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LoKesh
Amarr SH Brotherhood R i s e
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Posted - 2007.01.15 17:17:00 -
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The developing situation in Outer Ring and Syndicate, combined with the coming BoB/D2 conflict has made it clear that Vertigo Coalition does not have a bright future. Although we could stand and continue to press on as we always have, our members have determined that such efforts would be futile and only lead to our eventual demise.
Throughout our history we have had many friends - all of whom we would like to thank for their support and their loyalty. However, in the last year our alliance suffered a string of unfortunate occurrences and was forced to rebuild from almost nothing. When I took over as alliance executor we had less than 100 active people and rebuilt to over 300, while making a move to Syndicate and testing our strength against the pilots of R0nin. I mark these accomplishments as a job well done, if not complete. During this rebuilding time we were supported and encouraged by one alliance only - RISE.
As such, the membership of VC felt the best option for us was to work in continued support of our friends, but as partners in their alliance. Therefore - VC is disbanding and all active pilots will be flying with RISE.
This message will be my last communication as a representative of VC and from this day on, VC is no more. It has been an honor to fly with VC and her many friends - I hope we made you proud, and it is not without some sorrow that I walk this new path.
Sincerely, Lokesh Former VC Executor Proud member of RISE
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Sextus Licinius
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.01.15 17:19:00 -
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huh? is this on?
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man" |
Rick Thwaites
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: Rick Thwaites on 15/01/2007 17:16:16 The loss of an alliance is always a sad thing to see, but good luck on all the future endeavours of the VC refugees!
= )!
EDIT: Snap, I wasn't first! My message still stands! -- Max sig dimensions are 400W x 120H - Cathath ([email protected])
Purple matches your eyes a little better, Cathath. = )!
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moroti
Yakuza Corp THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2007.01.15 17:39:00 -
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While technically dead, your alliance will live on forever as the inspiration of the RONIN "I setup my ship like VC" Cup, awarded to pilots who demonstrate a particular unique style on deathmails
Keep up the good work!
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Alha Qmar
Caldari Xenon Logistics
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Posted - 2007.01.15 17:43:00 -
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Good riddance
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Chewan Mesa
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.15 17:54:00 -
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I remember fighting you guys waaaaayy back when we were in Xelas, you were one of those "they'll be there forever" alliances :)
Good luck with RISE.
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Hudsonn
Minmatar FireTech
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Posted - 2007.01.15 18:16:00 -
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Oh dear guys.....oh dear....
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.15 18:17:00 -
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Who's doing BoB's seducing these days ? I'm impressed ;P
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Zubenelgenubi
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.15 18:17:00 -
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flew with VC while I was in SA.
Good guys. Good luck with the future. Sig removed. Please keep sigs to 400x120 pixels and 24000 bytes in size or less. -Kaemonn ([email protected]) |
Carin K
Minmatar Solar Dragon's Nest
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Posted - 2007.01.15 18:19:00 -
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BoB\D2 conflict? What?
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Broska
Shadow Blades
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Posted - 2007.01.15 18:23:00 -
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Good luck in the future guys. ------------------------------
Originally by: Tovarishch flying a Scorp into a fleet battle is like parking a pink moped in front of a biker bar - you will die... quickly.
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Dhan
Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.01.15 18:39:00 -
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Welcome friends!
Vertigo Coalition was left with a bunch of stubborn guys who just wouldn't give up. I look forward to flying with you guys even more often than before.
Dhan
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.15 18:44:00 -
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gl in ur future,
i think after a year or something enough time went by to let old grudges go and consider options that are the best for you and your members - so good move imo.
greetz rex
(look shere, i signed my post, too.) - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.15 18:48:00 -
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Good luck in ur future n sorry to see u disband ur alliance...
But are u willing to give anymore info on why you chose to join, of all people, RISE?
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Hans Steinberg
Vengeance of the Fallen
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Posted - 2007.01.15 19:03:00 -
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Good Luck with everything guys! I remember the days when we were in Aridia, you guys made it fun ---
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Buxaroo
Constructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.01.15 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: Buxaroo on 15/01/2007 19:16:40
Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche Good luck in ur future n sorry to see u disband ur alliance...
But are u willing to give anymore info on why you chose to join, of all people, RISE?
I don't think you know the history between the corps that make up RISE and VC very well. They have always helped each other out and did things together from as far as I remember. The only conflict that I remember (from what someone told me when I came back to EVE) is when Shiva with KOTHFluf turned tail and joined Morsus Mihi (can't ever get the spelling right on that one) and attempted to lock down YRNJ from all other corps except for Shiva. From what I heard it didn't turn out to be a complete lockdown and the rest of the corps/alliances pretty much said FU and did what they wanted to anyways. And whatya know Shiva left VC with their own devices they went north to join the nap monkeys
ps, I beleive (not 100% sure) Shiva left VC because KOTHFluf couldn't get the rest of VC to shoot Sturmgrenadier when they placed a tower in YRNJ to show they weren't taking any crap from the likes of Fluf. Atleast from talking with some guys thats what it sounded like to me.
Edit: GL to the VC guys. See ya down south
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.15 19:27:00 -
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well that answers that ty
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Bizarre
TAOSP
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Posted - 2007.01.15 19:49:00 -
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I thought VC died on its second day of existence? --------------------
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Cpt Pugwash
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Bizarre I thought VC died on its second day of existence?
Just goes to show how ignorant you are
Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
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Simon 955
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.15 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Who's doing BoB's seducing these days ? I'm impressed ;P
Its dian's cologne...irresistble
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KOTH Fluf
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.15 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Buxaroo Edited by: Buxaroo on 15/01/2007 19:16:40
Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche Good luck in ur future n sorry to see u disband ur alliance...
But are u willing to give anymore info on why you chose to join, of all people, RISE?
I don't think you know the history between the corps that make up RISE and VC very well. They have always helped each other out and did things together from as far as I remember. The only conflict that I remember (from what someone told me when I came back to EVE) is when Shiva with KOTHFluf turned tail and joined Morsus Mihi (can't ever get the spelling right on that one) and attempted to lock down YRNJ from all other corps except for Shiva. From what I heard it didn't turn out to be a complete lockdown and the rest of the corps/alliances pretty much said FU and did what they wanted to anyways. And whatya know Shiva left VC with their own devices they went north to join the nap monkeys
ps, I beleive (not 100% sure) Shiva left VC because KOTHFluf couldn't get the rest of VC to shoot Sturmgrenadier when they placed a tower in YRNJ to show they weren't taking any crap from the likes of Fluf. Atleast from talking with some guys thats what it sounded like to me.
Edit: GL to the VC guys. See ya down south
Get a clue. Shiva never left VC because of Sturmgrenadier. Shiva left VC to join longterm friends in the north that actually had common interest and fight as one and allow us to grow our industry and corp in and alliance that actually works. Free-Space-Rangers also joined this alliance. Strumgrenadier had been given 3 months to join one of the local alliances down there, as had all the other single corps leeaching off the area under the protection of Shiva. These alliances being FA, VC or Imperium. This was in an effort to get people to work together in a common cause. The incident over YRNJ was a typical example of Sturms greed, selfishness and arrogance. Once confronted by Shiva and VC, they joined FA within 24hrs to avoid a war dec.
Shiva had been in negotiations with Morsus Mihi for several months before anything happened with Sturmgrenadier. We simply got tired of being the police force and protecting all the carebears in the area who wanted nothing to do but rat and mine and not defend the area or fight vs BOB and Xelas. We knew the Norad/FA merger would result in failure, which has proved out true. Rise couldnt even hold Cloud Ring vs a smaller alliance and Outbreak. Its own inside greed and usual bueracracy failing caused the best corps from Norad to leave. This can be seen now as it was Sturmgrenadier who have lead the movement to become BOB pets within Rise. They are an out of game clan that is only concerned with there own corp and only does what is in the best interest for themselves. These are the guys that BOB got a spy into long ago, and shut down there POS in Y-2NAO and cost them billions in losses. And yet a year later they are napping them. Sad.
Once Shiva left the area and moved north, it took BOB and friends only 2 months to clear out the eastern half of Fountain and Aridia. Although I am sad to see Vertigo Coalition disband finally, it was inevitable once Shiva and FSR and Chicago Mobsters left. Just sorry to see them go the way of Rise and lose all honor and dignity and the reason they were formed in the first place.
Good luck guys, you will need it.
Fluf CEO Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Buxaroo
Constructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.01.15 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: KOTH Fluf
Originally by: Buxaroo Edited by: Buxaroo on 15/01/2007 19:16:40
Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche Good luck in ur future n sorry to see u disband ur alliance...
But are u willing to give anymore info on why you chose to join, of all people, RISE?
I don't think you know the history between the corps that make up RISE and VC very well. They have always helped each other out and did things together from as far as I remember. The only conflict that I remember (from what someone told me when I came back to EVE) is when Shiva with KOTHFluf turned tail and joined Morsus Mihi (can't ever get the spelling right on that one) and attempted to lock down YRNJ from all other corps except for Shiva. From what I heard it didn't turn out to be a complete lockdown and the rest of the corps/alliances pretty much said FU and did what they wanted to anyways. And whatya know Shiva left VC with their own devices they went north to join the nap monkeys
ps, I beleive (not 100% sure) Shiva left VC because KOTHFluf couldn't get the rest of VC to shoot Sturmgrenadier when they placed a tower in YRNJ to show they weren't taking any crap from the likes of Fluf. Atleast from talking with some guys thats what it sounded like to me.
Edit: GL to the VC guys. See ya down south
Get a clue. Shiva never left VC because of Sturmgrenadier. Shiva left VC to join longterm friends in the north that actually had common interest and fight as one and allow us to grow our industry and corp in and alliance that actually works. Free-Space-Rangers also joined this alliance. Strumgrenadier had been given 3 months to join one of the local alliances down there, as had all the other single corps leeaching off the area under the protection of Shiva. These alliances being FA, VC or Imperium. This was in an effort to get people to work together in a common cause. The incident over YRNJ was a typical example of Sturms greed, selfishness and arrogance. Once confronted by Shiva and VC, they joined FA within 24hrs to avoid a war dec.
Shiva had been in negotiations with Morsus Mihi for several months before anything happened with Sturmgrenadier. We simply got tired of being the police force and protecting all the carebears in the area who wanted nothing to do but rat and mine and not defend the area or fight vs BOB and Xelas. We knew the Norad/FA merger would result in failure, which has proved out true. Rise couldnt even hold Cloud Ring vs a smaller alliance and Outbreak. Its own inside greed and usual bueracracy failing caused the best corps from Norad to leave. This can be seen now as it was Sturmgrenadier who have lead the movement to become BOB pets within Rise. They are an out of game clan that is only concerned with there own corp and only does what is in the best interest for themselves. These are the guys that BOB got a spy into long ago, and shut down there POS in Y-2NAO and cost them billions in losses. And yet a year later they are napping them. Sad.
Once Shiva left the area and moved north, it took BOB and friends only 2 months to clear out the eastern half of Fountain and Aridia. Although I am sad to see Vertigo Coalition disband finally, it was inevitable once Shiva and FSR and Chicago Mobsters left. Just sorry to see them go the way of Rise and lose all honor and dignity and the reason they were formed in the first place.
Good luck guys, you will need it.
OMFG, protecting the carebears? Policing the area? You mean whenever a 10+ bob gang came into the aridia around Hophib and 90% of the time we saw in the intel chat "Everyone dock or get SS, don't give them easy kills!" coming from you your idea of policing the area? Good work there.
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Troubadour
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.01.15 21:01:00 -
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I thought VC died like months ago. Who cares.
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dokkillo
Amarr 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.15 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: dokkillo on 15/01/2007 21:02:07 Edited by: dokkillo on 15/01/2007 20:59:27 Edited by: dokkillo on 15/01/2007 20:58:12 Edited by: dokkillo on 15/01/2007 20:57:23
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Garrard
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.15 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Buxaroo Edited by: Buxaroo on 15/01/2007 19:16:40
Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche Good luck in ur future n sorry to see u disband ur alliance...
But are u willing to give anymore info on why you chose to join, of all people, RISE?
I don't think you know the history between the corps that make up RISE and VC very well. They have always helped each other out and did things together from as far as I remember. The only conflict that I remember (from what someone told me when I came back to EVE) is when Shiva with KOTHFluf turned tail and joined Morsus Mihi (can't ever get the spelling right on that one) and attempted to lock down YRNJ from all other corps except for Shiva. From what I heard it didn't turn out to be a complete lockdown and the rest of the corps/alliances pretty much said FU and did what they wanted to anyways. And whatya know Shiva left VC with their own devices they went north to join the nap monkeys
ps, I beleive (not 100% sure) Shiva left VC because KOTHFluf couldn't get the rest of VC to shoot Sturmgrenadier when they placed a tower in YRNJ to show they weren't taking any crap from the likes of Fluf. Atleast from talking with some guys thats what it sounded like to me.
Edit: GL to the VC guys. See ya down south
ROFLMAO
you just dont know do you. couple quick points, Shiva had no trouble getting the allied corps/alliances in the d4 area to shoot SGHQ people. We did have troubles with the amount of leeches and non-pvp types that inhabited the area of our operations, wich constantly whined, and cried when said BoB gank wing would comethru without any of our combat forces in the area. You fail as many from that time to realise that VC then was primarily a guerilla force. our pvpr's were generaly harrasing Xelas in A-1 and or in Delve harrasing BOB, or Stain Harrasing everyone. Many if not most people in the D4KU-Hophib area were content to rat in the realitiven safety and peace that came with the majority of the Shiva VC PvPr's keeping most of the hostiles away. as for SGHQ, they put a POS up, then took it down. they brought a few BS's to show some people who was the boss, and then left quickly, they got wind of an upcoming war dec, and joied FA. they should really thank thier friends in REZ and BIG that called in some big ticket favors to stop us from going thru with it. try again Buxy I'm sure you can come up with something better if you try.
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Rieger VaunBraun
Amarr Crazy Canucks
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Posted - 2007.01.15 21:57:00 -
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Now guys, don't turn this into a VC/Shiva thing.
I am sorry to see that VC had to die, but I am sure this will give you and your pilots renewed life and a new direction. LoKesh I wish you nothing but the best and certainly hope your new region and alliance treats you well. Don't forget to keep in touch.
Fly safe brother.
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Solwolf
Gallente BIG Advanced Assault
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Posted - 2007.01.15 22:34:00 -
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I'm sad to see VC go. Good luck to you, whatever you do. Recruitment
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.16 03:58:00 -
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Originally by: Buxaroo Edited by: Buxaroo on 15/01/2007 19:16:40
Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche Good luck in ur future n sorry to see u disband ur alliance...
But are u willing to give anymore info on why you chose to join, of all people, RISE?
I don't think you know the history between the corps that make up RISE and VC very well. They have always helped each other out and did things together from as far as I remember. The only conflict that I remember (from what someone told me when I came back to EVE) is when Shiva with KOTHFluf turned tail and joined Morsus Mihi (can't ever get the spelling right on that one) and attempted to lock down YRNJ from all other corps except for Shiva. From what I heard it didn't turn out to be a complete lockdown and the rest of the corps/alliances pretty much said FU and did what they wanted to anyways. And whatya know Shiva left VC with their own devices they went north to join the nap monkeys
ps, I beleive (not 100% sure) Shiva left VC because KOTHFluf couldn't get the rest of VC to shoot Sturmgrenadier when they placed a tower in YRNJ to show they weren't taking any crap from the likes of Fluf. Atleast from talking with some guys thats what it sounded like to me.
Edit: GL to the VC guys. See ya down south
Wow! It's is rare to see so many completely wrong statements in a single message! The "guys" you talked to were, quite simply, "full of it."
That said, Shiva does wish all of our former VC and FA compatriots the best in their latest endeavours.
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Daelmon
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.01.16 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Solwolf I'm sad to see VC go. Good luck to you, whatever you do.
Glad to see VC joining RISE.
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fugazii
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.16 04:15:00 -
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lol thats got to be funniest reason for disbanding alliance. "were probably gonna die in a war that hasnt started yet, so **** it lets jst call it quits now"
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