Jump clone to an empty clone, buy some cheap frigs and go find out. also practice the MWD cloak trick in highsec a few times before going out there. this video looks decent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5BwkKIS8UQ

In general, travelling in lowsec is not much different to travelling in highsec and it doesn't take long to learn how to keep yourself safe.

Some simple tips:

- Avoid entry systems into lowsec that are close to highsec trade hubs (because they are often camped)

- Make at least 1 safe spot in each system you enter (even a midwarp safe on the way to another gate is good enough initially)

- If a system has a lot of suspects/criminals, don't warp directly to a gate. Warp at range to a celestial first and scan your outgoing gate

- check the in game map stats (pilots in space last 30 min, pod kills last hour, ship kills last hour) if you are unsure of the area and have no scout to jump ahead of you. That will give you some intel about the next system ahead

- check zkillboard for any of the systems on route that the map shows are active. That will give you an idea of how active those systems are being used for pvp

- with the new enlarged grids, make perches off gates while you are warping to them. Ctrl+B and then hit ok when you reach 10,000km off the gate. That will give you an on-grid perch that you can warp to in future to see what is happening on gate

- Gates and Stations provide more protection that celestials and beacons because sentry guns will engage people that attack you if you are not suspect/criminal or an outlaw (sec status < -5). Gates also give you the ability to separate enemies or escape from them by allowing them to agress and then jumping through. Don't be afraid of using gates to your advantage because of those mechanics

- if you regularly use some stations, create instadock and instaundock bookmarks so you can always get in and out safely even if the station is being camped by a fleet

Those are some very simple tips no matter what you are flying. Last one:

- Just fly a T3D and instawarp off any gate anyway. Lots of people will just run away from you, especially if you are in a Svipul, so you will be ok in one.

That last one is just a joke....sort of.

That's incredibly helpful, Thank you.

I recently got back into eve after quitting for a few years and I want to start heading into low sec (I used to be a carebear) but I'm afraid I don't even know how to travel out there let alone live there. I'm not sure how to decide what ship to use, how to fit it, the do's and don'ts of traveling in low sec, etc. Please help me out guys, I have jump clones as well and plenty of money so insurance isn't an issue. Every piece of info no matter how small helps.

Use something small and fast. Make it cheap because you'll probably lose more at first. Set the map to show kills in the last hour and use that to avoid camps. If there are people in the system warp at a random range to something nearby and D-scan the gate before trying to jump.

I wondering if you have a purpose to go there, or just want to go and look around?

Traveling/ratting mostly maybe some mining here and there but I know how to fit a mining ship for low sec

All this info so far really helps, I really appreciate you people helping me out. I'm heading to a low sec system now. Question: How does one set up a safe spot? I ask because I thought they have to be several AU from anything nearby to be deemed safe soi'm not sure how i'm supposed to create it.

Traveling/ratting mostly maybe some mining here and there but I know how to fit a mining ship for low sec

Traveling/ratting mostly maybe some mining here and there but I know how to fit a mining ship for low sec

But how would you set up a bookmark so far away from everything? That's incredibly long and you don't have anything to warp to.

But how would you set up a bookmark so far away from everything? That's incredibly long and you don't have anything to warp to.

Question: How does one set up a safe spot? I ask because I thought they have to be several AU from anything nearby to be deemed safe soi'm not sure how i'm supposed to create it.

A mission. Those will drop bookmarks in really weird places.
Bonus points if you complete the mission.

If you use the stations in low/null, you need to set up a minimum of two bookmarks: one inside the docking ring (distance will read 0), and at least one in line with the station's exit so you instawarp out of camps. This is also important in trade hubs if you carry expensive things around.

1) Create an alt with a scary, elite PvPer name, like xXLord_DethXx
2) Get your sec status below 0, this puts a skull next your name in the overview, and makes you look hardcore
3) Put that killmail you once whored-on in your bio, you're an experienced PvP master and now everyone will know it
4) Speaking of bio, dont forget the obligatory Pulp Fiction quote!
5) Name your ship something spooky, like Mr Skeltal, so anyone scanning you down will know to back off
6) Make sure your avatar is dark, and you can't see your char's face, shadowy assassins are dangerous

I don't recall telling you how well done your portrait is...

Well done. :D

Why thank you.

You're looking sexy as always Sol, I'm loving the new outfit.

It's a game.

What's worse? Being afraid of lowsec, a non existing space in a videogame ...
... or being ashamed of being afraid of a non existing space in a videogame ?

If the answer is the first one, then I suggest you stop playing immediately.
If the answer is the second, I suggest not acting like a little child.

Either way, I am laughing about a grown up person being afraid of lowsec.


You should be ashamed of yourself.



(how's that for motivation, hm?)

I made this post to receive help, not to be mocked by you, but obviously you couldn't tell as judging by what you said. What you said does not improve my situation in any way and simply exists to mock me, It shouldn't exist at all and is quite impolite. Also, you can't really say i'm a "Grown man" as I started playing when I was 10 or 11. I'm only 16.

Good day.

The thing is, most of not all of the players who hang out in Low Sec have a similar view
about the game and just enjoy bad mouthing people and really don't care to be good sports, because
they feel somewhere in the EVE manual it allows trolls to get a pat on the back for being mean.

None of these so called EVE PVP experts would ever say the things they do online if they had
friends over for a game of chess, so take it with a grain of salt that they are just small people mentally who
some how get off by trying to insult those who are brave enough to ask questions.

"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain

Ok, so some advice:

1. stay away from FW systems. FW has a lot of pvp, but lowsec can be very quiet outside the FW areas. Dotlan is good to check

2. lowsec ratting doesn't need a big ship or bling fit. A Vexor is good enough. A Vexor Navy is awesome. Even destroyers are good enough

3. If you want to mine, then the belt rats aren't really a problem in lowsec. Light drones will kill them. You can use a barge no problem, except that you need to travel from highsec to a quiet lowsec system. The travel will be the risky part. An alternative to a barge is a Venture, or if you want the ease of a covert ops cloak for travel in lowsec, then a Prospect (and double the ore bay and higher yield). In any case, fit for travel if you are using a barge (warp core stabs), refit off a mobile depot and travel at quiet times (eg. close to downtime is ideal).

Eh, Low sec mining isn't worth it, trust me.

And btw, stay farrrrrr away from Tama XD

You can't do that in many systems. Don't worry about it too much, though. Normal safespots are just fine, as long as you keep an eye on your directional scanner.

Lots of bookmarks

A mission. Those will drop bookmarks in really weird places.
Bonus points if you complete the mission.

If you use the stations in low/null, you need to set up a minimum of two bookmarks: one inside the docking ring (distance will read 0), and at least one in line with the station's exit so you instawarp out of camps. This is also important in trade hubs if you carry expensive things around.

"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain


Granted, I'm more of a pvp scrub than anything else, but I would challenge your statement anytime.

The majority of pvpers (and all Eve players) are just as normal in game as I find people to be out of game.

I made this post to receive help, not to be mocked by you, but obviously you couldn't tell as judging by what you said. What you said does not improve my situation in any way and simply exists to mock me, It shouldn't exist at all and is quite impolite. Also, you can't really say i'm a "Grown man" as I started playing when I was 10 or 11. I'm only 16.

Good day.

Ha!

nonetheless, solecist has a point: what are you afraid of, it's a video game!
Maybe you get mocked after you've been podded, who cares?

it they don't really know how to get started?

This game is not very good when it comes to in-game communications for new players.

There's rookie help which is ok, but only available for 30 days.

There's the help channel that tends to get used as a general chat channel mixed in with help, so not so good.

NPC corps are not very effective as at least in some of them hardly anyone says anything, even questions can go unanswered, probably because as they aren't used much players probably rarely look at them.

All this info so far really helps, I really appreciate you people helping me out. I'm heading to a low sec system now. Question: How does one set up a safe spot? I ask because I thought they have to be several AU from anything nearby to be deemed safe soi'm not sure how i'm supposed to create it.

ok, you got a point here. But, Eve is quite well documented in the web.

e.g. http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Surviving_Nullsec
or https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Lowsec_Survival_Guide

maybe they should reference these ressources somewhere in the NPE or at least mention that there are loads of.

(however, you have to take care because some information is outdated)

I recently got back into eve after quitting for a few years and I want to start heading into low sec (I used to be a carebear) but I'm afraid I don't even know how to travel out there let alone live there. I'm not sure how to decide what ship to use, how to fit it, the do's and don'ts of traveling in low sec, etc. Please help me out guys, I have jump clones as well and plenty of money so insurance isn't an issue. Every piece of info no matter how small helps.

"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain

Granted, I'm more of a pvp scrub than anything else, but I would challenge your statement anytime.

The majority of pvpers (and all Eve players) are just as normal in game as I find people to be out of game.

There is reason for generalizations, as they tend to make a more direct point.
When a group behaves over 75% similar, they get to be generalized as a whole.

Not all people are bad all the time, just when they're in Low Sec.

There is reason for generalizations, as they tend to make a more direct point.
When a group behaves over 75% similar, they get to be generalized as a whole.

Not all people are bad all the time, just when they're in Low Sec.

Where's your proof that >75% of people in lowsec enjoy bad mouthing, don't care to be good sports, feel that trolling gets a pat on the back and are mentally small people who get off by insulting others?

That's a very big claim that I'm willing to bet you can't provide solid proof for and that your generalization is very wrong.

There's no point to call out individuals who behave poorly in online gaming, since most who've played this game are fully aware that restraint is a secondary skill in EVE.

First off, there is no such thing as a good fight in EVE. The vast majority of players do not want a fair fight, but rather relish the exploit of numbers, It makes no difference if it's against NPC targets or PC targets,

PVE players run OP ships and multi-box to exploit the mission systems, and PVP players run in gangs and roam to exploit the gank advantage.

Both groups feel that they are amazing and neither want a challenge or risk for that matter as a rule.

The big difference is that the PVE player has no interest in ganking new players as that's not part of their play style, giving them a passive stance and a calm relationship with others, unless you want to join their Incursion fleet.

A PVP players goal is to cause grief to new players because that is their primary target model, due to the nature of being new and inexperienced. Seasoned players are already familiar with the LS travel mechanic and tend to not be bothered by LS residents. LS players feed off of new players and 100% (no generalization) don't care what ship they gank on gates or hunt and pile on kills to get on boards. I don't respect this play style as it's counter relational to me as someone who cares about balance. I would much rather a confrontation to be relatively equal, or winning means nothing to me. That's why I don't run level 1 missions in a WORM or Assault Frig, because where's the challenge.

Sorry, but I don't respect game play that promotes general bad behavior and from my 4 years of playing this game off and on, Low Sec is the breading ground for poor sportsmanship and false chest puffing. Granted 25% of the residents may be amazing sportsman and talk to their prey after the kill, but TBH in my play time, I've met only two out of hundreds of encounters that the player didn't pod me and stayed to chat.