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![Anon02 Anon02](https://images.evetech.net/characters/920512110/portrait?size=64)
Anon02
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:14:00 -
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āBut I sincerely hope it violates the spirit of the system.
Let me tell you a little story. About 3 weeks ago my brother-in-law finally convinced me to try this great game called Eve, so I got a trial account. He hooked me up with a couple of frigates he had outgrown, got me invited me into the mining/industrial corporation he was in, and we did a few missions. He was right, the game was a blast. I loved the sci-fi, I loved the missions, and I loved the rich and diverse mining and industrial system. In fact I loved the mining and industrial system so much that I bought out my trial account and started a second account so I could make a miner/industrialist.
Well I ran tons of missions and did hours of mining and generally had a blast. After a short while I managed to convince my brother to loan me the cruiser he was not using since he moved to a battle cruiser.
Fast forward two weeks. After running more level 1 and 2 missions that is probably healthy, I have managed to earn a full set of implants for both my main and alt, picked up some skill books and earned about 27 million ISK. At this point I made a tactical error. I asked my corp for a loan of 20 million and bought a new ship. This was an error because the Privateer Alliance had just declared war on the alliance/corp I was in. There were two theories for the reason. The first was that one person had a grudge against someone in our alliance and bribed the PA to declare war. The second was that our alliance had been seen often enough to make a decent target for legalized piracy.
None of that really matters to me because just as I was undocking my new ship from a .9 security station to fly it to a different station in the same system I glanced away from my screen in order to talk to someone asking me a question; I looked back at my screen when I saw a flash. It took me a few seconds to realize what had happened: my ship had just been blown up (I am required to disable my sound due to a charming bug in Eve that likes to reset my computer if I have sound enabled.) Alas those few seconds of orientaion were too long because just as I was attempting to warp my pod to safety, it too was blown up. In just twenty seconds everything that built up over two weeks and dozens of hours of play time had just gone up in smoke.
I am aware that PvP in Eve is harsh and unforgiving. I am aware that ever time you go into a low security system you are putting both your ship and your life in danger. I am also aware that I probably made many mistakes that led to this situation. That is not the point of this story.
The point of this story is that CCP told me that every time I go into a low security system I take my life into my hands. Privateer Alliance, with the apparent full support of CCP, just told me that there is no such thing as high security; at any moment everything you have worked towards for the last week, month, or year could disappear like it never was. The war declaration was nothing but a nominal bribe in order to allow greifing/piracy in Empire space. If this is the policy of CCP allow this, that is fine. It is their game and they can set the rules, but because of this rule, it will take a minor miracle to convince me to renew my subscription at the end of the month.
________________________________________________________________________ A few notes and a quick summary for those who are unwilling or unable to read the entire thing.
This character is deliberately an alt. I respect the alliance and corperation I jointed too much to want this to reflect badly on them.
The behavior or the Privateer Alliance is perfectly within the rules set down by CCP, however it also means that I can not use Empire space for a friendly, peaceable, social game. Since I do not like to PvP, this means that there is no place for me in this game despite its undeniable appeal. In short, it is a lovely place, but it is a pity about the neighbors.
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![Hllaxiu Hllaxiu](https://images.evetech.net/characters/778188996/portrait?size=64)
Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:18:00 -
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Edited by: Hllaxiu on 15/01/2007 07:15:03 Why were you in an alliance while running level 1 and 2 missions? --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |
![Viliny Viliny](https://images.evetech.net/characters/118775737/portrait?size=64)
Viliny
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:19:00 -
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Well from what i'we read i can only summarize that privateers do seem like a bunch of clowns... and i do feel for your loss. However, you will get back on your feet in no-time :)
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![Dumus Dumus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/862410158/portrait?size=64)
Dumus
Silver Service Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:29:00 -
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Dear anon02. I will not flame you. You are obviously hurt by what has happened to you. All I will say is that I would want you to trust me when I say that NOWHERE is "safe Space". It was never meant to be. Eve IS a PVP game whether you like it or not.
I suggest you try some PvP, Please please believe me when I tell you that you will probably like it. Contact me in-game if you like and we can chat. I genuinely feel for you and your loss, BELIEVE me I lost a Battleship in my first month by making many mistakes. You can and should recover from this and just at this moment take a step outside and breathe some fresh air before logging back in. If your corp are decent enough this will not matter to them and they will help you back on your feet. If they don't and whinge at you "do the right click" maneuver on them.
You must know that your going to flamed to hell and back by the forum idiots, right? Ignore them and give me a call in-game. -Dumus-
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![Apocryphai Apocryphai](https://images.evetech.net/characters/790531106/portrait?size=64)
Apocryphai
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:30:00 -
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Yeah, Privateers are probably the worst side of EVE at the moment. They're cowards, griefers and smack-talkers without balls. The vast majority of them will only undock for hauler ganking, a small percentage of them actually engage in good fights.
However, EVE is littered with scum. Literally. The game is full of all the griefers that got banned from every other MMORPG out there. So it's best that you get used to it now.
There are two crucial lessons that you must learn in order to continue to enjoy EVE:
1) Never fly anything you can't afford to lose. 2) There is NO SAFE SPACE in EVE.
Once you get those lessons burned into your brain in 10 meter high letters of fire then you will be OK here. Until then you will find EVE a constant struggle. Lesson 1 is particularly important. So important I'm going to say it again. NEVER FLY ANYTHING YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE. 99.99% of all forum whining is because people don't learn that lesson. Every ship is an explosion waiting to happen. Every single one.
The other thing to know is that material wealth and skill points in EVE are not what makes your character. Your experience is what makes you. You have just gained, albeit painfully, a big fat lump of important experience and thus you have grown as an EVE player.
Welcome to EVE ![Surprised](/images/icon_surprised.gif)
Originally by: Victor Valka What the skull-chick said.
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![Dumus Dumus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/862410158/portrait?size=64)
Dumus
Silver Service Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Viliny Well from what i'we read i can only summarize that privateers do seem like a bunch of clowns...
This is the sort of post that just gets right under my skin. Why do you do it? Does it make you feel good? Please just try to see things from someone elses perspective before engaging 1st gear and lifting the clutch pedal -Dumus-
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![Dumus Dumus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/862410158/portrait?size=64)
Dumus
Silver Service Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: Apocryphai Yeah, Privateers are probably the worst side of EVE at the moment. They're cowards, griefers and smack-talkers without balls. The vast majority of them will only undock for hauler ganking, a small percentage of them actually engage in good fights.
However, EVE is littered with scum. Literally. The game is full of all the griefers that got banned from every other MMORPG out there. So it's best that you get used to it now.
The second half of your post was fantastic advice, but what the hell is that bull you typed right there? Oh, you read some posts and formed and opinion that was founded on a biased perspective about what Privateers are all about oh ok my bad![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) -Dumus-
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![Benglada Benglada](https://images.evetech.net/characters/924629810/portrait?size=64)
Benglada
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:37:00 -
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I agree with dumus. Welcome to eve, dont fly what you cant afford to lose. I have 3 billion in isk and i often fly a thorax worth a total sum of 26 million. ---------------------------
Originally by: Arkanor
0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Sig nerfz0r - maximum allowed siz0r is 24000 bytz0r. - Devil ([email protected]) Sig By Ortos |
![Apocryphai Apocryphai](https://images.evetech.net/characters/790531106/portrait?size=64)
Apocryphai
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Dumus The second half of your post was fantastic advice, but what the hell is that bull you typed right there? Oh, you read some posts and formed and opinion that was founded on a biased perspective about what Privateers are all about oh ok my bad![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Yeah I've got an opinion. An opinion that based on how I've seen Privateers operate, not just on what others have said.
If you Privateers are going to start getting upset about how most of the EVE community sees you then, er, you're in the wrong business.... I'd suggest a career in mining, not many people will think you're clowns, griefers and cowards then ![Cool](/images/icon_cool.gif)
Originally by: Victor Valka What the skull-chick said.
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![Dumus Dumus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/862410158/portrait?size=64)
Dumus
Silver Service Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:48:00 -
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Edited by: Dumus on 15/01/2007 07:49:05
Originally by: Apocryphai
Originally by: Dumus The second half of your post was fantastic advice, but what the hell is that bull you typed right there? Oh, you read some posts and formed and opinion that was founded on a biased perspective about what Privateers are all about oh ok my bad![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Yeah I've got an opinion. An opinion that based on how I've seen Privateers operate, not just on what others have said.
If you Privateers are going to start getting upset about how most of the EVE community sees you then, er, you're in the wrong business.... I'd suggest a career in mining, not many people will think you're clowns, griefers and cowards then ![Cool](/images/icon_cool.gif)
I can assure you that I am, neither are the people I have met in the alliance clowns. YOU need to re-evaluate why you think many MANY people play this game of PvP. I play it because I love to attack whoever I can wherever I can because it is fun. Whether or not the person on the receiving end likes it or not. If you do not like it its a simple thing to never log in again. If some have made mistakes on the forums by the nature of their posts that's one thing. But to call us all clowns for declaring war on nearly the whole of eve is simply WRONG! I have pleasure in assosiating myself with them and will continue to do so whilst the funds are in place to keep me there, and this comes from someone who was a director of VETO at one point, one of the most respected PvP corps in game, and had the pleasure of flying with some of the best pvp'ers ever to have played this game including ex m0o members! -Dumus-
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![hotgirl933 hotgirl933](https://images.evetech.net/characters/790241295/portrait?size=64)
hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:53:00 -
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oh please if youre alliacne cannot protect u if its a 0.0 alliacne u should be out there not in empire if they cannot protect u leave and find some high sec mission running corp that probably wont attract any war decs.
We should see u in wow soon enough thats a nice game for player against computer AI entity thingy
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![Apocryphai Apocryphai](https://images.evetech.net/characters/790531106/portrait?size=64)
Apocryphai
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dumus I can assure you that I am, neither are the people I have met in the alliance clowns. YOU need to re-evaluate why you think many MANY people play this game of PvP. I play it because I love to attack whoever I can wherever I can because it is fun. Whether or not the person on the receiving end likes it or not. If you do not like it its a simple thing to never log in again. If some have made mistakes on the forums by the nature of their posts that's one thing. But to call us all clowns for declaring war on nearly the whole of eve is simply WRONG! I have pleasure in assosiating myself with them and will continue to do so whilst the funds are in place to keep me there, and this comes from someone who was a director of VETO at one point, one of the most respected PvP corps in game.
The fact that you're getting really upset about this confirms my belief that you're in the wrong alliance. Either that or you guys need to start exercising some serious control over who you recruit.
I know full well that there are a small percentage of Privateers who are good PvP'ers, skilled players and in possession of round, spherical objects. However the majority of Privateers corps are not of this ilk. Most Privateers corps are station-hiding hauler gankers.
You can huff and puff as much as you like, but reputations are built on actions, not rhetoric, and the actions of your alliance corps has already spoken loudly to a lot of us.
However, this is hijacking the OP's post so I won't engage in this discussion further, apologies to the OP.
Originally by: Victor Valka What the skull-chick said.
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![Dumus Dumus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/862410158/portrait?size=64)
Dumus
Silver Service Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:58:00 -
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My apologies to the OP Apocryphai is right I am hyjacking your thread.
I will let it lie with this Apocryphai. Your wrong on more than one level. Contact me in game to discuss this any further if you wish. -Dumus-
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![gfldex gfldex](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1617275834/portrait?size=64)
gfldex
Gallente Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.01.15 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Anon02 It is their game and they can set the rules, but because of this rule, it will take a minor miracle to convince me to renew my subscription at the end of the month.
Your whining was well written but still stays a whine.
The discussion about Privateers is not that they declare war on random tagets but that their member corps join and leave the alliance to avoid problems that their wardecs cause to themselfs.
At least one ISD member believes that the actions of Privateers are not totaly valid.
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![Kuolematon Kuolematon](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1532958918/portrait?size=64)
Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2007.01.15 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Apocryphai Yeah, Privateers are probably the worst side of EVE at the moment. They're cowards, griefers and smack-talkers without balls. The vast majority of them will only undock for hauler ganking.
Yes indeed we got no balls. Like certain corp in Deltole yesterday engaged people twice of our size and lost near 1bil in ships and modules .. Damn those haulers can put up a good fight, eh? ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) Playing Caldari-Online as a Amarr specced is PURE Hardcore (aka. stupid).
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![Alski Alski](https://images.evetech.net/characters/651840192/portrait?size=64)
Alski
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Viliny Well from what i'we read i can only summarize that privateers do seem like a bunch of clowns... and i do feel for your loss. However, you will get back on your feet in no-time :)
The post below you proved you wrong, i don't like what Privateers do either, i think since they've got a nice tightley packed bunch of PvPers they should get out into 0.0 and start makeing big bangs where the big stuff happens, but whatever, you can't judge a pilot or person by there corp tag.
just like the idiot this morning that told me "lik i care wot an FLA pilot tells me" after i warped away from his gatecamp and informed him in local his ceptor pilot was 375km from the gate. ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
Originally by: hotgirl933 oh please if youre alliacne cannot protect u if its a 0.0 alliacne u should be out there not in empire if they cannot protect u leave and find some high sec mission running corp that probably wont attract any war decs.
We should see u in wow soon enough thats a nice game for player against computer AI entity thingy
hotgirl is a troll btw... case ya hadent noticed.
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To the OP, just ignore everything else in this tread except for what Dumus said :
Originally by: Dumus Dear anon02. I will not flame you. You are obviously hurt by what has happened to you. All I will say is that I would want you to trust me when I say that NOWHERE is "safe Space". It was never meant to be. Eve IS a PVP game whether you like it or not.
I suggest you try some PvP, Please please believe me when I tell you that you will probably like it. Contact me in-game if you like and we can chat. I genuinely feel for you and your loss, BELIEVE me I lost a Battleship in my first month by making many mistakes. You can and should recover from this and just at this moment take a step outside and breathe some fresh air before logging back in. If your corp are decent enough this will not matter to them and they will help you back on your feet. If they don't and whinge at you "do the right click" maneuver on them.
You must know that your going to flamed to hell and back by the forum idiots, right? Ignore them and give me a call in-game.
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![Anatolius Anatolius](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1217622988/portrait?size=64)
Anatolius
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Anon02
This character is deliberately an alt. I respect the alliance and corperation I jointed too much to want this to reflect badly on them.
You do them all together far too much honor, as it's clear they didn't explain to you what a war declaration means.
Originally by: Anon02
The behavior or the Privateer Alliance is perfectly within the rules set down by CCP, however it also means that I can not use Empire space for a friendly, peaceable, social game. Since I do not like to PvP, this means that there is no place for me in this game despite its undeniable appeal.
Pretty much. The game, by its very nature, is a PvP game. High security space is called high security space instead of 'safe space', for a very good reason - there is no such thing as 'safe space'.
Still, it's not that hard to avoid PvP entirely; you do have to display a modicum of caution, and pretty much settle for not being in a large alliance. (The more people in a corporation/alliance, the more likely it is that someone, somewhere, is going to annoy the wrong person and guaranteeing a war declaration. )
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![Hllaxiu Hllaxiu](https://images.evetech.net/characters/778188996/portrait?size=64)
Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.15 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex At least one ISD member believes that the actions of Privateers are not totaly valid.
ISD members do not decide what exploits are. Someone that is actually paid by CCP decides that.
Believe whatever you want about Privateer's Alliance's fighting techniques - what they allow their member corps to do appears to be perfectly legal as of this time (ie, no GM has said no, and they keep doing it). --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |
![Anon02 Anon02](https://images.evetech.net/characters/920512110/portrait?size=64)
Anon02
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Posted - 2007.01.15 09:09:00 -
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Since I do feel pretty strongly about this I will respond to a couple of posts
I joined a corporation (a small mining/industrial corporation) because that was what my brother was in, and because the social/grouping aspect of this game is the only thing that separates it from Privateer (a single player space simulator). The alliance is actually rather small and most of us were rather surprised that the PA targeted it.
Dumus, I appreciate your comments, and I really appreciate your efforts to give advice in game. While it certainly raises my opinion of the Silver Service, I fear it will be a long time before my opinion of the Privateers changes. The latter may just be a reaction to being ganked in less than 20 seconds by someone with a bunch of heavy blasters and a full complement of Ogres in a noob sector of space.
As far as PvP goes, I freely admit to being a care-bear. Given a giant sandbox I far prefer building castles in the sand to looking for others to kick down. In fact I am acutely uncomfortable destroying someone elseÆs work just for the hell of it (a fair, or even semi-fair, contest is a different story). This is not to say that I am completely opposed to PvP. I have been playing MMOs for the past 5 years or so and greatly enjoy PvP in the areas flagged as free for all, even when most areas are flagged that way. The key word there is most. As a brand new character with a little over a million skill points I wanted some time and a place to work out the PvE aspects of the game before I ventured into PvP. I willingly gave up any of the rewards I might have obtained by operating in an area of less than .8 security in exchange for breathing room to gain both skill points and experience in Eve. However, because of the Privateer Alliance I didn't even have that. If Concord is supposed to be the police that keep the more lawless elements in check, Privateer Alliance has proven that all you have to do is slip the cops a twenty and you can do whatever you want.
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![Petite Pierre Petite Pierre](https://images.evetech.net/characters/752649541/portrait?size=64)
Petite Pierre
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 09:24:00 -
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Boo hoo. We've all been there mate. Cheer up, dust your pants, and back in the fray. --------------------
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![Vistilantus Vistilantus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/788679059/portrait?size=64)
Vistilantus
Caldari Miner Protection Guild
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Posted - 2007.01.15 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Apocryphai Yeah, Privateers are probably the worst side of EVE at the moment. They're cowards, griefers and smack-talkers without balls. The vast majority of them will only undock for hauler ganking, a small percentage of them actually engage in good fights.
We've fought a number of Privateers recently, they killed some of us, we killed some of them. They don't smacktalk. After each fight, they say "good fight" or "thank's for the fight". It's always a pelasure to shoot people that shoot back.
To the OP : You had 24 hours to get out of your corp / alliance after it was war decced. You should have realised that when you are a valid war target, nowhere is safe. If your corp or alliance mates did not have the courtesy to inform you of this fact then you shouldn't be with them. ___________________________________________________ ~Vistilantus |
![Leneerra Leneerra](https://images.evetech.net/characters/938912237/portrait?size=64)
Leneerra
Minmatar Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2007.01.15 09:37:00 -
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Consider EvE a semi fair contest then . However there are more skills involved in the contest then just the ones on your character sheet.
It does not realy matter why you joined that large alliance. But I do find it funny you direct all your anger at the privateer scum. The corp/alliance you joined should realy have warned you what you were getting into. The seccond you decided to join them you also decided to play in the largest sandbox in the city. one that is roaming with those other other destructive kids (taking your analogy a step further here)
In Eve your actions have consequences, whether you understand those actions or not. Any non-alliance 3 man corp is extreemly unlikely to gain the intrest of the privateer alliance, annything bigger may or may not.
As to the privateer that so bravely posted in this tread Simply the situation in wich the OP was killed shows that his attacker was not intrested in a fight, only in a kill. This attitude does appear to be very wide spread within your alliance. Never before have I witnessed such a display of nano/I-stab setups with people willing to abandon their slower alliance mates if a fight is not going their way.
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![CatCan CatCan](https://images.evetech.net/characters/782145051/portrait?size=64)
CatCan
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Posted - 2007.01.15 09:39:00 -
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Edited by: CatCan on 15/01/2007 09:37:05 Greetings! 1st -welcome to Eve. Life as you have known is over.
2nd -in Eve "NOWHERE is "safe Space". It was never meant to be. Eve IS a PVP game whether you like it or not".
3rd -every ship is an explosion waiting to happen, the trick is to keep it long enough to sell it to some1 else who end up blown up in it.
4th -should your corp not be able to help you, there are lots of other corps which take care of their members ( replacement-ships etc ).
5th -allways check Corporation / Wars-tab before undocking ( learned this hard way also )
6th -this incident should be valuable lesson for you and in no time you will look back to it thankfully
To assist you in your search for your destiny I have sent you some funds.
You are What you do When it counts
-The Masao
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![Captain Hudson Captain Hudson](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1070205945/portrait?size=64)
Captain Hudson
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 09:49:00 -
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just leave the alliance or wait for the war dec to be over, they mostley only last a week, u will get back on you feet quickly, no need to leave tbh
Originally by: SPQRMocton
We would love to have a bunch of teenage pimple boys with no real pvp ability to fil our corpse yards
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![Xsag Xsag](https://images.evetech.net/characters/409694901/portrait?size=64)
Xsag
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.01.15 09:54:00 -
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Read your story Anon and know exactly how you feel, ive been playing 3 months and thought id try and make you feel better by listing my ship losses to date :-) 3 cormorants 1 osprey 1 caracal 1 Moa 6 Ferox 1 Drake (damn you concord!) 1 Scorpion (deliberately destroyed because the insurance allowed me to buy a raven....) 1 Raven (warp drive jammed by npcs)
all i can say is you can always bounce back and insurance (on cruisers up) is vital to your well being!
hope that makes you feel better!
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~n00b of all trades~ ~~Airkio~~ / ~~Muvolailen~~ ~if im posting on here its cos im in work~ |
![Xsag Xsag](https://images.evetech.net/characters/409694901/portrait?size=64)
Xsag
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.01.15 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dumus
Originally by: Apocryphai Yeah, Privateers are probably the worst side of EVE at the moment. They're cowards, griefers and smack-talkers without balls. The vast majority of them will only undock for hauler ganking, a small percentage of them actually engage in good fights.
However, EVE is littered with scum. Literally. The game is full of all the griefers that got banned from every other MMORPG out there. So it's best that you get used to it now.
The second half of your post was fantastic advice, but what the hell is that bull you typed right there? Oh, you read some posts and formed and opinion that was founded on a biased perspective about what Privateers are all about oh ok my bad![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
i must be honest i find all this "privateers are bad ppl" stuff strange - i recall a forum post recently where the privateers where voted "best newcomer" can anyone actually back up this potty talk of this corp / alliance with some facts???
~n00b of all trades~ ~~Airkio~~ / ~~Muvolailen~~ ~if im posting on here its cos im in work~ |
![BurnHard BurnHard](https://images.evetech.net/characters/815424278/portrait?size=64)
BurnHard
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Posted - 2007.01.15 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dumus
Originally by: Apocryphai Yeah, Privateers are probably the worst side of EVE at the moment. They're cowards, griefers and smack-talkers without balls. The vast majority of them will only undock for hauler ganking, a small percentage of them actually engage in good fights.
However, EVE is littered with scum. Literally. The game is full of all the griefers that got banned from every other MMORPG out there. So it's best that you get used to it now.
The second half of your post was fantastic advice, but what the hell is that bull you typed right there? Oh, you read some posts and formed and opinion that was founded on a biased perspective about what Privateers are all about oh ok my bad![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Well, I don't know about the first point there, but his second one I do believe absolutely.
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Xsag
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.01.15 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: CatCan Edited by: CatCan on 15/01/2007 09:37:05 Greetings! 1st -welcome to Eve. Life as you have known is over.
2nd -in Eve "NOWHERE is "safe Space". It was never meant to be. Eve IS a PVP game whether you like it or not".
3rd -every ship is an explosion waiting to happen, the trick is to keep it long enough to sell it to some1 else who end up blown up in it.
4th -should your corp not be able to help you, there are lots of other corps which take care of their members ( replacement-ships etc ).
5th -allways check Corporation / Wars-tab before undocking ( learned this hard way also )
6th -this incident should be valuable lesson for you and in no time you will look back to it thankfully
To assist you in your search for your destiny I have sent you some funds.
You are What you do When it counts
-The Masao
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i like what uve done here anon and in the spirit of things ill also send you 2m when i get home (but ill need your real nick!)
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rockmeister
New Justice Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2007.01.15 10:33:00 -
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It is kinda unrealistic for a young player to join any alliance as well as u cna see alliance get targetted alot it is better to join a normal corp and learn there be4 u join an alliance where u will be "forced" to pvp or do nothing and ya the eve world is quite time consuming making isk then blowing it all up in a few mins but that is what makes this game fun the sense of loss when losing a ship in the beginning of ur evelife u cna better stay in nubcorp or join a small corp is my advice smaller target means a smaller chance of getting wardecced after a while when u get to higher levels msisioning for example or move out to 0.0 isk is just for the picking and u will be able to lose that amounts and make it back in a few hours
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Dumus
Silver Service Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 10:34:00 -
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I would just like to encourage you to give the game a bit longer. I commend the posters who have sent isk. I have done similar things myself in the past, I wont in this case because I would love to see you learn from this and grow within the game. Approach it with a mature attitude and a good dose of WTF cynicism and you will go far.
Don't give up because you have been punched on the nose.
You can come join my corp for a week if you like and I will show some stuff. Trust me you wont be a carebear for long. :) -Dumus-
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