now choose to pursue, you may just for an inkling consider the possability that what you did was not only wrong, but actualy incredibly stupid.
Still, if anything FLA is indeed shedding dead wood... and the maggots writihng in thier own rot with it. Your theft has simply annonced this to FLA and they are certainly better off without you or any like you.
Still, at least you got somthing out of this, as you decided to use the words of stitcher as some kind of leverage for your justification of your deeds. Let it be said, that stitcher regrets saying what he did and any simpleton would think twice before screaming wolf at a simple line. You jump upon his words, and splatter these boards with your self generated tripe, attempting to subvert the general consensus to the belief that in anyway you could possibly be the victim. Indeed sir, you are not the victim, nor the master criminal.. you sir are merely the smallest of footnotes in the mixed history of eve and of FLA. Was it worth the sacrifice to become such a pathetic blemish?
To my corp mates, to my alliance i say congratulations overall on your conduct and think yourselves lucky that you barely have to even give this insignificant petty thief a second thought. Now is the time to continue you triumph in becoming a much leaner, tougher and overall respected alliance. And where there shall be this respect, Demarcus shall crawl upon his belly, writhing in the mud that is his name, forever wondering if there could have been a better way.
This isnt really worth much more talk then that, there are more important things to be doing.
Like creating an alliance greater then project gemini will ever taste the comradeship of ever again.
Oh and in short for those who care not to read too much, Good game gemini, you lost total respect for a poxy sum of isk, oh well time to move on aleady..
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What universe is this if there is no love anymore?
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geewiz
InterGalactic Corp.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.14 23:34:00 -
[65]
Edited by: geewiz on 14/01/2007 23:31:42
Theft sucks whoever does it for whatever reason.
Having read this thread it sounds like FLA got rid of dead weight. To brag about a theft just makes you look small tbh.
Hope FLA come out of this stronger and leaner
gee
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 23:44:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Gallatine Faust
This thread needs to be locked. If not for the fact of it being made by a complete moron under rather stupid boastings, at least then to stop the onslaught of fapping he's probably doing every time someone mentions him.
Didn't mean to post that under my Alt.
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bigfatbird
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.14 23:49:00 -
[67]
Originally by: RemDakar
Edited by: RemDakar on 14/01/2007 21:13:10
It takes a special kind of pathetic individual to betray someone's trust.
Yeah this is a game, but for alot of people they still hold thier real life morals to many things, and alliances are built around those morals. when a corp or player joins an alliance under this pretense of accepting those morals and claiming them as their own, then betrayal such as this as just as real if he claimed to be a close friend of yours and he had snuck into your garage and stole your car, or money from your wallet.
Just because this is a game, betrayal isn't any more acceptable to many people.
I am sure many people will consider this player and his corp kill on sight. I will be bringing this to the attention of my corp leaders for a permanent negative standings change.
Theft is theft, and shows the true color of a person, whether in game or not. If a person can justify causing hardships upon others, then they deserve whatever ill fate falls upon them.
KARMA does exsist, and what goes around comes around. after all look at what happened to ASCN.
QFT
I would like to call those thieves scumbags, but it probably would be an insult to bags filled with scum.
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Drakin Korin
Caldari
Eternal Rising
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Posted - 2007.01.14 23:56:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Goca
Edited by: Goca on 14/01/2007 22:51:59
TBH I don't recall you killing to many of us to begin with, maybe some ganking of ratters and miners, dunno, whatever..
That can be fixed by actually posting all your lossmails on the killboard....
Also ******* up an alliance OP by shooting your own gang member because he said something wrong ??? - n00b ?
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Azeroth Uluntil
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.15 00:05:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Azeroth Uluntil on 15/01/2007 00:02:22
Originally by: Demarcus
FLA, thank you for your 8 billion isk and the two dreads. That was way to kind of a going away present. But no worries you will get to see your isk in space soon. We were going to leave it with robbing you blind but real life death threats are something I will not accept.
Quote:
[ 2007.01.14 19:02:47 ] Stitcher > btw Demarcus - you're a dead man.
[ 2007.01.14 19:02:58 ] Demarcus2 > lol
[ 2007.01.14 19:03:01 ] Stitcher > not in0game, in real life. I made a call
Demarcus
Hmmm... Wonder when you turned into such a tard? Ah well. Congradulations on ruining whatever credibility you had left, and those of your corp m8's.
Anyone got a full list of their corps members? :-)
Edit: Someone smack Stitcher.
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Exodus Director
IRON Director |
Stitcher
Caldari
J.I.T. Enterprises
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 00:12:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil
Edit: Someone smack Stitcher.
What do you think I'VE been doing for the last few hours?
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Calgura
Gallente
Kinetic Vector
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 00:25:00 -
[71]
Now now now, Ladies and Gentlemen, no reason to jump at eachother's throats and continue the foul-mouthing that is so happening here. I hold no respect for thieves, but let him bask in his thievery while the rest of us who are still loyal to the FLA continue with our daily dealings.
Foul-mouthing helps noone, and I would not like for my niece to stumble upon this news-site from her home to see such language being spoken so openly.
To Demarcus, I wish you luck in the future. I'm sure there are corporations and alliances who clap their hands at what you have manage to do, but I am also sure that if you were ever to gain enough trust to join an alliance that you would never see or be a part of any form of leadership in it.
To the FLA, aren't we quite done with this matter? Project Gemini has gone. We have bounced back from this matter, but have a lot more to do as we busy industrialists always do.
In the words of a friend of mine, the wise DeSantis. People see the members of the FLA as carebears. They just fail to realise we are grizzly carebears.
And to Burn Eden, I salute you!
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Goca
Minmatar
Steel Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.15 00:49:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Drakin Korin
Originally by: Goca
Edited by: Goca on 14/01/2007 22:51:59
TBH I don't recall you killing to many of us to begin with, maybe some ganking of ratters and miners, dunno, whatever..
That can be fixed by actually posting all your lossmails on the killboard....
Also ******* up an alliance OP by shooting your own gang member because he said something wrong ??? - n00b ?
huh? someone has had a little too much holiday cheer perhaps? advice, engage brain, then speak
I is Goca |
Goca
Minmatar
Steel Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.15 01:05:00 -
[73]
Originally by: El**** Ethenwe
bring on your smack, i put up with worse from you while in the alliance. If you died on an op i ran. id say its a lot more likley that its because of your own stupidity. not mine. getting you guy to not shoot each other when hostiles were in the next system? jumping through gates when told not to? i could go on. but thats how a lot of you died. ill take great comfort at laughing at your stupidity
yawn..
like I said, bring it... sorry for not giving you our complete attention, we've been busy with BE and not had time to worry about insignificant threats..
You know for example we have been fighting someone who knows how to PVP..
I do so like how the plot thickens however, you and your "friends" are going to bring down FLA? LOL you tried while you were in it, didn't happen, apparently you have tried for a month too after leaving, still not happening..
so.. what next? hire some more mercs?
All you've accomplished is possibly to get rid of deadweight and solify FLA as a team, trust me it's not going to be so easy for your kind to come north anymore...
again how did your application to LV go? Is that why you are still up here? They laughed a little too hard at the resume?
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Elfaen Ethenwe
Eternal Rising
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Posted - 2007.01.15 01:24:00 -
[74]
Edited by: El**** Ethenwe on 15/01/2007 01:23:08
Edited by: El**** Ethenwe on 15/01/2007 01:22:23
Originally by: Goca
Originally by: El**** Ethenwe
bring on your smack, i put up with worse from you while in the alliance. If you died on an op i ran. id say its a lot more likley that its because of your own stupidity. not mine. getting you guy to not shoot each other when hostiles were in the next system? jumping through gates when told not to? i could go on. but thats how a lot of you died. ill take great comfort at laughing at your stupidity
yawn..
like I said, bring it... sorry for not giving you our complete attention, we've been busy with BE and not had time to worry about insignificant threats..
looking at our respective killborads. we've done more damage then them. you guys should really post your losses befor i have to do it for you again
You know for example we have been fighting someone who knows how to PVP..
that must be very difficult for someone who doesnt have a clue. still chasing inti's in bs???
I do so like how the plot thickens however, you and your "friends" are going to bring down FLA? LOL you tried while you were in it, didn't happen, apparently you have tried for a month too after leaving, still not happening..
so.. what next? hire some more mercs?
we've made no attempt to bring you down. weve just shot you lots. like i previously said. we had new pilots to train. i dont see how i treid to bring down the fla from the inside. i'd ask you to present evidence please. also, we have never hired merc to kill you. we were in a merc alliance for a week of fun. but thats not hiring someone is it.
All you've accomplished is possibly to get rid of deadweight and solify FLA as a team, trust me it's not going to be so easy for your kind to come north anymore...
when did this manifestation happen? we took down a hyperion, apoc, domi, drake, 3x caracels, 2x vexors, blackbird and moa in the last two days without any real effort or numbers
again how did your application to LV go? Is that why you are still up here? They laughed a little too hard at the resume?
I left L.V to go back to my friends. the only reason i left fla was to get away with smacktalking muppets like you. who dont know there arse from there elbow and take this GAME far too seriously. I have an open invitation to re-join. ANd the greatest of respect for joe and the ukc guys. next insults?
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Paltar
Evil Bandit Organisation
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Posted - 2007.01.15 01:31:00 -
[75]
No more Eternal Rising Posts in this Thread Please.
They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experiance.
As for the mentions of my name in this thread.
I have nothing to do with PG or their supposed theft from fla aside of being friends with their members.
I left FLA on reasonably good terms... I've shot you since then, but EvE is a game and calls of traitor.. blah blah carry no weight here.
I'm not going to drag this out nor infact even open this to see any responses as if you got something to say to me you can do it to my face or with your weapons hot.
I hope FLA recovers from this incident, and its good to hear your stronger for your trials.
Thankyou.
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TechnoMag
Minmatar
Delta team
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.15 01:39:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Calgura
In the words of a friend of mine, the wise DeSantis. People see the members of the FLA as carebears. They just fail to realise we are grizzly carebears.
First of all for demarcus & co (i understand the entire corp participated to this) i will put u on my black book. I dont think i can describe u in words and in RL i dont even spare a spit on u, u r too low for me. Also a list with members from this corp can be usefull.
About FLA pvp skills beter stop with those self-compliments, until now i dont saw anywhere someone who's not in FLA to congratulate your pvp skills. You flame BE here and dont see any from them posting ... guess who like more profesional?
Stitcher u r my man. I love that replic from u. Btw can u mail me the number u dialed maybe i will need to hire :) :) :).
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Daedal Virtu
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 01:40:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Daedal Virtu on 15/01/2007 01:38:06
Originally by: El**** Ethenwe
Edited by: El**** Ethenwe on 15/01/2007 01:23:08
I left L.V to go back to my friends.... I have an open invitation to re-join. ANd the greatest of respect for joe and the ukc guys. next insults?
Sorry, you will find thats just not true. You will not be in FLA again, that door is closed.
As for pvp complements, both TRI and BE have complemented us in the forums. Do your homework.
FLA One
http://fla.killerspace.com/forum/
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Death Merchant
InterGalactic Corp.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.15 01:41:00 -
[78]
No worries FLA. The people trying to weaken and steal from you wont realize that they're making you stronger until its too late.
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Chuck Dawg
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Posted - 2007.01.15 02:02:00 -
[79]
Heh the only thing you accomplished by stealing 11bil worth of items/isk from FLA is to ruin your own name. If anybody lets them into their corp/alliance then you're an ignorant fool. I'm glad you left since now we have that many less morons and lieing cowards to deal with in FLA.
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Stitcher
Caldari
J.I.T. Enterprises
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 02:11:00 -
[80]
Originally by: TechnoMag
Stitcher u r my man. I love that replic from u. Btw can u mail me the number u dialed maybe i will need to hire :) :) :).
1-800 FICK SHUN
Ask for Al
That's Fick Shun: Al, alright?
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FLA - The hardest thing in EVE is to be the good guys.
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w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz
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Posted - 2007.01.15 02:13:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Alski
Oh please, as if ripping of the alliance wasnĘt enough your now gonna go pew pew at us because of a little sarcasm in local? pfffff.
Sarcasm? lol
Yeah, thats a real funny joke
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Dark Shikari
What single item is larger than a jetcan?
My ego?
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Darknesss
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 02:32:00 -
[82]
Ok i read a few posts from FLA claiming theyve beaten us, obliterated us and that we said such things as OMG WHERE DID FLA LEARN TO FIGHT LIKE THAT!?... and all i can say is LMFAO. You've taken it too far, i throw a compliment at persistance and you somehow think your getting good? No you are greatly mistaken. Obliterated, hmm let me see we engage you guys every time against ridiculous odds, and EVERY time we kill more than we lose. Just because when we lose 5 ships we dont have another 50 behind us to continue fighting does not mean we lose.
Our stats against you are quite frankly embarassing (for you). You never obliterate us, its just laughable to say you do. Your killboard is a joke, and is completely unreliable for stats. In 1 week of war in empire you put up a fight on one occassion. Regardless of whether you care or not we had 128 kills for 8 losses. In isk terms its 2.5 billion for 150 million.
Against our alliance both in empire and 0.0 space (your own space mainly) you have suffered over 1100 losses to us, while being involved in the death of 141 of us.
I have not bragged about this, because there is nothing to brag about your a carebear alliance. But I will not hear you spout any more crap about your self delusions of grandier.
If you want us to really bring it to you, you will have your wish.
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Elfaen Ethenwe
Eternal Rising
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Posted - 2007.01.15 02:46:00 -
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I have removed all previous posts. I lost my cool on this bored once people got personal with me. however i put over a year of my time into the fla. A lot longer than most of the people who are critisising me. Our killboard speaks for itself. and we post all our losses. My relationships with other alliances are my buisness alone. i do not agree with what project gemini have done. however i treat this as a game. During my time in fla i got on well with project gemini. and i look at that relationship. I wish fla all the best in the future. I spent a long time in that alliance and still follow your progress beyond the killboard with interest.
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Tarphon
Caldari
Realm of Majestic Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.15 02:51:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Drakin Korin
Also ******* up an alliance OP by shooting your own gang member because he said something wrong ??? - n00b ?
I was joking with Elf who probably got it, as HE has a sence of humor.
gesh
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Stitcher
Caldari
J.I.T. Enterprises
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 02:53:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Stitcher on 15/01/2007 02:50:42
Originally by: Darknesss
Against our alliance both in empire and 0.0 space (your own space mainly) you have suffered over 1100 losses to us, while being involved in the death of 141 of us. And a large portion of those kills are with IRON involved.
While I usually try to stay out of this, I should point out that the vast majority of that 1100 comes from easy hauler and shuttle ganks. I'm yet to be in a fleet battle against you lot which didn't end in either A) we slap you silly or B) you see what you're up against and run away again.
Don't stroke your ego over taking down idiot hauler pilots who go afk. Anyone can do that, it's not exactly pro skillz. The only kills that truly matter to us are the fights between fleets of combat vessels, and I'm yet to see you come off better against us in an engagement of that type.
I have little patience for this brand of weenie-waving, however. Suffice it to say that the conversation would inevitably go as follows:
FLA: Claim
Tri: Counter-claim
FLA: Rebuttal
Tri: counter-rebuttal
FLA: Counter-counter-rebuttal and claim that Tri's information is innaccurate or misrepresented.
Tri: Rebuttal with insult and statement of superiority
FLA: response to aforesaid statement and notation to STFU
Tri: Smack
FLA: Smack
Both: smacksmacksmacksmack rabble ad nauseum until the mods lock the thread.
Let's just skip all that, shall we? It's tedious and makes everyone involved look bad.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher
FLA: Claim
Tri: Counter-claim
FLA: Rebuttal
Tri: counter-rebuttal
FLA: Counter-counter-rebuttal and claim that Tri's information is innaccurate or misrepresented.
Tri: Rebuttal with insult and statement of superiority
FLA: response to aforesaid statement and notation to STFU
Tri: Smack
FLA: Smack
Both: smacksmacksmacksmack rabble ad nauseum until the mods lock the thread.
Unfortunately, that pretty much sums up EVE-O forums. And some of us like it here, ya know 
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Mr Gangster
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Posted - 2007.01.15 03:01:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Gangster on 15/01/2007 02:58:25
Please tell me your joking, the majority of our kills come from the pathetic group you call a fleet who warp in unorganised, shoot at different targets and stumble over their own ammo while reloading guns to shoot themselves in the foot.
I do anything but wave my e-peen, I complimented you on persistance NOT combat ability, and i will NOT listen to the absolute rubbish i see posted by your members here today, slanting our combat ability? 10 vs 50, we kill more than we lose and you think thats a victory for you?
Your a amatuer alliance and your making the dangerous mistake of talking big, the only reason you exist is because you are allowed to exist. IRON kept you alive, and they still do. Burn Eden got alot of kills on you but they arent a threat to your POS's and its not like they were trying to take your space.
We've also had spies and i recall a certain quote, "we really need to sort this out guys, a gang of 10 come to our space and we need to call in IRON... its embarassing".
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Darknesss
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 03:01:00 -
[88]
Mr Gangster is my alt.
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Stitcher
Caldari
J.I.T. Enterprises
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 03:14:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Mr Gangster
We've also had spies and i recall a certain quote, "we really need to sort this out guys, a gang of 10 come to our space and we need to call in IRON... its embarassing".
We have our good days, we have our bad days.
The real point of my post is that both sides are going to misrepresent the other and spin the issue so that they come out on top. It's how things are done around here. Being aware of it, can we please skip all that tediousness and either get back to the topic at hand or just let this whole issue sink? I have no interest in a smacking match with one of my alliance's firmest adversaries.
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Tarphon
Caldari
Realm of Majestic Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.15 03:40:00 -
[90]
Ok this got out of hand quickly didnĘt it. Lets reel it in a bit. Elf and Paltar you guys have done good things with FLA in the past and I have no hard feeling toward you, you were some of the only PVP guys when we joined so we got along dandy.
Darknesss, I have fought with you and CK1 some time back, no you werenĘt in CK1 they were just in the gang too. I respect your abilities I also think that TRIĘs constant raids have helped strengthen FLA and they are getting much better.
Same thing to BE, you guys donĘt smack in local like on the forums, well most of you donĘt. BE has been very courteous, well as courteous as you can be while blowing up ships.
Drakin, donĘt know you, unless your that guy from K1LLS, if so you made me laugh on several occasions. You were like a little pit bull, lol
Karjala, I always viewed you guys as R0M3Ęs twin just on the opposite time zone. Our corps was so much alike down to how we ran things it was just scary.
IRON you have always been good friends and neighbors since I moved into the North
Randoms, I donĘt know yas, but thanks for stopping by
Demarcus and Project Gemini, you have no honor and get no respectą your scum
So to our friends I look forward to flying with you in the future, to our enemies I look forward to flying against you hope we all have fun.
PG your not worthy of the title enemy or my time.
This will be my last post here since this thread is too full of emotion to serve any purpose.
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Sypher313
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:16:00 -
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VNTR doesn't approve of what you've done P.G. & Demarcus, actually sad to see that this has happened and that you and your guys did it for whatever reasons that may have "seemed" worthy at the time.
If you haven't figured it out yet, bad move.
Good to see FLA has and will not let this deter them. keep up the efforts.
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Admentus Cor'vion
Black Avatar
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:43:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Darko1107
If this guy is in the mafia... probly not the best idea to steal 8 bill from his corp.
Give it back u mentalist!
This is just an honest question, but what kind of person in the Mafia is playing eve?
Not your typical mafia? Ok, I like my fingers so you take it for what you may. :)
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Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve.
"The end and the beginning."
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:47:00 -
[93]
You could have sold a couple of characters and made more profit TBH.
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Damn what happens to all those people whose self esteem doesnt depend on eve then?
Oh right, I'm asking in the wrong place
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Naldo
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:10:00 -
[94]
I feel sorry for FLA. (Dark go easy on them, what they see as a success maybe a lower standard to others). It was kicking a wounded animal by stealing all that isk. I really like FLA, which is wierd because. I am a person who likes to hate people, and I can't hate them on the whole no matter how much I try. Still, rl death threats are cool, I get them now and again.
A loss of anysize is hard to take especially under such circumstances. I hope you become a better for it and learn from mistakes that have led to this.
PS. Give me a reason to hate you, I don't feel right if I haven't got a reason to hate everyone. 
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Plan Neun
Caldari
Ganja Unlimited
CORE.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 08:52:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Rhianna Desaille
Ah, the big man steps forth to proclaim his prize. But what exactly has Demarcus and co gained from this little venture into the realms of total betrayal?
Well overall id say you made a massive loss, since trust and friendship is an imeasurable source in terms of profit both financialy and mentally.
You sir, have stripped yourself of any truly valuable asset you had remaining: your credability.
Perhaps, in time when your pocket change runs dry, and nobody is there to support whatever minor endeavours you now choose to pursue, you may just for an inkling consider the possability that what you did was not only wrong, but actualy incredibly stupid.
Still, if anything FLA is indeed shedding dead wood... and the maggots writihng in thier own rot with it. Your theft has simply annonced this to FLA and they are certainly better off without you or any like you.
Still, at least you got somthing out of this, as you decided to use the words of stitcher as some kind of leverage for your justification of your deeds. Let it be said, that stitcher regrets saying what he did and any simpleton would think twice before screaming wolf at a simple line. You jump upon his words, and splatter these boards with your self generated tripe, attempting to subvert the general consensus to the belief that in anyway you could possibly be the victim. Indeed sir, you are not the victim, nor the master criminal.. you sir are merely the smallest of footnotes in the mixed history of eve and of FLA. Was it worth the sacrifice to become such a pathetic blemish?
To my corp mates, to my alliance i say congratulations overall on your conduct and think yourselves lucky that you barely have to even give this insignificant petty thief a second thought. Now is the time to continue you triumph in becoming a much leaner, tougher and overall respected alliance. And where there shall be this respect, Demarcus shall crawl upon his belly, writhing in the mud that is his name, forever wondering if there could have been a better way.
This isnt really worth much more talk then that, there are more important things to be doing.
Like creating an alliance greater then project gemini will ever taste the comradeship of ever again.
Oh and in short for those who care not to read too much, Good game gemini, you lost total respect for a poxy sum of isk, oh well time to move on aleady..
Demarcus is merely a footnote and got his 3 seconds of fame.
Plan
"I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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Xenofur
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 09:25:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Naldo
PS. Give me a reason to hate you, I don't feel right if I haven't got a reason to hate everyone.
I've got a Britney Spears MP3 somewhere on my hdd.
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Naldo
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 09:25:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Xenofur
Originally by: Naldo
PS. Give me a reason to hate you, I don't feel right if I haven't got a reason to hate everyone.
I've got a Britney Spears MP3 somewhere on my hdd.
Thank you.
This has been stored on my database and FLA is now hated by Naldo.
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Hennry Fromer
Gallente
TRSG Research
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Posted - 2007.01.15 10:24:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Stamm
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The A-Team.
EvePlayer3878984 - Hi. Is that the A-Team?
Hannibal (Dressed as an alligator) - Yeah
EvePlayer3878984 - Someone blew up my hauler.
Hannibal (Lighting a cigar) - When, where, we need times, dates and the lossmail!
EvePlayer3878984 - It was full of torpedoes for my raven :(
Hannibal (Blowing out smoke) - I'll get in my Absolution, Face will get in his Taranis, BA will get in his Carrier and Murdock will get in his Bantam, and we'll be right on it.
EvePlayer3878984 - You're my savior!
Hannibal (Cigar between teeth) - I love it when a plan comes together!
you forgot " I ain't getting on no space ship fool"
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WarGod
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 11:37:00 -
[99]
All i want to do is mine in FLA space and use/trade stabs.. but every time i try i get shot at. 
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WarGod
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 11:37:00 -
[100]
All i want to do is mine in FLA space and use/trade stabs.. but every time i try i get shot at.
Re-Directs to private killboards is not permitted on Gal-Net - Petwraith |
Antigen Po
legion of qui
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 17:12:00 -
[101]
Originally by: WarGod
All i want to do is mine in FLA space and use/trade stabs.. but every time i try i get shot at.
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Turq
Minmatar
GalacTECH Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2007.01.15 17:57:00 -
[102]
*eats popcorn*
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Ulynidd
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.01.15 19:38:00 -
[103]
This information belongs in a petition, not on the forums.
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