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Gliese Casserres Fistful of Finns Paisti Syndicate 17	Posted - 2015.12.13 07:59:08 - [31] - Quote If you fly small ships the only thing you really need to watch out is smartbombers, which show as criminals, and bigger gatecamps, which are rare. Most of lowsec is quiet and you'll eventually fly around like you don't care.
Nat Silverguard Aideron Robotics 214	Posted - 2015.12.13 09:23:20 - [32] - Quote How to make a bookmark. Just Add Water
Max Fubarticus The Scope Gallente Federation 41	Posted - 2015.12.13 14:03:26 - [33] - Quote A clean clone and a cheap ship is what really makes LS and null travel fun. You will eventually die and suffer 0 relevant loses but gain a ton of experience. Builds confidence and lessens any apprehensions you may have had before. And that equals more fun for your game time. Max
Terminal Insanity Pwn 'N Play SpaceMonkey's Alliance 824	Posted - 2015.12.13 14:24:58 - [34] - Quote go straight to nullsec. join a big corp in a big alliance somewhere, you wont ever look back. i used to be a highsec carebear. I can fly hulks and orcas, i anchored highsec pos with all my ratting standings... almost quit the game out of boredom. i packed everything up and joined the first nullsec corp that would take me, and in like 5+ years i've never went back to highsec for anything other than buy plexes, and sell my loot. PvE or PVP at all times. you can make 40mil isk ticks in nullsec, and randomly an escalation that can be worth anywhere from 80mil to 5bil. You're safe because you watch intel channel, and keep an eye on local. And when your ratting ship does finally die, you don't care because its paid for itself and bought 50 more. Plus theres the pvp,,, so when those baddies get reported on intel you now have the option of reshipping and ganking him. Your alliance would usually put up a fleet to kill him, and any good alliance will have some sort of basic training for nullsec pvp, and help you get set up with ships. tldr: join a nullsec alliance, leave your assets in highsec, and buy/fly cheap ships in null. if you dont like it you can always go back You can travel freely in null in an interceptor fit with inertial stabs, and maybe rig it with some cheap rigs and a cloak too. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Pix Severus Mew Age Outpaws 1329	Posted - 2015.12.13 14:36:47 - [35] - Quote 1) Create an alt with a scary, elite PvPer name, like xXLord_DethXx 2) Get your sec status below 0, this puts a skull next your name in the overview, and makes you look hardcore 3) Put that killmail you once whored-on in your bio, you're an experienced PvP master and now everyone will know it 4) Speaking of bio, dont forget the obligatory Pulp Fiction quote! 5) Name your ship something spooky, like Mr Skeltal, so anyone scanning you down will know to back off 6) Make sure your avatar is dark, and you can't see your char's face, shadowy assassins are dangerous My lord.
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 27453	Posted - 2015.12.13 16:17:46 - [36] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: 1) Create an alt with a scary, elite PvPer name, like xXLord_DethXx 2) Get your sec status below 0, this puts a skull next your name in the overview, and makes you look hardcore 3) Put that killmail you once whored-on in your bio, you're an experienced PvP master and now everyone will know it 4) Speaking of bio, dont forget the obligatory Pulp Fiction quote! 5) Name your ship something spooky, like Mr Skeltal, so anyone scanning you down will know to back off 6) Make sure your avatar is dark, and you can't see your char's face, shadowy assassins are dangerous I don't recall telling you how well done your portrait is... Well done. :D I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Pix Severus Mew Age Outpaws 1335	Posted - 2015.12.13 16:24:55 - [37] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: I don't recall telling you how well done your portrait is... Well done. :D Why thank you. You're looking sexy as always Sol, I'm loving the new outfit. My lord.
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 27455	Posted - 2015.12.13 16:29:49 - [38] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: Solecist Project wrote: I don't recall telling you how well done your portrait is... Well done. :D Why thank you. You're looking sexy as always Sol, I'm loving the new outfit. Thank you. :) I ... made it myself. snickers xD I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Foxstar Damaskeenus Calibrated Chaos Triumvirate. 272	Posted - 2015.12.13 22:23:19 - [39] - Quote Join a decent factional warfare corp that takes new players and is active. Your corp hasn't killed anything since February. It's helpful to have intel and a base of operations if you are going in to lawless or mostly lawless space. Don't do it alone, you are just whelping ships and that isn't fun. Try Dirt and Glitter (Amarr) or Ushra Khan (Minmatar) No changes to skill points EVER!!!
Shallanna Yassavi Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 54	Posted - 2015.12.13 22:37:57 - [40] - Quote You could always fly a venture out with a procurer BPC on board. A signature :o
Rhivre TarNec Invisible Exchequer 829	Posted - 2015.12.14 01:52:34 - [41] - Quote Use the starmap to find busy systems, avoid those until you are more used to flying through low sec. Take a small fast ship to zip around and get an idea of the area Most of lowsec is empty, it generally has lots of systems with under 5 people in, then suddenly gatecamp. Fluffy Bunny Pic!
Max Muni Muni Corp 1	Posted - 2015.12.14 20:52:50 - [42] - Quote It has more to do with what you want to go there for? 1) Use cheap ships you can fly well. 2) Don't worry about D-Scan, let them find you. 2a) If local is too busy for your liking, find one with only a few players in it. 3) Set all players in the settings menu to show yellow, that way they're easier to see on the side display. 4) Do what ever you want in your quiet areas of Low or NPC Null. 5) Always fit your rig for PVP. 6) Fight every ship that is aggressive towards you, then make a friend. 7) Don't use implants. If you run out of money, go back to high sec until you can afford to lose it all again playing the game you want.
Hibernator X Zervas Aeronautics The Bastion 38	Posted - 2015.12.15 00:31:28 - [43] - Quote Rookie Low Sec Survival Guide This is a really old page but most of it rings true.. notice that your reason to go to Low Sec is listed in the "Bad reasons to go to Low Sec" section.
Loop Gummiworm Border Patrol 1	Posted - 2015.12.15 19:03:03 - [44] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: It's a game. What's worse? Being afraid of lowsec, a non existing space in a videogame ... ... or being ashamed of being afraid of a non existing space in a videogame ? If the answer is the first one, then I suggest you stop playing immediately. If the answer is the second, I suggest not acting like a little child. Either way, I am laughing about a grown up person being afraid of lowsec. You should be ashamed of yourself. (how's that for motivation, hm?) I made this post to receive help, not to be mocked by you, but obviously you couldn't tell as judging by what you said. What you said does not improve my situation in any way and simply exists to mock me, It shouldn't exist at all and is about as pointless as you are. Good day.
aldhura Bartledannians 19	Posted - 2015.12.15 20:02:40 - [45] - Quote Join a corp and learn. There are many corps that live in LS with many6 carebears. Avoid FW systems and it will be much quieter. Bartledannians are recruiting.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6150832#post6150832
Max Muni Muni Corp 2	Posted - 2015.12.16 02:59:40 - [46] - Quote Loop Gummiworm wrote: I made this post to receive help, not to be mocked by you, but obviously you couldn't tell as judging by what you said. What you said does not improve my situation in any way and simply exists to mock me, It shouldn't exist at all and is quite impolite. Also, you can't really say i'm a "Grown man" as I started playing when I was 10 or 11. I'm only 16. Good day. Friend, you are 100% right about the troll who posted. The thing is, most of not all of the players who hang out in Low Sec have a similar view about the game and just enjoy bad mouthing people and really don't care to be good sports, because they feel somewhere in the EVE manual it allows trolls to get a pat on the back for being mean. I'm 51 years old and the fact that you actually care to be polite and considerate speaks volumes about you as a person. None of these so called EVE PVP experts would ever say the things they do online if they had friends over for a game of chess, so take it with a grain of salt that they are just small people mentally who some how get off by trying to insult those who are brave enough to ask questions. If you look at any post from an OP, there will immediately be trolls filling the thread just to be stupid. Doesn't matter what game. As I mentioned before, ignore them and play your game. Fly a cheap venture and start ninja mining or even the free ones in LOW / Null sec and look around. See if you can fill the ORE hold before dying. It will be fun, you'll see. Don't do it for the money, just the experience.
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 41712	Posted - 2015.12.16 03:24:54 - [47] - Quote Max Muni wrote: The thing is, most of not all of the players who hang out in Low Sec have a similar view about the game and just enjoy bad mouthing people and really don't care to be good sports, because they feel somewhere in the EVE manual it allows trolls to get a pat on the back for being mean. "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Quote: None of these so called EVE PVP experts would ever say the things they do online if they had friends over for a game of chess, so take it with a grain of salt that they are just small people mentally who some how get off by trying to insult those who are brave enough to ask questions. Granted, I'm more of a pvp scrub than anything else, but I would challenge your statement anytime. The majority of pvpers (and all Eve players) are just as normal in game as I find people to be out of game. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
Shelby Dusette Isogen 5 13277	Posted - 2015.12.16 03:30:35 - [48] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Max Muni wrote: The thing is, most of not all of the players who hang out in Low Sec have a similar view about the game and just enjoy bad mouthing people and really don't care to be good sports, because they feel somewhere in the EVE manual it allows trolls to get a pat on the back for being mean. "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Yep, that's always funny. It's like the same kind of stuff you see directed at CODE and other suicide gankers. The fact is most of those lowseccers probably have highsec characters too, maybe a nullsec alt, or a pvp toon in wormhole space. Same can be said for a lot of CODE pilots and gankers. Generalizations about players per the region they fly, or style they play, is silly because we play in a game where having multiple 'lifestyles' is pretty common place. You never really know who you might be talking to when you're telling that CODE pilot they're a sociopath and don't know how to PVP because that one character suicide ganks barges. -ò-+-öGäô-¦-â pàñ -ò-â -+-â+¦-ò-é GÖÑ -ò-àc-+ -¦-Å+¦++-ö GÖÑ -+any l-ög+¦-â-+ GÖÑ wow
Loop Gummiworm SpecterRealm Shipyards 2	Posted - 2015.12.16 21:20:46 - [49] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Loop Gummiworm wrote: Paul Pohl wrote: I wondering if you have a purpose to go there, or just want to go and look around? Traveling/ratting mostly maybe some mining here and there but I know how to fit a mining ship for low sec Ok, so some advice: 1. stay away from FW systems. FW has a lot of pvp, but lowsec can be very quiet outside the FW areas. Dotlan is good to check 2. lowsec ratting doesn't need a big ship or bling fit. A Vexor is good enough. A Vexor Navy is awesome. Even destroyers are good enough 3. If you want to mine, then the belt rats aren't really a problem in lowsec. Light drones will kill them. You can use a barge no problem, except that you need to travel from highsec to a quiet lowsec system. The travel will be the risky part. An alternative to a barge is a Venture, or if you want the ease of a covert ops cloak for travel in lowsec, then a Prospect (and double the ore bay and higher yield). In any case, fit for travel if you are using a barge (warp core stabs), refit off a mobile depot and travel at quiet times (eg. close to downtime is ideal). Ok, thank you for the help.
Loop Gummiworm SpecterRealm Shipyards 2	Posted - 2015.12.16 21:22:49 - [50] - Quote Netan MalDoran wrote: Loop Gummiworm wrote: Paul Pohl wrote: I wondering if you have a purpose to go there, or just want to go and look around? Traveling/ratting mostly maybe some mining here and there but I know how to fit a mining ship for low sec Eh, Low sec mining isn't worth it, trust me. And btw, stay farrrrrr away from Tama XD Ok, Noted, thank you.
Loop Gummiworm SpecterRealm Shipyards 2	Posted - 2015.12.16 21:25:10 - [51] - Quote Neuntausend wrote: Loop Gummiworm wrote: But how would you set up a bookmark so far away from everything? That's incredibly long and you don't have anything to warp to. You can't do that in many systems. Don't worry about it too much, though. Normal safespots are just fine, as long as you keep an eye on your directional scanner. Alright, I'll keep that in mind, thank you.
Loop Gummiworm SpecterRealm Shipyards 2	Posted - 2015.12.16 21:25:57 - [52] - Quote Dredd Stallone wrote: Lots of bookmarks Gotcha, thank you.
Loop Gummiworm SpecterRealm Shipyards 2	Posted - 2015.12.16 21:30:54 - [53] - Quote Shallanna Yassavi wrote: Loop Gummiworm wrote: But how would you set up a bookmark so far away from everything? That's incredibly long and you don't have anything to warp to. A mission. Those will drop bookmarks in really weird places. Bonus points if you complete the mission. If you use the stations in low/null, you need to set up a minimum of two bookmarks: one inside the docking ring (distance will read 0), and at least one in line with the station's exit so you instawarp out of camps. This is also important in trade hubs if you carry expensive things around. Okay, thanks for the help.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 9638	Posted - 2015.12.17 07:53:06 - [54] - Quote No specific advice. Just a general nudge to jump that 0.4 border sooner rather than later. I feel much safer in low sec than high sec. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
So Ho The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.12.17 11:31:00 - [55] - Quote I have started playing a month ago and entered Nullsec straight away, you should have no problem unless your flying something worth blowing up. My best advice is to keep an eye on local and try and keep yourself within solitude if your wish to prosper, good luck.
Avvy Republic University Minmatar Republic 257	Posted - 2015.12.17 12:21:04 - [56] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Max Muni wrote: The thing is, most of not all of the players who hang out in Low Sec have a similar view about the game and just enjoy bad mouthing people and really don't care to be good sports, because they feel somewhere in the EVE manual it allows trolls to get a pat on the back for being mean. "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Quote: None of these so called EVE PVP experts would ever say the things they do online if they had friends over for a game of chess, so take it with a grain of salt that they are just small people mentally who some how get off by trying to insult those who are brave enough to ask questions. Granted, I'm more of a pvp scrub than anything else, but I would challenge your statement anytime. The majority of pvpers (and all Eve players) are just as normal in game as I find people to be out of game. No reason to disbelieve you, as you tend to be one of the better posters (more well balanced and informative) on these forums.
embrel BamBam Inc. 260	Posted - 2015.12.17 12:46:13 - [57] - Quote Loop Gummiworm wrote: Solecist Project wrote: It's a game. What's worse? Being afraid of lowsec, a non existing space in a videogame ... ... or being ashamed of being afraid of a non existing space in a videogame ? If the answer is the first one, then I suggest you stop playing immediately. If the answer is the second, I suggest not acting like a little child. Either way, I am laughing about a grown up person being afraid of lowsec. You should be ashamed of yourself. (how's that for motivation, hm?) I made this post to receive help, not to be mocked by you, but obviously you couldn't tell as judging by what you said. What you said does not improve my situation in any way and simply exists to mock me, It shouldn't exist at all and is quite impolite. Also, you can't really say i'm a "Grown man" as I started playing when I was 10 or 11. I'm only 16. Good day. Ha! nonetheless, solecist has a point: what are you afraid of, it's a video game! Maybe you get mocked after you've been podded, who cares? Just don't do what I did when I was in LS the first time, in a retriever, in Amamake, I accepted a fleet invite. but that was for the best, as since then I rarely flew a mining barge.
Avvy Republic University Minmatar Republic 257	Posted - 2015.12.17 12:54:22 - [58] - Quote embrel wrote: Ha! nonetheless, solecist has a point: what are you afraid of, it's a video game! Maybe you get mocked after you've been podded, who cares? Is it they're afraid, or is it they don't really know how to get started? This game is not very good when it comes to in-game communications for new players. There's rookie help which is ok, but only available for 30 days. There's the help channel that tends to get used as a general chat channel mixed in with help, so not so good. NPC corps are not very effective as at least in some of them hardly anyone says anything, even questions can go unanswered, probably because as they aren't used much players probably rarely look at them.
embrel BamBam Inc. 260	Posted - 2015.12.17 13:04:07 - [59] - Quote Avvy wrote: it they don't really know how to get started? This game is not very good when it comes to in-game communications for new players. There's rookie help which is ok, but only available for 30 days. There's the help channel that tends to get used as a general chat channel mixed in with help, so not so good. NPC corps are not very effective as at least in some of them hardly anyone says anything, even questions can go unanswered, probably because as they aren't used much players probably rarely look at them. ok, you got a point here. But, Eve is quite well documented in the web. e.g. http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Surviving_Nullsec or https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Lowsec_Survival_Guide maybe they should reference these ressources somewhere in the NPE or at least mention that there are loads of. (however, you have to take care because some information is outdated)
Major Trant CTRL-Q Spaceship Bebop 1311	Posted - 2015.12.17 13:37:04 - [60] - Quote Loop Gummiworm wrote: All this info so far really helps, I really appreciate you people helping me out. I'm heading to a low sec system now. Question: How does one set up a safe spot? I ask because I thought they have to be several AU from anything nearby to be deemed safe soi'm not sure how i'm supposed to create it. There are various types of safespots. The most commonly thought of safespots exists somewhere out of range (more than 14 AU) from any celestrial, but they often cannot be made, it depends on the size of the system, you may have to compromise and end up in range of one or more. If so try to pick a spot that isn't in range of the sun, a station or gate. To make one, warp between two distance objects, the sun and the most outer planet or moon for example. Open up your bookmarks and create a bookmark while you are in mid warp, note that is when you click finish (or OK) on the create new bookmark window that is when it is actually created, not when you open the window. To make an even safer safespot warp back to the first bookmark from a different direction and drop a second bookmark. This bookmark won't be in line between two celestrials and people won't spot you when in mid warp between those celestrials as they can with the first safespot. Generally speaking you only need such very safe safespots in null or wormhole space and then in systems that you frequent a lot. In low sec and more infrequently visited system you can get away with droping a bookmark while in warp between two gates. No it isn't perfect, but it is better than nothing, get in the habit of setting up such safes in every new system you pass through. Later make better safe if you use a particular system more often. However, the more important safes that people have been talking about are perch, pounce, docking and instaout safespots. Perch: Set up on grid from a gate or station, typically 180-300 kilometers from the said object so that you can warp to it, look, then warp down to it. Set up by a fast ship (Interceptor?), simply burning out. Pounce: Set up off grid from a gate or station, typically 1000Km to 1AU away, done by dropping a bookmark as you are warping to the said object, just before you come out of warp. Use to warp to and do a D-Scan of said object, before warping on, particularly useful in null and WH space to check for bubbles. Docking: Typically done on the undock as you leave station. This bookmark is created at 0m from the station and will guarantee that you land within docking range of the station, whereas warping directly to a station will land you up to 2500m short of the station and may require your ship to burn in the rest of the distance. Instaout: Set up 300-1000 Kms directly in front of the undock point on a station. Allows you to undock into a hostile fleet and then immediately warp out with almost no align time before they can lock you. Again set up like a Perch with a fast ship burning out the required distance, simply undock, put your MWD on and don't change anything else. Might take a couple of attempts to get a decent one as you can exit the dock at a slightly different angle each time, you want your instaout to be created in a centralised position.

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