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Pralay
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.01 03:17:00 -
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3) If a player CTDs or goes LD while fighting NPCs with drones then the drones are dead. Fix this! Make the drones stop attacking the NPCs if the player warps out (CTDs, LDs...etc) and make the NPCs stop attacking the drones.
I often find my drones floating around when this happens, once they seemed to have blasted the remaining ships (that might have happened while I was still "there", my client locked up and I had to kill it which might be seen differently to the server than a LD or CTD)
I really, really appreciate the option to scoop to dronebay random drones floating around. For my drones when I get disconnected and for other peoples when they do :) Pralay |
Chi Quan
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Posted - 2007.02.27 14:17:00 -
[92]
/signed
hotkeys and grouping for drones especially, and please let me use my armor maintanance drone on MYSELF
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Jack Erisen
Gallente KrayZ Dams Inc. R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.02.27 18:02:00 -
[93]
/signed
and bump.
There is nothing I could say that has not been already, but as an almost exclusive drone user, this needs to be addressed.
'nuff said.
~jack
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Rakeris
Brethren Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.08 14:28:00 -
[94]
I agree with just about everything in the tread. I would so love to see drones fixed. But frankly, I don't see it happening soon...as if after three years drones still have all of these problems, what are the chances they will get fixed in the coming three years? =(
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R34PER
Caldari Imperial Ravens
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Posted - 2007.03.08 14:58:00 -
[95]
Edited by: R34PER on 08/03/2007 14:54:37 It would be awesome if they would remove "aggro" from drones, such way that they won't aggro NPC ships if they fly past but won't shoot it, and if you order them to pop someone, the aggro shifts to you so your drones left untouched, always. Im ****ting my pants every time the whole complex starts to buzz towards my expensive drones
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Admiral Pieg
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.08 15:13:00 -
[96]
Ugh, drone users must be the most neglected players in eve. I mean the least the devs could do is to tell us they dont care and well stop making these threads. Instead these threads pop up now and then with no dev response and after a few pages they fade away between all the racial whines. ______________
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Rakeris
Brethren Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.09 13:50:00 -
[97]
The sad truth Admiral.
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Zirth
Caldari The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.03.09 15:51:00 -
[98]
I totally agree.
Getting disconnected and losing drones though isn't really a problem cause of drones. You could lose your ship the same way in PvP for example.
However, I totally agree that drones need a hp increase.
Example (extremely possible, and it has happened before) Nowadays in PvP if I fight battleships or battlecruisers in say my Myrmidon (which is my fav ship atm) they can insta-pop my drones in 1 volley, or put it into low hull meaning the next time they lock it it'll be popped. Now I don't fly a nos-myrmi, I do have turrets, but I run t2 small blasters with a 1600mm in low. So my drone damage is still 50-80% of my entire damage. If one pops I lose say 15% of my total damage, if I'm at 5-15km then he has enough time to pop 2-3 before they finally return and dock. Meaning after 2-3 of his volleys he's already killed off 30-50% of my damage, that's insane!
It's so easy to pop drones nowadys. Ships like the Myrmidon are great, but reducing their damage by 50-80% can easily be done in a matter of 30 seconds.
Even an Ishtar with greatly increased dronebay will be fecked. Not everyone has HAC5, but the people that do ususally have about 10 heavy drones in their bay, if that. It only has 3 turret slots, and drones that get insta-popped (costing him millions per few-second volleys likely reducing his profit from piracy to none, and forcing him to possibly goto high-sec with negative standings to buy more t2 drones) will greatly reduce his damage.
I can probably pop 10 t2 drones within a minute, what does that say about droneboat's damage? That it won't have any within a matter of a minute. Ships can carry 5 minutes of constant cap-800 boosting, but their drones can be popped in 30 seconds.
That's my biggest problem. I'm not even insanely bothered by the lack of binds or w/e. For some ships drones are a bonus, but for others they're essential. You're a fool not to kill a myrmidon's drones when you fight one, with the ease of doing it, and the damage reduction on you per single-volley you fire at a droneboat's drone is just broken.
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Eraggan Sadarr
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.03.15 09:33:00 -
[99]
/Signed
Especially keyboard hotkeys is a missed feature!
Regards Eraggan Sadarr
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RedeyeAce
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Posted - 2007.03.15 10:45:00 -
[100]
/Signed where was that oveur announcement?? not been on the forums for a while so missed it.
Please Tux / Oveur somebody dev wise, can you give us a we should be starting this in 2 weeks, 6 months or another 3 yrs, so we know whats going on.. and can you supply us with your "Being the Head Janitor of EVE " Top 10(/5) things to fix with drones..
You can clearly see the userbase is talking of the same Hymn Sheet, now we seem to have some confirmation after 3yrs that its gonna get some TLC any chance you can pacify the userbase so we get an idea as to what and when.
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Misanth
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Posted - 2007.03.15 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Freaks Then u don't use them enough mate. I allways have to click the engage target 3 times only to find out that there still are only 4 drones on one target. There is nothing wrong with my machine AMD 3800 + gyg ram etc etc and I have at least 4 CTDs a week. About the drones being alive after CTDing: sometimes they survive and sometimes they get fried. No idea what triggers it. To state that this is a skillwise problem makes me ROFL because I have over 5 mil in drones and can sign all of these problems.
Soooooo /SIGNED
Quoted For Truth.
I don't have the disconnect problems and havn't lost a single t2 drone ever (yet), but I do have massive problems with the drones attacking targets I havn't assigned them to. I have to do "engage target" 2-3 times and still 1 of them seems to go for another target, which is quite annoying.
But I wouldn't want to see them move as a group, there's (rare) occations where I'd prefer to split them up a bit. Just want this damn targetting issue solved, as I on almost every single target (while npc'ing) have to do 'engage target' 2-4 times to make sure they do as I want.
Apart from that, drones = love.
Don't mind their hp at all, they're already quite fast and do nice damage, would be silly if they'd get more hp as it would be damn evil in pvp.
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smallgreenblur
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2007.03.15 11:20:00 -
[102]
Bumpage for some ccp love. Again.
sgb
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smallgreenblur
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2007.03.15 11:20:00 -
[103]
Bumpage for some ccp love. Again.
sgb
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Sonya Rayner
Amarr Unicorn Enterprise
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Posted - 2007.03.15 11:32:00 -
[104]
/signed
pls ccp make logistics drones use MWD when ordered to "Return to Drone Bay" like normal combat drones. I hate the fact that my battleship (no, it isn't nanodomi or nanophoon, just an ordinary armageddon with no speed mods except the LiF afterburner) is FASTER that my drones... and, uh, using logistics on myself is kinda also appealing idea :)
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Sonya Rayner
Amarr Unicorn Enterprise
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Posted - 2007.03.15 11:32:00 -
[105]
/signed
pls ccp make logistics drones use MWD when ordered to "Return to Drone Bay" like normal combat drones. I hate the fact that my battleship (no, it isn't nanodomi or nanophoon, just an ordinary armageddon with no speed mods except the LiF afterburner) is FASTER that my drones... and, uh, using logistics on myself is kinda also appealing idea :)
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Vardemis
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.15 11:37:00 -
[106]
Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Tribunal 3) If a player CTDs or goes LD while fighting NPCs with drones then the drones are dead. Fix this! Make the drones stop attacking the NPCs if the player warps out (CTDs, LDs...etc) and make the NPCs stop attacking the drones.
Oh god that is annoying... BUT:
There once was a fix to this, let's put it back in again It's called warp-scrambling NPCs. Back in the good old days, practily every NPC-spawn had you scrambled. Result: If you CTD'ed, then your ship would still be sitting there, with the NPCs shooting at you and your drones still killing off the NPCs. And when you logged back in it was the same as if you'd just taken a short run to pick up a beer or something...
Not to mention how much better this also would be to stop this annoying log log log log log that's going on all around the place now.
Not to mention that it would NPC hunting a bit more interesting again, especially in territory with a decent ammount of hostiles around.
Only other thing drones could use is a bit better ai, they still kick ass though. :)
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Vardemis
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.15 11:37:00 -
[107]
Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Tribunal 3) If a player CTDs or goes LD while fighting NPCs with drones then the drones are dead. Fix this! Make the drones stop attacking the NPCs if the player warps out (CTDs, LDs...etc) and make the NPCs stop attacking the drones.
Oh god that is annoying... BUT:
There once was a fix to this, let's put it back in again It's called warp-scrambling NPCs. Back in the good old days, practily every NPC-spawn had you scrambled. Result: If you CTD'ed, then your ship would still be sitting there, with the NPCs shooting at you and your drones still killing off the NPCs. And when you logged back in it was the same as if you'd just taken a short run to pick up a beer or something...
Not to mention how much better this also would be to stop this annoying log log log log log that's going on all around the place now.
Not to mention that it would NPC hunting a bit more interesting again, especially in territory with a decent ammount of hostiles around.
Only other thing drones could use is a bit better ai, they still kick ass though. :)
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Great Artista
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.15 11:41:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Vardemis
Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Tribunal 3) If a player CTDs or goes LD while fighting NPCs with drones then the drones are dead. Fix this! Make the drones stop attacking the NPCs if the player warps out (CTDs, LDs...etc) and make the NPCs stop attacking the drones.
Oh god that is annoying... BUT:
There once was a fix to this, let's put it back in again It's called warp-scrambling NPCs. Back in the good old days, practily every NPC-spawn had you scrambled. Result: If you CTD'ed, then your ship would still be sitting there, with the NPCs shooting at you and your drones still killing off the NPCs. And when you logged back in it was the same as if you'd just taken a short run to pick up a beer or something...
Not to mention how much better this also would be to stop this annoying log log log log log that's going on all around the place now.
Not to mention that it would NPC hunting a bit more interesting again, especially in territory with a decent ammount of hostiles around.
Only other thing drones could use is a bit better ai, they still kick ass though. :)
The win. Supported. ___________________________________
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Great Artista
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.15 11:41:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Vardemis
Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Tribunal 3) If a player CTDs or goes LD while fighting NPCs with drones then the drones are dead. Fix this! Make the drones stop attacking the NPCs if the player warps out (CTDs, LDs...etc) and make the NPCs stop attacking the drones.
Oh god that is annoying... BUT:
There once was a fix to this, let's put it back in again It's called warp-scrambling NPCs. Back in the good old days, practily every NPC-spawn had you scrambled. Result: If you CTD'ed, then your ship would still be sitting there, with the NPCs shooting at you and your drones still killing off the NPCs. And when you logged back in it was the same as if you'd just taken a short run to pick up a beer or something...
Not to mention how much better this also would be to stop this annoying log log log log log that's going on all around the place now.
Not to mention that it would NPC hunting a bit more interesting again, especially in territory with a decent ammount of hostiles around.
Only other thing drones could use is a bit better ai, they still kick ass though. :)
The win. Supported. ___________________________________
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Kwint Sommer
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Posted - 2007.03.19 22:59:00 -
[110]
According to a dev: CCP Oveur:
Quote: Drones - We're currently hiring in new game designer, from there on a lucky guy will have this as his permanent responsibility.
That was posted in the comments about the latest blog
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sr blackout
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.03.19 23:27:00 -
[111]
a fix for CTD would be option to check on the ship to scoop drones into drone bay before emergency warp off... its a trade off between losing your ship or your drones lol, would be a nice feature
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Dethis
Caldari Obliteration Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.03.19 23:30:00 -
[112]
I agree totally Drone AI and usage in general is fubared.
1) you say engage target they make it half way then all split up and go their own way
2) Your T2 Heavy's finally get to the target and are all attacking then Bam the other group pops them and now your down a large amount of isk and time.
3) Doing certain missions with drones is like ****ing into the wind, they get popped they get bugged they take forever to get there then half way there they decide to turn around you get full stage aggro they cost you time and money and in caldari space they are hard to find.
4) They have crap for HP and When they get a command they stop moving for a second and BS's track them and pop them so even if the stage does aggro them your gennerally out a drone.
5) THERE IS NO WAY TO TELL IF THEY HAVE AGGRO SLDGJLK:SDGJLKSDJGL:GJ
(you can tell that is the most annoying part)
Please for the love of all that is holy fix drones FFS -------- Kill em all and let god sort em out
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Noxious89123
Gallente Sheik's Suicide Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.03.20 21:03:00 -
[113]
The rounds fired from turrets don't collide with structures, or ships in the line of fire. Neither do missles.
Why should drones?
Its a PITA when your fighting outside of a station, and you can't get a single hit on your opponent because your drones are stuck on:
You The Station Eachother Someone Else
And although its logical that drones can be shot down, how is it fair? Missles can be taken down with smartbombs and defenders, but neither of these mods are often used, least of all for that purpose. Rounds fired from turrets cannot be stopped.
Make drones untargetable, and able to fly through obstacles (Like missles!).
Another PITA: I fly Force recons. If someone attacks me with drones, and then i kill them, their drones stay in space, and keep a target lock on me, thus i cannot cloak. This is a PITA and needs to be fixed. OR Give us a way to break the target lock of drones. (ie. E War)
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Shinigami
Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.26 22:17:00 -
[114]
I agree with everything the Tribunal said. It's time for a change. I can't even remember the last time improvements were made to drones. It seems like these same problems have been around since 2003. --- Markly > why are taking me weldspai? Screenshots FPDoMS - Ore Relocation & Ship Removal Services
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n0thing
Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.
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Posted - 2007.03.26 22:31:00 -
[115]
Id certainly vote for hotkeys being added. Also, give us one sub-group ability. Like it would look like this on big drone ships:
Heavy Drones(group) -EW Drones(subgroup) -Damage drones(subgroup)
Medium Drones(group) -Vespa(subgroup) -Hammerhead(subgroup) ---
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Tynenor
Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.03.27 21:38:00 -
[116]
Four pages of topic on this subject and no dev response. I guess that the Eve bible, which is ever sooooooooooooooooo important to gameplay takes precedence.
Oh wait.
Fix the drones.
Oh, and not that it needs it (which ought to be an indicator), but
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.27 23:22:00 -
[117]
My Ogre 2s are ok most days. What bothers me is every now and then they just refuse to listen, then like today they refuse to fly at max speed.
Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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Phish1
Liberty Forces Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.27 23:26:00 -
[118]
signed on everything
also make us able to scoop sentry drones from slightly firther away, say 5000m or so, i find i drift in the ships u use sentrys on (dont ask)
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Azheri
Amarr The Unbeholden
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Posted - 2007.05.10 22:39:00 -
[119]
/signed
I just moved away from amarr ships to gallantean ships due to lasers being the way they are(both races has armor tank,yay), and now i find myself having bugs with my new main weapon(2mill in drones, 5 in lasers)..... i refuse to fly caldari tbh. Hurry up with vampire online so i can start playing that instead of caldari online
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